Everyone was waiting for it.
Franky is the 4th in the crew by strength, we've seen the monster trio, time to see Frankun kick some ass.
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One Piece 692 : The killer from Dressrosa
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Go Franky Go! Furthermore if Oda was unwilling to kill of Pell what makes anyone here think that the people affected by Shinokuni will die?
pell is a named char. shinokuni victims are fodder/nameless char. furthermore this is the new world and not paradise.
btw, does oda ever kill any char in current time? not in flashback and ace-WB is excepted. AFAIK no named char is ever killed by oda, how about fodders?
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@Uncanny:
cmon man, the supposed-to-be weapon of mass destruction CANNOT kill somebody? Cause if there will be a cure for Kinemon, then for sure they will cure all those affected too.
If what we get out of this involves more character development for Chopper, then that's a win in my book!
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I'm surprised you were expecting that they weren't gonna be saved. Why can't us readers just accept the fact that 9.9 times out of 10 no one in One Piece will die?
we'll have to accept it weather we like it or not, but for a place such as the new world said to be full of danger and disaster, for death not to occur takes part of the excitement out of reading. (atleast for me)… i accepted ppl not dying before ace and whitebeard and their death was suppose to be a huge thing but with upcoming arcs if 9.9/10 ppl dont die, every heart-wrenching moment that should mean something will get overturned as, "we know they are gonna survive so why care" or something of the like. with a few deaths it opens up the possibility of us not knowing at all what will happen when tragedy befalls, henceforth bringing but a higher level of excitement for me.
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pell is a named char. shinokuni victims are fodder/nameless char. furthermore this is the new world and not paradise.
btw, does oda ever kill any char in current time? not in flashback and ace-WB is excepted. AFAIK no named char is ever killed by oda, how about fodders?
At the slave sale at Shabondy a pirate bit his tongue or something. He is probably dead.
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My prediction is, that Baby 5 and Buffalo will kidnap Franky and CC. It would be far to easy if Franky could take down 2 strong Fighters, of one of the biggest Pirate-"Captains" in the new world. One of them, maybe yes. But two would be to much for him. If they kidnap them, or just CC and Franky got no chance against them (because of Buffalos Wind Power maybe), then we have a free way to a Dressrosa arc, because Law needs CC for his plan to combat a yonkou.
Nice chapter.
Who could be "Jack". Jacky Framm?
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@The:
Okay people, let's get this straight. Oda will not kill any of his characters, fodders included. so please just stop.
Oda better then not to show how they "died" and then ''revive'' them couple of chapters later.
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Oda will kill name characters and fodder when he feel like but i not certain if this going to be one of those times .
He once said he likes to end his arcs with a parties having to much death woould not go with that . -
At the slave sale at Shabondy a pirate bit his tongue or something. He is probably dead.
that guy survived. he is seen when franky give the slaves the keys.
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Cmon now, you know that is an exception. Include Whitebeard and flashback characters too. Ugh this is like 2010 again, and I am pretty sure this kind of complaints will not stop. Oda even said in an interview, “If a close friend or enemy died I probably couldn’t draw a fun party scene.” This is One Piece, get used to it.
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I really want to look deeper into the conversation between the shadow brokers, but unfortunately Mangapanda's translations render that impossible as I have no idea if they even use the right tension this time…
Franky and the Dressrosa killers werer expected, but it is nice to see that Dofla is actively pushing for CC. Additionally it is a great notion to include problems Luffy's behaviour cause for Law. This alliance is frickle...
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maybe it's just like in FF IX, chopper at present only able to make an antidote for one person
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@-Pk-:
My prediction is, that Baby 5 and Buffalo will kidnap Franky and CC. It would be far to easy if Franky could take down 2 strong Fighters, of one of the biggest Pirate-"Captains" in the new world. One of them, maybe yes. But two would be to much for him. If they kidnap them, or just CC and Franky got no chance against them (because of Buffalos Wind Power maybe), then we have a free way to a Dressrosa arc, because Law needs CC for his plan to combat a yonkou.
Nice chapter.
Who could be "Jack". Jacky Framm?
Just my opinion.If such a thing happened Franky would have lost all respect among many readers. Franky's a man's man. It would undermine his character for him to be kidnapped.
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I just feel like it undermines CC in a big way, he's meant to be this genius/deranged scientist who also happens to be a gas logia. Yet his big experiment he's been working on for years is curable? Hardly a weapon of mass destruction. I suppose it will probably be used to hype Chopper
Chopper's dream is to be able to cure anything, so I guess yes this thing is going to raise his level as a doctor.
What I think is this:
Kinemom: He isn't cured by chopper, but due to his DF abilities. Before he got petrified by the gas he used his DF and will thus be alive and Chopper will not exactly "cure" him.
Luffy: I think a part of Luffy's hand was petrified by the gas? Or am I wrong? I'm guessing Chopper comes up with something for a part of the body but not the whole body itself. So he won't be able to save all those who have already been petrified but he can help those who are affected by the gas partially. -
It's apparent that "not killing off fodder" will be for this week what "sexism and poor female roles" were for the last couple of weeks.
Why do you think the latter wil be a non-issue?
Clearly weapons are symbolism of male genitalia, and her willingness to spread her… nvm.Baby 5 is hot as the fires of hell. Just saying.
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that guy survived. he is seen when franky give the slaves the keys.
Okay. Didn't some unnamed marines die at Ennies Lobby?
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I guess Franky will be able to stop them from getting CC, then Law will appear.
Also, we can't really speculate things as names over Mangapanda's translation, so let's just wait a better translation for it.
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I think I will enjoy this chapter once I actually understand all the dialogue in a better translation. Not sure if I get what exactly happened with Baby 5 and Doflamingo.
YEAH FRANKY! I have the same thoughts as everyone else. If DD gets CC and he is still able to make SAD, lame. And if the gas is reversible for everyone then that's very disappointing and stupid. I think Kinnemon's ability is what will save him. Maybe he made a protective suit cover him just before the gas hit him so the suit has been coated but he is fine underneath. Hopefully something like that. Otherwise if Chopper is just so good he can save only him because it recently happened that is passable.
So this chapter has potential problems if Oda doesn't handle things well but just from what is here it was pretty good.
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The only time fodder have been killed so far that I remember is that one Buggy killed when he was introduced, the bounty hunters Zoro killed, and many in the War.
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Horrible translation aside this chapter makes me sad I never voiced my idea from a week or two ago that maybe Franky's absence was because he was checking out a SAD tanker… Wonder if the fact he was leads somewhere. Like a fuller explanation of SAD and Smiles maybe or finding some flaw in them. Maybe if they can exploit a flaw in Smiles, Law can use that to work around potentially losing CC.
Anyone able to figure out the 2nd silhouette in the "Lucci"-like broker's panel? Curious if that theory is debunked (assuming the character isn't a new recruit to the rogue CP9 crew). The Lucci-like broker looks so damn similar to him.
Baby 5's quirk has some potential with several SHs. Brook asking to see her panties, Sanji asking just about anything in-character for him, Luffy seeing her weapons power and asking to join the crew (she ultimately won't, but it'd make a great gag)...
Curious about the full extent of Buffalo's rotating DF. I'm suspecting more to it than flying and making huge gusts of wind. It seems just vague enough to have something weird yet powerful to it (even aside from wind).
"Jack" I'm guessing is either Kaidou or Franky's dad... or hell maybe both. Unless of course it's Jack Sparrow :ninja:
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Okay. Didn't some unnamed marines die at Ennies Lobby?
im not sure. i think the best that oda willing to show us is chars with uncertain fate like that. he didnt really show them dead but we cant 100% sure that they survived as well. sabo survived tho :ninja:
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Baby 5 and Buffalo have very cool designs and quirks, they were the highlight of the chapter for me.
I hope Franky can stall them long enough for Law and Luffy to arrive and capture CC, would be kind of annoying if after all this CC escapes back to Dressrosa.
I like the name of Luffy's new attack 'Grizzly Magnum', it's a lot cooler than just 'Elephant Bazooka' would have been.
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Mirror match between Baby 5 and Franky, jejj
Baby gun - Franky gun
Baby Bazooka - Franky Bazooka
Baby Rocketlauncher - Franky Rocketlauncher
Franky Laser; and than Law comes out to asks her, to merry himI would like Kinemon sealed for a while with Chopper trieing to find a cure.
That would make Momo the new captain boy of the SHs.
Training with Zorro and Chopper teaching him his DF will be hilarious. -
I think Franky is alive but unable to move.
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bellamy got killed by doflamingo , but he is a bastard why should anyone care about that idiot , also i think Oars junior got killed in marineford since he wasnt seen during ace and whitebeard funeral. some fodders in impel down were killed and thrown into fire in level 4 by luffy.
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Man, there should be some kind of music playing when General Franky appears. lol
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LOL Why is everyone so set on the idea of Franky only stalling for time? This is why I am excited with the end of this chapter. Franky needs to show that he is capable of subduing high tier villains. I'm not expecting Franky to stall for anything. I'm expecting Franky to kick some ass!
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I loved the chapter.
The story moved on, we got to see DF-s goons, and we are ready to move to the next arc.
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Part of me wants Baby 5 spared, another part wants to see her and Guru Guru guy get one shotted by Franky ala Bellamy. Such Conflict…
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Chopper making a cure however is ok. Basically, it sends the message that "if Chopper wasn't there, the children would have died" and "if Chopper wasn't there, shinokuni would be uncurable"
Shinokuni is mostly uncurable like Caesar said, unless you are a truly exceptional doctor, aka, Chopper.
Honestly, I don't even think Law could find a cure for shinokuni, even if he tried.Chopper finding a cure would simply make Chopper the one exception to the "no cure shinokuni", and that would be ok and match how good of a doctor Chopper really is wouldn't it? directed at the people mad that Chopper will make a cure
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This chapter. Ooh this chapter.
It's difficult to concentrate on any other things happening when we get the mysterious shadow brokers plus finally the two long awaited members of Doflamingo's arrive. As always it's necessary to wait for a proper translation- C3 I'm already thanking you, bro- before being able to completely judge the chapter but so far it looks really fucking amazing. -
The only time fodder have been killed so far that I remember is that one Buggy killed when he was introduced, the bounty hunters Zoro killed, and many in the War.
i think that's way too early in the series and oda hadnt really have a set 'style' yet. so it is very possible to have inconsistencies during that time. the chars from the war are not clearly shown dead but we cant really say that they survived as well. uncertain fate =/= dead.
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I really hope Kinemon survives this! I want to hear more about the Samurai island. Somehow this sounds very self-aware of Oda to make a 'Japan' Island in One Piece, haha.
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Anyone able to figure out the 2nd silhouette in the "Lucci"-like broker's panel? Curious if that theory is debunked (assuming the character isn't a new recruit to the rogue CP9 crew). The Lucci-like broker looks so damn similar to him.
And so starts the "that guy is Bleuno! He just has a new look to him!" theories
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Why is Franky on Doflamingo's tanker and not Sunny???
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After the part of saving Monets and Vergos butt, on the last page, its not clearly obviously if they want to save them or not, huh? He telled B 5 and Buffalo to come back, immediately. I think Monet and Vergo are done for. So the Don gives a shit about his most important Fighter.
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Too lazy to read the previous posts but did anyoncnotice that luffy's hands shinokuni'd and I love Usopp's newkabuto.
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No speculation regarding "Jack" and "the league" already?
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. - _Sun Tzu, The Art Of War
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Sweet as fucking awesome chapterrrrrr
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Luffy's face when called out for 'not going along with the plan' - priceless.
Also a big fan of Oda holding back on the crew's new techniques - especially the idea that Mansopp's now such a beast, that the beatdown of fodder should only ever occur off-screen.
Having said that - I agree - and hope that Oda uses the next chapter to highlight some of the SH's growth with Franky - and let him not only stall, but BEAT some of Doflamingo's underlings. The kicker would be them fleeing back to Dressrosa with what they thought was SAD…only to find that Franky had emptied/destroyed the supply earlier on.
And going against the grain - I'd be happy to see Chopper cure all of Smiley's victims... but it really needs to be 'built-up' as more of an achievement. I think Chopper's medical abilities have long been maligned. It'd be interesting if CC and/or these underground figures made a comment on Chopper's value as an asset (fanboy)
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Loved this chapter.
Franky will finally get some screen-time.
So, it looks like a lot of peole are making a move.
I am also guessing that Kidd's alliance will be merged with Luffy and Law's later on.
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No speculation regarding "Jack" and "the league" already?
I think "The league" is a mistranslation of alliance, Aohige said in the spoilers thread that the Lucci looking guy mentioned the alliance so that's probably it.
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FRRRRRRRAAANNNNNKKKKKYYYY
That is all.
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The chapter was really good.Lots of new information.Franky better do something cool. He really needs it.
And the "reviving" will probably come next chapter. So better whine then and now look on the positive side. -
And so starts the "that guy is Bleuno! He just has a new look to him!" theories start
Those would be some pretty silly theories.
By the way, I know this is gonna be a bit off topic to ask, and I know you don't run the place or anything so it might be silly to ask, but do you know anything on what has happened to the onemanga.com forums? -
No speculation regarding "Jack" and "the league" already?
People already have started speculating in the earlier post. Some have said that Jack could possibly be Kaido
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Those would be some pretty silly theories.
By the way, I know this is gonna be a bit off topic to ask, and I know you don't run the place or anything so it might be silly to ask, but do you know anything on what has happened to the onemanga.com forums?I've been wondering the same thing. Don't know what happened over there
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i think that's way too early in the series and oda hadnt really have a set 'style' yet. so it is very possible to have inconsistencies during that time. the chars from the war are not clearly shown dead but we cant really say that they survived as well. uncertain fate =/= dead.
Actually the first fodder death happens in the first chapter already, but after that pretty much no one dies anymore.. and after any scene similar to Beckman shooting that guy in the head, we'll see another panel with his beat-up K.O. face that basically says "he's fucked up bad but alive!"
@Ra:
I really hope Kinemon survives this! I want to hear more about the Samurai island. Somehow this sounds very self-aware of Oda to make a 'Japan' Island in One Piece, haha.
Sure he will
no way he gets a comical death like this, it's pretty obvious Chopper will find a cure.Why is Franky on Doflamingo's tanker and not Sunny???
No idea.. But I'm sure we'll get another tiny flashback like the one with Kinemon speaking to a child about Momo in this chapter.
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i wonder if general franky can move covered with shinokuni. If he cant it will hilarious to see next chapter Franky asking baby 5 to help him out and she releases him xD
