I must have read it wrong. I thought that Orochimaru made the Edo too strong for Tobirama to escape, but Hashirama was strong enough. (probably because it was strengthened with his cells.)
Nardo and Bleh Thread III: Naruto is a terrible terrible manga
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Yeah, so Bleach is also out now.
Naruto - it wasn't… bad. It was just a little weird, how they played the emotions of these guys. I don't think I can pick on anything here, maybe, oh I don't know, THAT THIS MANGAS NAME IS NARUTO?! I mean, why every piece of history, every interesting character - EVERYONE we meet fights with Sasuke and not Naruto? Yeah, the hero fights the big bad currently, but it's Sasuke who lately gets all the shit - he fought the freakin' Raikage! I know we needed to meet this guys sooner or later and get to know the history, but it would be so much better if it also had the main hero there somehow, you know, also learning. The most he got was catching all of the Pokemon with the power of Bullshit Knowing Their Names. So yeah, the chapter wasn't so bad, it just falls apart in the bigger picture.
Bleach - okay, Kubo had his marriage sex and now he's back to the old Bleach, the shitty Bleach with huge panels, no plot development (this fight had, what, 3 or 4 chapters?), nothing. The only thing we learned and was a really good plot element was how the people with the Kenpachi title do everything to enjoy fighting as long as they can - either by healing or limiting their powers. This was a genius idea and it doesn't fall apart at the basics - we met Kenpachi when he had his bells, his eyepatch etc. and we know Unohana was awesome at healing, so yeah, it's kinda okay. But my questions is - why the fuck we never saw Unohana fight before? This is the bad part - what Kubo said now about the Kenpachis is a great thing, but it doesn't make any sense if you look at Unohana as a whole character, everything we learned about her before this arc. So yeah, good job, Kubo, you tried, but it's still a big piece of information that's not exactly perfect with what you created.
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That Bleach chapter was such a huge waste of space and made the fight end so abruptly. Am I the only one who feels like this whole thing was pointless? And I still can't buy that Unohana is this psycho killer. A person with extreme bloodlust is the last kind of person who can convincibly hide their true personality.
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Naruto play-by-play:
- wasting time, wasting time, we're dragging it oooooooout~
- OMG DBZ SUPER KI RELEASE
- wasting time, wasting time, we're dragging it oooooooout~
- "I'm on Sasukes side". Fuck you Orochimaru, you used to be cool.
- Hashirama plot device cells strike again! How the hell do cells beef up the zombie jutsu? Because Orochimaru took the body of a pathetic fodder setsu that just happened to be there?
- 4/5ths through the chapter: Oh right! The question from last weeks cliffhanger! Well, let me launch into another serialization-extending uneccessary flashback…
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"Itachi is a greater shinobi than I am"
Kishi just can't help himself.
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Bleach:
Blllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.
Fight choreography is craptacular, And WTF at Unohanas bankai.
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@The:
Naruto play-by-play:
- wasting time, wasting time, we're dragging it oooooooout~
- OMG DBZ SUPER KI RELEASE
- wasting time, wasting time, we're dragging it oooooooout~
- "I'm on Sasukes side". Fuck you Orochimaru, you used to be cool.
- Hashirama plot device cells strike again! How the hell do cells beef up the zombie jutsu? Because Orochimaru took the body of a pathetic fodder setsu that just happened to be there?
- 4/5ths through the chapter: Oh right! The question from last weeks cliffhanger! Well, let me launch into another serialization-extending uneccessary flashback…
You could give your opinion without being so smug, its getting pretty tiring
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Oh by the way about Naruto…
I find it very and very inconsistent in power levels for a character http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/620/5 who has a scene like this (and it might be he is not at full power) can be overcome by 20 ninjas. He raised his one finger and everyone including Sasuke was "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? SUCH HUGE POWER EXISTS?". One finger raised, so it is possible he has more to show and there is a chance even in this godly state he isn't at full power because of Edo Tensei.
Dude what the fuck are those cloud ninjas? And when Second died he had Third and Danzou with him? Seriously? This thick-headed man gave that decision?
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Um, that chakra shockwave thingy was the first's doing.
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Um, that chakra shockwave thingy was the first's doing.
Are you sure? It seemed to me as if, firstly, Tobirama raised up his finger and we get some vibrations and his intent is enough to scare the hell out of them but right after that Hashirama adds his chakra to the scene then the sum of both of their chakra or Hashirama's alone cracks the environment?
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I enjoyed naruto.
Bleach. bankai's mean nothing anymore.
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@Myu:
Are you sure? It seemed to me as if, firstly, Tobirama raised up his finger and we get some vibrations and his intent is enough to scare the hell out of them but right after that Hashirama adds his chakra to the scene then the sum of both of their chakra or Hashirama's alone cracks the environment?
No no it was the first. He was intimidating his brother that's all that was.
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So how exactly did Unohana's bankai work?
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@The:
Bleach:
Blllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.
Fight choreography is craptacular, And WTF at Unohanas bankai.
Did we really end on the same cliffhanger as last week?
So her Shikai = Magical Healing Stomach Acid Whale… Next logical step for bankai is = ????!!!?!?! I don't know what I'm looking at.
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Next week: Unohana cannot heal herself…
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Well, whatever. My point still stands either way. He raised a finger and all other people witnessed a level which shocked them. And we know how strong that 'all other people' is.
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Not a bad Naruto chap. Nothing really happened, nothing was really revealed but the talking heads didn't bore me in the least.
Bleach was slight disappointment. I hope Kubo doesn't think he's making either of them more badass. He has Ken beat arguable the strongest living captain for a title and he still hasn't learned his damn shikai. Plus her bankai apparently didn't change anything in the fight other than push Ken pass a certain restriction so he'd be strong enough to kill her.
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Bleach was crap. I don't understand what Unohana's bankai was, nor why Kenpachi hasn't unlocked his shikai yet.
Naruto was decent, i like the 1st, and at least we know Kishi can't top the shittiness of the last chapter ( i hope )
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What the hell was Unohana's Bankai supposed to be? Turn her sword and the background black? Make her and Kenpachi see each other as decaying skeletons? What?!
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What a bunch of ignorants. If Kubo didn't show Unohara bankai it's because Kenpachi will receive it from her so he will use it later.
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@Myu:
Oh by the way about Naruto…
I find it very and very inconsistent in power levels for a character http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/620/5 who has a scene like this (and it might be he is not at full power) can be overcome by 20 ninjas. He raised his one finger and everyone including Sasuke was "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? SUCH HUGE POWER EXISTS?". One finger raised, so it is possible he has more to show and there is a chance even in this godly state he isn't at full power because of Edo Tensei.
Dude what the fuck are those cloud ninjas? And when Second died he had Third and Danzou with him? Seriously? This thick-headed man gave that decision?
Two of those ninjas were Ginkaku and Kinkaku. The two guys who ate meat of the 9-tailed fox, had weapons of the Sage of the Six Paths and stuff. I think the others were their squad or something, too lazy to look it up, so go figure their power levels.
For Unoharas Bankai, I guess it makes everyone around her dissolve into blood and meat or something like that. Makes sense considering the name of her sword ("Minazuki", "Release of the body") as well. Just don't think about the whole melting thing as a metaphor and remember Unohara heals Kenpachi all the time (so basically after he became nothing but bones in this case) and the chapter starts to make sense.
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Bleach was awful.
I liked Naruto this week, the first Hokage is cool I like the guy but once again the fucking war is going to be postponed even more chapters, end this crap already.
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Remember when Bankais looked like this?
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-579-14/bleach/chapter-125.html
or this?
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-595-4/bleach/chapter-141.html
Or this?
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-624-17/bleach/chapter-170.htmlUnohanas bankai has the outrageous ability of Being Really Easy To draw. Much like Sasakibes. Such artistic development.
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@No:
Youd'd have known that if you'd have checked your email :P
When did you write? I haven't recieved anything, far as I can see
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Add the Love Cancer blog to your sig, man
Whenever I get the time to make a contribution to it, I will. Until I've added to it myself, it wouldn't feel right advertising it.
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@The:
Remember when Bankais looked like this?
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-579-14/bleach/chapter-125.html
or this?
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-595-4/bleach/chapter-141.html
Or this?
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-624-17/bleach/chapter-170.htmlUnohanas bankai has the outrageous ability of Being Really Easy To draw. Much like Sasakibes. Such artistic development.
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When did you write? I haven't recieved anything, far as I can see
On the 8th I believe.
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Hey…Did you know...I like fighting?
THIS. IS.
SPARTAFIGHTING!Bloody sword was sort of neat…But holy balls too many closeups.
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Naruto is quite good until the last page which say "Uchiha and Senju" OMG I feels like Kishi casted Izanami on me that make this crap story about Uchiha and Senju over and over again in endless loop.
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Love Cancer blog
Wait what?
You guys started up a Nardo blog?Google search yields me nothing.
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Wait what?
You guys started up a Nardo blog?Google search yields me nothing.
I think http://thelovecancer.blogspot.cz/ is the link :ninja:
and about Bleach… I just can say "sick chapter" after all LOL
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What a bunch of ignorants. If Kubo didn't show Unohara bankai it's because Kenpachi will receive it from her so he will use it later.
How does unlocking Kenpachi's strength give him Unohana's Bankai? And not only is that nearly unprecedented, it also makes no sense considering how Zanpakuto work, and would mean Kenpachi would neglect his existing Zanpakuto even further.
Hey…Did you know...I like fighting?
THIS. IS.
SPARTAFIGHTING!Bloody sword was sort of neat…But holy balls too many closeups.
It's quite possibly the most blatantly empty and stretched out chapter from Kubo yet. Unlike some of his "better" lazy chapters, it's also an extremely simple matter to fix the formatting: give me a picture editor and I could do it. I'd say I could fit it all into…10 pages max? And what's worse is that this chapter really needed the dialogue and play-by-play, to explain Unohana's Bankai and prevent the fight from ending so abruptly.
Naruto is quite good until the last page which say "Uchiha and Senju" OMG I feels like Kishi casted Izanami on me that make this crap story about Uchiha and Senju over and over again in endless loop.
Forget "love cancer," Naruto has been a long-time victim of "plot tumors."
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Now for the actual reviews…..
Bleach: Obviously my last post says it all, but seriously…...what the heck, Kubo?
I could barely tell what was going on half the time, and all that happened was more of Kenpachi and Unohana hacking at each other. It's....just dull at this point. This whole fight isn't even bettering Kenpachi's fighting skills....no zanpakutou connections, just FIGHT TO THE DEATH
We get it, Kubo. The two of them love to fight! Hooray! But while I can understand Kenny's methods to prolong fighting, I can't buy Unohana's. Maybe it's the fact that she's only been psychotic for like, five chapters, but "healing myself to prolong the fighting" is ridiculous. You didn't become a healer because you realized what a bloodthirsty maniac you were and you wanted to help society? We've never seen her fight in this whole manga before!
And again, her Bankai…....I can't understand what it's supposed to be. It's simply lazy design. How disappointing that this happens to one of the strongest characters in the manga!
Also......what happened at the end? Who won? Kenpachi? Unohana? I can't tell.
Naruto: Tch.
I enjoy the dynamics of the Hokages…..the First is more reserved, logical, and less prone to rage while the Second is more hostile and quick to react. Even through that, this chapter just felt like Kishi's dragging things out.
The Second gets pissed, First calms him down, Sasuke asks questions....blah blah blah. Why must all the important figures in the world interact with damn Uchihas? Can we get back to the war, concerning the nations of the world, please?
Orochimaru, probably the only entertaining villain left....lost his charm. No nefarious plots? You're only willing to follow Sasuke's path? Urgh.
I also had no idea what happened in that flashback. Somebody help me out, I'm lost.
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Naruto: Wow. We certainly did just spend 15 pages on absolutely nothing, didn't we? Actually, even those last few pages with the Hashirama/Madara fight were probably pointless too.
Bleach: Decent, I guess. Except what the hell was up with Unohana's bankai? And what did she mean that Kenpachi couldn't understand why she mastered Kaidou (healing)? The way she explained sounded pretty straightforward to me.
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I LIKE…
FIGHTING!!
DUR HURRRR
Yeah, we got it, Kubo. These two like fighting. You don't have to make whole chapters reinforcing that, it's not difficult to grasp.
I love how pretentious this shit is, for something as basic as an "UOOO FIGHTING IS AWESOME" slugfest he sure is depicting it like he's struck on some font of deep symbolic gold
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I think http://thelovecancer.blogspot.cz/ is the link :ninja:
and about Bleach… I just can say "sick chapter" after all LOL
Thanks for the link.
In other news,now I have one more blog to follow…:ninja:
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The First is as powerful as expected. Being able to control his brother with his presence only.
But holy fuck, what's up with those retarded memes at the end of every chapter? Are they being created by a retarded horse?
And they're always the same fucking memes, too. It's like the Mangapanda council of evil manga warlords goes out to pick the shittiest memes they can to spam over and over
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Now for the actual reviews…..
Bleach: Obviously my last post says it all, but seriously…...what the heck, Kubo?
I could barely tell what was going on half the time, and all that happened was more of Kenpachi and Unohana hacking at each other. It's....just dull at this point. This whole fight isn't even bettering Kenpachi's fighting skills....no zanpakutou connections, just FIGHT TO THE DEATH
We get it, Kubo. The two of them love to fight! Hooray! But while I can understand Kenny's methods to prolong fighting, I can't buy Unohana's. Maybe it's the fact that she's only been psychotic for like, five chapters, but "healing myself to prolong the fighting" is ridiculous. You didn't become a healer because you realized what a bloodthirsty maniac you were and you wanted to help society? We've never seen her fight in this whole manga before!
And again, her Bankai…....I can't understand what it's supposed to be. It's simply lazy design. How disappointing that this happens to one of the strongest characters in the manga!Also......what happened at the end? Who won? Kenpachi? Unohana? I can't tell.
N.
The bolded statement makes zero sense at all. You're basically saying,"I thought Unohana was healer because she wanted to help out society, even though the character hasn't said that but she instead had a more ulterior motive but since I hate bleach what I think is superior to whats actually going on"
Look man I get that you're probably obligated to hate on bleach and what not but some of your points don't make sense you're basically complaining about learning more about a character that we didn't know much about but was foreshadowed to be powerful.And from how I saw it Kenpachi won since Unohana says that he sword wasn't meant to kill Kenpachi but to make him stronger.
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The bolded statement makes zero sense at all. You're basically saying,"I thought Unohana was healer because she wanted to help out society, even though the character hasn't said that but she instead had a more ulterior motive but since I hate bleach what I think is superior to whats actually going on"
Look man I get that you're probably obligated to hate on bleach and what not but some of your points don't make sense you're basically complaining about learning more about a character that we didn't know much about but was foreshadowed to be powerful.And from how I saw it Kenpachi won since Unohana says that he sword wasn't meant to kill Kenpachi but to make him stronger.
You'd think a person with insane murderous urges wouldn't be able to masquerade as the complete opposite 100% of the time, especially during the two extended wars with the fate of the world at stake
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The bolded statement makes zero sense at all. You're basically saying,"I thought Unohana was healer because she wanted to help out society, even though the character hasn't said that but she instead had a more ulterior motive but since I hate bleach what I think is superior to whats actually going on"
Look man I get that you're probably obligated to hate on bleach and what not but some of your points don't make sense you're basically complaining about learning more about a character that we didn't know much about but was foreshadowed to be powerful.….What? I don't just "hate Bleach" for the sake of it. Maybe my point came out wrong, or maybe it was the mangapanda translation, but...
Unohana's thought says she healed herself to continue the fighting, correct? Exactly how is that a strong reason why she became who she was? It almost seems....selfish. Like she became a healer solely to get hurt more and continue to fight. It's not a valid 180.
Just look at her previous appearances, all of which she's been calm, willing to help others, including the enemy…it's not far-fetched to assume she's clearly invested in her role as Seireitei's top healer, otherwise she'd be half-assing it and getting into fights all the time. What changed her psyche and line of thought? Kid Kenpachi fought her, and then that was it?
Her psychotic side suggests she does have all this bloodlust surpressed but I repeat.....she has not fought (at all) before this point in the manga, nor has Kenpachi had any previous scene to indicate she's the first Kenpachi, the woman he admired, and by proxy, who she truly is.
Clearly it's Kubo trying to force such a revelation upon us.
I never say negative things about Bleach without there being some sort of reasoning to it. Once upon a time, I loved this series.
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You'd think a person with insane murderous urges wouldn't be able to masquerade as the complete opposite 100% of the time, especially during the two extended wars with the fate of the world at stake
Right! Further, why would she even want to? She was totally fine being her psychopathic self a few centuries ago. I'm surprised how many people are buying this reveal. Just because it has (some) actual foreshadowing (a rarity), doesn't mean it makes sense.
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The foreshadowing amounting to "If Unohana ever fought, I bet she'd kick ass".
Not "If Unohana ever fought, I bet shes a bloodthirsty fight maniac"
@Gliblord:I LIKE…
FIGHTING!!
DUR HURRRR
Yeah, we got it, Kubo. These two like fighting. You don't have to make whole chapters reinforcing that, it's not difficult to grasp.
I love how pretentious this shit is, for something as basic as an "UOOO FIGHTING IS AWESOME" slugfest he sure is depicting it like he's struck on some font of deep symbolic gold
The fact that +500 chapters in, KENPACHI is the one getting a "I like….FIGHTING!" realization chapter is the most ridiculous thing of all.
Also, all this stuff about them being the only other person to bring out he joy of fighting for the other...
Of strong people being destined to kill each other...
Um.
Shunsui.
Ukitake.
Yama-friggin-moto.What about those guys? Never wanted to take a swing a them, you fight-crazed wackos?
Nonononnonnononononono, Unohana/Zaraki is the only one strong enough for meeeeeeeeee~
Baaaaaaaaaawwwwwlllllsheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttt -
By the way,why is it that "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!"?
Strategically speaking,2 massively overpowered swordsmen would be better than one.As for the "DANGEROUS AND VOLATILE" excuse,Unohana can control herself just fine.
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By the way,why is it that "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!"?
Strategically speaking,2 massively overpowered swordsmen would be better than one.As for the "DANGEROUS AND VOLATILE" excuse,Unohana can control herself just fine.
Exactly!
Seireitei needs all the strong fighters they can get, because y'know…..the Vandereich are still lurking about? Their leader has Yama's Bankai? The stability of the universe is at sake?
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So how does Soul Society prepare for their second war against the Vandenreich (after the first one went so badly for them)? Yeah …. they want to pit their best healer against Zaraki in death match
(inevitable conversation)
Kyōraku: What the **** Kenpachi you weren't suppose to kill her!!! What the **** are we suppose to do if those guys attack again? Huh what? Use all the other no name nothings in 4th Division and hope to SOUL KING they know what they're doing?!?!? No, we're ****** screwed that's what's going to happen!!! Unohana was OUR.BEST.HEALER.PERIOD.AND.YOU..KILLED.HER.YOU.SON.***!!!!!!! -
So how does Soul Society prepare for their second war against the Vandenreich (after the first one went so badly for them)? Yeah …. they want to pit their best healer against Zaraki in death match
To be fair…Soul Society's MO seems to be to put the healers in an isolated room until after the war is over.
Bleach was horrific.
Any bets on how long this new flashback will be for Naruto? I'm just curious when Kishi will drop the final nail on the coffin for Orochimaru's "redemption" by saying why he wanted to "destroy" Konoha.
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To be fair…Soul Society's MO seems to be to put the healers in an isolated room until after the war is over.
Yeah,they've got the wierdest idea about FIELD medics.
Between this,"ONE KENPACHI MUST DIE FOR DUBIOUS REASONS EVEN THOUGH WE TRAGICALLY SHORT ON MANPOWER AND FIGHTING STRENGTH" and other examples of their stupidity,I still wonder how these dumb fucks managed to last a whole million years.
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The Highlander plot point is so retarded. Who made up this rule? What's the point in it?
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Any bets on how long this new flashback will be for Naruto? I'm just curious when Kishi will drop the final nail on the coffin for Orochimaru's "redemption" by saying why he wanted to "destroy" Konoha.
Here's holding out hope Orochimaru is just planning to double-cross everyone. I mean really, he's practically been handed victory on a silver platter. With the Kages on his side he has enough power to greatly influince the war, if not tear everyone apart after they're exhausted from fighting Madara, Obito and the Juubi.
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It's been a long time since I've completely enjoyed a Naruto chapter.
As for Bleach… c'mon Kubo, don't slip back to your old ways
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Hey, we're at the start of a Naruto flashback. I'm actually looking forward to it!
Bleach meanwhile, is cheating. This chapter would have been a great ending to a story arc…if the story arc ever existed in the first place. Two people just walked into a room, crossed swords, and one dies. Maybe if we knew some of the things revealed in this fight earlier, this chapter would be better.
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It's been a long time since I've completely enjoyed a Naruto chapter.
As for Bleach… c'mon Kubo, don't slip back to your old ways
Honestly, I don't even see this "improvement" that everyone else seems to be seeing. Bleach has ranged from Mediocre to Abysmal since the Hueco Mundo arc. Nothing in this current arc has shown me otherwise.
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The Highlander plot point is so retarded. Who made up this rule? What's the point in it?
And why has it not been in effect until now?
Hundreds of years of Soul society:
Unohana: Hey.
Kenpachi: Hey. 'SupLowest point of SS, extreme crisis, every soldier needed:
Kenpachi: MORTAL ENEMY! DIEEEEEE
Unohana: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE