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    • Wagomu
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      ! -Maybe it's just me, but…Sardonyx kinda looks like a racist caricature.

      ! I really don't see it. The pronounced lips thing? Since Garnet has that, too. And so does Amethyst. And Sugilite. And Opal. And Sapphire.

      ! Now, about this whole Pearl fiasco, I enjoy complex characterization and development as much as the next guy, but…I dunno. Something bugs me about this development, and I think it may be because it was kind of arbitrary? Like, I know Pearl has some deep self-worth issues stemming from her being designed to be a low-ranking disposable soldier (presumably) and her entire history with Rose. But this was, of course, an objectively wrong thing for Pearl to do and I'm just not sure why it happened at this time. Is it because of the stress of dealing with the Homeworld Gems or was it just a matter of time before she snapped? In any event, the way it was portrayed just came across as making her look really unstable to me. I don't know, maybe it'll make more sense on a rewatch or once we find out more of the Crystal Gems' past.
      ! Well, she's still my favorite so I'm hoping she'll eventually be able to recover and come to grips with her self-worth.

      ! Well, all of this has been provoked by Steven's existence. All the gems have changed a lot through the course of the series as a consequence of his birth and Rose's death. They've had to adopt different roles and confront plenty of truths and dealing with them has stressed them and caused them to change in both good and bad ways. Amethyst has had to find inner strength and self-confidence to be a better role model for Steven and pull her weight in the team now that she's no longer the runt of the group, Garnet has learned to open up more emotionally to communicate with him and not hurt him as well as deal with the new leadership role she's assumed and Pearl, well Pearl's been affected a lot.
      ! Pearl cared a lot about Rose and has been trying to find herself in Rose's wake. She's filled the void by serving Steven and Garnet. She's had to learn a lot about accepting the losses in her life and not letting them define her. The chain of Pearl's craziness and its development can be sourced back to Ocean Gem, where she first considered Homeworld again and thought of going back, now that Rose isn't tying her to Earth anymore. That's the first instance in which we saw her lose her cool. The next big step was Rose's Scabbard, where she learned that her relationship with Rose wasn't what she thought it was. That episode ends with an uncertain look in Pearl's eyes, her new conflict not fully resolved. I think between those two, her newfound loneliness really hit her. A few more episodes since then both highlighted these issues and forced her to confront them, particularly Sworn to the Sword, where she came into conflict with her remaining devotion to Rose.
      ! Cry For Help is where it came to a head. Pearl, feeling lonelier and weaker than ever reveled in the opportunity to form Sardonyx. When she fused with Garnet the first time, she was allowed to feel a strength that she was really doubting in herself, and that high was so powerful that she risked hurting her friends just to get it again.
      ! In short, Pearl was feeling sad, but Sardonyx made her feel not sad so she went out of her way to form Sardonyx again. The more I think about it, the more I realize how well-crafted of an arc it really was.

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        ! I really don't see it. The pronounced lips thing? Since Garnet has that, too. And so does Amethyst. And Sugilite. And Opal. And Sapphire.

        ! Actually, I think it's more the teeth. And, maybe the nose? Like maybe it's a mishmash of caricatures. But I'm sure it's just me.

        ! Well, all of this has been provoked by Steven's existence. All the gems have changed a lot through the course of the series as a consequence of his birth and Rose's death. They've had to adopt different roles and confront plenty of truths and dealing with them has stressed them and caused them to change in both good and bad ways. Amethyst has had to find inner strength and self-confidence to be a better role model for Steven and pull her weight in the team now that she's no longer the runt of the group, Garnet has learned to open up more emotionally to communicate with him and not hurt him as well as deal with the new leadership role she's assumed and Pearl, well Pearl's been affected a lot.
        ! Pearl cared a lot about Rose and has been trying to find herself in Rose's wake. She's filled the void by serving Steven and Garnet. She's had to learn a lot about accepting the losses in her life and not letting them define her. The chain of Pearl's craziness and its development can be sourced back to Ocean Gem, where she first considered Homeworld again and thought of going back, now that Rose isn't tying her to Earth anymore. That's the first instance in which we saw her lose her cool. The next big step was Rose's Scabbard, where she learned that her relationship with Rose wasn't what she thought it was. That episode ends with an uncertain look in Pearl's eyes, her new conflict not fully resolved. I think between those two, her newfound loneliness really hit her. A few more episodes since then both highlighted these issues and forced her to confront them, particularly Sworn to the Sword, where she came into conflict with her remaining devotion to Rose.
        ! Cry For Help is where it came to a head. Pearl, feeling lonelier and weaker than ever reveled in the opportunity to form Sardonyx. When she fused with Garnet the first time, she was allowed to feel a strength that she was really doubting in herself, and that high was so powerful that she risked hurting her friends just to get it again.
        ! In short, Pearl was feeling sad, but Sardonyx made her feel not sad so she went out of her way to form Sardonyx again. The more I think about it, the more I realize how well-crafted of an arc it really was.

        ! Excellent points. I (somehow) forgot about how the events of Rose's Scabbard affected her. I'll give it all some time to settle and see how it plays out in new episodes and re-watches. Thanks.

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          ! Actually, I think it's more the teeth. And, maybe the nose? Like maybe it's a mishmash of caricatures. But I'm sure it's just me.

          I actually saw a post on tumblr praising her design because people in the African American community tend to be self conscious about those features (i just skimmed the post really)

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            Sardonyx's eyes weird me out. Like the top pair look like they're mounted on the glasses instead of actually on her head.

            I loved how Amethyst and Steven were mostly carrying the Peridot fights. Amethyst in general felt really mature these last few episodes. Good for her!

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              ! I think the crux for me with Pearl this bomb was that we never really got to understand her. There was the bit at the end where she explains how she needed someone to depend on, but everything else about the development were things you had to figure out by deliberately looking deeper into the show. I think they needed to clarify it a little bit during the bomb. Something like "Rose was important to me, I'm lost without her" or "When I'm with you I feel important again, I feel like I'm worth something", "but you need to get over that. You're forcing yourself on other's and it's hurting us. We all have weaknesses, even I do, but I don't let them control me insert Garnet's motivational speech and Pearl talking about being a Pearl". Maybe my English isn't as good as I think, but the whole speech at the end just feels confused. And as Tagger mentioned, we didn't even get to see Garnet's face during their confrontation which was a let down. It never felt like the two really connected.
              ! It still felt a lot better now that I rewatched it during the day, which is good. It's bothering me how much it's bothering me.
              ! But eh. It's five episodes come and gone, and they had enough great points to make up for that. It'll probably make more sense once we got Pearl's full backstory. And Amethyst, Steven and Peridot were way better than I expected, so there's that, and Is till love Garnet and Pearl. Loving the theories cropping up that Peridot is actually a very young gem.

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                ! I think the crux for me with Pearl this bomb was that we never really got to understand her. There was the bit at the end where she explains how she needed someone to depend on, but everything else about the development were things you had to figure out by deliberately looking deeper into the show. I think they needed to clarify it a little bit during the bomb. Something like "Rose was important to me, I'm lost without her" or "When I'm with you I feel important again, I feel like I'm worth something", "but you need to get over that. You're forcing yourself on other's and it's hurting us. We all have weaknesses, even I do, but I don't let them control me insert Garnet's motivational speech and Pearl talking about being a Pearl". Maybe my English isn't as good as I think, but the whole speech at the end just feels confused. And as Tagger mentioned, we didn't even get to see Garnet's face during their confrontation which was a let down. It never felt like the two really connected.
                ! It still felt a lot better now that I rewatched it during the day, which is good. It's bothering me how much it's bothering me.
                ! But eh. It's five episodes come and gone, and they had enough great points to make up for that. It'll probably make more sense once we got Pearl's full backstory. And Amethyst, Steven and Peridot were way better than I expected, so there's that, and Is till love Garnet and Pearl. Loving the theories cropping up that Peridot is actually a very young gem.

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                  @Wagomu:

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                    !

                    I know, I know XD I'll stop whining.

                    Anyway, that should be the last rant from me regarding SU. At least I got my thoughts sorted out, which helped.
                    Still an amazing series.

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                      Also, I rewatched the SU pilot (or maybe watched for the first time, since I really don't remember any of it)

                      1. So glad they redesigned the gems, especially Pearl

                      2. So Steven's extended version of the opening theme has been around since the start. Cool.

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                      I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                        @Zar:

                        I know, I know XD I'll stop whining.

                        Anyway, that should be the last rant from me regarding SU. At least I got my thoughts sorted out, which helped.
                        Still an amazing series.

                        Nah, whining is basically the purpose of these discussion threads, haha. It's not an unfair point, the show can be pretty subtle at times, especially for the demographic it's supposed to be targeting, but I think that's to the show's credit. I wouldn't be thinking of this, though, if you didn't bring it up, which is the point of arguing, so keep at it, dude.

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                          Ok, been REALLY wanting to talk about this show for a while now with folks, and this thread seems like the only place I have to do so.

                          Spoilering this due to potential spoilers and length.

                          ! This show is an emotional rollercoaster and it's not afraid to punch you in the gut and give no apologies. I remember there was a somewhat heavyish episode in the newest Bomb that ended on a bit of a down note and Steven was watching Crying Breakfast Friends and he remarked "I wish real life always had happy endings like Cartoons" and that was just how the episode itself ended….. Somber as all hell.
                          ! I really REALLY liked the Garnet splitting up episode. One thing I was curious about with regards to fusion and the way they were treating her fusion like a relationship had me confused since fusions TYPICALLY present as one being. I figured the Jasper-Lapis pairing was special because it was Lapis dragging Jasper down, clearly it wasn't a truly harmonious fusion, not the "relationship" Garnet is presented as.
                          I'm really glad Ruby and Saphire are capable of still having individual thought and opinions while inside the "Relationship" that is Garnet. Makes Garnet feel like a flawed individual, which is great. Perfect characters are a drag lol.
                          ! Also, Kudos on Rebecca Sugar and Cartoon Network for including Ruby and Sapphire cuddling and kissing when they made up at the end of the episode. I mean, I know the gems don't have biological sex, but they have gender identities, and this show featured two characters who identify and present as women in an obviously loving relationship without issue.
                          ! Speaking of imperfect characters tho, this is the chunk of Episodes where Pearl is on a downward spiral. They seemed to reconcile SOME at the very end there, but clearly the issues aren't entirely gone. It's interesting how complex the issues in this show are allowed to be.
                          ! The two episodes that weren't very plot heavy like the Mayor Dewey play and the Onion episode were great. Even when the show isn't explicitly moving the plot forward, it's great that we get little character moments that still work in the overall plot. Steven's comments about how Mayor Dewey's Ancestor wasn't perfect and made mistakes but was great because he never stopped trying was clearly meant to mirror the situation Pearl was going through, and it gave her some nice character moments too... atop the backdrop of this goofy goofy play (Mop Amethyst ftw)
                          ! Then there's the Onion episode... oh my... the Onion Episode.... my sides hurt.... oh god it was funny... I couldn't stop laughing, ESPECIALLY the ending. we were marathoning it, so we had the next episode queued up, so right after that moment at the end, we immediately heard the "We... Are the Crystal Gems!" start playing.... we had to pause it so we could finish laughing for what felt like a solid 5 minutes.... oh wow that was great...
                          ! Plus, it was great to see Amethyst have a little moment in this bomb, like seeing how Garnet and Pearl at odds obviously affected her negatively. A very nice little touch that makes this series so great.
                          ! One interesting thing too was when Peridot said "This planet has an expiration date, and I don't want to be around to see it" had me interested..... I wonder what she meant?
                          ! Clearly what the Gem Homeworld wants to do to the planet is harmful to the planet based on dialog people have made in the past, so did she just mean that? Like "When homeworld does what they want to do, the planet will go boom, and I don't wana be here when that happens!" or does she know something about the earth of this world that we don't? IS it going to be harmed on its own?

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                            Just got through marathoning this show. Wow, I enjoy it a lot. The show mixes emotional and fun episodes well, but not perfectly. It's jarring sometimes.
                            I've got to stop picking favourite gems, it's annoying. First Pearl, then Lapis when she was introduced, and now Sardonyx. I can't stop changing.
                            I do like how every episode is foreshadowing or hinting at something deep that kids are not going to understand. Gives it a Gravity Falls-like level of mature enjoyment.
                            I feel like they'll introduce another main character before the season ends. There's only so much they can do with these main four; I could see them adding another gem to the mix, like one that's been hiding, or a rebel/deserter from Homeworld. Peridot seems like she could be that soon, but that's just personal preference.
                            Am I the only one who wants more Lars and Sadie this season? Seems like they've been forgotten.

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                              Pretty much the entire fandom wants more Sadie and Lars, so no, it's not just you. Hopefully the next few episodes can focus on Steven hanging with his fellow hoomans a bit; I miss Connie, Sadie and Lars, and also Sour Cream, Buck, and Jenny.

                              And Greg, obviously. This show could always use more Greg Universe. "You can't ignore the Universe."

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                                Peridot is the best, she's such a goof.

                                I'm really interested in seeing what Pearls are like back on the homeworld, from the sounds of it they might just be a low ranking soldier class gem.

                                IMO they might be more like the butlers or personal servants of homeworld and Pearl might be considered slightly freaky for actually fighting.
                                Looking at Pearl's "hobbies", we see that she loves keeping everything tidy, repairing equipment, collecting information and organising it in little holograms to teach it to Steven. Also she's eager as hell to follow commands and to receive approval, especially from Garnet.
                                Maybe every highranking gem who is send to another planet gets a personal Pearl who cleans after their mess and keeps their gear in order so they can focus on actual conquering.
                                I also imagine every time they encounter something new or challenging on a foreign planet, Pearls jump out and give lenghty, verbose holo-expositions while dancing ridiculously. Just like one of my Legend of Zelda companions👅

                                ! If that is indeed the case, it gives a little bit of an explanation for Pearl's obsession with Rose and why she takes her loss so poorly: Pearls might be explicitly made to serve one individual and indulge their every whim and serving Rose might have been literally Pearl's reason for existing. Rose probably didn't enjoy that idea too much and pushed "her Pearl" to overcome her nature and become the protagonist of her own life (unfortunately with questionable results but Pearl's working on it). Still, I really like the message in that. It's similar to Amethyst who made her own decision and opted to protect the place she was created to destroy because she felt it was right.
                                ! And yes, Peridot was hilarious. By now I am trained to giggle uncontrollably just when hearing the first beep of her dorky futuro theme music.😁

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                                Ok, been REALLY wanting to talk about this show for a while now with folks, and this thread seems like the only place I have to do so.

                                Spoilering this due to potential spoilers and length.

                                ! This show is an emotional rollercoaster and it's not afraid to punch you in the gut and give no apologies. I remember there was a somewhat heavyish episode in the newest Bomb that ended on a bit of a down note and Steven was watching Crying Breakfast Friends and he remarked "I wish real life always had happy endings like Cartoons" and that was just how the episode itself ended….. Somber as all hell.
                                ! I really REALLY liked the Garnet splitting up episode. One thing I was curious about with regards to fusion and the way they were treating her fusion like a relationship had me confused since fusions TYPICALLY present as one being. I figured the Jasper-Lapis pairing was special because it was Lapis dragging Jasper down, clearly it wasn't a truly harmonious fusion, not the "relationship" Garnet is presented as.
                                I'm really glad Ruby and Saphire are capable of still having individual thought and opinions while inside the "Relationship" that is Garnet. Makes Garnet feel like a flawed individual, which is great. Perfect characters are a drag lol.
                                ! Also, Kudos on Rebecca Sugar and Cartoon Network for including Ruby and Sapphire cuddling and kissing when they made up at the end of the episode. I mean, I know the gems don't have biological sex, but they have gender identities, and this show featured two characters who identify and present as women in an obviously loving relationship without issue.
                                ! Speaking of imperfect characters tho, this is the chunk of Episodes where Pearl is on a downward spiral. They seemed to reconcile SOME at the very end there, but clearly the issues aren't entirely gone. It's interesting how complex the issues in this show are allowed to be.
                                ! The two episodes that weren't very plot heavy like the Mayor Dewey play and the Onion episode were great. Even when the show isn't explicitly moving the plot forward, it's great that we get little character moments that still work in the overall plot. Steven's comments about how Mayor Dewey's Ancestor wasn't perfect and made mistakes but was great because he never stopped trying was clearly meant to mirror the situation Pearl was going through, and it gave her some nice character moments too... atop the backdrop of this goofy goofy play (Mop Amethyst ftw)
                                ! Then there's the Onion episode... oh my... the Onion Episode.... my sides hurt.... oh god it was funny... I couldn't stop laughing, ESPECIALLY the ending. we were marathoning it, so we had the next episode queued up, so right after that moment at the end, we immediately heard the "We... Are the Crystal Gems!" start playing.... we had to pause it so we could finish laughing for what felt like a solid 5 minutes.... oh wow that was great...
                                ! Plus, it was great to see Amethyst have a little moment in this bomb, like seeing how Garnet and Pearl at odds obviously affected her negatively. A very nice little touch that makes this series so great.
                                ! One interesting thing too was when Peridot said "This planet has an expiration date, and I don't want to be around to see it" had me interested..... I wonder what she meant?
                                ! Clearly what the Gem Homeworld wants to do to the planet is harmful to the planet based on dialog people have made in the past, so did she just mean that? Like "When homeworld does what they want to do, the planet will go boom, and I don't wana be here when that happens!" or does she know something about the earth of this world that we don't? IS it going to be harmed on its own?

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                                Hey welcome in this thread then and nice insight! 🙂
                                Hahaha It's cool to hear you enjoyed the Onion episode so much. For me it was half crying in terror and half because I was laughing I can't pinpoint it to be honest XP
                                I also enjoyed all the little moments with Amethyst even though she wasn't really the focus. But all the little devolopment they gave her on the side was really strong. Mop Amethyst was my fav joke of this bomb 🆒
                                About your last question:
                                I thought that she just means that because of her message Homeworld has planet earth back on their radar and they are going finish blowing earth up for good. But with this show you never know, maybe she actually found some info while snooping around. [/hide]

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                                  IMO they might be more like the butlers or personal servants of homeworld and Pearl might be considered slightly freaky for actually fighting.

                                  This seems more likely. If Pearl was projecting in her song with Connie (and Pearl is

                                  ), lines like "you weren't built for fighting" support your idea.

                                  And now for something completely different…

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                                    @Wagomu:

                                    This seems more likely. If Pearl was projecting in her song with Connie (and Pearl is

                                    ), lines like "you weren't built for fighting" support your idea.

                                    Not to mention that Jasper called Pearl "some lost, defective pearl", so she's definitely unusual in some way. I've also seen speculaton that Pearls could be disposable, possibly mass-produced soldiers. Pearl's "I'm just a pearl" in the most recent episode seems to confirm that pearls are somehow lower class, and used to taking orders from someone. Though I think Pearl's attachment to Rose might also be just because Rose probably was the first person to show compassion towards her. Nevertheless, I can't wait to learn more about how everyone met Rose.

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                                      If Pearl was projecting in her song with Connie (and Pearl is

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                                      A good pun is its own reword, huh?
                                      Also glad to see the fanart is stepping up its game from cute

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                                      Not to mention that Jasper called Pearl "some lost, defective pearl", so she's definitely unusual in some way.

                                      I can't believe how offhand comments actually turn out to have another meaning to them. Like Garnet saying "We kept Amethyst", or Pearl's singing mentioned above or pretty much all of Peridot's technobabble that reveals future plotpoints without us getting it. This show almost makes me feel like a real life Ronaldo. I'm really trying my best not to be a paranoid mess whenever I rewatch an episode.

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                                        Not to mention that Jasper called Pearl "some lost, defective pearl", so she's definitely unusual in some way. I've also seen speculaton that Pearls could be disposable, possibly mass-produced soldiers. Pearl's "I'm just a pearl" in the most recent episode seems to confirm that pearls are somehow lower class, and used to taking orders from someone. Though I think Pearl's attachment to Rose might also be just because Rose probably was the first person to show compassion towards her. Nevertheless, I can't wait to learn more about how everyone met Rose.

                                        well defect also means desertion from the military or country, which i can see since she's so much like a knight

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                                          It would be worded differently if they meant to imply she had defected(which they all did apparently) as opposed to her being defective.

                                          some nice fanart on the topic.

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                                            @Taggerung:

                                            It would be worded differently if they meant to imply she had defected(which they all did apparently) as opposed to her being defective.

                                            some nice fanart on the topic.

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                                            unless it was intentionally worded that way to be ambiguous which I wouldn't put it past these writers

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                                              Yeah, I think the double-entendre there is intentional, though defecting doesn't imply a military background, just a rebellion against some former allegiance.

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                                                It would be worded differently if they meant to imply she had defected(which they all did apparently) as opposed to her being defective.

                                                some nice fanart on the topic.

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                                                Cool find!
                                                And I agree they probably put an insane amount of planning into the homeworld dialogues.

                                                There was this other part in Jasper's line, where she called Amethyst an "overcooked runt".
                                                Now if I go all microscope over this there is one episode, where Amethyst wishes she could have seen the final fight on the Strawberry field 5000 years ago.
                                                So she probably wasn't around yet when that happend.
                                                In another episode though, Pearl says kindergarten was destroyed 6000 years ago. So she should have been around for at least a 1000 years.
                                                What if Jasper recognized the type of gem Amethyst was, but saw that she looked different, like a tiny, snugly version of the soldiers that normally came out of kindergarten? What if that is because Amethyst was actually "overcooked" and was stuck in her hole/injector at kindergarten for a millennium because something went wrong during her "production" and she was just hanging around there until Rose found her by chance after the big battle 5000 years ago?

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                                                  So if there are multiple of the same gems, what happens if they fuse. Could we get mega pearl?

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                                                    I'll just leave this here

                                                    http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=42985&page=5&p=3505457&viewfull=1#post3505457

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                                                      Bad news, everyone.
                                                      It's a shame, but hopefully when they do come back, it's for a while and weekly.

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                                                        Well, at least I guess I can start catching up on the previous Bombs…

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                                                          Aw man 😞 I don't wanna wait longer >:|

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                                                            See, if we didn't have three bombs in a row, we'd still be getting new episodes right now.

                                                            Granted, they'd be the same episodes we've already seen now, but it would make the overall gaps shorter.

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                                                              I'm rewatching earlier episodes. Steven is still the sweetest thing~

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                                                                I'm rewatching them all with my wife, and we're just past the mirror/gem ocean gem "lore-dumps". Its quite cool seeing just how much the showrunners have hinted in advance.

                                                                My wifes reaction to Space Race was "Wow, she really wanted to go to space", lol

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                                                                  I've caught up on this show! Garnet is definitely my wife's and I favorite character. I personally have a love/hate relationship with Steven but he hasn't been too annoying lately.

                                                                  What I really want is a side series where they show all the things that happened in the war for Earth, Lord of the Rings style. The history in the show really intrigues me.

                                                                  Everything's Eventual…

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                                                                    What I really want is a side series where they show all the things that happened in the war for Earth, Lord of the Rings style. The history in the show really intrigues me.

                                                                    We're almost certainly going to get flashbacks of that stuff later. In brief or in full, and over how many episodes, remains to be seen…. but we're getting more info about that all the time. I can't imagine them NOT doing an origin story at this point... but also find it difficult to think they'd cram it into 11 minutes. Bits and pieces as it works in with the character developments.

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                                                                      @Robby:

                                                                      We're almost certainly going to get flashbacks of that stuff later. In brief or in full, and over how many episodes, remains to be seen…. but we're getting more info about that all the time. I can't imagine them NOT doing an origin story at this point... but also find it difficult to think they'd cram it into 11 minutes. Bits and pieces as it works in with the character developments.

                                                                      Yeah, I hope so. They've been doing ok with giving us little snippets of images that have happened during that time and some decent amount of information but I would like a good whole episodes worth and some more episodes after that. I for one wouldn't mind. It's bound to happen of course, but how much (whole episodes?), is anyone's guess.

                                                                      Everything's Eventual…

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                                                                        When we inevetably get more of the background revealed, I hope it will be as smaller scale scenarious such as Story for Steven or We Need to Talk, as opposed to full-fledged Gem History 101. So far one of my favourite things about the show is that it feels quite intimate, and one of the ways it achieves this is by expositing indirectly instead of directly. Seriously, this series has some of the best, most elegant worldbuilding I've ever seen.

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                                                                          I believe I'm very late to the party, but I just watched ep 35, 36 and 37 (Straight to the video, Warp Tour and Alone together) for the first time. Three fucking Wham episodes in one go! Out of nowhere! I never experienced something like this in a western animation before. This is amazing :wub:

                                                                          “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                                                                              ! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/001/033/716.png

                                                                              So I haven't gotten around to actually watching the show but in my surfing I did find a similar thing to this:
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                                                                              I have always been dissatisfied, I know that. But lately I find I reek of discontentment; it fills my throat and floods my brain. Sometimes I fear there's no longer a dream but only the discontentment.

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                                                                                I found this very interesting and true.

                                                                                …except I'm keeping my rose-tinted glasses on for Dexter's Laboratory, Recess, and Scooby-Doo. ❤

                                                                                Everything's Eventual…

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                                                                                  I'd love to see more stuff like that from Nostalgia Critic!

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                                                                                  Please visit my Deviant art gallery.

                                                                                  There will be Punch and Pie!

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                                                                                    Wohooo, I catched up! Aww shit…

                                                                                    After all these episodes I really can't add something new to the discussion/analysis. Just that there is no favourite Gem. In the beginning I liked Pearl the most, then Garnet, then Pearl and Amethyst and then Peridot... So, I guess I love every character in this series, even Onion.

                                                                                    Edit: Aside from this series being Magical Girls in Space, I think I can describe it to other people as very nerd/otaku friendly, because it just feels like home in it.

                                                                                    “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                                                                                      we've got ourselves a leak!

                                                                                      the titles of the next bunch of episodes to air is out (actually, of the whole second season), and there's room for lots and lots of speculation.

                                                                                      Source: www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/steven-universe/episodes/season-2.html

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                                                                                        ! The return of Tiger Millionaire? Hell. Fuckin'. Yeah.
                                                                                        ! I mean, all of those titles sound tantalizing, but Tiger Millionaire making a comeback really makes me happy, since I love that episode.

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                                                                                          ! Bahaha Kiki's Pizza Service Delivery
                                                                                          ! Also can't wait to see Tiger Philanthropist
                                                                                          ! Or really any of Season 2

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                                                                                            I love that were signaling out Tiger Philanthropist as the episode to be hyped about.

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                                                                                              ! Incoming Luffy vs Ussop

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                                                                                                ! I like the Miyazaki reference episode. some of these episodes sound very interesting

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                                                                                                  @Hiroy:

                                                                                                  ! Incoming Luffy vs Ussop

                                                                                                  knowing those two, it's probably gonna be a prank-off ep

                                                                                                  ![](images/smilies/ipb/heart.png "Heart")![](images/smilies/ipb/heart.png "Heart") ![](images/smilies/taboo/tabs.png "Ron Swanson")

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                                                                                                    ! Tiger Philanthropist, the shocking swerve heel-face turn that was thought up by creative about a half hour before the show started.
                                                                                                    ! Half of the episode will be Pearl acting out various Vince McMahon gifs.

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                                                                                                      ! Everyone here is having fun and I couldn't see anything past the word Diamond.

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                                                                                                        There is finally a clear version of the extended opening! ❤ Spoiler tagged just in case, but there's nothing very spoilery about it if you have seen season 1 finale. (there is a silhouette of a future character though)

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                                                                                                        ! I have to add, I really like the small moment where Steven is asleep and Greg and the gems are just silently staring at each other. It tells a lot about their relationship without any words.

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