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    • pariston_hill
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      ! Time to punch that racist green dorito

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        In theory they can just… Bubble the cluster?

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          @maxterdexter:

          In theory they can just… Bubble the cluster?

          Being able to Bubble things a few inches across, even hundreds of them, doesn't mean that they can do it to something a million times or more the size of a single shard.

          Complicating things since 2009.

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            Alls I know is that my eyes lit up when Steven suggested that the only way to solve this was with Giant Robots ™. Thats mah boy!

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              !

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                NOOOOO! GIANT ROBOTS SHOULDN'T FIGHT!

                This was a great episode. So many good jokes and fun character moments

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                  All I wanna do
                  Is see you making two
                  Giant Robots

                  Giant Robots!

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                    A little weird, after seeing most "character drama" solved through sadder and slower episodes, and then there's ROBOFIGHT!

                    …It's everything I've ever wished. I hope the show continues being a little more upbeat like this episode.
                    I'm enjoying seeing the interactions between Peridot and the Crystal Gems, it brings out the best in all of them. Especially Steven, I love seeing him together with someone (presumably) around his own maturity. The Crystal Gems are more guardians and mentors, and Connie is a lot more mature than Steven. The fact that Steven finally has someone who isn't... "above" him is refreshing.

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                      So has the situation for Pearls deteriorated back home over the past few millennia or did the other Crystal Gems just keep Pearl from finding out how bad things really were for her kind?

                      Complicating things since 2009.

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                        So has the situation for Pearls deteriorated back home over the past few millennia or did the other Crystal Gems just keep Pearl from finding out how bad things really were for her kind?

                        i assume she used to be like the other pearls until she met Rose, who inspired her and pushed her to be something more

                        pearl seemed to know that peridot was telling the truth

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                        • Robby
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                          I assume Rose took a typical Pearl and made her feel special, and strive to do better.

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                            i assume she used to be like the other pearls until she met Rose, who inspired her and pushed her to be something more

                            pearl seemed to know that peridot was telling the truth

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                            I assume Rose took a typical Pearl and made her feel special, and strive to do better.

                            Her wanting to go back to homeworld so much seems odd in light of that then; on the other hand, that might have been why she wanted Steven to go with her. Otherwise she probably would have just been enslaved the minute she got back.

                            That or she was just assuming things had gotten better in the meantime.

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                              Her wanting to go back to homeworld so much seems odd in light of that then; on the other hand, that might have been why she wanted Steven to go with her. Otherwise she probably would have just been enslaved the minute she got back.

                              That or she was just assuming things had gotten better in the meantime.

                              Well, Friend Ship showed us that Pearl still felt in need of purpose as a servant. She may defy her role, but it's a part of her that she's had trouble mentally escaping.

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                                ! Go team Peridot!

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                                  It's important that Pearls are made to order. So there's not a huge factory just churning out the same Pearl over and over again. Each Pearl is unique to the person they were made for. To me this really changes how I look at Rose and Pearls relationship. How much of Pearl's loyalty is because she's a Pearl and how did Rose feel about that? Questions like that. Also Pearls seem like the only gems that are made for a specific function. None of the other gems seem to be compelled to act or behave a certain way except maybe Diamonds who I presume are all leaders.

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                                    Peridots are probably made just to be technicians and probably aren't really all far above Pearls in terms of status judging by her "A Peridot with a Pearl? What would they say back home?" comment.

                                    Of course, she's probably a defective Peridot herself and was packed off to Earth for that reason.

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                                        This episode had an adorable art style. The way Pearl was drawn made me want to make hundreds of avatars and signatures and whatnot.

                                        Also Steven's "Giant robots shouldn't fight" made my heart broke as a long time Transformers fan.

                                        I wonder why Garnet didn't eat that one piece of popcorn~

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                                          I wonder why Garnet didn't eat that one piece of popcorn~

                                          Future vision; it probably was all hull and get stuck in her teeth.

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                                            @Ubiq:

                                            Her wanting to go back to homeworld so much seems odd in light of that then; on the other hand, that might have been why she wanted Steven to go with her. Otherwise she probably would have just been enslaved the minute she got back.

                                            That or she was just assuming things had gotten better in the meantime.

                                            Did she ever specifically say back to homeworld? I think she just wanted to show Steven the wonders of space and other worlds, not necessarily other Gem-controlled worlds.

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                                              newest episode is out!

                                              ! Wow! Peridot hit a very very raw nerve on Amethyst.

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                                                ! Some nice Gem background we got. Ruby and Sapphire are probably of a similar gem-class to Peridot. Amethyst should have been as big as Rose. Rose was a soldier class gem. I always assumed because of her gown and her shield that she just sort of took up the charge to fight but it wasn't something that came naturally. Seeing as she's the same class as Jasper though Rose was probably fighting on other world for Homeworld before she got to Earth and decided not to let them take it.
                                                ! also Peridot improves a little more each episode. I like that they're taking their time with her development. It's not just good for her character but it also keeps giving us nice insight into how Homeworld feels about certain things.

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                                                  @Taggerung:

                                                  ! Some nice Gem background we got. Ruby and Sapphire are probably of a similar gem-class to Peridot. Amethyst should have been as big as Rose. Rose was a soldier class gem. I always assumed because of her gown and her shield that she just sort of took up the charge to fight but it wasn't something that came naturally. Seeing as she's the same class as Jasper though Rose was probably fighting on other world for Homeworld before she got to Earth and decided not to let them take it.
                                                  ! also Peridot improves a little more each episode. I like that they're taking their time with her development. It's not just good for her character but it also keeps giving us nice insight into how Homeworld feels about certain things.

                                                  ! well considering Rose was most likely Pink Diamond, it wouldn't be to far out of the realm of possibility that Rose was a born fighter. The info Peri has given us has been very insightful as well as her redemption seems to be going smoothly has made these past episodes very entertaining

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                                                    ! Why do I love Peridot more and more with each passing episode? Maybe because she's an annoying little thing but really she's just afraid and tries to manage in that unfamiliar and strange world we call Earth with all those strange gems that don't even function how they "meant" to do.
                                                    ! What's with Garnet and cows?űIt has just occured to me. Everyone so far (I mean the gems) have names corresponding to their gems. So, every pearl on Homeworld is called Pearl? Or can they have different names for the sake of convinience?

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                                                      I think they don't have named in particular, but are rather called by their designated gem. This would also explain why Peridot (when initially meeting Steven) considered "Steven" as a "specie" itself rather than a name.

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                                                        All these Peridot episodes are killing me because Peridot is so adorable I can't stand it. I love how she's slowly learning away from the homeworld prejudices.

                                                        But the bad news is, apparently there won't be any more episodes this year. Just when I was getting used to this show running weekly again. ;_;

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                                                          Running out of ways to say Clods!

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                                                            I really loved the art and storyboarding for this episode. As always, Peridot's adorbs. Garnet stole the show for me with her cow issues though.

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                                                              Adorable from start to finish. I love how Steven cared for both of them.

                                                              One thing that's bugged me for a while is whether or not gems have a "default" form. Peridot mentions that Amethyst is a defective, simply because she was so small. But we've seen Amethyst shape shift into bigger forms - Purple Puma, and to a lesser extent Pearl. It's pretty clear she can take forms just as big as Jasper.
                                                              There's also the fact that Pearl still hasn't shape-shifted, and how the gems very rarely use it in battle, despite how it could be a great tactic (Peridot flies away? Amethyst falls down on a rock? Just transform into an eagle!). There's a lot more we'll learn about that, I think.

                                                              I also wonder if the fusion gems we've seen exist as single gems, so there's natural Garnets, Opals, etc.

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                                                              I will say, rewatching season 1, part of me misses the more lighthearted episodes. How long has it been since we've seen them fight against a regular corrupt gem?

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                                                                That was a cute new episode Peridot is slowly becoming a member of the group

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                                                                  I kind of get peridot's point about garnet, fusions are either sex or a weapon for her, I wouldn't feel confortable with a couple doing it, or someone going around with a weapon exposed like that. We know that garnet is something else, but if you boil it down to sex/weapon it IS awkward.

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                                                                    I think you miss the whole idea on what fusion is and what it means for a gem.

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                                                                      What it means for the ones doing it. Does it means the same for those outside it?

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                                                                        Sex and love are two different things. When you boil it down like that you miss that it's just their love that Peridot can't even begin to understand. I doubt she has even come close to figuring that out though.

                                                                        I think like she said they make her uncomfortable because to her they're just a constant weapon. I don't think she understands whats actually going on. So for her it's like being around someone who constantly has guns in both hands and is waving them around.

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                                                                          @Zar:

                                                                          It's pretty clear she can take forms just as big as Jasper.

                                                                          The Purple Puma form should probably be her default rather than requiring her to transform.

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                                                                            Given the dancing involved before fusions, and how Pearl treated it both when fusing with Rose in front of Greg, (and Pearl flaunting that he couldn't do it) and the how Pearl and Garnet were for a while after her trick fusion shenanigans,and how it was with Connie and Steven… it's actually pretty clear that fusions are, if not a direct parallel for sex, then something close to it.

                                                                            Yes, it's not exactly intercourse, but its still incredibly intimate. and the emotions (And betrayals) involved are much the same. Tricking someone into a fusion is treated as a terrible disrespectful betrayal of an act.

                                                                            Garnet's permanent fusion is a bit different since, obviously, they're not having sex 24/7, but the briefer fusions are treated as a quick thrill, as something you want to keep doing and not give up that gives you a complete rush that you want more and more of.

                                                                            The other closest comparison would be drugs, but its not that either.

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                                                                              Robby just opened my eyes. As a Star Trek fan, no wonder I love her. Peridot is a female catlike Spock/Data/Odo. Full of adorable snark on a quest to understand human feelings.

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                                                                                Peridot seems to treat Garnet like a dude open carrying an RPG. "Why are you constantly in battle mode when we're building stuff from the Greg's junk pile?"

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                                                                                  @Robby:

                                                                                  Given the dancing involved before fusions, and how Pearl treated it both when fusing with Rose in front of Greg, (and Pearl flaunting that he couldn't do it) and the how Pearl and Garnet were for a while after her trick fusion shenanigans,and how it was with Connie and Steven… it's actually pretty clear that fusions are, if not a direct parallel for sex, then something close to it.

                                                                                  Yes, it's not exactly intercourse, but its still incredibly intimate. and the emotions (And betrayals) involved are much the same. Tricking someone into a fusion is treated as a terrible disrespectful betrayal of an act.

                                                                                  Garnet's permanent fusion is a bit different since, obviously, they're not having sex 24/7, but the briefer fusions are treated as a quick thrill, as something you want to keep doing and not give up that gives you a complete rush that you want more and more of.

                                                                                  The other closest comparison would be drugs, but its not that either.

                                                                                  I think Sex is the appropriate thing to look at them as. Long term fusions are seen as relationships, while quick fusions seem more like flings. Its a muddy comparison, but an accurate one. But that's Gems in the nutshell. They don't do age, but they mature and obviously "age" in the sense of time. They don't have bodies, but they have bodies. They have no genders, but they're kind of all female.

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                                                                                    Jasper seemed to view fusion in the same way as Peridot did though; a purely tactical move to increase strength for fighting. It's possible that the Earth Gems are just sexual deviants by Gem standards.

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                                                                                      Jasper seemed to view fusion in the same way as Peridot did though; a purely tactical move to increase strength for fighting. It's possible that the Earth Gems are just sexual deviants by Gem standards.

                                                                                      EArth is a gem nudist colony essentially.

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                                                                                        i really don't think it's sex but as relationships. I definitely dont see anything sexual about malachite but I can definitely see it as an abusive relationship no doubt. I think pearl just kind of .. makes it look sexual because of who she is

                                                                                        when Rose and Greg 'fused' they were just dancing, and Stevonnie would be kinda gross…

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                                                                                        i had been thinking the other day what relationships the fusions could represent

                                                                                        garnet: the couple that is inseparable
                                                                                        Stevonnie: friendship
                                                                                        malachite: abusive
                                                                                        Opal: collaborative
                                                                                        sugalite: couple that are bad influences on each other
                                                                                        sardonyx: ??? dont know enough yet!!

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                                                                                          Yeah, I'm with Tab. Especially if Steven ever fuses with any of the other gems. Also, I don't think the SU team would want to exclude asexual folks and other strong nonsexual relationships. The fusions are intimately-charged, but intimacy and sexuality are different things.

                                                                                          The idea of casual fusions is also kinda weird. Netflix and fusion, yo.

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                                                                                            Thinking back, Pearl seems to be the one that really gives off that vibe rather than the rest.

                                                                                            So adjust that to "Pearl is a sexual deviant".

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                                                                                            sardonyx: ??? dont know enough yet!!

                                                                                            Kinda hard not to see that as a gold-digging relationship really; Sardonyx is always happy and carefree because she's getting what she wants. The rich, formal wear and "putting on airs" attitude kind of reinforce that.

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                                                                                              Could also be that fusion is seen differently by everyone who uses it - Garnet thinks it's a sacred thing that should not be defiled or abused, Pearl uses it to help cope with her myriad issues (also to fuck with Greg), Jasper is only concerned with the "MORE POWER" part of it.

                                                                                              Peridot's probably never seen a fusion outside of the context of battle use so she doesn't think that Garnet is constantly fused for a reason other than the intimidation granted by being a filthy war machine.

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                                                                                                Exactly. I mean even between fusions the perspective is different. Pearl fusing with Rose thought it was something really special and intimate. Rose thought it was nice party trick.

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                                                                                                  Keep in mind that Pearls likely never fuse with anybody to begin with; from the way Peridot talks, they sound more like a designer pet such as a Labradoodle than anything else.

                                                                                                  Pearl viewing it as being something completely different from most Gems wouldn't be surprising in light of that.

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                                                                                                    Makes you wonder what Amethyst gets out of it. Opal is clearly a mission-only thing because she and Pearl clash way too much, that's why she's the flattest fusion, but Sugilite is like Amethyst on steroids.

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                                                                                                      Makes you wonder what Amethyst gets out of it. Opal is clearly a mission-only thing because she and Pearl clash way too much, that's why she's the flattest fusion, but Sugilite is like Amethyst on steroids.

                                                                                                      Being from Earth probably gives Amethyst a different view on relationships than the other Crystal Gems. At a guess, her general view is, oddly enough, actually closer to Peridot's in that she sees it mainly as a way to get stronger (and gets a thrill from it) though she understands that Garnet views it differently.

                                                                                                      Plus it might actually make her feel complete since she should be a lot stronger than she actually is.

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                                                                                                        I kind of get peridot's point about garnet, fusions are either sex or a weapon for her, I wouldn't feel confortable with a couple doing it, or someone going around with a weapon exposed like that. We know that garnet is something else, but if you boil it down to sex/weapon it IS awkward.

                                                                                                        It's an allegory for a Homosexual relationship. That's what I get from it anyway.

                                                                                                        A lot of Anti-gay people like to conflate Homosexuality with Sexual promiscuity and Immorality, more specifically, they equate the very notion of "Gay" with "A sexual act" and can't separate them.

                                                                                                        To your typical Anti-Gay bigot, gayness in general is "Perverted" or "Wrong" even if it's just two guys or two girls holding hands and/or giving each other a quick harmless peck on the cheek. To give one example, this is why they fight against Gay scoutmasters. They immediately think of gays as inherently sexual, and therefore assume that any gay scoutmaster is going to spend the entire scout meeting at best, describing gay sexual acts to the kids, at worse, sexually assaulting the kids.

                                                                                                        To Peridot, being Fused (Gay) only has very limited purposes like Fighting (Sex) so it makes her uncomfortable because she conflates Garnet being Fused (Out) all the time with Garnet wanting to Fight (Have Sex) ALL The time.

                                                                                                        What hammered this point home to me was the hand gesture she made when trying to describe what she thought of Garnet.

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