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    • Daz
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      Bleach was confusing and dull, but one part was greatly amusing:

      Kensei: I'm not as kind as Tousen
      Hisagi: Don't you DARE Besmirch his name!!!!

      What? He didn't! He called him kind if anything! Which is more than the asshole backstabber come Penis-head come giant fly-monster deserved!
      Hisagi has a bad case of The Momo going here.

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        So, does that mean this is THE DOUBLE HEART?

        Originally Posted by John Adams

        I have always been dissatisfied, I know that. But lately I find I reek of discontentment; it fills my throat and floods my brain. Sometimes I fear there's no longer a dream but only the discontentment.

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          I… Just... What?

          The four Kages seal the 10-Tails like it is something they could do anytime with a snip of their fingers. Remember how the 3rd sacrificed himself to do the same thing to two WEAKENED 1st and 2nd Hokages? Or how Minato had to do the same thing to seal the Kyuubi? And how the 2nd was killed by around 20 ninjas, of which two had the main strength of having a FRACTION of the Kyubi's chakra?

          How the fuck are they still able to seal a creature supposedly exponential stronger than the Kyubi? Especially with such ease?! And wow, great way to make the final villain look even more ridiculous.

          And as someone already said, some of the main premises of the manga from the beginning were Sasuke's and Naruto's rivalry (especially in part 2, where it got serious) and Naruto wanting to become Hokage and how it made him so unique. Everything Sasuke did in this chapter basically killed those premises: they are not real rivals anymore because everything is good again and him becoming Hokage by normal means beyond Naruto would be ridiculous and stupid and he just turned good.

          About Bleach: good chapter, stuff happened, not much else to say. Just one thing: why does everyone and their mother now have suddenly a supersecret never mentioned Bankai and weird reasons not to use it? There are enough characters who are known to have interesting Bankai to still reveal it.

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            What can I say, called it! Sasuke will become the Hokage (or something of similar status, like Danzo) after this bullshittery is over.
            This also means that Kishi is officially a horrible mangaka, of epic proportions. The credit he had due to part one doesn't matter to me anymore, there is simply no excuse for all of this.

            Bleach, on the other hand, was okay. I don't know if Naruto simply overshadowed it in badness, but I actually enjoyed the chapter. Komamura is awesome and so is his hilarious master. Kudos Kubo, I want to see where this is going.

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              […]About Bleach: good chapter, stuff happened, not much else to say. Just one thing: why does everyone and their mother now have suddenly a supersecret never mentioned Bankai and weird reasons not to use it? There are enough characters who are known to have interesting Bankai to still reveal it.

              Ah, that bald guy also had a secret bankai, so at least it's not unprecedented.

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                  Bleach was good; one of the msot exciting chapters in a while. Have to say, I'm not convinced about the Ichigo bit. I really thought - just for a moment - that Fullbring was actually going to be important. But now . . .

                  Naruto … was bad. Really bad.

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                    Naruto will be over in 2014..

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                      ok…. i want to say just one word... LAMEEEEEEEE .... missing One Piece this week made me realize the god awful story writing these two ... now my only hope of an entertaining week depends on Toriko & Beelzebub ... Go Furuichi ... 🙂

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                        I don't care about the rest but this made the chapter for me, I fucking love this First/Madara thing Kishi has going….their faces and personalities are awesome....the reason they are enemies may be stupid but fuck I don't care....I just want more crazy faces and they screaming at one another.

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                          Sasuke wants to become Hokage now? I could see that happen only if the soon to be revealed wish of Madara to become Hokage too doesn't interfere with Obitos wish to become Hokage which could also bother Orochimarus objective: becoming Hokage.

                          Everyone becomes HOKAGE!
                          HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE!
                          HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE!
                          Everyone becomes HOKAGE!

                          And so this is the end of our story
                          And everyone became HOKAGE
                          It took from me my best friend
                          My only true pal
                          My only bright star (he became HOKAGE)

                          Well I'm gonna march on Konoha
                          Lead the fight and charge the brigades
                          There's a hero inside of all of us
                          I'll make them see everyone becomes HOKAGE

                          My father (HOKAGE!)
                          My sister (HOKAGE!)
                          My uncle and my cousin and her best friend (HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE!)
                          The gays and the straights
                          And the white and the spades

                          Everyone becomes HOKAGE!
                          My grandma and my dog 'ol blue (HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE)
                          The pope became it and so do you (HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE)
                          C'mon everybody we got quilting to do (HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE HOKAGE)
                          We gotta break down these baricades, everyone becomes
                          HOKAGEx 20

                          Preposterous I want everyone to die so that everyone can turn into zombies and than we can finally have 100% zombie apocalypse. :ninja:

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                            Konoha 11 only there for doing faces and were the hell are tenten, lee and bee?

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                            Bee was fighting the previous chapter and Lee was shown in one of the panels.
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                            What?

                            I guess it's like imagine if in some future chapter of one piece, out of the blue the crew just acted like they didn't know each other, and this was just expected to be normal, they all don't know each other and have to build up their relationships from scratch. Now you'd point out hey that makes no sense, and I'd say well if you just ignore the plothole and remember the good old days of chapter 1 romance dawn, this chapter is actually great!

                            Personally I viewed the Team Seven part as everyone is putting aside there differences for the time being. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, I don't trust you but for the time being we are fighting the same enemy. Now if after the immediate threat is taken care of and everybody just goes back to normal then I would call BS. Many things need to be talked out, explained and time needs to pass before things even could get remotely back to normal. If at all. Also what are you going to do the 4th said Sasuke is coming and he is on your side, right now who is going to oppose a former hokage's word. Well the 4th said he is alright, guess I will have to roll with it. I don't know what all the outcry for this Naruto chapter is, what title can you get other than a hokage? Can someone please tell me. There isn't one that ninjas know about, so should Sasuke say I want to be the vice hokage, I would like to be Secretary of Konoha. He wants to help the village and only title people know is hokage. So it is pretty simple to put that into words as opposed to I want to help the village in whatever method I can, I know I screwed up and betrayed everyone. Now do I agree with it, HELL NO. But I have long since put Naruto and Bleach into a vacuum nothing even matters or needs to make sense, just trying to get to the end.
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                            Bleach was confusing and dull, but one part was greatly amusing:

                            Kensei: I'm not as kind as Tousen
                            Hisagi: Don't you DARE Besmirch his name!!!!

                            What? He didn't! He called him kind if anything! Which is more than the asshole backstabber come Penis-head come giant fly-monster deserved!
                            Hisagi has a bad case of The Momo going here.

                            How are you confused?
                            Ichigo finds out his heritage, because of him knowing where he comes from he is able to find his "sword".
                            Captain is getting back to basics and training to be a regular swordsman.
                            Kensei trains one of his soilders to use his bankai.
                            What is confusing?

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                              Naruto chapter was so bad i hope that they already lost the battle and they are in the eternal genjutsu and thats why this 4 Hokages resurecting and sasuke turning good is a big old lie.

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                                I haven't read a Naruto chapter in a while, but I did now. I know he was redeemed, but what the hell, seriously.

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                                  Naruto: I WANNA BE HOKAGE
                                  Sasuke: I WANNA BE HOKAGE
                                  Konohamaru: I WANNA BE HOKAGE
                                  Orochimaru: I WANNA BE HOKAGE
                                  Harishima: I WANNA BE HOKAGE - wait…

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                                    I just dont know what to think of naruto anymore. Everything that happens is just so goddamn silly.

                                    And now sauce all of a sudden wants to be hokage so he has a reason to fight naruto at the end? Could this possibly be any more forced?

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                                      Reminder to everyone that we've been in THE HEART mode for the past six chapters

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                                        and then Akainu wanted to be pirate king.

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                                          and then Akainu magma-fisted them all.

                                          Yes, Kizu. I wholeheartedly agree with this.

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                                            Well since we're clearly in fanfic territory now. After the battle all 4 Hokages should fight to see which is the strongest. Then the winner faces the winner of the Saucegay Vs. Naruto Hokage battle.

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                                                Ichigo will be Hokage. He has Harishima cells in him.

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                                                  What am I even reading anymore? For all of how terrible Kishimoto's decisions in character design and development, they would at least be bearable if they were consistent. Sakura suddenly feels useful for having the exact same power she's had through all of part 2? Sasuke, after going crazy and vowing to be an evil dipshit from planet cock sent to destroy all troll ninja, now wants to be ninja president? Naruto just passively accepts this after hyperventilating over Sasuke's cock?

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                                                  -Why does the fourth have fox power? The fourth should not have fox power. He never even owned a fox.
                                                  -Once again, Kishi's pushing the Naruto/Sakura thing, leaving the person who sacrificed her life in a declaration of undying love for Naruto n sort of an awkward place.
                                                  -I guess I should be somewhat relieved that the other ninja are calling bullshit, but it just makes me think more about how Sasuke is setting himself up for disappointment.

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                                                    What am I even reading anymore? For all of Kishimoto's terrible decisions in character design and development, they would at least be bearable if they were consistent. Sakura suddenly feels useful for having the exact same power she's had through all of part 2? Sasuke, after going crazy and vowing to be an evil dipshit from planet cock sent to destroy all troll ninja, now wants to be ninja president? Naruto just passively accepting this after hyperventilating over Sasuke's cock?

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                                                    -Once again, Kishi's pushing the Naruto/Sakura thing, leaving the person who sacrificed her life in a declaration of undying love for Naruto n sort of an awkward place.

                                                    -I guess I should be somewhat relieved that the other ninja are calling bullshit, but it just makes me think more about how Sasuke is setting himself up for disappointment.

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                                                        What can I say, called it! Sasuke will become the Hokage (or something of similar status, like Danzo) after this bullshittery is over.
                                                        This also means that Kishi is officially a horrible mangaka, of epic proportions. The credit he had due to part one doesn't matter to me anymore, there is simply no excuse for all of this.

                                                        Bleach, on the other hand, was okay. I don't know if Naruto simply overshadowed it in badness, but I actually enjoyed the chapter. Komamura is awesome and so is his hilarious master. Kudos Kubo, I want to see where this is going.

                                                        And here i thought it has been official for at least 5 years 😆.

                                                        Well, Bleach was ok, just a regular set up chapter.

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                                                          I can't…. what.....

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                                                            Bleach was decent, it was nice to see Hitsugaya being humble instead of an arrogant kid. Also lold @ Komamura and that beast which looks similar to the one in Neverending Story

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                                                              If this is the "entertainment" we're gonna get without Oda, then this will be a long two weeks.

                                                              Bleach: First things first…..Ichigo gets sent back....dude obviously didn't think of a plan...but...huh? Now he passes? What changed? I guess….knowing more about his identity and hertiage allowed him to pick the right one? (wait, is that his hollow form?). .......uh okay?

                                                              But finally we get a sense of plot progression. What's going on in Seireitei?

                                                              -Hitsugaya opts to return to the basics of swordplay. I like that he practically admits he overused his Bankai in the past, but I find it….odd the highest ranking officer of the 10th Division needs a crash course on fundamentals. I guess because he's young and inexperienced......

                                                              -Kensei wants Hisagi to use his Bankai. I find Hisagi extremely dull, and I honestly do not care for him. But hey, at least we get Mashiro! Probably my favorite Vizard. And even though Kensei didn't insult Tousen, why is Hisagi getting so pissy? You mean we should be cheering for traitors?

                                                              -Komamura....goes into a cave and SWEET JESUS WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?! No seriously, what the hell is that?! A….mutant wolf blob??? Is Kubo about to reveal Koma's origin?.....well, I didn't think it'd be like THIS!

                                                              Not a half bad chapter.....things were really weird though.

                                                              Naruto: Team 7 my ass.

                                                              Eventually the other Hokages show up (oh god, that panel of Madara's excitement….) and seal the Juubi in a barrier of sorts. I'll be honest, that's freaking awesome. What's not awesome is what comes next. (also, the 4th has fox powers because...?)

                                                              Sasuke arrives. Thankfully people like Shikamaru, Shino, and Chouji have the sense to not fawn all over him, still remembering what he did to everyone. Too bad Sakura and Ino do not.

                                                              The whole "I'm gonna be Hokage" is perhaps one of the stupidest lines I've seen in Naruto. Why? Because it doesn't come from Naruto! Sasuke's redemption was already laughable at best, but he thinks learning of the village's skewed past qualifies him to be a leader? When he betrayed the village? When he actively plotted to destroy it? When he's essentially the anti-Naruto, in personality, upbringing, and ideals?

                                                              (at least the other ninja called bullshit on this)

                                                              groans Kishi said the final battle will be between Naruto and Sasuke. Friendly rival battle for the title of Hokage. Gag me now.

                                                              Also lol again if Sakura thinks she'll be useful.

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                                                                I can't…. what.....

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                                                                  That looks surprisingly like orochimaru.

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                                                                    seriously, are we forgetting the wolfelephant in the room?

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                                                                      Sasuke as Hokage….....
                                                                      I don't think he's ever fought to protect anyone for like 200 chapters. That's gonna be some turnaround

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                                                                        At the 2014 Hokage elections:

                                                                        Moderator: So, Sasuke, why do you want to become president of these united ninja?
                                                                        Sasuke: Well, some people were a dick to my people in the past, so now I kind of want to change it.
                                                                        Moderator: But weren't you a dick to everyone here, like, within the year?
                                                                        Sasuke: SHUT UP I HATE YOU YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD

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                                                                          seriously, are we forgetting the wolfelephant in the room?

                                                                          At first I thought it was Yamamoto's ghostface haunting Komamura.

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                                                                            Outside of focusing on Hitsugaya a bit too much (or at all), it wasn't that bad. We got back to the king realm, resolved the arc with the Sword Midget (is that what we call the guy ?) and the ending was generaly out of nowhere and it looks like Kubo actualy will adress Komamura's origin.

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                                                                              …..Good gosh, that Naruto chapter was awful. Is it possible to use the 'heart' rating another time?

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                                                                                  OK, I'll give it to you Kubo, I'm moderately interested in that appeared-from-nowhere, rude-looking giant dog

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                                                                                    it looks like Kubo actualy will adress Komamura's origin.

                                                                                    I dunno…..having a giant wolf....thing in the predominantly human Soul Society is bound to require a long-winding explaination that will make the afterlife have less sense and less cohesion (a million years, anyone?)

                                                                                    Still, I have to agree. It's one of the biggest Bleach mysteries....well, that I'm actually curious to see.

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                                                                                      This part was amazing I don't care that the rest of the chapter sucks…I love these two to death. Look at him so happy :3

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                                                                                        So let me think for a second…

                                                                                        In Bleach the main hero just heard that his mother was really killed by the guy Ichigo wanted to kill anyway, so the only thing this flashback give the hero was another reason. Then the deus ex machina boobs show up and take Ichigo back to the place where he shouldn't be able to go back and somehow he learned, in a few hours, that the killer sword-humans wanted a handshake, because that's how you really judge personality and whatever and his new sword looks like him with a mask and we should just say "fuck off" to the previous guy Ichigo had in his sword. Also, the kid is back, because fangirl bait, and he's emo now because he's useless without his bankai and the fox guy meets his, if I read that correcty, grandfather and this series doesn't make any sense, everyone does things that 95% of the time don't have any logical point.

                                                                                        In Naruto the one thing that made the main hero sort of okay, that he wanted to become the strongest ninja with hard work and no skill, has been later on overshadowed by another guy with even less skill ut even more hard working - Rock Lee. Then the hero somehow got bullshit magical powers a few times, so that right now if you asked him "what about hard work" he'd just laugh in your face and go destroy the world with his Ninetales Pokemon. And the hero's BFF shows up after nearly killing a lot of people the hero likes and suddenly no one's angry at him and now he wants to be the strongest ninja, because fuck the reason his brother left him and now somehow the female part of the team that didn't have any role, and I mean ANY AT ALL, since she fought the puppet guy is somehow important right now and she somehow thinks she can help everyone fight and she didn't explain how can she do something right now that she couldn't have done before the BFF arrived. Also, there are zombie strong ninjas who somehow, just because they are Hokage, can get together and form a seal to make the big bad monster go away for a while and it somehow takes the four of them, because they are strong ninjas. And now's my question - why didn't the strong Kae guys from all of the villages perform this seal before, when they fought the bad guy? I THINK they MAY be strong ninjas, all of them, from other villages.

                                                                                        So TL;DR I'd like to go now, I need to punch someone repeatedly in the face because it makes me angry that there are people who like this ninja comic thing, and not in a ironic way.

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                                                                                          Wow, this naruto chapter seems like terrible fanfiction. I knew that the end would be shit but this still raised the bar with deus ex machinae and asspulls everywhere.

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                                                                                            @Sarfallet:

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                                                                                            I laughed way too much and too hard at this picture.My sides hurt.

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                                                                                              -Why does the fourth have fox power? The fourth should not have fox power. He never even owned a fox.

                                                                                              Because he sealed half the Kyubi's chakra within himself.

                                                                                              The only issue there I see is about Ying and Yang Chakra, of which Minato should have the other half that Naruto does not have and thus it seems weird that he looks just like Naruto since I remember there being a major difference between Ying and Yang chakra which I cannot be bothered to look up because I am currently too afraid of myself remembering all this shit.

                                                                                              Seriously, out of the several explanations of people having tailed beast powers (remember how eating fox meat can give you those powers?), this is probably the least bullshit case. People were even wondering in this thread back when Minato was released what happened to the other half of the Kyubis chakra.

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                                                                                                I'm just laughing at both chapters right now.

                                                                                                If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. - _Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

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                                                                                                  and it looks like Kubo actualy will adress Komamura's origin.

                                                                                                  Kubo must be in a mood … whose ready for more flashbacks?!?!

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                                                                                                    After hundreds,hundreds of chapters of Sasuke drama,having this kind of reconcilation,not to mention this kind of resolution,is downright criminal.

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                                                                                                      Looking at Minato's fox form again I can't help but see a bigger version of Naruto. There's no creativity whatsoever and it's essentially nothing but a copy of what we've seen several times already. It also seems like the Kyuubi doesn't remember the grudge he held against Minato back then, his desire to kill him and whatnot. But seeing a ferocious beast in the Kyuubi is futile anyway since he turned into a giant tsundere puppy.

                                                                                                      On another note- I don't read Bleach but that dog/wolf at the top of the page looks nicely drawn.

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                                                                                                        Extremely entertaining chapters this week!

                                                                                                        I'm actually pleasantly surprised the captains who lost their bankais are at the very least being proactive about getting back in the game. And lol at Mashiro being "Super Lieutenant." Hisagi's new captain is a massive dick though ("Don't think I won't kill you!!" "Uh, you kinda can't kill me because you need my bankai, dumbass")

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