Really 6-8 episodes isn't bad for 23$. I remember the days when we would have to pay more for less.
As for the Straw Hat version of We Are. I don't get it. It's sung by the Straw Hat voice actors. English Straw Hats dub over Japanese Straw Hats. Just because they're singing it's different? I mean, maybe the instrumentals will cause a problem, but I thought it was the bands who were causing the problem before.
Really 6-8 episodes isn't bad for 23$. I remember the days when we would have to pay more for less.
As for the Straw Hat version of We Are. I don't get it. It's sung by the Straw Hat voice actors. English Straw Hats dub over Japanese Straw Hats. Just because they're singing it's different? I mean, maybe the instrumentals will cause a problem, but I thought it was the bands who were causing the problem before.
Thing is, it's still a song Avex/Toei has the rights to. They're not letting FUNimation dub any songs, not just the ones we've gone though so far.
The only band that seems to have probably had a problem was Tackey & Tsubasa. For all the other songs it's jsut been becasue Avex/Toei or whoever wants to preumably promote the music, I don't think it's through the actual bands themselves but the people handling them.
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Music rights are notoriously tricky and/or expensive. The rights for the credit songs are separate from the BGM rights, as in Japan separate companies handle them, and it can apparently be an ordeal licensing just one of them. That's one of the reasons why 4Kids didn't even bother with it; it actually WAS less of an expense and hassle to have some guy bang out some new music they could own the rights to.
As for the recaps, I'd rather have them in full than not have them at all with no Straw Hat Theaters. If people can buy that set despite the unfavorable content, that will only further prove the power of the brand, which is what we want, right?
And anyone who wants 15 eps, be aware that going over 3 hours means more compressing has to be done to make the episodes fit. And personally, I don't want anything to hurt the pristine condition of the eps we have now; whatever was gained with the HD masters could easily be lost with further compression.
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14 eps then. That'd be perfect. 14 eps total on that set, 12 on the rest except 1 that will have 11.
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I imagine people were complaining like this with Season 2 voyage 7, yes?
Really 6-8 episodes isn't bad for 23$. I remember the days when we would have to pay more for less.
I too remember the days when we had to pay more for less, but there's not much bargaining to be had that excuses a double-dip. The only bargaining one can have is "WHELP GRIZZLAY, IT'S BETTER THAN NO DUBBED EPISODES AT ALL".
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I imagine people were complaining like this with Season 2 voyage 7, yes?
Why? Because most of it was filler? That's different from a recap.
Ugh…really don't like the idea of keeping the recap episodes in the sets even more if keeping the Strawhat Detective ones, and like Demon Rin said, there's a reason why they weren't in the Japanese DVD release. Really want them to put them as bonus content or something like that. 
Skipping episodes is just asking for trouble. If they skip episodes then I hope they at least skip the episode numbering to stay even with everything else. Or else future conversations will be like, 'hey did you see episode 350? It was awsome.', 'what are you talking about that episode was crap, oh wait I forgot they skipped several episodes a few arcs back didn't they, somthing about recaps and people complaining about double dipping.'
Gadszooks!
Ideal: three discs. One disc has recaps. Others have content. 14 episodes would be fine.
Skipping episodes is just asking for trouble. If they skip episodes then I hope they at least skip the episode numbering to stay even with everything else. Or else future conversations will be like, 'hey did you see episode 350? It was awsome.', 'what are you talking about that episode was crap, oh wait I forgot they skipped several episodes a few arcs back didn't they, somthing about recaps and people complaining about double dipping.'
Gadszooks!
Something tells me you've never watched episodes 279 through 283.
Anyone that has watched those 5 episodes knows that they have absolutely no new content relative to Enies Lobby. They're not even filler. They are recaps. This is literally how they progress since you've never watched them:
Scene 1: The Strawhats stand epically on the building looking up to CP9.
Scene 2: Zoom in to a Strawhat's face as a monologue from a Strawhat begins on what brought them to that point.
Scene 3: Flashback featuring the exact same animation and dialogue from old episodes.
Scene 4: Zoom out from Strawhat's face, a monologue finishes their reflection on their past.
Scene 5: Kokoro tells everyone to jump off onto the train.
Scene 6: TO BE CONTINUED is shown on screen.
That's it. 0% of what happens in 279-283 is relevant to the story as presented in the manga. 0% of what happens in 279-283 is relevant to the pacing of the Enies Lobby arc. If you don't believe me, go watch them. The argument about people missing 279-283, and complaining about it later, holds no water.
Yes I've seen the episodes and agree that they are not worth seeing more than once. I always skip to the big scene on the bridge during my multiple rewatchings. But I got'da'catch'em'all.
So my votes still for including the crappy stuff.
That said I fully understand why people would want to leave it out.
I'd be completely fine if they were left out, there could even be a note on the DVD case noting why, so that the episode count is left alone too.
That said, I'll still get the set without hesitation and get over it. It's just that this'll make the wait for the following Voyage a lot longer.
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Hey guys, I wanna bring up the topic of the Strong World movie. As we know, casting (and at this point possibly the dubbing process) started around January of this year. With that said, we were told to expect a summer release for the DVD/Blu-Ray (is this getting both formats?), which could be anywhere from June through mid-September. It is probably safe to assume that we can expect it towards the latter half of the summer; I’m personally expecting August or so for the disc release.
However, I’m pretty sure that Funimation will be doing a theatrical run for Strong World. Assuming they follow a similar format like they did for the FMA: Sacred Star of Milos movie, we could expect a theatrical run for Strong World around June. The FMA movie ran in theaters in January of 2012 and got a home release on April 24th, 2012, roughly 3 months after the theatrical release. With a similar release and even assuming Strong World won’t get its disc release till the end of summer around September, June is 3 months before that, lining it up with the way they did the FMA movie. Since they have probably done casting and are possibly even currently recording the movie at this point, I don’t see the movie being ready for a June theatrical run as too farfetched.
This could just be me overthinking this through, but I’ll most likely be overseas in July/August so I really want to see this in theaters in June before I leave 
What are your thoughts?
I think we'll get a bluray. I doubt it'll be released on DVD/BR until fall. When they said released during the end of summer, I think they meant in theaters.
I think we'll get a bluray. I doubt it'll be released on DVD/BR until fall. When they said released during the end of summer, I think they meant in theaters.
We'll get a Blu-Ray, because it was released in Japan already on Blu-Ray. I wouldn't worry about that.
Oh, I think this is worth mentioning as well. In addition to dealing with the recap episodes and with the Straw Hat Detective episodes, season 5 also officially introduces us to the term Haki when Shanks boards Whitebeard's ship. I'm really curious to see if they will use Ambition Power or leave it as Haki for the dub.
However, I’m pretty sure that Funimation will be doing a theatrical run for Strong World. Assuming they follow a similar format like they did for the FMA: Sacred Star of Milos movie, we could expect a theatrical run for Strong World around June. The FMA movie ran in theaters in January of 2012 and got a home release on April 24th, 2012, roughly 3 months after the theatrical release. With a similar release and even assuming Strong World won’t get its disc release till the end of summer around September, June is 3 months before that, lining it up with the way they did the FMA movie. Since they have probably done casting and are possibly even currently recording the movie at this point, I don’t see the movie being ready for a June theatrical run as too farfetched.
They did the same for the Trigun movie as well. However, the movies are shown in select theaters, and in most of the areas they are shown, it's the subbed version. When I went to see Trigun it was subbed as well, and I hear that the FMA movie followed a similar format with just a bit more dubbed showings than Trigun. I don't know exactly why they do this, if it's being shown dubbed in some areas, why not in all of them?
Thing is, it's still a song Avex/Toei has the rights to. They're not letting FUNimation dub any songs, not just the ones we've gone though so far.
Which is probably why the opening and endings for Toriko aren't dubbed either. But I always wondered why it seemed FUNimation would only dub the songs from Toei's shows. They've dubbed all the Dragon Ball themes (excluding Z) and they planned on dubbing all the One Piece songs too. It almost seemed as though Toei was making FUNimation do that for them, and then now it's the total opposite.
The only other non-Toei show with dubbed themes that comes to mind is Yu Yu Hakusho.
Seriously. They need to make that one a 14 episode set and make one of the other ones an 11 episode set.
You can consider the 5 Strawhat Theater shorts as one whole episode. If you do that, that's 9 actual new episodes and the 1 Strawhat Theater episode. That = 10. I'm fine with that.
The "New Content" in those episodes besides the Strawhat Theater are just repeats of material in the episodes directly preceding and following them. That's why you CAN completely skip them and NOT be lost. and that's why the Japanese DVD release did just that.
Can someone send this information over to Mike or something? Because this fixes the problem perfectly. On the whole, the set would have no more episodes than Season 1 V4 or Season 2 V6, yet just counting the "New Content" (Again, counting all 5 SH Theaters as a single ep) you have just about as much as S3V5. Everything fits and nobody is upset.
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I sent him the suggestion of a larger set to make up for the recaps. We'll see
Seriously. They need to make that one a 14 episode set and make one of the other ones an 11 episode set.
You can consider the 5 Strawhat Theater shorts as one whole episode. If you do that, that's 9 actual new episodes and the 1 Strawhat Theater episode. That = 10. I'm fine with that.
The "New Content" in those episodes besides the Strawhat Theater are just repeats of material in the episodes directly preceding and following them. That's why you CAN completely skip them and NOT be lost. and that's why the Japanese DVD release did just that.
Preach it, Rin.
Can someone send this information over to Mike or something? Because this fixes the problem perfectly. On the whole, the set would have no more episodes than Season 1 V4 or Season 2 V6, yet just counting the "New Content" (Again, counting all 5 SH Theaters as a single ep) you have just about as much as S3V5. Everything fits and nobody is upset.
I sorta tweeted him yesterday about it, but I'll shoot a less grumpy one his way.
Guys, you have to snap out of it here a little bit. Those recap episodes are ACTUAL episodes, as in they do have at least SOME NEW CONTENT. If the skipped those they'd be skipping episodes just like 4kids did, and we don't want that do we?
And besides look at this http://www.kanahomevideo.com/one-piece-water-seven-vol-5,134,5.html. That's the French DVD release and it has the recap episodes on them. And if you look on their site, there releases are very similar to ours, almost right down to the covers, so don't feel like we're the only one's who aren't skipping them or something.
If you don't like it don't buy it. If you do that though, you're only hurting the series. That's all. Let's not lose any sleep over this people.
Guys, you have to snap out of it here a little bit. Those recap episodes are ACTUAL episodes, as in they do have at least SOME NEW CONTENT.
3 minutes of new content (Straw Hat Theater) out of a 23 minute episode is literally 13% of new content. Even in the worst-paced episodes of One Piece, they have more than 13% new content.
They are "actual" episodes in name only. They were aired when OP was moved to a new time slot to help new viewers catch on, that and the anime was ludicrously close to the manga at that point.
If the skipped those they'd be skipping episodes just like 4kids did, and we don't want that do we?
Please do not at all try to compare 4Kids' skipping to omitting 5 recaps.
4Kids skipped two arcs and merged episodes together up until Drum Island, where they finally stopped editing. 4Kids skipped content that was actually in the manga.
What I'm asking for is literally the farthest thing from that.
And besides look at this http://www.kanahomevideo.com/one-piece-water-seven-vol-5,134,5.html. That's the French DVD release and it has the recap episodes on them. And if you look on their site, there releases are very similar to ours, almost right down to the covers, so don't feel like we're the only one's who aren't skipping them or something.
What they do has nothing to do with what other countries do 
If you don't like it don't buy it.
Indeed, because the 8 episodes of real actual episodes I want on this set, I should skip on principle. That argument does not work. This isn't about losing sleep, it's simply about calling out the lameness where it's at, and asking Mike to reconsider omitting it. Some of us want to pay for episodes that actually have content, fresh content that doesn't exist on previous voyages or collections (this fact becomes incredibly relevant for Robin's flashback episode).
UPDATE: Got a response from Mike:
Not at all up to me.
Whelp, it was worth a try, anyway. Hooray double-dipping!
Perhaps while we're at it, we could ask Funi to cut out the recaps and previews for the rest of the episodes, too? It's not like they're strictly necessary when the episodes they're recapping and previewing are already on the set. That's what the Marathon feature already does, but cutting them for real would be a great way to save time and space for an extra episode, I should think.
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Wait, are people suggesting they EDIT an UNCUT release?
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To be fair, it's only the stuff we don't want.
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Wait, are people suggesting they EDIT an UNCUT release?
Uncut means there are no cuts made to the footage. The word you want is unedited.
Wait, are people suggesting they EDIT an UNCUT release?
That's not fair. I don't think anyone has seriously called for any Edits to the material as presented.
People want either those episodes treated as specials and not included in the regular rotation of episodes (Which is what Toei did themselves on the Japanese DVD release)
Or for FUNimation to give us an extra episode or two on that set to make up for the fact that 5 episodes of that set are going to be taken up by episodes that are basically glorified reruns.
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heh there was a guy that did a phantom edit to the entire marineford arc that trimed out a lot of the chaff. Imagine what a pro with pro tools could do do the series. The entire season 5 in just one volume. Think about how much money the collectors would save. Ok sarcasm mode off. Speaking of more double dipping I have an entire season 3 worth of the original voyages that I could trip off my One Piece shrine shelf. I'll trade anyone for the first English Color Walk. Any takers?
heh there was a guy that did a phantom edit to the entire marineford arc that trimed out a lot of the chaff. Imagine what a pro with pro tools could do do the series. The entire season 5 in just one volume. Think about how much money the collectors would save. Ok sarcasm mode off. Speaking of more double dipping I have an entire season 3 worth of the original voyages that I could trip off my One Piece shrine shelf. I'll trade anyone for the first English Color Walk. Any takers?
I found the first English Color Walk at a local used book store in mint condition for $2 
Needless to say I will cherish it forever, lol.
The reason the Japanese skipped those episodes was because new episodes at the time were released on single DVDs with 3 episodes apiece. Had they been included, one of their DVD volumes would have been solely devoted to 3 recap episodes while another would have had 2 recaps and one non-recap episode. A dual release like that had critical failure written all over it.
Funimation's sets containing 10+ make including those recap episodes more palatable, even if it's still a bitter pill. Also, Funimation paid the license for them, so they'll likely include them in the set one way or another.
Also note that the Japanese chronological sets skip the "Boss Luffy" episodes as well even though they're official episodes of the TV series. Funimation will likely include them chronologically their sets.
As for previews/recap prologues, those should definitely be included. Anime fans expect them, and they all contain original audio content.
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This is like someone finding a never been driven sports car that has been sitting in some old lady's garage for 20 years.
But I always wondered why it seemed FUNimation would only dub the songs from Toei's shows. They've dubbed all the Dragon Ball themes (excluding Z) and they planned on dubbing all the One Piece songs too. It almost seemed as though Toei was making FUNimation do that for them, and then now it's the total opposite.
The only other non-Toei show with dubbed themes that comes to mind is Yu Yu Hakusho.
Nah, they've dubbed non-Toei shows' songs. I remember a Toon Zone interview with Brina Palencia where she talks a bit about the process of the songs getting dubbed and whether even she's not sure what goes into deciding whether or not a given show should have dubbed songs or not.
One thing that's kinda interesting is that Negima! (a Xebec anime) had all it's songs in Japanese, but a couple years later it's remake/sequel (under a different studio, SHAFT) Negima!? (which FUNi called "Season 2", even though it wasn't) had every single one of it's songs dubbed, except for one. And it had a bunch of songs. There's also School Rumble and a bunch of others too that aren't by Toei but had dubbed songs. And even in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z Kai there's all the insert songs that never got dubbed.
I also wonder why Dragon Soul wasn't dubbed on Episode 98 of Dragon Ball Z Kai…Not even for broadcast purposes. I thought that was a sure thing since the TV-size version of that song got dubbed.
Only song I'd expect to get dubbed is Bink's Sake in Season 6 since that actually has the characters singing inside the episode. There's no way Toei would make FUNimation switch to the Japanese trackf ro like 3 whole minutes and then switch back like nothing happened. 
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Perhaps while we're at it, we could ask Funi to cut out the recaps and previews for the rest of the episodes, too? It's not like they're strictly necessary when the episodes they're recapping and previewing are already on the set. That's what the Marathon feature already does, but cutting them for real would be a great way to save time and space for an extra episode, I should think.
Watch out for falling irony.
This. I agree. The most I can ask for is 2 extra episodes. That would be enough for me.
heh there was a guy that did a phantom edit to the entire marineford arc that trimed out a lot of the chaff. Imagine what a pro with pro tools could do do the series. The entire season 5 in just one volume. Think about how much money the collectors would save. Ok sarcasm mode off. Speaking of more double dipping I have an entire season 3 worth of the original voyages that I could trip off my One Piece shrine shelf. I'll trade anyone for the first English Color Walk. Any takers?
I remember seeing that briefly. Can anyone link me to that? I'm curious by how many episodes s/he cut it.
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I remember seeing that briefly. Can anyone link me to that? I'm curious by how many episodes s/he cut it.
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=34191
He was also doing it with the newest episodes, but disappeared and stopped.
Guys, you have to snap out of it here a little bit. Those recap episodes are ACTUAL episodes, as in they do have at least SOME NEW CONTENT. If the skipped those they'd be skipping episodes just like 4kids did, and we don't want that do we?
No one wants them skipped. They just want to NOT buy a set for 30 bucks that has five episodes worth of recap material and half the usual amount of new material. They're suggesting they make the recaps specials and make this particular set 14 episodes. As Rin already said, the original Japanese DVD did just that and sold that disk as a special disk separate from the main series.
Only song I'd expect to get dubbed is Bink's Sake in Season 6 since that actually has the characters singing inside the episode. There's no way Toei would make FUNimation switch to the Japanese trackf ro like 3 whole minutes and then switch back like nothing happened.
Yeah, while I won't hold it against them if they're indeed stopping with the dubbed openings and endings forever, that song should definitely be dubbed. Not to mention they aleady have perfectly singable English lyrics for it too…
heh there was a guy that did a phantom edit to the entire marineford arc that trimed out a lot of the chaff. Imagine what a pro with pro tools could do do the series. The entire season 5 in just one volume. Think about how much money the collectors would save. Ok sarcasm mode off. Speaking of more double dipping I have an entire season 3 worth of the original voyages that I could trip off my One Piece shrine shelf. I'll trade anyone for the first English Color Walk. Any takers?
I can explain it to you, what Funimation is essentially doing by adding the episodes. But I cannot comprehend it to you.
Here's a thought, if you're so upset about the recap episodes then DON'T BUY THE SET. If you're going to complain about the price,and still buy it anyway,there's no point in whining about it.No one is forcing you to buy the set.Funimation has nothing to do with it.There's no need for a 10 page discussion whining about something you don't have to buy.
Here's a thought, if you're so upset about the recap episodes then DON'T BUY THE SET.
And miss out on 8 episodes of actual dubbed content? Nearly half the set is going to be reruns. Your solution does nothing and it's been noted more than once.
If you're going to complain about the price,and still buy it anyway,there's no point in whining about it.No one is forcing you to buy the set.
Who's complaining about the price?
Funimation has nothing to do with it.
False. The Japanese DVD releases didn't include them. I asked Mike McFarlane about it and he said changing it was beyond his control. So Funimation has everything to do with it, if not that then at the very least, something.
There's no need for a 10 page discussion whining about something you don't have to buy.
You seem to be a bit confused. Allow me to explain it:
Voyages = New dubbed One Piece. Something we all want to buy.
Collections = Compilations of new dubbed One Piece, twice the episodes at a lower cost. Something we don't have to buy, but is very convenient to buy when Voyages go out of print. Or if we enjoy going crazy with supporting One Piece.
Filler episodes = maybe we like it, maybe we don't. But it's new content.
Specials = maybe we like it, maybe we don't. But it's new content.
Recap episodes = It's not new content. It is literally the same content, same video, same audio, that we already purchased.
I hope you keep this in mind when S5 Voyage 1 has Robin's flashback, and then a summary of that flashback with the exact same audio and video in S5 Voyage 2. Enjoy it. Savor it. And treasure it 
Isn't robin's past broken up over two voyages? That's gonna suck.
Isn't robin's past broken up over two voyages? That's gonna suck.
You're right. If they release the Voyages as 12 eps each, the first two episodes of V2 will have Robin's flashback. And then literally 5 episodes later, in that very same set, that very same flashback.
Yuck.
I may be a die hard double dipping bastard that defends to the death wanting every episode but Grizzlayleslay has a point that it's an ugly situation. The One Piece anime in general has become an ugly situation. Has anyone seen the past few years of Toei animatied One Piece content? Non spoilers, but, I'm wondering where the heck all the money is going. All those Licenses to multiple countries, Toys, Figures, Online deals, theme parks, merchandice….. that money is not showing up in the quality of the anime episodes.
I'm a little confused about the point of arranging episodes if the number of sets isn't going to change. What, are people gonna buy an oversized set and then just stop in the middle? Once all the sets are in a neat little row, it's not gonna matter much where one ends and another begins.
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Saw Season 4 V4 a few weeks ago. Really enjoyed the "On The Boat" behind the scenes.
My thought on the recap episodes is just keep them in and then Funi could do commentary for each recap episode, that way those who don't want to watch the recaps get something new. Also having more behind the scenes would be great too. That would make the set a definite good deal IMO.
That's a good idea, actually. Doing commentaries on the recaps with all the straw hats in their respective episodes. Doubt it'll happen, but it's a good idea.
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You're right. If they release the Voyages as 12 eps each, the first two episodes of V2 will have Robin's flashback. And then literally 5 episodes later, in that very same set, that very same flashback.
Yuck.
I keep staring at it and realizing there's no way to cut the episodes so that we get it all on one set. It's gonna be really annoying to have to wait for episodes in the middle of a flashback…
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http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/QPzEfGCM48VmDKxUdc/browse/item/97696/4/0/0
They updated. Nothing we don't already know.
So, quick question. Has there been any talk about releasing One Piece from the switch to HD on in Blu-ray yet? Or does anime pretty much just not do that?
Also, I've officially switched to buying the Collections now instead of the Voyages. Any word on when 9 is coming out?
So, quick question. Has there been any talk about releasing One Piece from the switch to HD on in Blu-ray yet? Or does anime pretty much just not do that?
Also, I've officially switched to buying the Collections now instead of the Voyages. Any word on when 9 is coming out?
Both of your questions are answered in the very detailed FAQ I, and a few others, wrote for the first post. Because of this, I won't be answering your question but will just point you there.
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Also, I've officially switched to buying the Collections now instead of the Voyages. Any word on when 9 is coming out?
Not anytime this year.
Rightstuf added the cover. Strange to see that Funi changed the side image of Sogeking to fit the side better.
