Why would she even look into Streusen's mind in the first place.
That's what I keep saying. Oda even had a perfect opportunity to let Pudding peek into Streusen's memories, but nope, decided that Sanji was just that good of a chef that he didn't need him at all, so now they just left him there, unconscious.
Very interested in seeing how it plays out.
Obviously Streusen will have to be the one to mention it so that Pudding becomes aware of it. Don't know exactly how or why that'll be, but Oda put him there and had him be a witness for a reason.
There also CP0 chcik who may know what happened on the Island considering Mother Caramel dealings with CP0.
Obviously Streusen will have to be the one to mention it so that Pudding becomes aware of it. Don't know exactly how or why that'll be, but Oda put him there and had him be a witness for a reason.
I just feel like it's enough for him to simply be the guy who corrupted her into becoming Big Mom because he saw the potential in a cannibalistic 6 year old behemoth, cause I really just don't see him bringing up that ordeal out of the blue. "Hey Pudding wanna know what happened to Mother Carmel lol you're gonna love this". She could try to give Big Mom a better memory giving her closure to Mother Carmel's disappearance so she doesn't freak so badly when a picture is damaged, but that doesn't really address the hunger problem which existed before she even went to Elbaf. So what's really solved. I think it's a red herring and she'll use her ability in some different way, like to make Sanji forget about her or something so she can go off to find love on her own like Lola (Pudding fanboy twist: I'd rather her join, so maybe make her family forget her instead).
Or Pudding might know BM ate the kids?
I think it's a red herring and she'll use her ability in some different way, like to make Sanji forget about her or something so she can go off to find love on her own like Lola
….have you seen how she's been reacting to Sanji since the wedding? SHe's head over heels for him now, why would she want to find someone else?
That love is Sanji, its not gonna be anyone else.
….have you seen how she's been reacting to Sanji since the wedding? SHe's head over heels for him now, why would she want to find someone else?
Iunno some weird maturation thing stemming from her realizing her love has his own journey going on while she should go on her own journey to find self-peace. Doesn't even have to include the find-someone-else part, that's just extra motive for her to exit the stage.
Nah where ever happens to Pudding (joins the crew, travels the crew for a bit ala Law and momo, her own journey, travel with Bege, goes to cook and run the Bariete , whatever, umm becomes an Okama), I can't see her abandoning her love for Sanji or even Sanji not making some form of commitment to her.
That and considering how inter connected OP is specially in the Timeskip we will see her again.
That is so boring.
It's more likely that Blackbeard swoops in and kills a weakened Big Mom than there is of her becoming an ally. Her becoming an ally would be terrible writing.
That said, I don't know what the conclusion will be but considering it will include this Sanji made cake, I'm going to go ahead and assume it's going to be bullshit.
Gimme strong independent Pudding who don't need no manSanji.
@Jazzy:
It's more likely that Blackbeard swoops in and kills a weakened Big Mom than there is of her becoming an ally.
God no
I don't like the idea of her being an ally, but that's certainly more likely than Blackbeard showing up.
Oh well, whatever, screw the NN purpose of the thread…
... I am still betting on Teach going there. Mostly because Pudding latent ability to read poneglyphs didn't lead to anything and Teach will need someone with this ability to remain a rival to Luffy once he starts following the Road Poneglyphs. The Yonkou reached a wall because they don't have anyone who can read the poneglyphs and Luffy will be able to move past that point thanks to Robin, for Teach to measure up to him by the end of the manga he will need someone who can do it as well.
Oh god no! Please no PuddingxSanji in this arc. If that happens I will actually have to start agreeing with people that Sanji is a bit of a wimp with questionable loyalties for his crew (and I don't want to do that because I very much like Sanji's character). If Sanji legitimately falls in love with the girl who actually nearly killed his crew….I'm going to lose serious respect for the man no matter how kind he's supposed to be. Just please no. (but seeing how Oda is hell-bent on redeeming her through questionable family issues I wouldn't be surprised…..sigh)
As for WCI finale: I'm betting on neutral relations or even the Big Mom crew being indebted to the strawhats once the cake stuff happen. I could see a pincer attack from BB happening (because he's an opportunistic bastard) but that's just too cheap imo (to off-panel the demise of a yonko?…can't say that I'd be thrilled)
A weakened Big Mom? After she eats the cake she will be rejuvenated (especially after her nap). Are people seriously suggesting that Blackbeard can defeat Big Mom? Even if he appears at the end of the arc, which I highly doubt because this is some random detour arc before the main show in Wano, Big Mom would wipe the floor with him and his entire fleet. Big Mom, like Whitebeard, doesn't solely rely on her ability and is a powerhouse just on her own. Given Blackbeard's relatively diminutive stature and the fact that he takes double the physical damage because of the darkness fruit he possesses he would be ill advised to go anywhere near her (If he does the discussion will be about whether Teach is alive or not, instead of Pedro).
I want Pudding for nakama, Luffy saying Sanji's wife will have to become part of the crew back in Zou couldn't have been for nothing… (wishful thinking)
Year of Sanji, let's go!
Are people seriously suggesting that Blackbeard can defeat Big Mom?
Yes.
And why not? We are all expecting him to be the final boss, so at some point he will have to raise his threat level. Unless people expect the final boss to be weaker than the bosses Luffy defeated in previous arcs, Teach will need to collect some achievements under his name to make him genuinely more dangerous than, say, Kaido (if Luffy is going to defeat Kaido by himself is debatable, but he is going to defeat him one way or another).
@.access:
Yes.
And why not? We are all expecting him to be the final boss, so at some point he will have to raise his threat level. Unless people expect the final boss to be weaker than the bosses Luffy defeated in previous arcs, Teach will need to collect some achievements under his name to make him genuinely more dangerous than, say, Kaido (if Luffy is going to defeat Kaido by himself is debatable, but he is going to defeat him one way or another).
His threat level is fine as it is, he has killed WB, ravaged Marineford, defeated Marco, destroyed the revolutionary base that WG couldn't find and possesses two of the most powerful devil fruits, even the fact he can have two powers speaks volumes about him. He will probably defeat Shanks, he doesn't need to defeat Whitebeard, Shanks AND Big Mom to raise his standards as the final boss (him as final boss is debatable because five elders). For a guy that has given a shit ton of "I'm shitting myself faces" showing that he is genuinely scared (as seen against WB and Sengoku) he will play into Big Mom's abilities very easily and have his soul sucked out of him. He's a coward. He isn't going to face Big Mom in this arc, I can guarantee it. Why would Big Mom be in a weakened state anyway, Strawhats aren't going to do anything to her this arc, that's a given. There's no one in BB's crew of Katakuri's calibre. (Aokiji doesn't count)
Year of Sanji, let's go!
Suggesting Teach can take Linlin down is absurd, but suggesting he can take Shanks down is fine?
Didn't one of his Titan Captains just got his ass handed to a measly 600 million bounty?
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Oh well, whatever, screw the NN purpose of the thread…
... I am still betting on Teach going there. Mostly because Pudding latent ability to read poneglyphs didn't lead to anything and Teach will need someone with this ability to remain a rival to Luffy once he starts following the Road Poneglyphs. The Yonkou reached a wall because they don't have anyone who can read the poneglyphs and Luffy will be able to move past that point thanks to Robin, for Teach to measure up to him by the end of the manga he will need someone who can do it as well.
Was it supposed to lead anywhere? To me it seemed more like Oda introduced the race and their supposed abilities as a foreshadowing of a future encounter with the race somewhere, maybe even connected to Raftel. I don´t think it´s significant for this arc.
Anyway, i do not think BM will become an ally. Like Robby suggested, i think the crew will somewhat feel indebted to the Strawhats while Pudding will alter BM´s memories after she passes out due to the cake, so that she will have no recollection of what transpired in this arc.
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A weakened Big Mom? After she eats the cake she will be rejuvenated (especially after her nap). Are people seriously suggesting that Blackbeard can defeat Big Mom? Even if he appears at the end of the arc, which I highly doubt because this is some random detour arc before the main show in Wano, Big Mom would wipe the floor with him and his entire fleet. Big Mom, like Whitebeard, doesn't solely rely on her ability and is a powerhouse just on her own. Given Blackbeard's relatively diminutive stature and the fact that he takes double the physical damage because of the darkness fruit he possesses he would be ill advised to go anywhere near her (If he does the discussion will be about whether Teach is alive or not, instead of Pedro).
I want Pudding for nakama, Luffy saying Sanji's wife will have to become part of the crew back in Zou couldn't have been for nothing… (wishful thinking)
Ehm, yes he can, no idea where the downplaying of Blackbeard comes from but there is a reason why Blackbeard will be dealt with relatively close to the ending of the manga.
The BB crew are a complete enigma in terms of power right now.
Burges got his ass handed to him by Sabo
BB resorted to his entire crew to shoot down a sick heavily injured WB dead (WB already had one foot in the grave and it still took all of BB's crew to subdue him)
BB is a weird D because he has an extreme fear of death. He is also very easily injured and is very quick to runaway in pain and resorts to underhanded taunting (taunting Ace with Luffy and Thatch's life, taunting WB with Ace's death, taunting Luffy with Ace's capture…)
Individually BB is portrayed as very weak and cowardly and yet he somehow injured Shanks when he was a nobody (enough that even Shanks was wary of him to the extent that he had to go warn WB who was his rival). BB is weak but he still took down Ace (not to forget that BB and his crew obliterated the remaining WB crew). BB is cowardly but even Shanks didn't think that Ace was capable of winning. It's all just not adding up.
We can only assume that Berges was one of his weakest fighters and that during the 2 years BB became much much stronger than before.
End of story BB should be stronger than all other Yonkos if Luffy will 1 v 1 all of them and it isn't out of the realm of possibility that BB is able to take down BM with a weakened army (that's basically BB's forte). I'm just not a fan of BB taking down BM because that's an off-panel fight guaranteed and it'd be bad pay-off for a yonko to end off-panel.
Didn't one of his Titan Captains just got his ass handed to a measly 600 million bounty?
Didn't one of BM Sweet Commanders just got his ass handed to a measly 500 million bounty? And another is about to follow? Just a few days after another of them was defeated by a (supposedly) even lower bounty?
Was it supposed to lead anywhere?
Obviously, even it is to them meeting the race later as you suggested. It doesn't have to be in this arc, as you said, but something is coming out of that.
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Didn't one of BM Sweet Commanders just got his ass handed to a measly 500 million bounty? And another is about to follow? Just a few days after another of them was defeated by a (supposedly) even lower bounty?
Obviously, even it is to them meeting the race later as you suggested. It doesn't have to be in this arc, as you said, but something is coming out of that.
I think Kage is referring to the "how" Burgess got defeated. Nevertheless, we have no idea where Burgess stands in the BB crew in terms of power (certainly under Shiliew, possibly under all of the level 6 guys), so it´s a irrelevant remark either way.
Yep that´s what i meant. I doubt it will be crucial in this arc but it will be significant in the future no doubt.
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The BB crew are a complete enigma in terms of power right now.
Burges got his ass handed to him by Sabo
BB resorted to his entire crew to shoot down a sick heavily injured WB dead (WB already had one foot in the grave and it still took all of BB's crew to subdue him)
BB is a weird D because he has an extreme fear of death. He is also very easily injured and is very quick to runaway in pain and resorts to underhanded taunting (taunting Ace with Luffy and Thatch's life, taunting WB with Ace's death, taunting Luffy with Ace's capture…)
Individually BB is portrayed as very weak and cowardly and yet he somehow injured Shanks when he was a nobody (enough that even Shanks was wary of him to the extent that he had to go warn WB who was his rival). BB is weak but he still took down Ace (not to forget that BB and his crew obliterated the remaining WB crew). BB is cowardly but even Shanks didn't think that Ace was capable of winning. It's all just not adding up.
We can only assume that Berges was one of his weakest fighters and that during the 2 years BB became much much stronger than before.
End of story BB should be stronger than all other Yonkos if Luffy will 1 v 1 all of them and it isn't out of the realm of possibility that BB is able to take down BM with a weakened army (that's basically BB's forte). I'm just not a fan of BB taking down BM because that's an off-panel fight guaranteed and it'd be bad pay-off for a yonko to end off-panel.
"Resorted" misconstrues things since the only reason why Oda decided to let the crew shoot WB down was to keep the powers of the BB crew hidden considering Oda loves to introduce new stuff when they become relevant.
BB´s fear is connected to Oda drawing up BB as an antithesis to Luffy while still sharing other characteristics. Pretty sure that will become relevant when the flashback of the Ancient Kingdom is revealed.
BB was never portrayed as weak though, i still do not get why people claim that as a fact. Of course there are exceptions, like Luffy punching BB aroudn pre-TS, but that´s more due to Oda´s inconsistency regarding character strengths or rather his indifference regarding a consistent power depiction that is sacrificed for dramatic purposes. Luffy´s frustration and anger exploded in that moment.
The same BB took a huge quake to the head without any problems though, an attack that even seriously injured Akainu.
Why would Big Mom be in a weakened state anyway, Strawhats aren't going to do anything to her this arc, that's a given. There's no one in BB's crew of Katakuri's calibre. (Aokiji doesn't count)
Nevertheless :
Big Mom probably won't be literally defeated, this much I agree on and it would indeed be underwhelming to off-panel her. But I can completely imagine a situation where in the following days a hostile force (Marines or BB, or even Shanks - he is a pirate, too) invades Tottland and the remnants of the Big Mom Pirates (Mama included) are forced to abandon their homeland. Consider the possibility that, while rejuvenated by the cake, Big Mom may still be incapacitated for a while leaving her children with no option but to turn tail if the likes of Fujitora and Akainu show up with a large enough fleet.
Looking at the big picture, in recent arcs the Straw Hats have upset the status quo wherever they go. Fishmen are eager to come in the open and on route to the Reverie; the end of Smiles and weapons traffic resolved ingoing conflicts and sparked new ones; the Minks are preparing to invade Wano after centuries of living in secrecy on their illusive island, … I can't imagine the events in Tottland not having severe repercussions, especially after the blow to both Big Mom's military power and her credit as a Yonkou.
Pudding's power could be used for smaller or bigger things like make bm pirates forget about capone and cliffon, or forget about what SH did in the last 2 days, or just forget about sanji, or even finding out about bm's flashback by chance when pudding tried to work on her last 2 days memory.
Imagine if pudding would make her crew forget about what SHs did yet later big news morgan axe hand reveales it all in newspaper and it still gets out.
There is the fact that all giants know about bms flashback because of that giant, so it is not sure bm will find out now, it could be saved for elbaf.
There seems to be a pattern with the bb pirates, so they will meet luffy next, be it wano or smaller arc pre wano.
Nevertheless :
- Tottland's surveillance network is down (no more sea slugs)
- tart fleets are either sunken, disabled, or at best dropped their guard duty to track down of Straw Hats / Firetanks / Germa
- Whole Cake Castle's in ruins > central HQ disorganized, treasure vault ripe for pillaging
- 2 of the 3 sweet commanders will have taken severe damage by the end of the arc
- incoming further losses in the grand finale, everyone's converging towards Cocoa Island and the Germa 66 are still at full might
- to top it off every major crook from the Underground is present to spread the news and/or exploit the situation themselves
Big Mom probably won't be literally defeated, this much I agree on and it would indeed be underwhelming to off-panel her. But I can completely imagine a situation where in the following days a hostile force (Marines or BB, or even Shanks - he is a pirate, too) invades Tottland and the remnants of the Big Mom Pirates (Mama included) are forced to abandon their homeland. Consider the possibility that, while rejuvenated by the cake, Big Mom may still be incapacitated for a while leaving her children with no option but to turn tail if the likes of Fujitora and Akainu show up with a large enough fleet.
Looking at the big picture, in recent arcs the Straw Hats have upset the status quo wherever they go. Fishmen are eager to come in the open and on route to the Reverie; the end of Smiles and weapons traffic resolved ingoing conflicts and sparked new ones; the Minks are preparing to invade Wano after centuries of living in secrecy on their illusive island, … I can't imagine the events in Tottland not having severe repercussions, especially after the blow to both Big Mom's military power and her credit as a Yonkou.
The repercussions will be the tarnishing of her image and then yes people will start to question her strength but Blackbeard isn't going to waltz in and simply pick her off, that's borderline fanfic territory right there. Shanks won't be defeated so easily I'm not suggesting that it will be easy but the match up seems likelier because of all the foreshadowing. If Blackbeard who has never interacted with BM (to our knowledge) just appears out of nowhere that would be ridiculous. So, no, it's not happening (not until we get some clear motives and interactions put into motion).
Whereas if the Marines came and did that that would make sense, if Akainu did it that would be even better, that I can get behind.
Year of Sanji, let's go!
If Blackbeard who has never interacted with BM (to our knowledge) just appears out of nowhere that would be ridiculous. So, no, it's not happening (not until we get some clear motives and interactions put into motion).
I can agree to this. Unlike the Marines/WG and contrary to the Revo Headquarters situation (with which he's supposedly had his hands full recently), Blackbeard doesn't have any known agents in Tottland and no clear motives indeed except maybe hunting for Road Poneglyphs - but that's if he even knows about them, and if he did I would expect him to pull it off in a under-handed manner.
Marines on the other hand badly need some street credit ever since the timeskip and they still have a brand new admiral to introduce, so truth be told if anyone's going to waltz in after the arc's over my money is on them. Although they're supposedly mobilized by the Reverie, so maybe such a move is not in their capacity at the moment.
What? The marines swooping up and taking down the Big Mom pirates? That would be way too risky, they are gearing up for the Reverie, if they managed to get enough military strength to push into Big Mom's territory in the time that they would have their pants down, then they would also be vulnerable to an attack by Blackbeard, the revolutionaries or Kaidoh.
Moving in against an emperor, when they are 2 warlords down, and the revolutionaries are on the move and desperate, while Blackbeard is emboldened would require some new weapon or alliance from the World Goverment side. They would need divine help. They would need God Enel.
Kaidou was introduced as a guy with a deathwish, Blackbeard taking him down after Luffy weakens him makes perfect sense.
And BB beating Shanks eventually is all but set in stone.
And he already killed Whitebeard.
BM doesn't have to be beaten by the end if she's turned sort of ally, but she does obviously have to be taken off the table. We'll see what happens to her after she's been fed the amazing cake and had her memories restored and gets to see that she personally destroyed her entire base, something her family has always hidden from her up until now.
I reeeeeally dont see BB showing up and killing her, that would just be one too many emperors for him. And playing the "BB shows up and finishes an already weakened Yonkou" card will get repetitive very fast.
Kaidou was introduced as a guy with a deathwish, Blackbeard taking him down after Luffy weakens him makes perfect sense.
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I reeeeeally dont see BB showing up and killing her, that would just be one too many emperors for him. And playing the "BB shows up and finishes an already weakened Yonkou" card will get repetitive very fast.
huh… I got it.
But to be honest, it's just a possibility. The Marines doing it would be just as interesting and, as Seafarer said, they desperately need to do something successfully.
Yeah don't see BB making an appearance anytime soon, specially when his eyes at least for taking down a Yonko will be focused on Shanks.
That and I imagine he already has his own way to Raftel.
No they literally just sink the ships. Except when they just wanted to punch actual humans I guess (or steal the stuff in the ships). Why do you think they were such a threat in sea ?
That's like, not the point
The cake is originally dumb
"oh no, I ate and spoiled the cake. Sorry for the readers, but we're gonna spend 30more chapters just to make another cake!!"
Also, the point is not that he is making a cake. But ANOTHER cake (also, eventually fucking up the pace). No one's bitching about Sanji doing what he's good at. I'm actually whining because it's redundantMaybe he will do that at the Reverie. But I didn't say there should be a fleet waiting just outside her territory. I said Fujitora is suppose to hunt down Luffy, that's all.
If they could do more they would have.
And what makes Fishman so dangerous is not only are the just as strong as humans on land, they can use the majority of the planet to there advantage cause:
1). Can easily escape to the sea with no real way to efficiently track and capture them
2). Grow three times as strong in water that covers the majority of the planet
3). Can breathe underwater giving them another distinct advantage
Then I really don't get you bringing up Luffy at all, I don't see the point?
I don't think there gonna be a second cake anymore the time for that has moved past and their will be new challenges with the cake moving forward now that the BMP will question the cake but also Pudding, I'm sure we shall see some push back from Germa once they see Pudding. I think even Greg thinks there won't be a second one anymore and that really doesn't change how he imagine WCI will end.
Fujitora doesn't make much sense either since last we saw him he was escorting Dolfa to Impel Down which would take a decent amount of time even to get to Marinjou because from Dressrosa its a week away. Even if he got back to the New World there:
A). He would be no where near Luffy once he reached the NW so the trail would be cold.
B). He would want to present his case for the Shikibukai destruction in some way so I imagine he focused on that.
C). Has no way to track Luffy since he could have gone to number of Islands after Dressrosa so the trail is cold.
D). Even if CP0 told him where Luffy was it still take time to get there
E). Fujitora wouldn't be dumb enough to walk in blindly into a Yonko territory.
Oh god no! Please no PuddingxSanji in this arc. If that happens I will actually have to start agreeing with people that Sanji is a bit of a wimp with questionable loyalties for his crew (and I don't want to do that because I very much like Sanji's character). If Sanji legitimately falls in love with the girl who actually nearly killed his crew….I'm going to lose serious respect for the man no matter how kind he's supposed to be. Just please no. (but seeing how Oda is hell-bent on redeeming her through questionable family issues I wouldn't be surprised…..sigh)
As for WCI finale: I'm betting on neutral relations or even the Big Mom crew being indebted to the strawhats once the cake stuff happen. I could see a pincer attack from BB happening (because he's an opportunistic bastard) but that's just too cheap imo (to off-panel the demise of a yonko?…can't say that I'd be thrilled)
I really don't see how you can start to complain about it now when its been pretty clear this arc its heading in that direction, that or how Sanji falling in love with her/making the promise of marriage is really detrimental to his character especially now with Pudding character.
Hell Robby, RomanceDawn, Count Mario (I think?), and others see them getting together, hell Greg himself sees it in one of his columns or at least sees Oda heading that way.
And if they do get married/promise his gag could just change a bit to include him fighting of temptation remembering he got someone waiting for him.
I'll have another post in the WCI thread around the whole two soon, the families again and how i see the arc ending.
I would also like to say these guys arn't shippers in any way like the trash shippers you see on Oro like in the SaNa thread.
These guys are rational thoughtful players.
Kaidou was introduced as a guy with a deathwish, Blackbeard taking him down after Luffy weakens him makes perfect sense.
And BB beating Shanks eventually is all but set in stone.
And he already killed Whitebeard.
BM doesn't have to be beaten by the end if she's turned sort of ally, but she does obviously have to be taken off the table. We'll see what happens to her after she's been fed the amazing cake and had her memories restored and gets to see that she personally destroyed her entire base, something her family has always hidden from her up until now.
I reeeeeally dont see BB showing up and killing her, that would just be one too many emperors for him. And playing the "BB shows up and finishes an already weakened Yonkou" card will get repetitive very fast.
Why BB, the guy has no story with kaidou. The one that has a story with kaidou is moria himself. And it was made clear kaidou can't be kld, at least with normal ways. But someone that can steal his shadow is something else, after what kaidou did to moria's crew it is clear moria has to do something to help.
And "BB shows up and finishes an already weakened Yonkou" card will get repetitive very fast too if he gets Wb, shanks AND kaidou.
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Why BB, the guy has no story with kaidou.
Because status. Kaidou is currently "the strongest creature in the world." He was introduced with a death wish, so that makes him killable by Oda.
But Oda wouldn't kill anyone without a specific story reason. What would the marines killing him do? Nothing that beating down Whitebeard didn't. What would BB killing him do? Provide another devil fruit powerup. Hype the final villain. Change the balance of the world power. And maybe give him the confidence to go after Shanks?
As noted, BB needs a steady string of hype. He's got lots of offscreen things going, By the time we get through Wano in 2 or 3 years, we'll be entering the end game for the series. At that point we'll have Elbaf and maybe one or two other islands we haven't heard about yet and then its onto Raftel. He'll need some on-camera events.
Once Luffy beats a Yonkou, he'll have beaten the strongest creature in the world. No matter how much help he had doing it, he'll be officially top tier… so we need to raise the stakes and have the final villain show that same level of power. In 2-3 years when Wano ends, Whitebeard's death will have been 9 or 10 years and 40 volumes prior. And for all that him killing Shanks will have the emotional pull, Shanks hasn't been established as un unstoppable world shaking monster (he even lost an arm to a sea king). it won't have the dramatic powerhouse effect of "Oh he's so powerful and scary now!" It'll have the dramatic effect of "he's a bastard!" which are two different goals..
At that point in the story, beating down the strongest thing we've ever seen will be an event and we need to get hyped for the next thing to be even bigger. Right now, Big Mom is already overshadowed by Kaidou. Beating her wouldn't hype or power up anything, and its just a little too early still to completely shake up the world balance. After Kaidou will be the time for everything to go to hell.
(Similarly, that'll be when the crew gets their next bounties, even though it would make sense for them to get them updated again after BM, narratively after Kaidou and for their final bounties is what makes sense.)
Now, let me be clear. I'm not saying Blackbeard 100% will kill Kaidou. I'm not drawing a line in the sand on that like BB killing Shanks or BB getting an ancient weapon, and I'm not convinced that's where the story HAS to go like I am on some other things. But for organic progression of the story, clearing out the board and threat escalation it makes a lot of sense.
The one that has a story with kaidou is moria himself. And it was made clear kaidou can't be kld, at least with normal ways. But someone that can steal his shadow is something else, after what kaidou did to moria's crew it is clear moria has to do something to help.
Yeah, it seems obvious Moria will show up next arc but he can't just cut shadows whenever he wants. It'd be awesome if Moria shows up and finishes Kaidou off and gets revenge. But then what? What's Moria add to the story from there? What does him finishing Kaidou build up to? Personal satisfaction for him, sure, but for the narrative as a whole?
Because status. Kaidou is currently "the strongest creature in the world." He was introduced with a death wish, so that makes him killable by Oda.
But Oda wouldn't kill anyone without a specific story reason. What would the marines killing him do? Nothing that beating down Whitebeard didn't. What would BB killing him do? Provide another devil fruit powerup. Hype the final villain. And maybe give him the confidence to go after Shanks?
As noted, BB needs a steady string of hype. He's got lots of offscreen things going, By the time we get through Wano in 2 or 3 years, we'll be entering the end game for the series. At that point we'll have Elbaf and maybe one or two other islands we haven't heard about yet and then its onto Raftel. He'll need some on-camera events.
Once Luffy beats a Yonkou, he'll have beaten the strongest creature in the world. No matter how much help he had doing it, he'll be officially top tier… so we need to raise the stakes and have the final villain show that same level of power. In 2-3 years when Wano ends, Whitebeard's death will have been 9 or 10 years and 40 volumes prior. And for all that him killing Shanks will have the emotional pull, Shanks hasn't been established as un unstoppable world shaking monster (he even lost an arm to a sea king). it won't have the dramatic powerhouse effect of "Oh he's so powerful and scary now!" It'll have the dramatic effect of "he's a bastard!" which are two different goals..
At that point in the story, beating down the strongest thing we've ever seen will be an event and we need to get hyped for the next thing to be even bigger. Right now, Big Mom is already overshadowed by Kaidou. Beating her wouldn't hype or power up anything, and its just a little too early still to completely shake up the world balance. After Kaidou will be the time for everything to go to hell.
(Similarly, that'll be when the crew gets their next bounties, even though it would make sense for them to get them updated again after BM, narratively after Kaidou and for their final bounties is what makes sense.)
Now, let me be clear. I'm not saying Blackbeard 100% will kill Kaidou. I'm not drawing a line in the sand on that like BB killing Shanks. But for organic progression of the story, clearing out the board and threat building it makes sense.
Yeah, it seems obvious Moria will show up next arc but he can't just cut shadows whenever he wants. It'd be awesome if Moria shows up and finishes Kaidou off and gets revenge. But then what? What's Moria add to the story from there? What does him finishing Kaidou build up to? Personal satisfaction for him, sure, but for the narrative as a whole?
As with other former enemies that turn into allies, I imagine moria will show up at the end to help luffy's side in the final, with his kaidou zombie, and there is also the thing that what moria will do after wano will become more clear in wano. BB eating the dragon fruit doesn't really make sense. He is more likely to get something like Dragon's fruit that would give him control over weather, earthquakes, darkness.
Dragon BB would just look like kaidou 2.0, rather then unique villain. While with fruits like quake no mi it doesn't change how you look, and wb wasn't used as luffy's villian to fully explore his fruit and have luffy beat that power, kaidou will get to fully fledge out his fruit and make luffy beat dragon zoan. And BB transforming into dragon would not only recycle former villain power, but would litteraly make him look like kaidou. sure he would have some darkness dragon claw and earthquake claws in there, but still dragon. Would also make 1 too many dragon villains for luffy. At least with the quake fruit if it's recycled luffy didn't face that power.
It's like someone will eat now the fruit of Lucci and be the villain next arc for luffy.
While doing it with WB and shanks on panel is more then enough to keep the hype, kaidou thing would just be overkill, might as well make him show up with BM too since what is 3 or 4, almost the same. Shanks is the important one here, no kaidou or bm, he doesn't need them to get the hype. He already went after dragon off panel and could maybe do it again on panel, since dragon doesn't look like he would stay around until the end in the story. He has sabo and luffy that can do what he can't.
Luffy would beat the dragon zoan twice in the story as top villains. What for? If he beat the dragon zoan once, why again?
And luffy won't beat the first yonkou in a legit way or else he would surpass all yonkous from the start with 7-8 years of the manga left. It is clear luffy gets lots of help, and nightmare luffy is what could beat kaidou and still make luffy after that be under yonkous. The very fact that SH alone don't face kaidou pirates but all the other supernovas crews and minks and wb pirates help too shows it's team win not SH win.
He needed law for doflamingo to turn his organs into lasagna and other people to protect him for 10 minutes from dofla. He needed nami to make cracker's armor useless with her rain, he needed brulee to save his as every 10 minutes from katakuri, yet he will solo the first yonkou? No.
If they could do more they would have.
The fishman pirates aren't actually people with brains, they're characters and Oda is the writer.
What is happening right now is simply that they're being nerfed
And what makes Fishman so dangerous is not only are the just as strong as humans on land, they can use the majority of the planet to there advantage cause:
1). Can easily escape to the sea with no real way to efficiently track and capture them
2). Grow three times as strong in water that covers the majority of the planet
3). Can breathe underwater giving them another distinct advantage
Then I really don't get you bringing up Luffy at all, I don't see the point?
Because I'm talking about how could this arc end, and Luffy is the main protagonist.
The point is that the Zeff situation has been completely ignored and every characters are acting like Bigmom wasn't threatening his life and Iva's.
And Zeff, or Iva are also his friends, this is why I brought up the "muh I can't protect my friends" thing.
Dealing with Katakuri doesn't prevent Bigmom from killing someone at Foosha or else
Fujitora doesn't make much sense either since last we saw him he was escorting Dolfa to Impel Down which would take a decent amount of time even to get to Marinjou because from Dressrosa its a week away.
A lot of time passed since he was escorting Doflamingo. And once the ships reach calm belt, they don't need Tsuru+Sengoku+Fujitora anymore
Even if he got back to the New World there:
B). He would want to present his case for the Shikibukai destruction in some way so I imagine he focused on that.
maybe. But it's not like he was the only one who didn't like the shichibukai. Sakazuki is kinda the first one hating them.
C). Has no way to track Luffy since he could have gone to number of Islands after Dressrosa so the trail is cold.
I've already said how it would happen.
The WG issues a new poster in which "Vinsmoke Sanji" is written -> it's big news that he'll marry with Pudding -> everyone with experience in the NW knows what it means (Sanji won't be a SH anymore) -> Fujitora hears about it (not hard to make him hear about it) -> Smoker calls him "hey, move your ass up in Bigmom's territory, he'll be there for sure !" or Fujitora just understands what kind of brat Luffy is and guesses he'll be there.
E). Fujitora wouldn't be dumb enough to walk in blindly into a Yonko territory.
Fujitora is actually strong and it's not like he was rushing on the 3sweet commanders+Bigmom like Luffy. He would just be waiting around her territory or something like that, just like how Smoker was waiting near FishmanIsland. And if he wants to get in, he could now that the seaslugs are off.
Oda still has given Blackbeard the best showing for a DF user, back then (and still to this day) Blackbeard power is freighting.
Besides for a like four characters (WB, Shanks, Garp and Aokiji) Ace was bar none the strongest person we seen in the series and when he meets up with Blackbeard Banaro Island he shrugs of Ace's signature attack that destroy BW fleet.
Teach reveals the fruit he killed for, proceeds to suck up the town and destroy it in a show of its power, shows of its weakness good enough with BB getting back up afterwards, then he shows the true horror of the fruit and what it can do to DF users with a simple touch that not even Sea Stone can do.
Then he proceeds to just dominate the fight being able to take anything Ace can throw at him without any trouble while Ace is clearly struggling and failing in the fight.
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Oh well, whatever, screw the NN purpose of the thread…
... I am still betting on Teach going there. Mostly because Pudding latent ability to read poneglyphs didn't lead to anything and Teach will need someone with this ability to remain a rival to Luffy once he starts following the Road Poneglyphs. The Yonkou reached a wall because they don't have anyone who can read the poneglyphs and Luffy will be able to move past that point thanks to Robin, for Teach to measure up to him by the end of the manga he will need someone who can do it as well.
Pudding to get the giant serum, become one of the captains and arranges herself to be sanji's endgame opponent? How you ask, she reached into eiichero oda's mind.
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Didn't one of his Titan Captains just got his ass handed to a measly 600 million bounty?
Bounties =/ power level. I'm sure sabo would have won without the mera mera but it wouldnt be a stomp.
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Nevertheless :
- Tottland's surveillance network is down (no more sea slugs)
- tart fleets are either sunken, disabled, or at best dropped their guard duty to track down of Straw Hats / Firetanks / Germa
- Whole Cake Castle's in ruins > central HQ disorganized, treasure vault ripe for pillaging
- 2 of the 3 sweet commanders will have taken severe damage by the end of the arc
- incoming further losses in the grand finale, everyone's converging towards Cocoa Island and the Germa 66 are still at full might
- to top it off every major crook from the Underground is present to spread the news and/or exploit the situation themselves
Big Mom probably won't be literally defeated, this much I agree on and it would indeed be underwhelming to off-panel her. But I can completely imagine a situation where in the following days a hostile force (Marines or BB, or even Shanks - he is a pirate, too) invades Tottland and the remnants of the Big Mom Pirates (Mama included) are forced to abandon their homeland. Consider the possibility that, while rejuvenated by the cake, Big Mom may still be incapacitated for a while leaving her children with no option but to turn tail if the likes of Fujitora and Akainu show up with a large enough fleet.
Looking at the big picture, in recent arcs the Straw Hats have upset the status quo wherever they go. Fishmen are eager to come in the open and on route to the Reverie; the end of Smiles and weapons traffic resolved ingoing conflicts and sparked new ones; the Minks are preparing to invade Wano after centuries of living in secrecy on their illusive island, … I can't imagine the events in Tottland not having severe repercussions, especially after the blow to both Big Mom's military power and her credit as a Yonkou.
This would make a lot of sense if the big mom pirates we're gonna tie into elbaf a lot. Which I'm pretty undecided about but big mom going there strikes me as interesting
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Kaidou was introduced as a guy with a deathwish, Blackbeard taking him down after Luffy weakens him makes perfect sense.
And BB beating Shanks eventually is all but set in stone.
And he already killed Whitebeard.
BM doesn't have to be beaten by the end if she's turned sort of ally, but she does obviously have to be taken off the table. We'll see what happens to her after she's been fed the amazing cake and had her memories restored and gets to see that she personally destroyed her entire base, something her family has always hidden from her up until now.
I reeeeeally dont see BB showing up and killing her, that would just be one too many emperors for him. And playing the "BB shows up and finishes an already weakened Yonkou" card will get repetitive very fast.
I feel she could still have a role in the story without personally intervening combat wise
Plus Sabo is second in command of the Revolutionists right behind Dragon and taught by him, seemingly his martial art set is dragon based.
Because status. Kaidou is currently "the strongest creature in the world." He was introduced with a death wish, so that makes him killable by Oda.
But Oda wouldn't kill anyone without a specific story reason. What would the marines killing him do? Nothing that beating down Whitebeard didn't. What would BB killing him do? Provide another devil fruit powerup. Hype the final villain. Change the balance of the world power. And maybe give him the confidence to go after Shanks?
As noted, BB needs a steady string of hype. He's got lots of offscreen things going, By the time we get through Wano in 2 or 3 years, we'll be entering the end game for the series. At that point we'll have Elbaf and maybe one or two other islands we haven't heard about yet and then its onto Raftel. He'll need some on-camera events.
Once Luffy beats a Yonkou, he'll have beaten the strongest creature in the world. No matter how much help he had doing it, he'll be officially top tier… so we need to raise the stakes and have the final villain show that same level of power. In 2-3 years when Wano ends, Whitebeard's death will have been 9 or 10 years and 40 volumes prior. And for all that him killing Shanks will have the emotional pull, Shanks hasn't been established as un unstoppable world shaking monster (he even lost an arm to a sea king). it won't have the dramatic powerhouse effect of "Oh he's so powerful and scary now!" It'll have the dramatic effect of "he's a bastard!" which are two different goals..
At that point in the story, beating down the strongest thing we've ever seen will be an event and we need to get hyped for the next thing to be even bigger. Right now, Big Mom is already overshadowed by Kaidou. Beating her wouldn't hype or power up anything, and its just a little too early still to completely shake up the world balance. After Kaidou will be the time for everything to go to hell.
(Similarly, that'll be when the crew gets their next bounties, even though it would make sense for them to get them updated again after BM, narratively after Kaidou and for their final bounties is what makes sense.)
Now, let me be clear. I'm not saying Blackbeard 100% will kill Kaidou. I'm not drawing a line in the sand on that like BB killing Shanks or BB getting an ancient weapon, and I'm not convinced that's where the story HAS to go like I am on some other things. But for organic progression of the story, clearing out the board and threat escalation it makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, it seems obvious Moria will show up next arc but he can't just cut shadows whenever he wants. It'd be awesome if Moria shows up and finishes Kaidou off and gets revenge. But then what? What's Moria add to the story from there? What does him finishing Kaidou build up to? Personal satisfaction for him, sure, but for the narrative as a whole?
Robby, I had a debate with another person here about the timing of BB coming to Wano. Do you think with such a big saga as this oda is prepared to let the whole allied crew and everyone be aware of blackbeard coming in to steal the kill, and take the fruit. I was heavily opposed to BB deciding to use Wano as his own base and undo all the progress they would have tried to make but i do se the possibility oda might want to not have wano be a complete victory. I'd say the part I was most conflicted about is the role of the ex WB pirates would they sacrifice themselves in front of luffy to hold off BB? Would that be a sign luffy couldn't hold his promise? I know most think shiryu will get jozu's if he hasnt already and for some reason burgess would get marco's but i dont know whether that will be known to the strawhats.
So I kind of asked a lot of questions there to simplify.
1. When do you think BB would strike at kaido and would oda hold off BB appearance to preserve the celebration banquet/happy ending feel?
2. If BB confronts the crew at Wano, do you see Oda letting luffy be saved the WB crew at the cost of their own death or would that overwrite his promise to protect everyone if it happens in front of him?
@uniaka:
He needed law for doflamingo to turn his organs into lasagna and other people to protect him for 10 minutes from dofla. He needed nami to make cracker's armor useless with her rain, he needed brulee to save his as every 10 minutes from katakuri, yet he will solo the first yonkou? No.
Once Luffy beats a Yonkou, he'll have beaten the strongest creature in the world. No matter how much help he had doing it, he'll be officially top tier… so we need to raise the stakes and have the final villain show that same level of power.
@uniaka:
And luffy won't beat the first yonkou in a legit way or else he would surpass all yonkous from the start with 7-8 years of the manga left.
Yes, that's why he's not beating Big Mom in a straight out fight. But Kaidou will basically be the last stop before the endgame when its time to start really hyping BB and flip the tables in terms of world balance and status quo.
Also, never said BB would get the dragon fruit. He has a crew after all. I half epect it to go to SHiryu so Zoro can fight a dragon and because of the four chinese gods, including Azure Dragon Seiryu.
Or he gets Jozu's diamond fruit so Zoro can cut diamond. Either way.
Moria using a Kaidou zombie is NOT what Oda is going to do with it. Too OP and too disrespectful to the dead. People that were dead before the series become zombies, fine. People that died during the series? Not really Oda's bag.
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1. When do you think BB would strike at kaido and would oda hold off BB appearance to preserve the celebration banquet/happy ending feel?
It would absolutely be an epilogue after Wano is no longer in danger. Oda's already done the war, he's not about to spend two years on a mega war and not have it turn out okay for the civilians.
Maybe not the major world players, but the civilians (Momo in particular) will be okay.
2. If BB confronts the crew at Wano, do you see Oda letting luffy be saved the WB crew at the cost of their own death or would that overwrite his promise to protect everyone if it happens in front of him?
Nope. Oda isn't one for long term sacrifices that are pointless and I don't think he would do one for the finale for an arc. COnsidering he already killed Ace for that sort of thing, and Shanks is on the chopping block, I don't think that's really a required step.
But hey, maybe if Pedro stays dead.
Depends on if BB can remove devil fruits without killing, I guess.
I don´t see BB taking out Kaidou to be honest. Taking out Kaidou, except for his devil fruit of course, does not give him any kind of advantage or reward that he can´t get by beating Shanks and Shanks has been established as among the elite of the world, so taking care of a already weakened Kaidou does not create any kind of hype that taking care of a 100% Shanks does not create.
Not to forget that i bet Oda would not like drawing Luffy facing an ability he faced before, both for his sake and the audience´s sake.
Nah, i fully expect that the clash between Shanks and BB will not be long after Luffy takes care of Kaidou.
Nah, i fully expect that the clash between Shanks and BB will not be long after Luffy takes care of Kaidou.
My take has ben for a long time now that Shanks will try to prevent BB from reaching Raftel and that the discovery of One Piece by Luffy will coincide with the destruction of the Red Hair Pirates by Teach.
Preferably, Shanks and Luffy will have met before. Elbaf, which was once suggested by Greg to be a "cooldown-arc" after Wano, would be a good space for that. Would also fulfill Luffy's promise to give the hat back after he's become a great pirate. What better moment for this than after defeating one of the Yonko? If Oda wants to go that route. Though Luffy will probably have his hat for the rest of the series, maybe except for the end.
There's also the incident between Shanks and Kaido before Marineford. How was Shanks able to stop Kaido unharmed? My guess is that he made some kind of deal with him and that this may influence events at Wano.
Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. 
Hell Robby, RomanceDawn, Count Mario (I think?), and others see them getting together, hell Greg himself sees it in one of his columns or at least sees Oda heading that way.
And if they do get married/promise his gag could just change a bit to include him fighting of temptation remembering he got someone waiting for him.
I'll have another post in the WCI thread around the whole two soon, the families again and how i see the arc ending.
I would also like to say these guys arn't shippers in any way like the trash shippers you see on Oro like in the SaNa thread.
These guys are rational thoughtful players.
I can see that it's moving towards PuddingxSanji so I can read the cues but honestly I think it's a very poor choice.
Yes, that's why he's not beating Big Mom in a straight out fight. But Kaidou will basically be the last stop before the endgame when its time to start really hyping BB and flip the tables in terms of world balance and status quo.
Also, never said BB would get the dragon fruit. He has a crew after all. I half epect it to go to SHiryu so Zoro can fight a dragon and because of the four chinese gods, including Azure Dragon Seiryu.
Or he gets Jozu's diamond fruit so Zoro can cut diamond. Either way.
Yonkou fruit that is also named world's strongest a bit too much for the underlings?
And anyone besides bb getting kaidou's fruit would be worse. At least BB has two other fruits, but the Other guys get only 1 fruit so they would be even more like kaidou. So one of the SHs would get mini kaidou ? Would be like them getting the previous villains of luffy, when all their enemies stand out from luffy's ones. Nami gets enel, sanji gets Lucci, zoro get doflamingo, usopp gets crocodile and so on.
The diamond fruit could work since they didn't face and beat the diamond user before, and shilliew would still get to look like himself.
Anyway, with how kaidou is the animal Kingdom or beast pirates leader, luffy getting the shadows of all minks to create beast nightmare luffy would be fitting to beat kaidou.
Oda portrayed the SHs' situation as totally fucked since the beginning (Sanji must marry Pudding, or else ! And he was barely capable of taking down the third strongest commander). Which raised my expectations about an original way to unravel this mess (like Togashi would do I guess, even though sometimes he can come up with ass-pulled ideas like "the old geezer had a nuke in his ass all along").
What's even more bad is how long the escape is taking.
Oh, I see. What series did Togashi do again? The name sounds familiar.
1/ Luffy's awakening helps to actually escape and not just beat Katakuri (maybe he will though)
Well, I can't see how his awakening would help them to escape, since I am betting it might end up changing things to rubber like Katakuri and Doflamingo. Can you go more into detail about this?
2/ The Fishman pirates do something with the sea. Seriously, why the fuck aren't they just sinking Bigmom's entire fleet ??? This is what the Sun Pirates were doing back then
Well, Big Mom's fleet is huge, so they might sink a bunch, but eventually they will get caught; seems like a risky move to do honestly, but it would be cool if the Sun Pirates sunk every ship; but it is not realistic in a sense. There also might be other fishmen that would be part of mom's fleet, so that might be another risk as well.
3/ Luffy needs help to protect his relatives, and his relatives' relatives (like Zeff for instance). He either manages to do something with his fleet, or relies on either his daddy or the redhead guy for a moment. I'm not really okay for the latter, because it'd bring up all the things about Luffy not being able to protect his own friends.
Well, that happens in the past, and it be nice to go for a more unique way for this arc; plus we can't forget the fact that Big Mom will chase them still if they run away. So, obviously, having a truce will help the Strawhats more; as it is already enough that others are after them, like the Marines; and I believe Kaido's crew. It would be nice to lighten the load.
4/ Sanji actually redeems himself instead of baking a fucking cake
I have to disagree with you on this. I actually like how he is making the cake and showing off his talent. Plus, I do feel like he has to defend the cake as well. Also, if there was no cake, Big Mom would still go on a rampage, and probably die. So, of course with what I said earlier, it would not be a good idea to have an entire fleet after the Strawhats. Big Mom's crew is like a giant army in my opinion.
5/ The Marines intervene. Someone like Fujitora, because he's just chasing down Luffy (which wouldn't be ass-pulled) and was waiting all along on his ship at the "frontier" because it's Bigmom's territory (or at least, he waits for him and the SHs are caught in a clusterfuck between Bigmom and Fujitora). Now he can get in because the fishman pirates did something to the seaslugs. And how does he know Luffy is there ? because he knows what Sanji marrying Pudding involves, and he knows Luffy's personality–-> Luffy wouldn't abandon one of his friends.
But now it's too late I guess
Well, he still would want to catch Luffy, plus it would be risky for me to go into Big Mom's territory; unless he has an entire army like it was in the Marineford arc. Plus, again, by the Strawhats escaping, the Big Mom Pirates will still pursue them since from your suggestions if there was no cake then –-> Big Mom would die ----> Big Mom's crew will get revenge at the Strawhats, since they were the ones to destroy the cake in the first place.
6/ They do something goofy, like passing the Sunny through a giant mirror lol
That would be interesting to see, but from what we have seen; there is no water in the Mirror World.
Also let's not forget about Zeff and Iva's lives being threatened. That's actually the reason why people believe the cake will turn Bigmom into an ally or something.
I mean, at this point just give a cake to Kaido and Sakazuki. And Sanji ends the plot on his own. Ami right ? Also, a very good pie for Teach, and it should do it
Um, what? Expect there was already a plan to take down Kaido for example. Also, he does not have a eating disorder like Big Mom does. The point of this arc was to save Sanji; and not kick Big Mom's ass. Hence why there was just a small number to go and rescue Sanji. Also, what is wrong in having Big Mom as an ally or be at peace after this arc?
I feel like you are overthinking this whole cake thing. Not everything has to be solve with fighting; plus this is a very original and unique way for an arc to end, instead of the same old routine.
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Oh, I see. What series did Togashi do again? The name sounds familiar.
HunterXHunter and Yu Yu Hakusho.
@uniaka:
Anyway, with how kaidou is the animal Kingdom or beast pirates leader, luffy getting the shadows of all minks to create beast nightmare luffy would be fitting to beat kaidou.
Repeating the ending of Thriller Bark would be the worst repeat of all.
I have already mentioned how Morgans will help Robin spread the knowledge about the secrets of the world, and he will be the author of the Adventures of a Brave Man of Sea. But what would be his role during the final war, and more importantly whom would be his enemy?
Well, let's say that the events of the void century are about to repeat in the present and therefore the final war and its victor will dictate how history is written. Morgans' struggle would be to get the biggest scoop. How his captain Pirate King Monkey D. Luffy defeated Blackbeard and whatever ploy the World Government brings. He will have to run across the entire battlefield chasing his captain so he can document everything he does and tell how the events really unfolded. His enemy? Well you know him of course. Expose Absa, he has become Blackbeard's chronicler and will try to photo bomb each picture Morgans takes. He awakened his fruit and when things are about to get heated, he ~exposes~ his crew. Always with him, a director of photography, someone that will always ruins the scene, a camera operator and a den den mushi imaging technician (he does photoshop with den den mushis).
How could Morgans ever overcome?!
