Toriko and One Piece.
Worst manga to anime adaptation
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Toriko and One Piece.
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The One Piece anime is hit and miss most of the time. It can have a few good episodes, then a bad episode, or a few bad episodes, then a good stretch of good episodes. (All of the Otohime flashback was pretty good, but then came the arriving at the plaza part that seemed like it lasted forever).
But yeah, it being a series that can't stay constant in quality definitely makes it one of the worst adaptions I've seen. (It's still a guilty pleasure of mine though).
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The One Piece anime gives me cancer. :( I'll watch it when the dub gets that far but I just can't bring myself to sit through anymore of this awful pacing.
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Johji Manabe's Outlanders.
Took an 8 volume epic scope series with a large cast and made it into a 45 minute OVA with about 7 characters… a complete cliff notes version of the story missing huuuuge tracts of plot.
Drakkun wasn't handled much better.
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I haven't seen it in quite some time, but I remember finding the anime for Monster pretty well done, like the manga.
It was absolutely brilliant.
Around 70 episodes if I'm not mistaken, it was good enough for me to read the manga after i saw the series.Trigun.
I know a lot of people really liked it when they saw it back on toonami, but compared to the manga, it's atrocious. First, the violence is censored. This matters, because a big part of Trigun is the DESPAIR that Vash has to go through, and when everyone dies clean deaths it doesn't come through as much. Wolfwood's fight against Grey the Ninelives, for example, ends in Wolfwood shooting a rocket into Grey's chest cavity, and then strangling the midgets living inside him to death on top of the bloody corpse. For me that always stood out as a sort of "is this really the world they live in?" moment, as well as showing the contrast between Vash and Wolfwood. In the anime, Grey is a robot and gets blown up but still shoots a missile or something. bleh.
another thing, is Anime Vash is a major pussy who takes non-violence to the max. Nearly every episode ends with him staring down someone who has a gun to someone else's head, and Vash pleads with them to not fire. Then they usually turn on him, and he disarms them. It works, I guess, but it gets repetitive It also makes him look like an idiot who can't aim, neither of which are true. Because Manga Vash is totally willing to shoot a bitch, but he'll shoot them in the leg, or in the shoulder, or just wing 'em a little. He doesn't KILL, which is the really important part. But he's not stupid enough to believe that he can get by without at least wounding people. And with his gun skills, there's no reason why he can't shoot non-lethal wounds all day long.
in general, the anime just feels so neutered. There's not as much death, not as much violence, not as much despair, the heroes don't get beat up as much, there isn't that glorious finale with the people of the city actually understanding vash for once, Vash killing Legato lacks all impact, Legato himself is hardly as vile, and the animation is often still, repeated, or recycled.
Just about the only thing the anime did better was that Merle and Millie were more actual characters. I guess the anime handled the light-hearted, in-between-fights scenes better, and had more of them. But that's also why it was a lighter show, there was more humor and fun. in the manga, all the humor died a painful death about halfway through, and beat you down with the depressing, cynical, hateful nature of the world. Which makes Vash's moments of shining heroism all the more wonderful. The anime played it too safe, and too happy, and ended up not being worth anything.
I beg everyone who watched the anime to read the manga, please.
I'll read it.
Although Vash's extreme nonviolence was one of my favorite parts of the series, especially when (Spoiler for those of you who havn't watched/read it)! He was forced to kill Legato…I remember when I first watched it this was one of the biggest shockers of my life.
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One Piece, unfortunetally. I mean there are worse animes out there, sure, but none of them are based on such a good manga. It's just a crying shame that it has such poor budged and that Toei has to keep it running instead of doing it in seasons and taking breaks. Also Nausicaä… my god...
The opposite would be Black Lagoon for me. The manga is decent but the anime adaption is nice.
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Beelzebub. Has to be Beelzebub.
Downright awful. They kept overusing Beel's electricity and just misread all what the series was about.
I was extremely hyped for it at first, kept saying to my friends it would be fantastic. Showed them. They hated it. Now they'll never believe me about how good the manga can actually be. Shame.
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Trigun.
To be fair, the Trigun anime was made when the manga was only like two or three volumes in… and it didn't finish until a decade later. Episodes 5-10 are pretty much the only ones actually pulled from the manga, nearly everything else was filler based loosely on what the manga had juuust started to setup. (That the anime knew to kill Wolfwood YEARS before the manga got there is kinda kooky.) They basically had the just introduced designs of the gung-ho guns, and they had to make up most the anime based on that. Thats why the fights and their order and the outcomes are so radically different.
...it's also why episodes 5-10 were pretty much the only good ones.
Of course, the manga art is really hard to follow.
If they were to do a new Trigun adaptation today I'm sure it'd follow the manga scene for scene, the same way FMA: Brotherhood did.
Also Nausicaä… my god...
Same deal. Not the anime's fault Miyazaki was only a a fraction of the way into the story when the anime was made.
ESPECIALLY since Miyazaki himself did the anime version.
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What did it for me in One Piece were the fights.
They don't know how to animate them. The Pacing is also terrible to. However, when it comes to emotional moments they do pretty well.
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I might just be REALLLLLY tolerant of the anime, but I personally think One Piece is pretty bearable up to Amazon Lily
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The comedic timing in Beelzebub was completely butchered in the anime. Toriko was another disappointment, even though I adore some of the VA choices (Ryotaro Okiayu, Romi Park, Takahiro Sakurai). And I haven't been able to enjoy the One Piece anime (other than a few key moments) since Saoboady, pretty much solely due to unbearable pacing.
Some of the anime-only endings (due to unfinished manga or other issues) bug me a lot like Claymore and Eyeshield 21 but otherwise I generally enjoyed those series.
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For the most part it seems everyone is talking about series they like. we have this standard that we expect from awesome mangas and they let us down in anime form
The thing that bugs me is when series stop getting animated, whether its bad or not
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I might just be REALLLLLY tolerant of the anime, but I personally think One Piece is pretty bearable up to Amazon Lily
Nah, whoever says One Piece probably doesn't watch many anime. Maybe only One Piece, even.
Because they clearly have no idea of how terrible and butchered an adaptation can be. -
Princess Resurrection: Even though it got me into the manga, comparing the two. the manga comes out far ahead. Doesn't help that the anime has filler and that the show ended prematurely. Bleh.
Rave Master: One word: Pacing. It should not take this long to get through these fights. I know the manga was still going at the time and they were trying to avoid overtaking it but good grief, things were moving so slowly (and the first bits didn't even follow the manga either) that I just gave up and read the story in book form. Real pity too as the story got much better later on.
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My problem with listing One-Piece off as one of the worst id that the anime has some pretty amazing moments. Arlong, Drum, and Water 7 were all fantastic, with Drum being the absolute best. Overall it's easily my favorite arc in the anime, and is one of my favorite adaptations in general.
Also, Alabasta wasn't that badly done either. Things have been bad for a while now, but it still has some great moments.However, FMA: Brotherhood is hands down the best anime I have ever seen, and I'd rank the manga at like 5. Everything about the anime is gorgeous and well done, and I think it's the best dub I've ever seen as well.Then again, Brotherhood is the product of the manga being practically done when you start, and having a second chance to do it right.
Worst adaptation? Not to beat a dead horse, but yeah, it's Eyeshield.
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Nah, whoever says One Piece probably doesn't watch many anime. Maybe only One Piece, even.
Because they clearly have no idea of how terrible and butchered an adaptation can be.This.
It's really telling when the One Piece anime is the only thing someone can think of as the worst manga to anime adaptation.
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Yeah. Shame on me for not sitting down and watching hundreds of anime series a year. But really, don't really compare. As a stand alone series, really do think One Piece is one of the worst looking adaptions I ever seen. If anything, I think people that do find it bearable are the ones that just watch the show for "the moments", because honestly outside these moments, there's nothing much to say about the animation/art quality for the most part. Not saying that's a bad reason for sticking with a show. It's fine. I'm just saying that I find a show jarring to watch if it constantly switches animations styles as it goes. Instead I'd rather have a consistent look and feel for the show as whole, with subtle improvements and ups and quality as the series goes on (sorta like Pokemon, Bacccano!, Shin Chan, ect).
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I remember that Sket-Dance anime begin my latest dissapointment (other than One Piece) because of the Sket-Dan x Student Council arc not begin taken seriously. One Piece has many problems since forever, it makes for a bad adaptation no matter how good it got in whatever episode because it can get really bad suddenly.
I can't name another because I don't remember…Though, I'm glad that recently a lot of adaptations have been great, which many to name.
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If you can't finance a decent standard then don't do it at all
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surprised no one mentioned these two yet; NARUTO and BLEACH. the art isnt what kills it. Its the damn filler and stare down scenes. an example i rented a dvd of the part w/ 4 tails and the bridge and i labored to get through it. tho it is possible the anime sucks cause the manga sucks
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surprised no one mentioned these two yet; NARUTO and BLEACH. the art isnt what kills it. Its the damn filler and stare down scenes. an example i rented a dvd of the part w/ 4 tails and the bridge and i labored to get through it. tho it is possible the anime sucks cause the manga sucks
The Bleach anime was pretty decent though. It made Bleach tolerable by shoving 4 chapters into one episode. Even though the source material was bad I think they made the best out of a bad situation
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The characters seem baby-faced a lot of time, but KyoAni did that for Sword Art Online as well.
Admittedly a kind of irrelevant point to bring up, but… Sword Art Online was not by KyoAni. It just had very similar character-designs to KyoAni's stuff.
Anyway... Think I'm gonna have to say Dragon Ball. Though seeing how that at least had a valid excuse for its horrid pacing, perhaps Kai actually comes off a bit worse, seeing how even that felt like it moved too slowly, and in that case there was no excuse for it.
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Ruroni Kenshin OVAs… ALL OF THEM
Kenshin KILLS Shishio... KENSHIN KILLS SHISHIO … KENSHIN SPLITS SHISHIO'S HEAD IN HALFi Yes, I'm mad.
That or Bokurano, because the anime director completely missed the point and ruined the children's sacrifices. :getlost:
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Bokurano was pretty bad just for the cheap production alone.
Gantz was AWFUL, especially given how cinematic the manga already is. It's basically tailor-made for a really breathless, shocking and ultra-real horror film presentation, but it looked like shit.
Moyashimon had a great OP and nailed the CG elements but I thought it did a pretty bad job with the characters. -
Nah, whoever says One Piece probably doesn't watch many anime. Maybe only One Piece, even.
Because they clearly have no idea of how terrible and butchered an adaptation can be.Guilty. I see plenty of other examples amongst the thread, but do you have one adaptation that's really butchered?
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Guilty. I see plenty of other examples amongst the thread, but do you have one adaptation that's really butchered?
Yep, read and watch Zetman
Personally, i can not understand why OP is being nominated that often. Till Enies Lobby, the quality of the anime was really good actually, till Marineford it was still acceptable. Only after the TS, the quality declined immensely. -
Bokurano's case wasn't helped by the director hating the source material and deliberately going out of his way to change things. Makes one wonder how why he signed up to work on it anyway.
I haven't seen all of them, but the Kenshin OVAs feel like they deliberately go out of their way to make things dark for darkness's sake. A good way to turn what I felt was a fun manga series into something highly unappealing.
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Soul Eater I liked until I read the manga and realized it was super different after a while. And the anime ends weirdly. I liked the animation, but it misses a lot of the parts I loved in the manga.
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Bokurano's case wasn't helped by the director hating the source material and deliberately going out of his way to change things. Makes one wonder how why he signed up to work on it anyway.
I haven't seen all of them, but the Kenshin OVAs feel like they deliberately go out of their way to make things dark for darkness's sake. A good way to turn what I felt was a fun manga series into something highly unappealing.
You really felt like that? My opinion is that it was a nice addition to the main manga and storyline. Kenshin always appears as a finished character in RK, there was not much development except him falling in love with Kaoru. Even though it was mentioned in the manga, it was still nice to see how Kenshin got to be the person he actually is, namely through a tragedy.
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The manga was dark too at plenty of points, but that was balanced out by the wacky villain designs and over-the-top fights. Stuff like the whole death-by-STDs, the new death of Shishio mentioned above, and those other things added to the OVAs just felt very out of place to me.
It's hardly the worst adaptation out there, but giving characters reasons to angst for the sake of angsting just runs counter to the spirit of the original tale.
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The manga was dark too at plenty of points, but that was balanced out by the wacky villain designs and over-the-top fights. Stuff like the whole death-by-STDs, the new death of Shishio mentioned above, and those other things added to the OVAs just felt very out of place to me.
It certainly was totally different than the main storyline, i agree with that. In my opinion though, it is nice to see that Kenshin was not that complete and accomplished character without having gone through some major, hurtful things.
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Yep, read and watch Zetman
Will do.
Soul Eater I liked until I read the manga and realized it was super different after a while. And the anime ends weirdly. I liked the animation, but it misses a lot of the parts I loved in the manga.
I'm tempted to agree…..but they kept the humor of the manga, kept a lot of other important parts and I never found a jarring animation/art problem. So I wouldn't call it "worst", just really different.
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I'm tempted to agree…..but they kept the humor of the manga, kept a lot of other important parts and I never found a jarring animation/art problem. So I wouldn't call it "worst", just really different.
I'm tempted to agree with you too. Lol. Not the worst, but man I hate how so many anime just end poorly.
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Surprised TLC hasn't posted about Negima yet. But man, Negima…Horrible character designs, a vomit-inducing color palette, and shoddy, cheap animation. And that's just the visuals. One of the worse things they did was take the Kyoto arc, which was originally an exciting and action-filled school trip with the main cast that lasted about three volumes, and not only removed an important character, but cut the arc itself down to about two episodes.
...Which pretty much removed any sense of the excitement or danger the original carried, and in the end served to make the series look like another lame, generic harem comedy...
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Ruroni Kenshin OVAs… ALL OF THEM
Kenshin KILLS Shishio... KENSHIN KILLS SHISHIO … KENSHIN SPLITS SHISHIO'S HEAD IN HALFi Yes, I'm mad.
While none of the OVAs were anywhere close to faithful to the source material, and completely disregarded the theme of the original, they were good anime to watch in its own right. It's like what a lot of the fans call it, an official doujin anime. So no, they would not be worthy nominations in my eyes. There are far worse out there, where they butcher the original and maintain to be complete waste.
That or Bokurano, because the anime director completely missed the point and ruined the children's sacrifices. :getlost:
Missed the point? Perhaps.
But the original author was already a quoted sadist, who expressed mundane, self-fulfilling sadism for why he draws the stories he does. I'm not so inclined to believe he had much of a point worthy to note in the first place.
Sure, the anime butchered and is worth mention here, but I have no love of the source material either in this case. -
While none of the OVAs were anywhere close to faithful to the source material, and completely disregarded the theme of the original, they were good anime to watch in its own right. It's like what a lot of the fans call it, an official doujin anime. So no, they would not be worthy nominations in my eyes. There are far worse out there, where they butcher the original and maintain to be complete waste.
This is going to come down to a matter of opinion, but I think when you sacrifice the theme of the original source, you're making a bad adaptation. Not a bad anime, just a bad adaptation.
Missed the point? Perhaps.
But the original author was already a quoted sadist, who expressed mundane, self-fulfilling sadism for why he draws the stories he does. I'm not so inclined to believe he had much of a point worthy to note in the first place.
Sure, the anime butchered and is worth mention here, but I have no love of the source material either in this case.Coming to terms with your inevitable death, deciding how you want to be remembered, and sacrificing yourself for the greater good seemed to be the major theme of it all.
When you have 11 kids sacrifice their lives to save their home (because they were told its the only way), and then have the last kid survive with the simple solution of destroying a robot, its far more disgusting than everyone doing their share.
What the anime director thought he was doing was saving that girl, but while that may be true, he essentially said those other 11 kids' deaths (and the 11 worlds they destroyed) were essentially worthless and unnecessary.
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But the original author was already a quoted sadist, who expressed mundane, self-fulfilling sadism for why he draws the stories he does. I'm not so inclined to believe he had much of a point worthy to note in the first place.
Are you telling me that having a transsexual character get assaulted by yakuza who discover she has a penis and don't want to rape her anymore so they actually call in a guy named THE GAY to assault her while she dies thinking only of the guy she loves and her devotion to protecting him instead of her own self-defense before getting murdered with a lethal injection and getting her head cut off and planted on a doll she made and all for effectively no reason whatsoever at all was the work of a sadist?
I actually
Should have known because this is non-sarcastic news to me.
It was either that or he had the worst childhood trauma ever
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No one mentioned D. Gray Man and its weird ending and fillers?
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@The:
Are you telling me that having a transsexual character get assaulted by yakuza who discover she has a penis and don't want to rape her anymore so they actually call in a guy named THE GAY to assault her while she dies thinking only of the guy she loves and her devotion to protecting him instead of her own self-defense before getting murdered with a lethal injection and getting her head cut off and planted on a doll she made and all for effectively no reason whatsoever at all was the work of a sadist?
I actually
Should have known because this is non-sarcastic news to me.
It was either that or he had the worst childhood trauma ever
Haha, Bokurano is pretty timid compared to Naru Taru.
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One Piece. By far this is one of the biggest differences in animation, pacing and overall quality when I compare it to the manga.
What they should've done is split OP into arcs in the manga and just animate each one of them, put this shit on TV for about 6 months and then make people wait 6 months for another arc. They don't have any time limit and they can keep up with the manga, we get quality animation (and not stills. I want to see Zoro attack in the anime like he did with Hachi in Episode of Nami, and not the stills shit and some screams) and everything's well.
I guess Toei is the Kubo Tite of animation in Japan, these guys will throw any shit just to get money.
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Seasons would make the One Piece anime great, but like many others have stated, One Piece isn't that bad of an adaptation.
No general themes were changed, and important points of the series are emphasized as they should be. It could be much much worse.
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Yea, like…. I dunno, Violinist of Hamelin? The TV series was a crapsack world that was just so depressing and emo.
Haven't read the manga yet, but if the movie is any indication, it should be more of a... lighthearted comedy. -
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One Piece. By far this is one of the biggest differences in animation, pacing and overall quality when I compare it to the manga.
What they should've done is split OP into arcs in the manga and just animate each one of them, put this shit on TV for about 6 months and then make people wait 6 months for another arc. They don't have any time limit and they can keep up with the manga, we get quality animation (and not stills. I want to see Zoro attack in the anime like he did with Hachi in Episode of Nami, and not the stills shit and some screams) and everything's well.
I guess Toei is the Kubo Tite of animation in Japan, these guys will throw any shit just to get money.
The reason they don't do seasons is because they would lose their time slot on FujiTV.
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I can forgive an original ending if the anime catch up the manga, skipping some unimportant event to fit the story in a limited number of episode or adding filler from time to time.
But there are some anime that change the story and dialogues right from the beginning.
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My biggest issue with the One Piece anime is that the animators are so not faithful to the manga in terms of art and even plot. They love to reverse the freaking angles or add unnecessary shit.
For instance, I hated when they added Perona in the panel when Zoro begs Mihawk to train him. Perona has nothing really substantial in Zoro's story.
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Yea, like…. I dunno, Violinist of Hamelin? The TV series was a crapsack world that was just so depressing and emo.
Haven't read the manga yet, but if the movie is any indication, it should be more of a... lighthearted comedy.I remember that the studio didn't even bother to animate some scenes and just slapped dialogue on poorly drawn slide shows.
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hellsing the tv anime, such bullshit
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No one mentioned D. Gray Man and its weird ending and fillers?
D.Gray Man itself got really weird. The art style and story idea was cool at first, but neither the manga or anime makes sense after a while, even after multiple viewings.
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Who here thinks that SHAFT should've animated One Piece?