Hey, this is Pedro's view. And he's dead. Don't you dare question fan imaginations in a next strawhat thread. Especially when they make more sense than Oda's image.
I don't want this to come off as snarky but….did you just make fun of yourself?
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Not sure that is connected like that. Luffy is the one to bring the new dawm, but he will be the "face", Pedro recognizes this by asking him about his plans, and that he will need Mama's Poneglyph, then Kaido and further on. Just because, Luffy is the one, he will still need help in achieving said dawn. As shown with Pedro, former captain of the Nox pirates, whom helped Luffy be closer to that change, by helping with Big Mom's road poneglyph.. Moving forward, Luffy will need further help to achieve the new dawn.
Even if the Nox pirates only focus on getting the extra poneglyphs, not the road nor the ones that complete the rio. I think that Robin's dream will involve translating all the stones. But I wouldn't like it if the Starw Hats find all of them coincidentally as they travel towards Raftel.
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We are somewhat still on topic, we were talking about Wano and the final war because a member suggested Marco as a new crew member amd in my opinion is hard to not talk about those two future arcs when considering why he wouldn't join.
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How is it any better for Nox Pirates 2.0 to just hand-deliver it to them? That'd be so boring. Out of all the coincidences the Straw Hats encounter, that's a very minor one.
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I don't want this to come off as snarky but….did you just make fun of yourself?
Kind of? Yeah, why not.
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Not sure that is connected like that. Luffy is the one to bring the new dawm, but he will be the "face", Pedro recognizes this by asking him about his plans, and that he will need Mama's Poneglyph, then Kaido and further on. Just because, Luffy is the one, he will still need help in achieving said dawn. As shown with Pedro, former captain of the Nox pirates, whom helped Luffy be closer to that change, by helping with Big Mom's road poneglyph.. Moving forward, Luffy will need further help to achieve the new dawn.
Even if the Nox pirates only focus on getting the extra poneglyphs, not the road nor the ones that complete the rio. I think that Robin's dream will involve translating all the stones. But I wouldn't like it if the Starw Hats find all of them coincidentally as they travel towards Raftel.
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We are somewhat still on topic, we were talking about Wano and the final war because a member suggested Marco as a new crew member amd in my opinion is hard to not talk about those two future arcs when considering why he wouldn't join.
Meh, I'm just not wild about yet another DF user joining. Other than him being another guy as well, I've no particular objection to him.
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How is it any better for Nox Pirates 2.0 to just hand-deliver it to them? That'd be so boring. Out of all the coincidences the Straw Hats encounter, that's a very minor one.
Because then at least its another group actively seeking and questing for them.
Robin isn't there to actually read the ones that Big Mom has, but that doesn't affect anything. And we barely saw any real effort in her "hunt" during Fishman Island, she just went straight to it off camera. ANd she saw some during the timeskip.
If there's gotta be a whole bunch of pieces lying around its better to to have someone hunting them down than to have our heroes coincidentally find every single one their first time through on the one path they take.
They're getting an adventure out of finding the biggest most important ones, the ones held by emperors and that make a treasure map. The rest are just pages of a history book… a history book we're not even going to read till Robin has put all the pieces together anyway.
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It'd make more sense to call themselves the dawn pirates then right? If everyone is sure pedro is gonna come back Im pretty sure he'd change the name
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It'd make more sense to call themselves the dawn pirates then right? If everyone is sure pedro is gonna come back Im pretty sure he'd change the name
Maybe it depends on if he works more closely under Nekomamushi or Inuarashi since they function during a different part of a day. LOL. But I'd love to see the Minks doing what the Tontatta have started doing, and give pirating a whirl. That's a crew Carrot would do well in.
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Carrot needs a crew that explores the world. The nox pirates were a crew doing just that. Therefore Carrot will accomplish her goal by doing this.
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He actually posted the same thing 2 years ago.
Just a detail.
Well, if you love One Piece, you love to recycle. Understandable.
Thx there, Kageboy.
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Sabo literally inherited Ace's will and power, the power that Aikanu openly mocked as weaker than his own. Ace, who died trying to protect Luffy.
Luffy may be in on that fight, but Sabo is the one that gets to win it and actually protect Luffy. Maybe tag teamed with Coby for the soul of the Marines.
You can´t really call it mocking if it´s actually true + the impact of Akainu killing Ace right in front of Luffy in order to protect him is simply too big, both for the audience and Luffy himself for someone else to finish off Akainu without Luffy´s involvement. Sabo inheriting the fruit makes it pretty much a given that we will see a confrontation between Sabo and Akainu, however big it may be, possibly while Luffy is dealing with Blackbeard (though other scenarios are certainly possible as well) but ultimately, Luffy has to redeem himself against Akainu.
Sabo actually protecting Luffy would be more than meaningless since Ace already managed to do that against Akainu by giving his life. The takeaway from that incident is Luffy´s inability to save Ace and Akainu killing Ace right in front of Luffy since he was unable to protect himself against Akainu, hence in the second confrontation between Luffy and Akainu, the former has to prove that now he is able to do what he was not 2 years ago.
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If there's gotta be a whole bunch of pieces lying around its better to to have someone hunting them down than to have our heroes coincidentally find every single one their first time through on the one path they take.
Did we get a confirmation of this? I mean, it's also in my headcannon, but I don't remember if it was said out loud.
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Did we get a confirmation of this? I mean, it's also in my headcannon, but I don't remember if it was said out loud.
I think it got said somewhere along the way that there were X known poneglyphs, so they need to at least see those at some point.
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How is it any better for Nox Pirates 2.0 to just hand-deliver it to them? That'd be so boring. Out of all the coincidences the Straw Hats encounter, that's a very minor one.
Makes no difference to me, to each their own I suppose.
Robby summed it up pretty well. It might not make a huge difference, but it is part of the world building that makes One Piece so unique. If it pertained to something else maybe, but the history of the world, a secret that has been kept hidden for 800 years. The fact that Roger had to do a second trip around the world to find these stones, and how scattered we have seen their appearances. These stones are hidden around the world, from which the Straw Hats are taking one path.
Also, the reason I say the least important ones, is in response to many saying there is no need for the Nox Pirates (or a separate group hunting for Poneglyphs for that matter). My compromise is that the least they could do is look for the unimportant ones, given the presentation the stones have been given. A world setting built from many pieces put together is better than a story dictated by coincidences. I wouldn't call it a minor coincidence when the topic is one of the biggest mysteries in One Piece. It's basically the foundation of the current systems of power.
However, Oda is clever and in my opinion he has put two to three pieces that he can potentially use further down the line to make his world building better without having to miraculously give the Straw Hats these stones as they travel.
1. The Nox Pirates, a friendly group whom is interested in collecting the stones to bring about a new dawn. They may have been disbanded, but there are some elements for this group to reform.
2. Being able to make a paper copy of the Poneglyphs. This one is probably the method they would use if in real time, Oda runs out of space to develop the quest for the Poneglyphs.
3. The Black Market. With point 2, Oda can easily/conveniently introduce a dealer that his business are the poneglyph scripts, which the Straw Hats run intoMeh, I'm just not wild about yet another DF user joining. Other than him being another guy as well, I've no particular objection to him.
I wasn't advocating for him neither. I think Marco's purpose in the story lies elsewhere.
Did we get a confirmation of this? I mean, it's also in my headcannon, but I don't remember if it was said out loud.
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That's the total of stones, and in the series we know that Robin has had contact with like (Ohara, her teen phonegliph, Alabasta, Skypea, Fishman Island, Red Zou) 6, and we know the general location of 4 more (the 3 of Big Mom and Kaidoh, who could have more like Big Mom), and we have to see at the very least one more (the final red one).
She has 6, there are 3 definitely on her way, and has to read 2 more for the series to end. 11.
We have the list, but not her actual progression.
The revolutionaries might had a few (now under Blackbeard), or the rubbings at least, and the WG at the very least Ohara's and any of these that they got their hands on.
Oh, she doesn't just need the 4 red ones, she needs the 9 rio ones.
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The one in Alabasta that talked about Pluton, the one in Skypiea that Roger himself wrote a note on, the one at Fishman Island that was Joy Boy's message (was that the one Jimbei brought to Big Mom as a gift?), and the ones Brook made etchings of here, and any others I'm forgetting, how many have the Straw Hats come across so far?
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Robin has read:
Ohara's: Has the name of the Ancient Kingdom so I asssume it is a Rio Poneglyph.
Teen Robin: Unknown.
Alabasta: information about Pluton.
Skypeia: Information about Poseidon.
Fishman Island: Apology from Joy Boy.
Zou: Road Poneglyph.Upcoming stones are: 2 Roads and 2 unknowns. Therefore her progression would be:
3/4 Road Poneglyph
3/9 Rio Pineglyph
1/17 Miscellaneous
3 Unknowns.@BattleFranky69: No the one Jinbe brought is different.
So, the Straw Hats still need to find at worst: 7 more Poneglyohs. At best 4 more, and that is if all 3 that we don't know their purpose are Rio types.
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From what I gathered:
Robin has read:
Ohara's: Has the name of the Ancient Kingdom so I asssume it is a Rio Poneglyph.
Teen Robin: Unknown.
Alabasta: information about Pluton.
Skypeia: Information about Poseidon.
Fishman Island: Apology from Joy Boy.
Zou: Road Poneglyph.Upcoming stones are: 2 Roads and 2 unknowns. Therefore her progression would be:
3/4 Road Poneglyph
3/9 Rio Pineglyph
1/17 Miscellaneous
3 Unknowns.@BattleFranky69: No the one Jinbe brought is different.
So, the Straw Hats still need to find at worst: 7 more Poneglyohs. At best 4 more, and that is if all 3 that we don't know their purpose are Rio types.
Yeah, I kind of figured based on the way he said it, it made it sound like he found it elsewhere but I wasn't completely sure, since he might have just been faking her out by making her think there were even more she could get her hands on or something since he was planning on leaving her employ anyway by then.
I didn't remember there being one at Ohara, that's cool. I'd bet anything that she was able to find at least one during the time skip, especially with the help of the Revolutionaries. If anyone besides her is interested in learning the true history, it's those guys.
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You can´t really call it mocking if it´s actually true + the impact of Akainu killing Ace right in front of Luffy in order to protect him is simply too big, both for the audience and Luffy himself for someone else to finish off Akainu without Luffy´s involvement. Sabo inheriting the fruit makes it pretty much a given that we will see a confrontation between Sabo and Akainu, however big it may be, possibly while Luffy is dealing with Blackbeard (though other scenarios are certainly possible as well) but ultimately, Luffy has to redeem himself against Akainu.
Sabo actually protecting Luffy would be more than meaningless since Ace already managed to do that against Akainu by giving his life. The takeaway from that incident is Luffy´s inability to save Ace and Akainu killing Ace right in front of Luffy since he was unable to protect himself against Akainu, hence in the second confrontation between Luffy and Akainu, the former has to prove that now he is able to do what he was not 2 years ago.
Everything you said is true. However:
I would argue that Akainu's bragging being the truth only makes an intense 1v1 showdown even more likely because of the suspense in how Sabo overcomes his natural weakness and overcomes the flaw his brother couldn't.
Sabo also needs to redeem himself for not being at Marineford to help Luffy and Ace. If he was there, Ace might have liced. Oda even drew a what if page of Sabo saving Ace and Luffy in a book/magazine, if I am correct. It makes sense for Luffy to make up for his weakness back then, but I can also see Oda succumbing to a fan desired reimagining if Sabo saving Luffy without dying like Ace did.
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Yeah, I kind of figured based on the way he said it, it made it sound like he found it elsewhere but I wasn't completely sure, since he might have just been faking her out by making her think there were even more she could get her hands on or something since he was planning on leaving her employ anyway by then.
He discovered the stone during a cover story where Jinbe was on his way from Fishman Island to Big Mom's territory.
I didn't remember there being one at Ohara, that's cool. I'd bet anything that she was able to find at least one during the time skip, especially with the help of the Revolutionaries. If anyone besides her is interested in learning the true history, it's those guys.
I assume she might have encountered some of the stones. I am not sure how Oda will progress that plot forward to be honest, as I said before there are quite a few ways he can deal with it.
For example in Wano there could be up to 5 Poneglyph scripts/stones. Kaido having a Road Poneglyph and let's say one or two more of his own. I assume the Kozuki clan's secrets are engraved in another stone. Personally, I'd rather there not being so many stone/scripts bundled together and I think it is a great opportunity to make that quest more realistic. Not to mention give characters currently present, long term goals and achievements. As someone said Carrot's dream of seeing the world would be accomplished as well if she went with the Nox pirates looking for stones. They will literally go around the world trying to look everywhere for them. While the Straw Hats are already on a somewhat linear path.
I don't think we have met the new crew member yet. If we had to choose from character we have seen, the two I offered (Pekoms and Morgans) would be my preferences, that is not to say that Carrot isn't on the list, just a bit further down.
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He discovered the stone during a cover story where Jinbe was on his way from Fishman Island to Big Mom's territory.
I assume she might have encountered some of the stones. I am not sure how Oda will progress that plot forward to be honest, as I said before there are quite a few ways he can deal with it.
For example in Wano there could be up to 5 Poneglyph scripts/stones. Kaido having a Road Poneglyph and let's say one or two more of his own. I assume the Kozuki clan's secrets are engraved in another stone. Personally, I'd rather there not being so many stone/scripts bundled together and I think it is a great opportunity to make that quest more realistic. Not to mention give characters currently present, long term goals and achievements. As someone said Carrot's dream of seeing the world would be accomplished as well if she went with the Nox pirates looking for stones. They will literally go around the world trying to look everywhere for them. While the Straw Hats are already on a somewhat linear path.
I don't think we have met the new crew member yet. If we had to choose from character we have seen, the two I offered (Pekoms and Morgans) would be my preferences, that is not to say that Carrot isn't on the list, just a bit further down.
Ah, you're the first person I've seen on here who feels the same way about that as I do.
There might end up being a lesser delay between finding the poneglyphs from here on since it feels like that whole thing is winding down now that they're basically halfway through the Road ones.
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Ah, you're the first person I've seen on here who feels the same way about that as I do.
Huh, several people that have posted here have shared the same sentiment lol
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There are others, but you won't see them pop up much because this thread focuses on characters that we have seen, not whatever our imagination wants. (Dwarf Giantess that is a clumsy heavy hitter)
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There are others, but you won't see them pop up much because this thread focuses on characters that we have seen, not whatever our imagination wants. (Dwarf Giantess that is a clumsy heavy hitter)
Giant Upper Body and Dwarf Lower body?
Wouldnt be too far away from oda's proportions :ninja:
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I think there's like 5 people who think carrot is possible and 15 who dont lol. By mid-wano we will have a pretty good idea who is gonna join.
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Everything you said is true. However:
I would argue that Akainu's bragging being the truth only makes an intense 1v1 showdown even more likely because of the suspense in how Sabo overcomes his natural weakness and overcomes the flaw his brother couldn't.
Sabo also needs to redeem himself for not being at Marineford to help Luffy and Ace. If he was there, Ace might have liced. Oda even drew a what if page of Sabo saving Ace and Luffy in a book/magazine, if I am correct. It makes sense for Luffy to make up for his weakness back then, but I can also see Oda succumbing to a fan desired reimagining if Sabo saving Luffy without dying like Ace did.
That could be accomplished by having Sabo give Akainu an actual fight to show that the inferiority of the ability does not have to determine the outcome of the fight but all in all, while the significance is there, it´s certainly less than the blow Luffy had to suffer due to Ace´s death.
Sabo´s redemption would be simply being part of the battle this time, and not actually beating Akainu.
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I'm pretty sure Pedro is alive, and once he is revealed to be so I'm willing to bet he will be nakama. Strength wise he would be in the same league as Jinbe, Sanji, and Zoro especially with his sulong form. He's also gotten the most development this arc for a side character considering we got 2 very important flashbacks revealing how he has history with BigMom and how he wanted to travel with Roger but was too young. His role in WCI is similar to Brook's in thriller bark and this is significant cause WCI greatly resembles Thriller Bark. Pedro had his lifespan stolen, Brook had his shadow taken. I believe Pedro will get his lifespan back by the end of this arc and there is still a lot more to come from him. I'm hyped for his sulong form!
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I'm pretty sure Pedro is alive, and once he is revealed to be so I'm willing to bet he will be nakama. Strength wise he would be in the same league as Jinbe, Sanji, and Zoro especially with his sulong form. He's also gotten the most development this arc for a side character considering we got 2 very important flashbacks revealing how he has history with BigMom and how he wanted to travel with Roger but was too young. His role in WCI is similar to Brook's in thriller bark and this is significant cause WCI greatly resembles Thriller Bark. Pedro had his lifespan stolen, Brook had his shadow taken. I believe Pedro will get his lifespan back by the end of this arc and there is still a lot more to come from him. I'm hyped for his sulong form!
I agree Pedro has a few things Carrot doesn't but he still doesn't stand out from the rest of the crew quite enough compared to the usual things we look for when someone joins. But if people are to be believed and he'll have to have his soul put into a different body at the end of the arc, who knows, it may just do that. Too bad that would probably make it so Brook never then learns to possess other people's body with his disembodied soul.
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Pedro being alive would make him go to the top of the list. However, I fear that even if he gets his lifespan back and is alive, he might have suffered enough injuries that he might not be able to tag along. I think he might have lost both his legs.
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Nah, even if Pedro is alive he isn't joining. He already passed the torch, even the words Roger said to him he already passed on to Carrot.
No way he will step forward to the center stage after he gave way to the next generation. He is the night, he can't coexist with the dawn: he leads to it and then fades away so it can take place.Carrot was already set as Pedro successor. Either as the next SH or as the 8th captain of the fleet or whatever, the role intended for Pedro will be inherited by Carrot regardless of his status as dead or alive.
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I don't want to sound as arrogant, but is there seriously a debate about Pedro being alive? :blink:
I mean we know Oda's habits for years now and nothing so far suggests that Pedro won't end up as another Pell or Pagaya. I'm pretty sure that the odds are even in favor of Moscata "returning".
If Oda changes one of his poorer story-telling-habits and goes for killing characters outside flashbacks and watershed-events, so be it. But I seriously doubt it.
(This is not meant as an insult. I just feel it's pretty clear, given years of experience reading One Piece, that it's very simple: generally, there's a "No-death-rule" here.)
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That's true for now I can see him as an advisor type, or the One Piece version of Tails being a flying bomber if he still wants to fight. Franky gives him a jet fueled Kola.
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I don't want to sound as arrogant, but is there seriously a debate about Pedro being alive? :blink:
I mean we know Oda's habits for years now and nothing so far suggests that Pedro won't end up as another Pell or Pagaya. I'm pretty sure that the odds are even in favor of Moscata "returning".
If Oda changes one of his poorer story-telling-habits and goes for killing characters outside flashbacks and watershed-events, so be it. But I seriously doubt it.
(This is not meant as an insult. I just feel it's pretty clear, given years of experience reading One Piece, that it's very simple: generally, there's a "No-death-rule" here.)
A lot of the theories are that Pedro won't be alive in the 'traditional' sense. 'Cuz his body has to have got WRECKED. I'm still weirded out by the water bunnies in the wake of Punk Hazard so I honestly don't know and don't want to weigh in on how Oda's handling deaths.
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Bigmom changing her mind about the SHs is the second worst thing that'd happen in this arc, right beside baking the second cake.
Not saying ut won't happen, but it's a easy ass solution Oda would come with. Maybe even worse than a deus ex machinaSo how you gonna feel when they actually bake a third cake?
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hint: watch for Bavarois having the Flour Flour Fruit.
Katakuri is the minister of flour so it would be odd if Bavarois had the flour flour fruit but wasn’t the minister of flour because of some guy with mochi powers.
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Bigmom changing her mind about the SHs is the second worst thing that'd happen in this arc, right beside baking the second cake.
Not saying ut won't happen, but it's a easy ass solution Oda would come with. Maybe even worse than a deus ex machinaSo, question here. What would you suggest instead since with what we have seen Big Mom is a huge threat, and currently it be impossible to win against her in battle. So, which this in mind, what do you think would be a better solution to this situation? As in what would you propose instead of the making of a second cake, or the idea of Big Mom changing her mind about the Strawhats?
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She eats the cake and they go away. The End.
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So, question here. What would you suggest instead since with what we have seen Big Mom is a huge threat, and currently it be impossible to win against her in battle. So, which this in mind, what do you think would be a better solution to this situation? As in what would you propose instead of the making of a second cake, or the idea of Big Mom changing her mind about the Strawhats?
Oda portrayed the SHs' situation as totally fucked since the beginning (Sanji must marry Pudding, or else ! And he was barely capable of taking down the third strongest commander). Which raised my expectations about an original way to unravel this mess (like Togashi would do I guess, even though sometimes he can come up with ass-pulled ideas like "the old geezer had a nuke in his ass all along").
What's even more bad is how long the escape is taking.Here is what could be nice:
1/ Luffy's awakening helps to actually escape and not just beat Katakuri (maybe he will though)
2/ The Fishman pirates do something with the sea. Seriously, why the fuck aren't they just sinking Bigmom's entire fleet ??? This is what the Sun Pirates were doing back then
3/ Luffy needs help to protect his relatives, and his relatives' relatives (like Zeff for instance). He either manages to do something with his fleet, or relies on either his daddy or the redhead guy for a moment. I'm not really okay for the latter, because it'd bring up all the things about Luffy not being able to protect his own friends.
4/ Sanji actually redeems himself instead of baking a fucking cake
5/ The Marines intervene. Someone like Fujitora, because he's just chasing down Luffy (which wouldn't be ass-pulled) and was waiting all along on his ship at the "frontier" because it's Bigmom's territory (or at least, he waits for him and the SHs are caught in a clusterfuck between Bigmom and Fujitora). Now he can get in because the fishman pirates did something to the seaslugs. And how does he know Luffy is there ? because he knows what Sanji marrying Pudding involves, and he knows Luffy's personality–-> Luffy wouldn't abandon one of his friends.
But now it's too late I guess
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She eats the cake and they go away. The End.
And she's just letting them go–- because coup the burst ?
Also let's not forget about Zeff and Iva's lives being threatened. That's actually the reason why people believe the cake will turn Bigmom into an ally or something.
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Escape is fine:
1). Luffy not getting awakening now, thats for Wano and the only real hint of a breakthrough for Luffy is the next level in Haki.
2). They have done stuff, even if its just Praline they removed all the sea snails and as shown in the Fisher Tiger Flashback they tend to take ships by jumping on them so that means direct confrontation which they cannot do since there not strong enough.
3).Luffy protecting his friends right now cause if he didn't seperate Kata from the rest then they be dead.
4). Sanji doesn't need redemption and even if he does its the cake which will save everyone and is badass, get over yourself with your hangups on the cake (you also said you had expectations for an original way, and the cake isn't?)
5). Marines are too busy with the Revivre and I doubt they have a fleet waiting outside every Yonko territory just to take it over, not only that it would take time to mobloize a fleet to do so, Fuji himself will make an appearance at Revivre to plead for the Shikibukai destruction.
6). Not happening and again something goofy and original is somehow not a giant cake saving the day?Then again I'm on the one two punch of the Sanji Cake and Pudding being the key.
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2). They have done stuff, even if its just Praline they removed all the sea snails and as shown in the Fisher Tiger Flashback they tend to take ships by jumping on them so that means direct confrontation which they cannot do since there not strong enough.
No they literally just sink the ships. Except when they just wanted to punch actual humans I guess (or steal the stuff in the ships). Why do you think they were such a threat in sea ?
3).Luffy protecting his friends right now cause if he didn't seperate Kata from the rest then they be dead.
That's like, not the point
4). Sanji doesn't need redemption and even if he does its the cake which will save everyone and is badass, get over yourself with your hangups on the cake (you also said you had expectations for an original way, and the cake isn't?)
The cake is originally dumb
"oh no, I ate and spoiled the cake. Sorry for the readers, but we're gonna spend 30more chapters just to make another cake!!"
Also, the point is not that he is making a cake. But ANOTHER cake (also, eventually fucking up the pace). No one's bitching about Sanji doing what he's good at. I'm actually whining because it's redundant5). Marines are too busy with the Revivre and I doubt they have a fleet waiting outside every Yonko territory just to take it over, not only that it would take time to mobloize a fleet to do so, Fuji himself will make an appearance at Revivre to plead for the Shikibukai destruction.
Maybe he will do that at the Reverie. But I didn't say there should be a fleet waiting just outside her territory. I said Fujitora is suppose to hunt down Luffy, that's all.
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How do you think it will end Greg ?
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Am I the only one who thinks the resolution wouldn't be as complex as everyone else is thinking?
She eats the cake and they go away. The End.
That makes it seem like the last 20 chapters were just to set up sanji's big moment and a luffy-katakuri fight. It cant be left so open ended imo.
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How do you think it will end Robby?
Mom wrecks literally everything so even her children are desperate, the cake stops her, and then Pudding does something memory related. We have a witness to Big Mom eating her mentor for a reason, so that's gonna be a key thing. So mental cure. Possibly Chopper does something too.
She's going to end up, if not an outright ally, indebted.
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I think instead of her just checking her memory after she's carbed out for whatever reason, Pudding should confront Big Mom beforehand to distract her and maybe call her out for being a shitty mom. Her power stuns people when she checks the memory reel, right?
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I just don't see Big Mom learning about Carmel's fate. Like why would Pudding even look that up. Why would she even look into Streusen's mind in the first place. I can't imagine how Big Mom would even react to learning that besides becoming completely mind broken.
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I just don't see Big Mom learning about Carmel's fate. Like why would Pudding even look that up. Why would she even look into Streusen's mind in the first place. I can't imagine how Big Mom would even react to learning that besides becoming completely mind broken.
Obviously Streusen will have to be the one to mention it so that Pudding becomes aware of it. Don't know exactly how or why that'll be, but Oda put him there and had him be a witness for a reason.
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