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    Nardo and Bleh Thread III: Naruto is a terrible terrible manga

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    • Silverblade
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      What I get from this chapter is that Uchihas were a bunch of bronies and Tobirama wasn't having any of that because he was more of a Dan Vs kind of guy.

      Also, in the world of Naruto, What Is Love perpetually plays in the background, but that might be just my impression.

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        @choperman:

        Does Kishi even remember that the third hokage was called the God of Shinobi, not the first (or at least this is the first time he was called such)

        EDIT: Also wouldn't this be Orochimaru's ideal time to take sasuke's body

        he's got his arms back, the first Hokage who was stronger then Madara, the second who's the best water jutsu specialist ever, the third Hokage who in his old age, beat both of those guys and orochimaru…. BY HIMSELF!! and the fourth hokage who's supposed to be uber strong, and he's Naruto's Dad

        I think if there was any time to kill sasuke and take his body now would be it

        I don't know how much this has to do with it, but Sasuke doesn't have the curse mark anymore. (referring to the bit about oro taking Sasuke's body)

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          Yeah, so why didn't Hashirama act all goofy the first time he was brought back to life? (….yes...the first time)

          He may as well have. The situation was just as dire then.

          Orochimaru removed his personality that time.

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            The first part of the chapter was alright, I like the first Hokage and Tsunade as a child was cute.
            But then…

            WHAT THE FUCK?
            WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!

            The power of love strikes again!
            Really Kishi, you really outdid yourself this time. Bravo.
            Great job taking your manga on a new level of ridiculousness!

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              @Silverblade:

              What I get from this chapter is that Uchihas were a bunch of bronies

              Oh god, how much I love this comment…

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                Orochimaru removed his personality that time.

                well not right off the bat there was a few seconds where they had there personality but then Orochmaru got bored

                I really want Kishi to remember that the third hokage was said to be the most powerful Hokage and have him show that off a little, but it seems he's to interested in wood jutsu and magical eyes for some god damn reason

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                  Im still wondering how nearly all of these ninja's died in the prime of their life somehow, yet we only learned of how a few of them died. Are we led to believe only hiruzen and chiyo managed to live past their prime among all these ninja's?

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                    Yeah, so why didn't Hashirama act all goofy the first time he was brought back to life? (….yes...the first time) He may as well have. The situation was just as dire then.

                    Pedomaru blocked off most of their emotions n free will

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                      Sure, First, you're worried about the village because you "spoiled Tsunade rotten." I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that she's a woman. Nope, not at all.

                      Cosign on the outrage over the rest of the chapter.

                      I would've liked it if Sarutobi had asked why Jiraiya didn't succeed him as Hokage, just to see if Orochimaru is also aware of the fact that Jiraiya got killed (which he shouldn't be). And, as others before me have wondered, does Minato's revival mean the half of the Kyuubi's chakra he sealed in himself is also released? Let's see if Madara and Obito's "love" saves them from getting wrecked by Ultra-Jesus-mode Naruto (and him alone).

                      Also, looks like Haddaway finally has his answer: Love is magic eyeballs…

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                        Orochi said this time he didn't supress their personality (probably because they were revived for an informal friendly reunion instead of fighting).

                        @Gliblord:

                        Orochimaru removed his personality that time.

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                        Pedomaru blocked off most of their emotions n free will

                        Yeah, thanks, okay, I got it.

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                          Normally I'd say that it's beating a dead horse doing the Naruto and Sasuke are gay joke, but eh…I'm too lazy to defend the fact that they clearly aren't gay. That would require me to care about the manga, more then I do...

                          I'll pass.

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                          I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

                          You won this week Fairy Tail.

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                            Lmao. Oh wow. I loved the first half of this chapter. I was dying when the 1st kept getting yelled at.

                            That's pretty much the best scene in a long time. Lately when humor was thrown in, it was horribly out of place. But this time I think anything making light of Sasuke's needs and situations is a plus. He doesn't deserve stoic drama.

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                              Emo Ninjas.

                              They exist now.

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                                So who was it who argued for the Uchihas' extermination? The Second? Looks like they've certainly been validated.

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                                  The older Hokages were always talked about as like mythic beings. It still seems off to me that the First Hokage has only been dead for about 50 years. Which means the village has only been around that long which means that most of the entire history of the ninja world that we know only takes place within the last 50 years or so. Before that no one really did anything except fight with what im guessing was extremely poor quality ninjutsu and this is only a couple centuries after the Sage died and before that there was no ninjutsu and everything was being ruined/created by the 10 tailed beast which means the entire world naruto takes place in has only been around for like 400 or so years.

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                                    Kishi somehow made me hate the Uchiha even more by making them genetically predisposed to be whiny, emo douchebags.

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                                      Hahaha, perfect title.

                                      I'm practically drowning in love cancer after this week's chapter.

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                                        some Bleach 4th level fan theory stuff..

                                        ! Ok here is a theory, not sure its a crack theory because i have quite a few points that accredit my theory imo but here it goes.
                                        ! JUHA BACH IS THE ORIGINAL SOUL KING. Ichigos relationship to juha bach; we know that ichigo has quincy blood and his mother was a quincy. Also juha referred to ichigo as "My son", and wanted to "reeducate" him. Also Haschwald looked pretty upset when juha was beating up ichigo. This leads me to believe that YES ichigo is somehow indeed related to Juha Bach (either as a son or a descendant) and that ichigo has some juha bach in him too. This is solidified by the fact that ichigos FGT form and Zangetsu look like juha. There is indeed a resemblance! So yes people Juha Bach's power does lie deep within ichigo. So its safe to assume that the FGT form is derived from juha bachs power.
                                        ! Next part; The Hogyoku has part of the soul kings power. Remember Aizens evolution forms. He went through the chrysalis stage and became a butterfly. The soul king awoke from his slumber (just like a butterfly) and his eyes resemble those of aizen. Coincidence, i think not. The hogyoku was created by urahara. Recently in the manga it has been stated that urahara has been to the royal palace in the past and did some research. So urahara probably analyzed the soul king's power and tried to recreate it. If the hogyoku senses the hearts of those around it and materializes their deepest desire, the soul king can do the same thing. In fact the soul king probably uses this power to keep the balance of soul, basically do his job lol. In order for aizen to kill the soul king he had to be on the same dimension! So he acquired part of his power from the hogyoku, and therefore becoming an ascended being, making him confident and capable enough to kill the soul king.
                                        ! With all that being said heres where everything comes together. Ichigo in his FGT form was standing on a higher dimension then butterfly form aizen or "soul king form", that same form that would make aizen capable of killing the soul king. See where im going? Does that mean that the power of juha bach is standing on a higher level then the power of the soul king? But there is no level higher then the soul king himself, its impossible! if thats the case then who is juha bach? ?????
                                        ! For my previous 3 theory's to make sense and for EVERYTHING to be connected, there can only be one answer to this question…..
                                        Juha Bach is the former soul king!!!!
                                        ! Yammamoto founded his own academy of shinigami 2000 years ago. During that time Juha and his quincy clan where in power and juha was the soul king, ruling over the world, which explains why everyone is calling him his majesty. But his rule was evil as the world was slowly going on the verge of destruction because of quincy powers crumbling the balance of souls. Yammamoto never acknowledged Juha and decided to rebel against his rule. 1000 years ago, Yammamoto along with his subordinates decided to raid the soul palace and overthrow juha bach. They were merciless and murdered all the Quincies. Just like terrorists trying to overthrow a government. Yammamoto and boys succeeded, and the soul society was formed. Although he never acknowledged him as the soul king, Yammamoto respected juha bach and decided not to kill him, and banished him.(Into the shadow realm?) Now Juha Bach is back to reclaim his throne, restore the former glory of his clan and take down his successor.
                                        ! Theres probably alot of loose ends, but we know the Juha Bach needs to be powerful enough to take down squad zero and the soul king.
                                        ! This theory is credited to bleach1234567777 on youtube. such a great theory i had to forward it to the forums.

                                        ! Intresting, I have red a lot of Japanese Bleachers have very simmilar theories. Also unlike many forigen Bleachers they seam to take Juha Bach's "My Son" statment mutch more serius then the rest of us. (I have barly seen anyone who think it's just methaphorical speaking!)
                                        I see nothing that goes aganst this theory of his and I think it's quite possible that Kubo might do somthing like this
                                        I have been thinking somthing like this theory as well. I am still going for the theory of Ichigo being somwhat not Juha Bach's biological son but rather is "spirit" son in a sense.
                                        I remember in Ichigo's fight against Jackie, the symbol Ichigo where trowin at Jackie is the same shape as the Quincy medallions (See my signature pic)
                                        And Bach does resemble Zangetsu a lot, somthing I have a feeling being more than kubo's recycling designs… Plus his sword has a simmilar desing to Ichigo's new Shikai sword Him beeing the former Soul King woud certanly make things very intresting in my eyes! x3

                                        ! Japanese BLEACHers take the "my son" line serious, cos… lol ...they all recognize the relationship being setup.
                                        ! The most direct reference would be, the Hecatonchires from Greek mythology, who were sons of Chronos (the God of the Material World, who challenged/overthrew his father, the God of Heaven) said to be more powerful than Chronos himself! (quick note; their names mean: "100 handed", "vigorous", "furious", and "big-limbed"... sound familiar?).
                                        ! What's being setup here is essentially, the story whereby the "Son of Man" (i.e., a mortal) takes on the mind/power of the "God of Heaven" (thus becoming the "Son of God"), and rebels against the powers of the mortal world (represented by Ywachi aka YHWH aka Chronos aka Saturn/Satan).
                                        ! [Note that Chronos/YHWH is the material world, his is the LOGOS "I exist, in order that I continue existing" (aka "I AM; THAT I AM"); and everything existing under/within him has this as a fundamental part of their existence. Creatures outside of the material world take their existence for granted, hence their somewhat "uncaring" presentation.]
                                        ! Back to the point, this is then where the ambiguity regarding Ichigo comes into play: this "Son of Man" who is also the "Son of God" can rightfully be claimed by either Chronos or Ouranos: he (Ichigo) is the direct offspring of Chronos, who is the womb/"matrix" through which Ouranos chose to create/craft him (Ichigo). Within the story world, that'd probably make Ichigo's mom Ywachi's daughter.
                                        ! Now, where does Isshin fit in? Isshin is the 1st "Son of God", whose advent was necessary in order to create the ideal one, Ichigo. Proof is in the name of is Zanpakutou: ENGETSU ("moon incinerator", vs. Ichigo's "moon cutter"). They are both ALPHA & OMEGA, CREATOR & DESTROYER, but Isshin likely abandoned his duties (as DESTROYER) for the sake of woman (hence his exile, hiding, and the downfall of the Shiba clan). This is something that biblical sources refer to in numerous places as well.

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                                          Ten bucks to Sasuke becoming the bringer of love and peace by the end of Naruto-

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                                            @Halfmetal-lich:

                                            Normally I'd say that it's beating a dead horse doing the Naruto and Sasuke are gay joke, but eh…I'm too lazy to defend the fact that they clearly aren't gay. That would require me to care about the manga, more then I do...

                                            I'll pass.

                                            On with you to the Kirua-and-Gon-are-clearly-gay discussions.

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                                              Uchiha are pretty much Jedi. Real original Kishi. That said, I actually enjoyed this chapter. Kishimoto can still write personalities when he tries. Hell, I even loved the joke about the Edo Tensei being too easy.

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                                                I already see it:
                                                "By the way, your son is now fighting Madara and your student while the other one signed the I-am-a-failure paper."
                                                woodman "Madara?"
                                                "yep"
                                                brb gotta go and talk to the old friend.
                                                Fourth goes to talk with Nardo, though there is a slight chance of him saying "I already told him everything I wanted in the chakra message. Good work on giving him a childhood a hero deserves, Third."

                                                The First sees Madara and says that he is sorry and he always loved him. They kiss as the first rays of dawn shine over the field. Madara feels something that makes him at peace. As they start to crumble and evaporate (like a pair of gay vampires) a rainbow shines over them. Without Madara Zetsus kinda go limp and lifeless, basically becoming vegetables. And that makes Obito die and finish the conflict, since he can't go into a coma from half of his body getting veggie when such a lovely resolution of the grand battle is reached. There is no attention to Juubi, so when everyone remembers that there is a fight going on, he is just not there, just wiped from the story all together. Ninjas have 'won'.
                                                Jokes aside woodman may go to meet Madara and bring an easy, silly win through talk-no-justu.

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                                                And, oh, looks like Ichigo knows more than he is letting on and can't help but strike his signature pose: Loosely holding his sword, knees bent, with the dumbest look of shock on his face….Classic Bleach

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                                                  Dude..if you tell people, they'll knowwwww

                                                  Originally Posted by KzTxL7

                                                  I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

                                                  You won this week Fairy Tail.

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                                                    The older Hokages were always talked about as like mythic beings. It still seems off to me that the First Hokage has only been dead for about 50 years. Which means the village has only been around that long which means that most of the entire history of the ninja world that we know only takes place within the last 50 years or so. Before that no one really did anything except fight with what im guessing was extremely poor quality ninjutsu and this is only a couple centuries after the Sage died and before that there was no ninjutsu and everything was being ruined/created by the 10 tailed beast which means the entire world naruto takes place in has only been around for like 400 or so years.

                                                    Actually… Rikudou died thousands of years ago. The Sage Toads are almost 1000 years old, and even they're considering him as a myth.

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                                                      Actually… Rikudou died thousands of years ago. The Sage Toads are almost 1000 years old, and even they're considering him as a myth.

                                                      lies Rikudou is alive and will appear later in the series either as a zombie or alive hooked up to a tree. Nobody stays dead in Naruto

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                                                        So the uchihas are carebears with severe case of depression.
                                                        The kages antics was sorta entertaiming

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                                                          Isn't Tsunade like… dead?

                                                          And now Kishi show us the First acting like a retardead... Thanks grandpa.

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                                                            Isn't Tsunade like… dead?

                                                            And now Kishi show us the First acting like a retardead... Thanks grandpa.

                                                            Nah she is alive,she just split in two by a log.

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                                                              After a discussion with Glib I decided to start another sister blog for those of you who want to went in an overly intelectual way abou Naruto
                                                              http://thelovecancer.blogspot.cz/

                                                              Anyone willing to participate tell me and I'll send you an invite, provided you supply me with an e-mail adress.

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                                                                @No:

                                                                Anyone willing to participate tell me and I'll send you an invite, provided you supply me with an e-mail adress.

                                                                Count me in, although I wager I'll have fewer posts. My knowledge is lacking compared to Bleach.

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                                                                  Count me in, although I wager I'll have fewer posts. My knowledge is lacking compared to Bleach.

                                                                  Same here, man. But I imagine the Daz will give us more than enough material through his insights.

                                                                  Anyways I wrote up the first post! yay! I'ms like a humorist or something

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                                                                  Stay tuned for this subforum's upcoming Fairy Tail blog, "Natsu Sucks"

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                                                                    Count me in, although I wager I'll have fewer posts. My knowledge is lacking compared to Bleach.

                                                                    Invited.

                                                                    Also we need some new art and banner/logo for the new site. I'm open to submissions.

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                                                                    Same here, man. But I imagine the Daz will give us more than enough material through his insights.

                                                                    Anyways I wrote up the first post! yay! I'ms like a humorist or something

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                                                                    Stay tuned for this subforum's upcoming Fairy Tail blog, "Natsu Sucks"

                                                                    We could make it, but that'd probably have to wait a bit.

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                                                                      After a discussion with Glib I decided to start another sister blog for those of you who want to went in an overly intelectual way abou Naruto
                                                                      http://thelovecancer.blogspot.cz/

                                                                      Anyone willing to participate tell me and I'll send you an invite, provided you supply me with an e-mail adress.

                                                                      Now this is a blog I can stand behind.

                                                                      Who exactly is Mumbo?

                                                                      It's OFFICIAL, UsoppXNami 4ever.

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                                                                        @Sonic:

                                                                        Now this is a blog I can stand behind.

                                                                        You enjoy Bleach a bit then ? 😮

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                                                                          Glad i managed to find the forums again before the next chapters came out (what did happen with AP anyway?), i didnt want to miss out on any of the shenanigans.

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                                                                            Glad i managed to find the forums again before the next chapters came out (what did happen with AP anyway?),

                                                                            Something to do with the URL.

                                                                            i didnt want to miss out on any of the shenanigans.

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                                                                              Woot, managed to find the forum!

                                                                              So, Kakashi is an Uchia now? Douchekage mentions special chakra sprouts in their brains, so how come Kakashi could develop the mangekyo if he wasn't one of them?

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                                                                                this weeks episode of real naruto was really good both in content and animation. more effort seems to have been put in

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                                                                                  Woot, managed to find the forum!

                                                                                  So, Kakashi is an Uchia now? Douchekage mentions special chakra sprouts in their brains, so how come Kakashi could develop the mangekyo if he wasn't one of them?

                                                                                  Based on Obito's flashback, it's implied that somehow, even though it was no longer in his head, Obito's eye in Kakashi also gained Mangekyo the same day that Obito did. Makes no sense, but whatever.

                                                                                  I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                                    Same here, man. But I imagine the Daz will give us more than enough material through his insights.

                                                                                    Anyways I wrote up the first post! yay! I'ms like a humorist or something

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                                                                                    I'm always down for some bad manga overanalysis, but to do this thing justice I'm considering doing a complete reread of Naruto. Just to plunge the depths of the plotholes Kishimoto has wrought.

                                                                                    Also, yay, the forums were here all along!

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                                                                                      I'm always down for some bad manga overanalysis, but to do this thing justice I'm considering doing a complete reread of Naruto. Just to plunge the depths of the plotholes Kishimoto has wrought.

                                                                                      Also, yay, the forums were here all along!

                                                                                      Youd'd have known that if you'd have checked your email 😛

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                                                                                        @The:

                                                                                        I'm always down for some bad manga overanalysis, but to do this thing justice I'm considering doing a complete reread of Naruto. Just to plunge the depths of the plotholes Kishimoto has wrought.

                                                                                        Also, yay, the forums were here all along!

                                                                                        Add the Love Cancer blog to your sig, man

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                                                                                          I've been re-reading Naruto recently (slowly but surely), and I have to say, I really like the little bit of world-building going on in Volume 2. Team 7 actually heading out of the Leaf Village, Kakashi explaining about the ninja world and the world outside that. Zabuza arc has always been my favorite arc no matter how much I dislike Naruto nowadays 😕

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                                                                                          I'm hoping One Piece has a deus ex machina come its ending. I want to see the Thousand Sunny randomly turn into Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann through the power of courage and nakamaship.

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                                                                                            @sniperking323:

                                                                                            I've been re-reading Naruto recently (slowly but surely), and I have to say, I really like the little bit of world-building going on in Volume 2. Team 7 actually heading out of the Leaf Village, Kakashi explaining about the ninja world and the world outside that. Zabuza arc has always been my favorite arc no matter how much I dislike Naruto nowadays 😕

                                                                                            Oh yeah when kishi still had to try he created some great stuff, and that arc is easily the zenith of what the series potential could yield. Its just a shame nothing ever came close to that after

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                                                                                              A small spoiler for the Bleach chapter

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                                                                                              Translating to "you were the person who gave me joy" or something like that

                                                                                              –Fine art is the beauty of that fleeting moment of an explosion--

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                                                                                                Don't forget the little "Farewell…!" at the bottom left. That one page pretty much says it all for the chapter. There is no need to read the rest.

                                                                                                Does Kishi and Kubo have like a little contest on who can pull off the most ridiculous nonsense in a chapter? It's still better than the "Heart" nonsense, but not by much at all.

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                                                                                                  pff, I didnt expect a good Naruto chapter, but at least were having one this time around. Well, took too long either way. x)

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                                                                                                    Chapter's out…

                                                                                                    I'm actually liking the 1st.
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                                                                                                      Naruto's level rised up to 'enjoyable'. Second really seems to be the political, hard-man type. In the end, he answered to force, which 1st gave him by raising his chakra or reiatsu or whatever. By the way, did we have any scene like in this one earlier? Creating a pressure on environment by solely raising up the chakra?

                                                                                                      If we were to forget 'mechanical' issues, relationship between first and second is interesting but still they seem to stand at their own league in power levels which is utter bullshit after the Kubo spoon-feeded us with the all 'new generation' thing. Second, too was able to break free out of Edo Tensei like Madara did, but at the last second he failed only because of his more badass brother, Hashirama. Who is the elder one anyway?

                                                                                                      Though, after learning the Tobito nothing seem to irritate me on this series anymore. Still this chapter deserves a re-read for me with more proper translation which hopefully will come form MangaStream folk.

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                                                                                                        The First is as powerful as expected. Being able to control his brother with his presence only.

                                                                                                        But holy fuck, what's up with those retarded memes at the end of every chapter? Are they being created by a retarded horse?

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