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    • KageKageKing
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      I think the purpose of the redrawn version is more to appeal towards readers as it's own thing other than than just remake the webcomic with better artstyle, so the "I liked the webcomic better" type of criticism kinda fall into deaf ears in this case.

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        @KageKageKing:

        I think the purpose of the redrawn version is more to appeal towards readers as it's own thing other than than just remake the webcomic with better artstyle

        I think the full appearance of Blast and his hyperdimensional team fighting against God is proof enough of that

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          There's plenty of evidence that the largest changes made in the redrawn version are being prompted by things later on in the webcomic's story. Presumably because One wishes certain characters or story elements had been introduced earlier and the redrawn version is allowing that to happen.

          Complicating things since 2009.

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            The comparison to webcomic comes naturally because despite being different they are similar and tell the underlying same story. The comparisons only came in for this arc not only because there are more changes but because the changed version is (subjectively) worse. I think even without any webcomic, people would call out Super Saiyan Centipede and Evil Ocean Water. Or Metal Bat cameo. Or Orochi v5 now with extra psykos.

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              @glass:

              Garou in this version has completely been stripped off motivation or danger in favour of God. Garou reached the climax of his character arc without much external interactions to drive him to change or the same lows (psychologically) in this version

              STOP STOP STOP

              This has become exhausting

              Please just stop it people.

              If you like the original comic

              Please just keep reading it.

              Accept the redrawn version is different.

              If you can't then please just stop reading it.

              It's fucking pathetic how in every page of this thread. Someone has to whine about how different this is

              Just STOP!!!!!!!!!!

              HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

              ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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                The redrawn version is there to make money. It is the antithesis of the original. All glamour and no substance. That is why it is so disappointing.

                I talked about the redrawn version, is that good for you?

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                  @kevo_koma:

                  STOP STOP STOP

                  This has become exhausting

                  Please just stop it people.

                  If you like the original comic

                  Please just keep reading it.

                  Accept the redrawn version is different.

                  If you can't then please just stop reading it.

                  It's fucking pathetic how in every page of this thread. Someone has to whine about how different this is

                  Just STOP!!!!!!!!!!

                  Sorry I meant it as a response to TLCs question and the general conversation that started from that. I should've quoted him, sorry.

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                    @Kondo:

                    The redrawn version is there to make money. It is the antithesis of the original. All glamour and no substance. That is why it is so disappointing.

                    I talked about the redrawn version, is that good for you?

                    THERE. IS. NO. LAW. THAT. SAYS. YOU CANNOT. READ. AND. ENJOY. THE. ORIGINAL

                    GO fucking read it and spare us your shit opinion

                    HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

                    ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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                      I mean its an adaptation/ new take on a story. That tends to invite comparison.

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                        @kevo_koma:

                        THERE. IS. NO. LAW. THAT. SAYS. YOU CANNOT. READ. AND. ENJOY. THE. ORIGINAL

                        GO fucking read it and spare us your shit opinion

                        Awesome reply kid

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                          Woah this got a little uh heated

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                            I wouldn’t have minded until he called my opinion shit. I think it is reasonably fair to dislike the direction the redraw has gone compared to what it is based on.

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                              @Kondo:

                              I wouldn’t have minded until he called my opinion shit. I think it is reasonably fair to dislike the direction the redraw has gone compared to what it is based on.

                              I agree with you I like the original version better

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                                @desa:

                                I mean its an adaptation/ new take on a story. That tends to invite comparison.

                                There's a difference between comparisons and constant complaining about the redrawn version pretty much being the only conversation to follow the release of a new chapter. Especially when those complaints handwave away the fact that One is involved in the process.

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                                I wouldn’t have minded until he called my opinion shit. I think it is reasonably fair to dislike the direction the redraw has gone compared to what it is based on.

                                And that's fair statements to make (both you being irritated by it ince that was definitely an unfair thing to say about how you feel about the series and disliking the direction of the redrawn version) but, again, it's not something that has to be said every time. At a certain point, people who do like it get tired of the negativity and just check to see if a new chapter is out with no real other discussion taking place. I know I'm basically at that point with this thread.

                                I've seen several people lately complain about the presentation of a particular event in the redraw somehow being less impressive or epic than the original, check to see what the original was since I couldn't remember it, and it only be a single panel in the webcomic with no real buildup or lasting impact to me. Fang vs. the Monster Executives for instance.

                                Complicating things since 2009.

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                                  I do agree with your take on this, but it’s like One Piece turned into Bleach. Why wouldn’t I be upset? The real comparison isn’t that harsh, but OPM was created to make fun of what it had become. At least that’s how I feel.

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                                    The Naruto, Bleach and Fairy Tail threads were fun back in the day because people actually put some effort in their criticism sometimes even making memes. This thread is just about how the original is so much better and hyperbole like saying that the redrawn version is at the level of Bleach. Boring.

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                                      One Piece is already part way into Bleach territory as it is, lol.

                                      It's not like OPM and OPMR are somehow fused. Separate works with separate storylines. I get the impression some of you just want OPM with better graphics. And while that's ok, pointing the differences week after week serves little purpose. Especially since it's the original author "shitting on his own work".

                                      Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                      Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                      It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                        @Kondo:

                                        Awesome reply kid

                                        Apologies for the tone of that post.

                                        Was having a shit day and ended up venting on the internet.

                                        My bad.

                                        HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

                                        ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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                                          Saitrollma is really funny, lol.

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                                            Fun chapter
                                            https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/WNtRd8v/1/1/

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                                              That was a hilarious chapter. Just when I thought, this Garou is slowly becoming like King (with the only difference being him wanting to be feared as a monster) Saitama just outright says so himself. Good stuff.

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                                                Loved the chapter and talk between Garou and Saitama! For all his thick-headedness, Saitama gets him more than any of the other heroes do.

                                                @Ivotas:

                                                Just when I thought, this Garou is slowly becoming like King (with the only difference being him wanting to be feared as a monster) Saitama just outright says so himself. Good stuff.

                                                That one puzzled me, actually, I don't quite grasp the parallel. Am I maybe missing part of the perspective ?

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                                                  It's how they end up in situations that require heroics without actually trying.

                                                  Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                  Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                  It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                    Ooooh, makes sense. Thanks !

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                                                      Yep, King just wants to be left alone but gets to be taken as a hero whereas Garou wants to be a monster but commits acts that definitely are heroic if you don't witness the hero hunting stuff. And this cjapter cranked it up to eleven. That part with the volcano was comedy gold. I felt like "this dude just isn't getting out of this anymore!". Much like King.

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                                                        It has been thoroughly pointed out that Redraw Garou is different than Original Garou, so really leaning into the comedy here and not even pretending he's actually evil is a great choice. Plus you get more of Saitama lampshading the whole thing, which is always good.

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                                                          So Murata is drawing a parody of a parody manga now.

                                                          "You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero." - Vegeta, Hero Slayer Garou, most MLP villains etc.

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                                                            How so? I'd say this is pretty in line with the webcomics comedic sensibilities, and is making much the same points. Its just going about it in a slightly new way.

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                                                              This was a fun one

                                                              Watching Garou going full Darkstalker with his costume makes me wish Murata had the opportunity to evoke more terror aesthetic into his works…

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                                                                That art cover would've fitted better if this went the way the webcomic did. Chapter was still funny to read. Seeing Saitama troll Garou was hilarious.

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                                                                  Its interesting to see Saitama take a more active heroic/empathetic role and not just monster destroyer.

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                                                                    The chapter was awesome, I really like Saitama vs Garou battle so far.
                                                                    To be honest, I thought edgelord Garou is cool in the webcomic after the first read…
                                                                    But as time goes on, I started to like this version of him much more.
                                                                    After all, he is a 18 year old, his "idea" of the ultimate evil really is in sync with the look he has now.
                                                                    A "cool monster" who will crush the heroes with its superior might.

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                                                                      I'm cracking up. Garo wants to be the big bad villain so badly but does more good than harm 😁

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                                                                        ONE PUNCH-MAN 209 RAW

                                                                        https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/3270296674344129439

                                                                        Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23

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                                                                          Interesting turn of events. It’s as nice a place as any to do it :ninja:

                                                                          beware

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                                                                            ONE PUNCH-MAN 209 RAW

                                                                            https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/3270296674344129439

                                                                            Thanks, Redon! 🙂

                                                                            I really loved the chapter.
                                                                            Yes, it is not the same as the webcomic, but Murata's version of this fight is more tune with the original personality of Garou.
                                                                            He had an idea about the "cool evil monster", which is useless against Saitama strenght.

                                                                            I also enjoyed the part with Blast as well.

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                                                                              https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/3dvsk7T/1/1/

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                                                                                Well like the manga but still do not like hoe much it changed from the original webcomic, which is superior in my opinion

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                                                                                  I dont think we got to see him crossing Power speed and technique before. That would have been a cool convention for the fight.

                                                                                  I continue to be interested in seeing Saitama in such a proactive role when it comes to Garou instead of simple monster destroyer which is his usual MO.

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                                                                                    Is that fuckin Boros?

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                                                                                      It looks like OPM is now an episode of "How it should have ended". 🙂

                                                                                      "You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero." - Vegeta, Hero Slayer Garou, most MLP villains etc.

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                                                                                        @KageKageKing:

                                                                                        Is that fuckin Boros?

                                                                                        I thought he was dead at the end of that fight.

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                                                                                          I thought he was dead at the end of that fight.

                                                                                          The wikia also treats him as dead, but I just reread the fight and it's not clear at all. Given that he fully regenerated his body once already I assume he could have done it again?

                                                                                          I would accept it, just no multiverse shenanigans please.

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                                                                                            I would really dislike if he survived that fight since for me it was about him giving everything.

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                                                                                              It could just be someone else from his species. Although it does look like Blast is in another dimension.

                                                                                              I got a kick out of Saitama and Garou's fight being so intense that's it ripping dimensions apart, but I am bummed we didn't get the part of the fight where Garou is flipped upside down and jumps into the ground. That was my favourite part of the webcomic fight.

                                                                                              ![](http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg198/scaled.php?server=198&filename=groosesig.png&res=m edium)

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                                                                                                There was also Beast King, so likely alternate versions of them. Unless there's someone who goes reviving strong characters that Saitama kills to give them a second chance.

                                                                                                Edit: Though Boros seems to know who did it while Beast King doesn't. Could be a nod to the house of evolution producing an actual, highly evolved specimen that exist elsewhere.

                                                                                                Wash your hands.

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                                                                                                  that last page is amazing. loved this arc.

                                                                                                  i agree with the sentiment that boros being alive after finally getting what he wanted and fighting all out to the death is a bit meh, but i was excited to see him.

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                                                                                                    I don't even remember who Beast King is/was?^^'

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                                                                                                      Although I am not a fan of the last 40% of the redraw, I am actually a fan of the last few pages. I wanted Garou to be a lot more intimidating than what he was, but I also was looking forward to when he realized it was all futile. This last panel is actually something I wanted from the the webcomic. I originally wanted closure to his insane crusade that he never actually thought through.

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                                                                                                        @Ivotas:

                                                                                                        I don't even remember who Beast King is/was?^^'

                                                                                                        The House of Evolution's Leomon; he was their second strongest fighter after Carnage Kabuto.

                                                                                                        Complicating things since 2009.

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