Yeah. Plus. When we've voiced these things to Mike in the past they were fixed. Remember Professor Zoro, Bitchy Robin, and Robin using the Crew Members' names from the TV Broadcast?
Someone floated that info to Mike and it all got fixed on the DVDs.
Funimation DVD Discussion III (Please Check First Post for FAQ)
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I, for one, has always pronounced it Eh-niece. Doesn't really matter to me how they pronounce it. Though, finding out that the correct pronunciation is "Nintendo Entertainment System" makes me chuckle and kinda wants me to stick to "Eh-nees".
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Spandam was totally playing Super Mario Bros. between rounds of beating Robin just to be a dick.
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Don't act like this is another incident like Thousand Lion Chan's extremely ridiculous overreaction to the Simulcast using "Second Gear" over "Gear Second" or something.
Ohoho, good times.
Remind me what the deal with "Professor Zoro" was?
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Some of Zoro's lines in Season 3's TV broadcast were a bit too "smart" if I recall right, like there were times where FUNimation was writing him as if he was a more eloquent and well-spoken person than he really is.
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Remind me what the deal with "Professor Zoro" was?
Zoro typically doesn't use big words. Not because he's stupid, but he's more straight to the point no-nonsense. On the TV Broadcast, they had Zoro speak VERY Elaborately. Like he'd use lines like "It's a mock, a complete facade" as if he was spending all his off time reading a thesaurus.
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@Badass:
Remind me what the deal with "Professor Zoro" was?
Zoro typically doesn't use big words. Not because he's stupid, but he's more straight to the point no-nonsense. On the TV Broadcast, they had Zoro speak VERY Elaborately. Like he'd use lines like "It's a mock, a complete facade" as if he was spending all his off time reading a thesaurus.
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Spandam was totally playing Super Mario Bros. between rounds of beating Robin just to be a dick.
It's a game of Street Fighter!
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We're seriously having a discussion on how they pronounce "Enies".
This forum.
why do you even come here?i see almost all your posts making fun of someone raising a valid point for what you think is not important.learn to respect others opinions.this is an anime/manga forum.people are so engrossed in something that they care about every detail.that's what being a fan means.well whatever.there's no point in trying to argue with someone like you.
It's not ridiculous, they're mispronouncing a major word that is going to be said QUITE a bit coming up. But even then I'm not saying it ruins these sets or calling for a boycott or anything, just something that's annoying.
It'd be like if they pronounced "Baratie" as "Bah-rah-tee" instead of "Bah-rah-tee-eh" like it's supposed to be. It'd only be there for a while, but it'd grate on you while it's there.
we are customers of a service.we have aright to complain about stuff.deal with it.Don't act like this is another incident like Thousand Lion Chan's extremely ridiculous overreaction to the Simulcast using "Second Gear" over "Gear Second" or something.
i didn't know about that.WHAT THE HELL??
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Ah Neice? A nephew?
This was a ball drop by the dub. 3 syllables no matter how you accent it. 3. ball drop funimation.
Speaking of things that I still hate about the dub. Any time Luffy and Chopper yell I wince. The poor voice actors always hit the exact same mono pitch and tone every single yell. The sound engineer needs to auto pitch these yells up or down and change it up. -
I always used to think Enies Lobby was pronouced "Eee-Nye's"
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While I agree that people should be allowed to voice their complaints on the dub, this whole pronunciation argument for pages and pages is getting a bit ridiculous. Some of you guys have to remember that this is an ENGLISH dub, re-visioned for an English-speaking audience, not a dub that reads dialog directly from subtitles. A few pronunciation changes are to be expected because some sounds don't translate from Japanese to English. Also, some words need to be translated a little differently because they too don't translate from Japanese to English very well, e.i. Robin-Chwan, Nakama (Please, Please don't start that rig-a-marole again).
I think the dub is spectacular, and is one of the best dubs I've ever heard. It stays true to the original, yet deviates a tad to make things sound natural to an English-speaker, just like all dubs should do in my opinion. Sure it's not 100% perfect, but nothing is. We should all be very thankful of Funimation that we have this wonderful dub that the series didn't just stop with the 4kids dub and put the franchise into limbo.
Okay that's all, just wanted to get that out.
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first world problems. Isn't it nice to be able to complain about such small things?
kidding, kind of. It's good to point out what's good and bad about the dub. I'm hoping they keep it as Sogeking. That's the only thing I'm worried about. I feel like the majority of the fan base wants it that way, so why wouldn't they?
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first world problems. Isn't it nice to be able to complain about such small things?
You're right about that. It's too bad America isn't First World to many… Never mind, carry on.
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kidding, kind of. It's good to point out what's good and bad about the dub. I'm hoping they keep it as Sogeking. That's the only thing I'm worried about. I feel like the majority of the fan base wants it that way, so why wouldn't they?
I recall an interview in the podcasts about that. Mike wanted to keep it as Sogeking.
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can i ask a question? When did this happen?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Piece-Collection-Episodes-1-26/dp/B00BCKOYCM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362688505&sr=8-1What have i missed???
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i didn't know about that.WHAT THE HELL??
i can only hope they won't use it in the dub.It was a Toei List mandate.
For the DVDs, FUNimation actually has license to the show so they can petition Toei to change aspects of their "Evil List", but for the Simulcast, Toei basically owns it 100% and FUNi are just the middle men, so they don't have the power to request changes to the terminology and HAVE to use EXACTLY what Toei dictates. Toei said to use "Second Gear".
However, in One Piece: Unlimited Adventure for the Wii, which was dubbed by FUNi, it's Called "Gear Second" in the Menu and called out as such by Luffy.
I'm hoping they keep it as Sogeking. That's the only thing I'm worried about. I feel like the majority of the fan base wants it that way, so why wouldn't they?
Episode 258 has aired in the Simulcast, and it was "Sogeking". Also, in Unlimited Adventure you could unlock the Sogeking costume, and it was again referred to as "Sogeking".
can i ask a question? When did this happen?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Piece-Collection-Episodes-1-26/dp/B00BCKOYCM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362688505&sr=8-1Last Thursday.
What have i missed???
FUNimation have up to right before Thriller Bark and Strong World. If you believe the "Accidental Leak" then they have till the end of Impel Down and Film Z Too.
Also, the FUNimation dub is awesome as always. Stephanie Young's acting as Robin is <3 and they pronounced "Enies" wrong. Rabble Rabble Rabble 3 pages later
See the first post for more info.
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FUNimation have up to right before Thriller Bark and Strong World. If you believe the "Accidental Leak" then they have till the end of Impel Down and Film Z Too.
Also, the FUNimation dub is awesome as always. Stephanie Young's acting as Robin is <3 and they pronounced "Enies" wrong. Rabble Rabble Rabble 3 pages later
See the first post for more info.
oh no i knew that. I was talking about the fact it was finally coming to the UK. Last i heard manga uk considered it but only if dragonball sold well. I thought this would be big enough news with members of the forum that i would have heard it, or even on the OP podcast
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Oh nice, the UK IS Getting One Piece! I also just noticed, they use the Blue Logo it appears… Interesting.
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I wonder if Stephanie will play little Robin? Don't know how her little girl voice would sound or would they get someone else. Hope she gets to do it though.
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Just updated the FAQ for the first post as I noticed it was out of date and still referenced Season 4 Voyage 4 as not having come out yet. Updated it and added some supplemental information.
If you're already up to date information wise, there'll be nothing new for you here.
! Q: Up to what episode has been released in FUNimation Dub format?
A: Episode 205 is the end of FUNimation's "Season 3". That is the final full season that is currently available. FUNimation is in the progress of releasing Season 4, culminating in the fifth and final volume of Season 4 which will be released on May 14th 2013. At that time up to episode 263, everything right up to the end of Water 7 will have been released.
! Q: Are more episodes beyond that coming, and when?
A: Yes, in addition to the Davy Back Fight and Water Seven arcs' releases as "Season 4". They have also announced their acuisition of "Season 5" which spans the entire Enies Lobby Arc and ends with the Ice Hunter Arc. This season will encompass Episodes 264-336, and will be released in the summer of 2013 starting sometime after May when the final season 4 DVD is released.
! Q: What about the movies?
A: FUNimation's original license included Movie 8 (Episode of Alabasta) and it was dubbed and released on both DVD and Blu-ray. They have also acquired the rights for "One Piece Film: Strong World", and will release it sometime in 2013.
! Q: Wait, I read somewhere that FUNimation ALSO has "Season 6" which is supposed to include up to the end of the "Impel Down" arc and Movie Z. Is this true?
A: When Season 5 was announced, it appears as though the official text press release from FUNimation included an announcement of "Season 6" and "Film Z" and was very specific about the episodes in that season, indicating it would end at the end of the Impel Down arc. As it was in the email press release sent to most news sites, so many of them began running that information despite FUNimation not actually announcing any of that at the official panel. Everyone later made corrections, removing that part of the information due to FUNimation recanting it and claiming it was a mistake.
! Q: So… it's a mistake then? Don't believe it?
A: FUNimation did include this information in an official press release and were very specific about the episode count contained therein, however yes, they did later claim this was a mistake and recanted it. This could mean that FUNimation actually has acquired those episodes, just cannot legally disclose that information yet, but take that with a huge grain of salt. You are free to draw your own conclusions, but at this time the official answer is that they do not have those episodes yet.
! Q: In what format are the DVDs? IE: How many episodes per set?
A: There are currently two release formats for One Piece. First a set of 11-14 episode "Voyages" comes out as the initial release for a given season. Then, shortly after the season finishes its run, FUNimation re-releases the series on lower priced "Collection" sets which are each comprised of two voyages in new packaging (22-26 Episodes Each). Despite this, the disc contents are exactly the same as the voyages right down to the menus. Each collection has an MSRP of $34.98, but prices may vary depending on the outlet you purchase from. As the voyages for Seasons 1-3 have finished being released prices will vary on those. Starting with Season 4 however, Voyages are priced with an MSRP of $39.98.
! Q: When should I expect the next release?
A: Be sure to check different sources/outlets when you can for updates. Suggestions for areas to find these release dates as they come out include amazon.com, rightstuf.com, animenewsnetwork.com, toonezone.net, and crunchyroll.com, among others.
DemonRin will attempt to keep the image above this FAQ updated with that information, however it is possible she may get behind so check elsewhere as well.
! Q: What episode are available in those formats?
A: The entire first 3 US Seasons (Episodes 1-205) are available in Collection format with Season 4 being available in only Voyages thus far. In the past, as the Collections were released, the corresponding Voyage releases were discontinued. Is it not yet known if this will also be the case with Season 4.
! Q: What about Blu-ray? Will the series ever be Re-released in HD?
A: Episodes 1-206 Were produced in Standard Definition via digital ink and paint, therefore an HD Master of these episodes does not exist. For this reason, any Blu-ray that could be released of this material would be an upscale, which most Blu-ray players already do automatically to Standard Definition DVDs. For this reason, while a Blu-ray release of this material is possible, it is pretty much pointless and will not look noticeably better than a DVD release played on a Blu-ray player with Upscale. Either way, there is no information whatsoever about such a release.
! Q: But what about 207+ then?
A: That is the point by which the series began to be produced in Native HD by Toei Animation. FUNimation has revealed in their press release that they have the 16:9 Widescreen HD masters of those episodes.
! Q: Then, will we get a Blu-ray of that?
A: FUNimation currently doesn't have Blu-ray rights for those episodes but noted it was possible and they would be looking into the release format in the future. It is not likely Toei Animation in will give FUNimation those rights. So while it is POSSIBLE we may see a Blu-ray release eventually, currently it does not appear likely, at least in the near future.
! Q: But Why? FUNimation released Movie 8 on Blu-ray, why not the series?
A: There hasn't been any direct information as to why Toei will not release the Blu-ray rights to FUNimation despite providing them with HD Masters, however the most likely answer is that since Japan currently does not have any form of a Blu-ray released planned for the series, and since Blu-ray shares the same regional locking code as America, this would allow Japanese fans to reverse-import the FUNimation Blu-rays, and Toei would not want that to happen. The movies, however, DO have a Japanese Blu-ray release, making it okay for FUNimation to do the same.
! Q: So, if it's POSSIBLE, then how will the Blu-rays be released when/if it happens?
A: Most likely, if a Blu-ray release happens it will either be a dual-release (IE: Both a DVD and A Blu-ray release simultaniously) as they have done with Dragon Ball Kai or they will do a Blu-ray/DVD "Combo Pack" with both formats in one box as they have done with Fairy Tail.
! Q: Are FUNimation's releases Uncut?
A: Yes, Absolutely no in-episode animation content has been changed whatsoever from the Japanese DVD release.
! Q: Are there any differences at all then?
A: FUNimation has a new "Gold" logo that they use for their releases, the Logo has been replaced wherever it appears. (IE, opening and closing themes and Eyecatches) Also, the episode title cards (Reading off the name of the episode) have been rendered (accurately translated) in English and no Japanese option is available for them.* Other than that, the material is left alone.
! *The exception to this rule would be Movie 8. Using angles, it changes the logo and title cards to Japanese if you choose the Japanese language option.
! Q: What about the Opening and Ending Songs?
A: All opening and ending songs are presented as originally broadcast with one exception. Before Season 4, all are dubbed in the English language track, and left entirely alone in the Japanese track. The first ending theme of Season 4, "Mirai Koukai" was skipped by FUNimation, and those episodes where it should appear instead use the next song, "Eternal Pose". The situation caught FUNimation off-guard and caused them to be unable to dub the opening and ending in time for the release of the beginning of Season 4, so at that point the English track begins to default to Japanese OP and ED music. A title card indicated they would try to correct this in the future.
! Q: But why did FUNimation do this?
A: It was not their choice. Every time FUNimation gets a new set of episodes, everything right down to the music has its own set of rights that must be secured. Somewhere in the process, most likely with the artists, someone refused to give the rights to that song so it had to be omitted. This is a problem caused by the Japanese rights holders. FUNimation is not responsible, nor can they do anything about it.
! Q: They stopped dubbing the songs then? Will they ever start again?
A: The title card at the beginning of the first Season 4 DVD explaining the rights issue did say that the same issue also caused them to be unable to dub the songs there, they specifically say this hindered up to episode 230. Most likely the loss of those rights caught FUNimation off-guard and therefore they didn't expect to have to have Eternal Pose dubbed yet, and therefore didn't have the work completed yet. They did however specifically state that after episode 230, they at least intend to begin dubbing the songs again, however as of the release of Voyage 4 (ending with episode 252) this has proven to still not be the case. It is unknown if or when they will start dubbing the songs again, only that they would prefer to.
! Q: Is Zoro "Zoro" or is he "Zolo"?
A: Zoro's name is rendered as "Zoro" in all text appearances (Subtitles, title cards, packaging etc) and spoken word (dub, special features) on FUNimation's DVDs. For some reason, his wanted poster in the Eyecatch will occasionally say "Zolo" when it appears on the first 26 episodes, but this is both an unintentional error that was corrected and is on screen for less than one second and can't be seen by the naked eye during a normal viewing of the series. The only way to see it is to frame-by-frame view the scene. Otherwise he is "Zoro" at all times.
! Q: How is the quality of the English Dub?
A: This is subjective from person to person, but has received positive response from fans overall.
! Q: Is the translation accurate in both formats?
A: Yes, the subtitles are accurate to what is being said, however nothing is left in Japanese except for honorifics and the occasional name. All words are translated to English including Devil Fruit names, attacks, Shichibukai (to Seven Warlords of the Sea) and "Nakama".
The dub is pretty much completely accurate but occasionally has to make slight alterations to match Lip-flap but rarely is the meaning of anything changed because of this.
! Q: What about all the series-specific terms?
A: Everything is translated. For the first 2 seasons, a very small number of terms had to be left in their Viz/4kids forms at the request of Toei animation. However, they are few and far between. (Such as one or two of Kuro and Arlong's attacks)
! Q: Why did those few things slip by?
A: When FUNimation took over the series from 4kids, Toei (the company that animates One Piece) provided them with a "Master List of Terms" which lays out Toei's preferred terminology for use in the series. This list had major errors on it, and heavily favored using the same terms used by 4kids and Viz Manga to maintain consistency. As such, the list mentioned that they would need to use terms like "Zolo" and "Merry Go" for Zoro and the Going Merry respectively. The translator working on One Piece at the time, Clyde Mandelin got an account and posted here as "Mato" to alert us to these facts as well as to tell us that FUNimation is able to appeal these terms by requesting permission to change them from Toei directly, but have to wade through a certain level of red tape to do so. That is why most of the major terms like "Zoro" were corrected.
! Q: Why didn't they just correct everything then?
A: As I briefly mentioned before, the process for appealing a term is not easy. According to Mato they need to supply Toei with some kind of actual proof that the terminology they provided is wrong and asked for help from the fanbase on at least one occasion to provide images from the manga in which this is demonstrated. Because of this, they needed to pick their battles carefully, and wisely decided that major terms such as "Zoro", "Going Merry", "Paramecia" etc were of more importance. Therefore, some of the minor terms including a few of the early villain attacks (Kuro, Arlong etc.) were left. They also left a term alone if the term picked by Toei was accurate, just not typical. (IE: "Gum Gum", "Battle Axe", "Shark Darts")Now that Manga UK got a UK version of One Piece and will be using the FUNimation version, as well as Madman's release being a thing, I decided to write the following short FAQ for fans in those territories:
FUNimation Dub International FAQ:
! Q: Where besides America is the FUNimation Dub available?
A: Canada also uses Region 1 DVD codes, therefore the FUNimation DVDs sold in America are also sold in Canada and will play in Canadian DVD players without modification. Outside that, FUNimation themselves do not distribute DVDs in other regions, but their dub is used in some international releases including Madman Australia's release of the series and recently Manga UK's announced release.
! Madman Australia Questions:
Q: What Format are the episodes being released in?
A: The primary release format in this version matches FUNimation's "Voyages" release exactly right down to the use of the exact same cover art. (See the above FAQ for more info) The only difference is that while FUNimation refers to their releases by "Season X Voyage X" Madman simply calls them all "Collections" and numbers them sequentially, meaning the first set of FUNimation's "Season Four" is simply called "Collection 17".
! Q: But if they're doing the "Collections", does that mean they have (around) 26 episodes per set?
A: As said above, they emulate the "Voyages" exactly, therefore they have 11-14 episodes each as stated above in the break down of the voyages. Madman simply decided to call their release "Collections" and actually did so before FUNimation decided to call their re-release "Collections". It's simply an unfortunate naming decision that potentially creates confusion.
! Q: So, do Madman have any kind of re-release of the series? Is it equivalent to the FUNimation "Collections"?
A: They have re-released the series in bigger boxed sets however they went an entirely different route than FUNimation decided to. Instead of 22-26 episode sets as FUNimation are doing, Madman decided to repackage the first 16 volumes (3 FUNimation Seasons) into two massive boxed sets called "One Piece Treasure Chests 1 & 2" Containing 103 and 102 episodes respectively. A picture of them can be seen here.
! Q: Are there any appreciable differences between the FUNimation release and the Madman Release?
A: None has been discovered at this time. They appear to be completely identical besides Madman's name and logo appearing at some logical places on the packaging and credits.
! Q: How far behind FUNimation is Madman?
A: They're consistently one volume behind FUNimation. Collection 19 which will correspond to FUNimation Season 4 Voyage 3 will be released March 20th 2013. Basically, around the time FUNimation releases a volume, expect Madman to release their version of the previous volume.
! Q: What about the Movies?
A: Madman pretty much follows FUNimation's lead on everything. As such, they also have a release of Movie 8, Episode of Alabasta at this time. No word has yet been given on what they plan to do with Movie 10, Strong World that FUNimation announced for release in 2013 but it would be fair to assume Madman will want to release it some time after FUNimation makes their release in America.
! Q: Australia doesn't have our own version of Amazon, where should I order the DVDs?
A: If you look, you can find plenty of online retailers, however I would recommend JB Hifi's website.
! Manga UK Questions:
Q: Is Manga really releasing One Piece in the UK?!
A: Yes! It is true! Manga announced that they will be releasing the FUNimation dub of One Piece in the UK! Rejoice~!
! Q: What episodes are available?
A: None as of yet, the release is only announced however to get caught up, Manga will be releasing the episodes at right around 1 set every 1-2 months once they get started. The release date of the first volume is May 27 2013 and can be pre-ordered at Amazon.co.uk right now along with the next 3 sets. The Release dates of sets 2, 3, and 4 are July 1st, September 23rd and November 11th respectively.
! Q: What's the release format (Episode count) on these Sets?
A: They appear to be emulating FUNimation's "Collection" sets exactly right down to the cover art. The only apparent difference based on the image posted at Amazon.co.uk is that they appear to be using the original Blue One Piece Logo instead of FUNimation's Gold one. However, as the release has not actually begun yet, all of this information is subject to change.
! Q: What about the Movies?
A: As Manga UK's release is very new at this point, and the series itself has not even begun to come out, there is as of yet no information whatsoever on any movie release. However, as they will be reusing the FUNimation dub materials, it would be safe to assume Manga will not be releasing any movies before FUNimation.Zephray, if you could be so kind as to replace the FAQ in the first post with these new ones please?
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Just updated the FAQ for the first post as I noticed it was out of date and still referenced Season 4 Voyage 4 as not having come out yet. Updated it and added some supplemental information.
If you're already up to date information wise, there'll be nothing new for you here.
! Q: Up to what episode has been released in FUNimation Dub format?
A: Episode 205 is the end of FUNimation's "Season 3". That is the final full season that is currently available. FUNimation is in the progress of releasing Season 4, culminating in the fifth and final volume of Season 4 which will be released on May 14th 2013. At that time up to episode 263, everything right up to the end of Water 7 will have been released.
! Q: Are more episodes beyond that coming, and when?
A: Yes, in addition to the Davy Back Fight and Water Seven arcs' releases as "Season 4". They have also announced their acuisition of "Season 5" which spans the entire Enies Lobby Arc and ends with the Ice Hunter Arc. This season will encompass Episodes 264-336, and will be released in the summer of 2013 starting sometime after May when the final season 4 DVD is released.
! Q: What about the movies?
A: FUNimation's original license included Movie 8 (Episode of Alabasta) and it was dubbed and released on both DVD and Blu-ray. They have also acquired the rights for "One Piece Film: Strong World", and will release it sometime in 2013.
! Q: Wait, I read somewhere that FUNimation ALSO has "Season 6" which is supposed to include up to the end of the "Impel Down" arc and Movie Z. Is this true?
A: When Season 5 was announced, it appears as though the official text press release from FUNimation included an announcement of "Season 6" and "Film Z" and was very specific about the episodes in that season, indicating it would end at the end of the Impel Down arc. As it was in the email press release sent to most news sites, so many of them began running that information despite FUNimation not actually announcing any of that at the official panel. Everyone later made corrections, removing that part of the information due to FUNimation recanting it and claiming it was a mistake.
! Q: So… it's a mistake then? Don't believe it?
A: FUNimation did include this information in an official press release and were very specific about the episode count contained therein, however yes, they did later claim this was a mistake and recanted it. This could mean that FUNimation actually has acquired those episodes, just cannot legally disclose that information yet, but take that with a huge grain of salt. You are free to draw your own conclusions, but at this time the official answer is that they do not have those episodes yet.
! Q: In what format are the DVDs? IE: How many episodes per set?
A: There are currently two release formats for One Piece. First a set of 11-14 episode "Voyages" comes out as the initial release for a given season. Then, shortly after the season finishes its run, FUNimation re-releases the series on lower priced "Collection" sets which are each comprised of two voyages in new packaging (22-26 Episodes Each). Despite this, the disc contents are exactly the same as the voyages right down to the menus. Each collection has an MSRP of $34.98, but prices may vary depending on the outlet you purchase from. As the voyages for Seasons 1-3 have finished being released prices will vary on those. Starting with Season 4 however, Voyages are priced with an MSRP of $39.98.
! Q: When should I expect the next release?
A: Be sure to check different sources/outlets when you can for updates. Suggestions for areas to find these release dates as they come out include amazon.com, rightstuf.com, animenewsnetwork.com, toonezone.net, and crunchyroll.com, among others.
DemonRin will attempt to keep the image above this FAQ updated with that information, however it is possible she may get behind so check elsewhere as well.
! Q: What episode are available in those formats?
A: The entire first 3 US Seasons (Episodes 1-205) are available in Collection format with Season 4 being available in only Voyages thus far. In the past, as the Collections were released, the corresponding Voyage releases were discontinued. Is it not yet known if this will also be the case with Season 4.
! Q: What about Blu-ray? Will the series ever be Re-released in HD?
A: Episodes 1-206 Were produced in Standard Definition via digital ink and paint, therefore an HD Master of these episodes does not exist. For this reason, any Blu-ray that could be released of this material would be an upscale, which most Blu-ray players already do automatically to Standard Definition DVDs. For this reason, while a Blu-ray release of this material is possible, it is pretty much pointless and will not look noticeably better than a DVD release played on a Blu-ray player with Upscale. Either way, there is no information whatsoever about such a release.
! Q: But what about 207+ then?
A: That is the point by which the series began to be produced in Native HD by Toei Animation. FUNimation has revealed in their press release that they have the 16:9 Widescreen HD masters of those episodes.
! Q: Then, will we get a Blu-ray of that?
A: FUNimation currently doesn't have Blu-ray rights for those episodes but noted it was possible and they would be looking into the release format in the future. It is not likely Toei Animation in will give FUNimation those rights. So while it is POSSIBLE we may see a Blu-ray release eventually, currently it does not appear likely, at least in the near future.
! Q: But Why? FUNimation released Movie 8 on Blu-ray, why not the series?
A: There hasn't been any direct information as to why Toei will not release the Blu-ray rights to FUNimation despite providing them with HD Masters, however the most likely answer is that since Japan currently does not have any form of a Blu-ray released planned for the series, and since Blu-ray shares the same regional locking code as America, this would allow Japanese fans to reverse-import the FUNimation Blu-rays, and Toei would not want that to happen. The movies, however, DO have a Japanese Blu-ray release, making it okay for FUNimation to do the same.
! Q: So, if it's POSSIBLE, then how will the Blu-rays be released when/if it happens?
A: Most likely, if a Blu-ray release happens it will either be a dual-release (IE: Both a DVD and A Blu-ray release simultaniously) as they have done with Dragon Ball Kai or they will do a Blu-ray/DVD "Combo Pack" with both formats in one box as they have done with Fairy Tail.
! Q: Are FUNimation's releases Uncut?
A: Yes, Absolutely no in-episode animation content has been changed whatsoever from the Japanese DVD release.
! Q: Are there any differences at all then?
A: FUNimation has a new "Gold" logo that they use for their releases, the Logo has been replaced wherever it appears. (IE, opening and closing themes and Eyecatches) Also, the episode title cards (Reading off the name of the episode) have been rendered (accurately translated) in English and no Japanese option is available for them.* Other than that, the material is left alone.
! *The exception to this rule would be Movie 8. Using angles, it changes the logo and title cards to Japanese if you choose the Japanese language option.
! Q: What about the Opening and Ending Songs?
A: All opening and ending songs are presented as originally broadcast with one exception. Before Season 4, all are dubbed in the English language track, and left entirely alone in the Japanese track. The first ending theme of Season 4, "Mirai Koukai" was skipped by FUNimation, and those episodes where it should appear instead use the next song, "Eternal Pose". The situation caught FUNimation off-guard and caused them to be unable to dub the opening and ending in time for the release of the beginning of Season 4, so at that point the English track begins to default to Japanese OP and ED music. A title card indicated they would try to correct this in the future.
! Q: But why did FUNimation do this?
A: It was not their choice. Every time FUNimation gets a new set of episodes, everything right down to the music has its own set of rights that must be secured. Somewhere in the process, most likely with the artists, someone refused to give the rights to that song so it had to be omitted. This is a problem caused by the Japanese rights holders. FUNimation is not responsible, nor can they do anything about it.
! Q: They stopped dubbing the songs then? Will they ever start again?
A: The title card at the beginning of the first Season 4 DVD explaining the rights issue did say that the same issue also caused them to be unable to dub the songs there, they specifically say this hindered up to episode 230. Most likely the loss of those rights caught FUNimation off-guard and therefore they didn't expect to have to have Eternal Pose dubbed yet, and therefore didn't have the work completed yet. They did however specifically state that after episode 230, they at least intend to begin dubbing the songs again, however as of the release of Voyage 4 (ending with episode 252) this has proven to still not be the case. It is unknown if or when they will start dubbing the songs again, only that they would prefer to.
! Q: Is Zoro "Zoro" or is he "Zolo"?
A: Zoro's name is rendered as "Zoro" in all text appearances (Subtitles, title cards, packaging etc) and spoken word (dub, special features) on FUNimation's DVDs. For some reason, his wanted poster in the Eyecatch will occasionally say "Zolo" when it appears on the first 26 episodes, but this is both an unintentional error that was corrected and is on screen for less than one second and can't be seen by the naked eye during a normal viewing of the series. The only way to see it is to frame-by-frame view the scene. Otherwise he is "Zoro" at all times.
! Q: How is the quality of the English Dub?
A: This is subjective from person to person, but has received positive response from fans overall.
! Q: Is the translation accurate in both formats?
A: Yes, the subtitles are accurate to what is being said, however nothing is left in Japanese except for honorifics and the occasional name. All words are translated to English including Devil Fruit names, attacks, Shichibukai (to Seven Warlords of the Sea) and "Nakama".
The dub is pretty much completely accurate but occasionally has to make slight alterations to match Lip-flap but rarely is the meaning of anything changed because of this.
! Q: What about all the series-specific terms?
A: Everything is translated. For the first 2 seasons, a very small number of terms had to be left in their Viz/4kids forms at the request of Toei animation. However, they are few and far between. (Such as one or two of Kuro and Arlong's attacks)
! Q: Why did those few things slip by?
A: When FUNimation took over the series from 4kids, Toei (the company that animates One Piece) provided them with a "Master List of Terms" which lays out Toei's preferred terminology for use in the series. This list had major errors on it, and heavily favored using the same terms used by 4kids and Viz Manga to maintain consistency. As such, the list mentioned that they would need to use terms like "Zolo" and "Merry Go" for Zoro and the Going Merry respectively. The translator working on One Piece at the time, Clyde Mandelin got an account and posted here as "Mato" to alert us to these facts as well as to tell us that FUNimation is able to appeal these terms by requesting permission to change them from Toei directly, but have to wade through a certain level of red tape to do so. That is why most of the major terms like "Zoro" were corrected.
! Q: Why didn't they just correct everything then?
A: As I briefly mentioned before, the process for appealing a term is not easy. According to Mato they need to supply Toei with some kind of actual proof that the terminology they provided is wrong and asked for help from the fanbase on at least one occasion to provide images from the manga in which this is demonstrated. Because of this, they needed to pick their battles carefully, and wisely decided that major terms such as "Zoro", "Going Merry", "Paramecia" etc were of more importance. Therefore, some of the minor terms including a few of the early villain attacks (Kuro, Arlong etc.) were left. They also left a term alone if the term picked by Toei was accurate, just not typical. (IE: "Gum Gum", "Battle Axe", "Shark Darts")Now that Manga UK got a UK version of One Piece and will be using the FUNimation version, as well as Madman's release being a thing, I decided to write the following short FAQ for fans in those territories:
FUNimation Dub International FAQ:
! Q: Where besides America is the FUNimation Dub available?
A: Canada also uses Region 1 DVD codes, therefore the FUNimation DVDs sold in America are also sold in Canada and will play in Canadian DVD players without modification. Outside that, FUNimation themselves do not distribute DVDs in other regions, but their dub is used in some international releases including Madman Australia's release of the series and recently Manga UK's announced release.
! Madman Australia Questions:
Q: What Format are the episodes being released in?
A: The primary release format in this version matches FUNimation's "Voyages" release exactly right down to the use of the exact same cover art. (See the above FAQ for more info) The only difference is that while FUNimation refers to their releases by "Season X Voyage X" Madman simply calls them all "Collections" and numbers them sequentially, meaning the first set of FUNimation's "Season Four" is simply called "Collection 17".
! Q: But if they're doing the "Collections", does that mean they have (around) 26 episodes per set?
A: As said above, they emulate the "Voyages" exactly, therefore they have 11-14 episodes each as stated above in the break down of the voyages. Madman simply decided to call their release "Collections" and actually did so before FUNimation decided to call their re-release "Collections". It's simply an unfortunate naming decision that potentially creates confusion.
! Q: So, do Madman have any kind of re-release of the series? Is it equivalent to the FUNimation "Collections"?
A: They have re-released the series in bigger boxed sets however they went an entirely different route than FUNimation decided to. Instead of 22-26 episode sets as FUNimation are doing, Madman decided to repackage the first 16 volumes (3 FUNimation Seasons) into two massive boxed sets called "One Piece Treasure Chests 1 & 2" Containing 103 and 102 episodes respectively. A picture of them can be seen here.
! Q: Are there any appreciable differences between the FUNimation release and the Madman Release?
A: None has been discovered at this time. They appear to be completely identical besides Madman's name and logo appearing at some logical places on the packaging and credits.
! Q: How far behind FUNimation is Madman?
A: They're consistently one volume behind FUNimation. Collection 19 which will correspond to FUNimation Season 4 Voyage 3 will be released March 20th 2013. Basically, around the time FUNimation releases a volume, expect Madman to release their version of the previous volume.
! Q: What about the Movies?
A: Madman pretty much follows FUNimation's lead on everything. As such, they also have a release of Movie 8, Episode of Alabasta at this time. No word has yet been given on what they plan to do with Movie 10, Strong World that FUNimation announced for release in 2013 but it would be fair to assume Madman will want to release it some time after FUNimation makes their release in America.
! Q: Australia doesn't have our own version of Amazon, where should I order the DVDs?
A: If you look, you can find plenty of online retailers, however I would recommend JB Hifi's website.
! Manga UK Questions:
Q: Is Manga really releasing One Piece in the UK?!
A: Yes! It is true! Manga announced that they will be releasing the FUNimation dub of One Piece in the UK! Rejoice~!
! Q: What episodes are available?
A: None as of yet, the release is only announced however to get caught up, Manga will be releasing the episodes at right around 1 set every 1-2 months once they get started. The release date of the first volume is May 27 2013 and can be pre-ordered at Amazon.co.uk right now along with the next 3 sets. The Release dates of sets 2, 3, and 4 are July 1st, September 23rd and November 11th respectively.
! Q: What's the release format (Episode count) on these Sets?
A: They appear to be emulating FUNimation's "Collection" sets exactly right down to the cover art. The only apparent difference based on the image posted at Amazon.co.uk is that they appear to be using the original Blue One Piece Logo instead of FUNimation's Gold one. However, as the release has not actually begun yet, all of this information is subject to change.
! Q: What about the Movies?
A: As Manga UK's release is very new at this point, and the series itself has not even begun to come out, there is as of yet no information whatsoever on any movie release. However, as they will be reusing the FUNimation dub materials, it would be safe to assume Manga will not be releasing any movies before FUNimation.Zephray, if you could be so kind as to replace the FAQ in the first post with these new ones please?
Da-da-da-done.
Fixed the credits, too. :]
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Oh nice, the UK IS Getting One Piece! I also just noticed, they use the Blue Logo it appears… Interesting.
Agreed. It's supposedly Funi's masters they're using, right? I'd assume in that case the gold logo would be in the episodes themselves, which will make it strange for someone with no knowledge of the two variations.
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It was a Toei List mandate.
For the DVDs, FUNimation actually has license to the show so they can petition Toei to change aspects of their "Evil List", but for the Simulcast, Toei basically owns it 100% and FUNi are just the middle men, so they don't have the power to request changes to the terminology and HAVE to use EXACTLY what Toei dictates. Toei said to use "Second Gear".
That would explain why Chopper's rumble ball forms in the simulcast are "______ Boost", while in the dub it's "_______ Point".
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That would explain why Chopper's rumble ball forms in the simulcast are "______ Boost", while in the dub it's "_______ Point".
This. Exactly this. It's also "____ Point" in the subs on the DVDs.
But the Simulcast again, FUNi has no say. They HAVE to use what they're told. That's actually why the Simulcast leaves "Haki" in Japanese. Mato, the translator, used to post here and told us that he translated it as "Ambition Power" the first time and just as "Ambition" every time after. The Toei list says to leave it in Japanese as "Haki" so they had to change it.
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I do wonder if the simulcast video is coming from Toei, since when an episode first comes out, it has the old Funimation logo, but once the episode changes to Hulu, it has the current logo.
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Sorry to be a nuisance but has anyone uploaded the s4 v5 trailer yet for those of us outside the U.S? I did look back over the last couple of pages but all i could see were arguments over mispronunciation, the trailer seemed to pass by unnoticed…
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Maybe this will work? http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/0usL0c5SlKc
If not, I'm sure it'll be uploaded by someone else soon.
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@gum:
Sorry to be a nuisance but has anyone uploaded the s4 v5 trailer yet for those of us outside the U.S? I did look back over the last couple of pages but all i could see were arguments over mispronunciation, the trailer seemed to pass by unnoticed…
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@Mikey:
As I've said before, there's nothing wrong with saying there's a flaw in the product you choose to support… It's especially justified if you're spending your time and money on it. Rin has a really good point with the Baratie analogy; since FUNi got that pronunciation right, then how come they got it wrong here with Enies? In this set, Mike even said "nakama." I know it didn't slip into the actual show or anything, but it's our feedback that lets FUNi know what they're doing wrong and what they're doing right.
Personally, I've been pronouncing it "eh-knee-ess" ever since the term popped up circa 2005. To hear it being pronounced differently, and incorrectly, after eight years is a really noticeable thing.
I've honestly pronounced it as en-ees this entire time, so this is news to me. I guess I never paid attention in the Japanese version or assumed it would translate differently to English.
But by this argument, Sabaody should be pronounced Shabondi like in the Japanese version, so I don't feel like it's a huge deal. But then AGAIN, as Rin just said, I guess I would be annoyed if they mispronounced Baratie, so I do see the point.
Maybe someone can pass this along to Mike.
But the Simulcast again, FUNi has no say. They HAVE to use what they're told. That's actually why the Simulcast leaves "Haki" in Japanese. Mato, the translator, used to post here and told us that he translated it as "Ambition Power" the first time and just as "Ambition" every time after. The Toei list says to leave it in Japanese as "Haki" so they had to change it.
I'm pretty sure they use Haki in the manga VIZ translations as well.
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Da-da-da-done.
Fixed the credits, too. :]
It is ridiculously awesome that some of the FAQ's from my initial writeup (as Gerchak, back in February 2007) are still in there. Then again, the clarification has always been needed.
Back on topic, I always pronounced it as "N-Ace". Two syllables. Made sense to me. But whatever.
Back on the real topic, should we assume at this point that Map of the Heart won't be dubbed?
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It is ridiculously awesome that some of the FAQ's from my initial writeup (as Gerchak, back in February 2007) are still in there. Then again, the clarification has always been needed.
Back on topic, I always pronounced it as "N-Ace". Two syllables. Made sense to me. But whatever.
Back on the real topic, should we assume at this point that Map of the Heart won't be dubbed?
At this point you should assume all songs won't be dubbed, yeah. Fifth Voyage is the final chance but there really doesn't seem to be any hope if we've gone this far without Toei/Avex budging.
As for the Enies Lobby thing, I pronounced it "eh-nees" this whole time though I think I heard about "NES" before, I didn't really care about the dub's prnunciation. Shrug It's not going to change so while your annoyances are understandable, it's not like Mike would actually go back and have every single character that has ever said the word Enies pronounce it the "proper" way when they're all the way in the 290s-early 300s at this point.
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I'm still hoping for it, personally. This is their last shot to get the dub of MotH on a set, so…
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Don't be naive, whether I posted or not, they would've still be talking about this tripe.
The last serious post about the pronunciation of "Enies" occurred on March 7th, 2013 at 11:36 AM in the following 24 hours, there were 14 posts, taking up almost all of one page in which the topic had moved on. Besides me making fun of myself over it briefly, it was effectively dropped. We were discussing, in order:
Speculation on whether or not the dub would use "Sogeking".
The FUNi Dub will be released on DVD in the UK!
Toei's terminology list being the cause of differences between terms in the Simulcast and DVDs
More Sogeking talk
The "Accidental leak" of the Season 6 information we got back around the same time as the Season 5 info
Robin's voice actor is awesome
Rin makes fun of herself over the Enies pronounciation issue (Not really talking about it)
More UK talk
Will Stephanie Young play YOUNG Robin in the Flashback?
Rin Updated the FAQ!
More UK talk
More Simulcast Vs. DVD TalkThen, the next day on March 8th, 2013 at 11:58 AM. A little more than 24 hours since the last serious post about the matter, was you bringing it back up for no reason when the rest of us had moved on a whole day prior.
So, no, we wouldn't still be talking about it, because we already weren't still talking about it. Until you brought it back up. Self fulfilling prophecy anyone?I think your problem here is that you are equating "Time Spent talking about an issue" with "Seriousness of the issue" meaning the more time spent talking about it makes it a bigger issue than it really is.
I've said this from the beginning. It's not a big deal. It's not. I'm not gonna swear off this dub, or try to raise a boycott, or write an angry letter to Mike McFarland. I just pointed out that they got this one little bit wrong and that it annoyed me, and a bunch of people found it interesting, or didn't already know the proper pronunciation of the word and therefore wanted to discuss it a bit. That's it. It's not ridiculous, it's people having a civil discussion on an online forum in which we're supposed to have discussions.You should have seen the 10+ page bitchfest that came about when it was discovered that FUNi reused some 4kids materials and "Zolo" appeared on Zoro's wanted poster in his Eyecatch in the first two sets.
It was on screen for 1/10 of a second and was literally impossible to see unless you frame by framed the video and stopped it at EXACTLY the right moment. But to some people, that was grounds to boycott this shoddy dub for having the NERVE to use a 4kids term… for a 10th of a second...But by this argument, Sabaody should be pronounced Shabondi like in the Japanese version, so I don't feel like it's a huge deal. But then AGAIN, as Rin just said, I guess I would be annoyed if they mispronounced Baratie, so I do see the point.
See? Now we're talking about it again, thanks Raccy! >_>
@Chopperrules: That's not really an apt comparison because "Enies" is a word Oda literally made up. He's a Japanese person who invented this word, so Japanese pronunciation rules should apply. "Sabaody" is a loan word from Portuguese, it comes from "Sabao" which means "Bubble". They should treat that word like they treat the French in Sanji's attacks and pronounce it the way the word is supposed to be pronounced in Portuguese.
Now, back to the REAL topic as we have MOVED ON.
This is indeed their last chance to dub Kokoro no Chizu, and I REALLY Want to hear a dubbed Dear Friends… I hope we get dubbed for episode 312 is all I'm gonna say about that.
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meh, my two cents on the matter … i've always pronounced it like this guy does:
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=29wlct0&s=6N_S Lobby
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can any one tell me what is the music name in this
one piece
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It's just a track FUNimation made in-house for all the One Piece Season 4 trailers. Doesn't have a name nor could you really find it anywhere.
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It's a shame we most likely won't have dubbed openings/endings anymore, been looking forward to "Brand New World" since forever.
And if it's true the reason Ending 14 was never used by FUNimation was due to Tackey & Tsubasa then it's likely we won't be getting "Crazy Rainbow" at all either.
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It's a shame we most likely won't have dubbed openings/endings anymore, been looking forward to "Brand New World" since forever.
And if it's true the reason Ending 14 was never used by FUNimation was due to Tackey & Tsubasa then it's likely we won't be getting "Crazy Rainbow" at all either.
Which is a shame, say what you want about it but it was a great opening.
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Don't be naive in thinking that it helped or prevented a damn thing. Prick. Go be an asshole elsewhere.
Hmm. Resulted to flaming, am I right? Well, well, well…
And I'm glad you HAVE moved on, Demon. Believe me. Reading that crap everyday was annoying as all hell.
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Hmm. Resulted to flaming, am I right? Well, well, well…
And I'm glad you HAVE moved on, Demon. Believe me. Reading that crap everyday was annoying as all hell.
And reading your crap right now is annoying as hell as well, so we're even.
Nobody was "Bitching" or being jerks about it like you made us out to be. Everyone was having a perfectly civil discussion about the pronunciation of a word until you decided to become offended and take issue with us taking a little time to discuss an extremely minor, but somewhat fascinating issue for people who may not have known the proper pronunciation.
There was no ire, no bile, no ill intent. no bitching, no moaning, no whining, no bullshit.Then you came along.
It's a shame we most likely won't have dubbed openings/endings anymore, been looking forward to "Brand New World" since forever.
And if it's true the reason Ending 14 was never used by FUNimation was due to Tackey & Tsubasa then it's likely we won't be getting "Crazy Rainbow" at all either.
… is it bad to say I probably wouldn't mind that? I LOVED Brand New World and I HATED Crazy Rainbow... lol...
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And reading your crap right now is annoying as hell as well, so we're even.
Nobody was "Bitching" or being jerks about it like you made us out to be. Everyone was having a perfectly civil discussion about the pronunciation of a word until you decided to become offended and take issue with us taking a little time to discuss an extremely minor, but somewhat fascinating issue for people who may not have known the proper pronunciation.
There was no ire, no bile, no ill intent. no bitching, no moaning, no whining, no bullshit.Then you came along.
You can keep that claim and take it with you to the grave, because I know what I saw. You're trying to undermine it, like every anime fan does. That shit won't work with me, ok? So stop trying. And carry on. If you were truly done with the subject, you would not have responded to me in this way, Demon. Check yourself.
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Unfriendly and/or mean posts are so much worse than pronunciation conversation. You're counterproductive.
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I just went through the past 3 pages of the thread and tallied how many actual posts we talked about this issue.
3 posts on Page 65
4 posts on Page 66
15 posts on page 67. 2 of which were Raccy complaining and 4 were us replying to or talking about Raccy's complaining
3 on page 68, 4 if you want to count the one where I made fun of myself over it.That's 26 posts total about it, 24 if you remove Raccy's two posts about it (Because it's RACCY complaining about US remember?)
Then you have to remove me and Mikey's next 4 posts about it because they were replying directly to his two. Not fair to attack us for posts he himself baited us into right? Even counting the one post where all I did was make fun of myself for it ("They got Enies Wrong! Rabble rabble rabble, 3 pages later". I am CLEARLY Poking fun at myself here) That makes an even 20 That's only one full page worth of talking. Not 3. And it was spliced within several other ongoing conversations, mostly PRAISE for the dub coming from the SAME PEOPLE having the "Enies" Conversation.So I can't be blamed for "Undermining" it, and to be clear I'm not misrepresenting anything, here's a complete breakdown of the entire discussion starting on page 65. Spoiler'd so nobody has to read it if they don't wana.
! First page of posts it was a footnote. I praised the hell out of Robin's acting then added "Damnit, they're universally pronouncing Enies Lobby wrong…"
Next post was simply someone asking me the proper pronunciation while we were primarily talking about Robin's acting in the scene.
I next only refer to it being "kinda Annoying" and nothing else.
Then a whole page went by without anyone talking about it, until Mikey popped in to agree with me that he hated it... as a footnote once again to total praise of the dub, this time Spandam's voice.
Then someone pointed out that Sanji said it right in the previous set and we discussed that for a few posts.
I then gave a detailed breakdown of the Japanese characters involved, and again. This was meant to be detailed and informative, not negative. So I only said it was "Annoying" and never used any stronger language about it.
We then theorized the Lipflap was the probably reason and were ready to move on.
Then Raccy posted complaining about our discussion.
Queue 5 total posts of us replying to Raccy and Raccy replying back.
Then we started JOKING ABOUT IT with 400MillionBelis commenting that it was pronounced like "NES" (Nintendo Entertainment System)
I made a Nintendo Joke!
We then started talking about Broadcast dub Vs. DVD Dub, off the topic now.
A couple of people still popped up to comment on it, but it was mostly people just asking about the pronunciation or commenting on how they "Used to pronounce it". The discussion was pretty much dead.
wjbraden popped in to agree with Raccy, and that was it...
Until Raccy started up this Conversation about the ConversationHow am I undermining it?
TL:DR version of what's in the spoilers: We had a civil conversation about it, mostly me educating on the Japanese pronunciation, Mikey and I saying we "Hate it" and thought it was "annoying" (Pretty much every post we did included other praises of the dub in the same post, IE Robin and Spandam's acting) Some people started saying their assumed pronunciations on it. We figured it was a lipflap issue, started to JOKE about it, and were ready to move on.Switch Friend Code: SW-1795-2519-1884 • Click Here to check out my Twitch Channel
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That's a lot of effort. You win just for that.
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Just ignore him guys. Its better that way.
