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    • DoctorPhil
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      Well, it was likely something that Murata pitched to One and he okayed. I don't believe it happens without One's approval. Liked the old fight, it had some great content that was now scrapped, particularly Phoenix man's constant powering up and the hopeless feeling it brought. Plus, Child emperor winning without Saitama's help with a great clever conclusion to the fight. Still I guess this one's slightly more entertaining. Didn't care for the addition of Saitama though and Phoenix suddenly turning into a chick made no sense, though I still like more how this 9 year old didn't just straight up murder basically a human with a knife through the heart. I like how he instead doesn't kill him and we get a more light hearted conclusion. Maybe we can even see Phoenix man again in the future now, which is neat.

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        One: It appears people misunderstood [these changes] as my instructions and suggestions, but it is Murata-Sensei who decided this series of revisions [Redraws]. These are his ideas and storyboards. [Therefore] Murata-sensei did some amazing chapters.

        "IF YOU’RE A MAN YOU DON’T CRY ABOUT IT. YOU TAKE LIFE THE UPS AND DOWNS. IF YOU’RE A REAL MAN YA NEVER GO DOWN YA JUST STAY UP"

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          Good to know ^^
          And I remember Murata saying that in terms of battle storyboards, ONE only tells him who wins, and major outcomes, letting Murrata's imagination fills the rest.

          D'une graine plantée avec amour ne fleurit parfoit que des regrets…

          From a seed planted with love flowered sometimes only regrets...

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            It was WAY better before… that's what i'm going to say about this, nothing more. I DON'T LIKE THESE CHANGES AT ALL. It's the first time i really don't like something that Murata did.

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              It true that Zombie man's commentary seemed forced, to follow Child Emperor's character growth. I wouldn't mind if it was put a little later in the story.
              Saitama's role here is quite similar with the one he has with another character in the original webcomic (I won't say anything, for those who don't follow the recent events in the webcomic).

              Oh well, at least the original version of the fight is still avalaible on the net (even though not on the official website):p

              D'une graine plantée avec amour ne fleurit parfoit que des regrets…

              From a seed planted with love flowered sometimes only regrets...

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                Yeah, this is one of those weird cases where I preferred the version where the characters had less development. It was a simple, well done back and forth fight that slowly fleshed out the character traits of the two characters through intense, well choreographed action. We got just enough to make us interested in child emperor's character and how he could grow from this situation. This new version comes off as a massive exposition dump forcing all this emotional character development without really feeling earned and having the weirdest placement. Phoenixman was fine as this powerful albeit goofy muscle, suddenly making this joke character into a super important figure that causes major emotional upheaval for one of the characters just felt out of place.

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                  I still prefer the webcomic where he was killed instantly to show how S class heroes can easily take down demon level threats, to latter build up the dragon level threats that appear later in the arc…. but that’s just me I guess

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                    So it was Murata's idea to change all these things…
                    For once, I too feel Murata's changes are forced and the original version of this battle was much better and enjoyable.
                    Child Emperor is not a bad character, but he doesn't all these extra content.
                    Let's hope Murata will learn from this.

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                      I'm going to be severely crushed if he decides to fuck with the fight I've been waiting for.
                      Please Murata, it's perfect as it is, please don't do anything unneccessary with it!!
                      Just adapt it faithfully, I'm begging ya!

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                        This manga is like the anti-HxH. Instead of being under-produced it's over-produced.

                        [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                        I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                          @Daz:

                          A few months ago, I said this regarding the subject of tonal dissonance in the OPM remake, or how its seriousness is at odds with its gag manga roots…

                          Yeah, everything you've said is indeed a huge problem with the remake.

                          On the topic of "has it ever happened that a jokey self-aware subversion of a genre hasn't wound up with its own elaborate mythology?"

                          The webcomic does a good job of subverting that. Anytime some kind of hyper serious plotline or lore point starts to get build up Saitama just kind of bungles in and wrecks it, immediately setting everything back to square one. That timeliness of the "punchline" has been mostly removed with the manga and what was suppose to be the parody equivalent of a series of quickwitted jokes has now become a long trudge through a bunch of shounen-centric shaggy dog stories.

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                            What it looks like is that Murata was no longer satisfied just redrawing the webcomic and decided that he was going to give himself creative control. One is either too in awe or just intimidated by Murata's status to turn down his changes so he goes along with it.

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                              What it looks like is that Murata was no longer satisfied just redrawing the webcomic and decided that he was going to give himself creative control. One is either too in awe or just intimidated by Murata's status to turn down his changes so he goes along with it.

                              Incredibly unlikely. ONE has ultimate creative control over the manga and probably only gave Murata a bone because it's a fairly irrelevant battle.

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                                Incredibly unlikely. ONE has ultimate creative control over the manga and probably only gave Murata a bone because it's a fairly irrelevant battle.

                                I don't think you can 100% attest to that so your guess is as good as mine. We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and the inner working of their partnership.

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                                  These changes were necessary in my book, the previous rendition of the fight had phoenixman being ridiculously OP which as a consequence made CE have to be a lot stronger than was likely intended. Additionally these character development changes give needed setup for some things that are currently ongoing in the webcomic so it serves to more fluidly bring those two continuities together. Lastly now that Phoenixman lives he can be used again in the future and if One wants to then give him other crazy abilities when he recovers he has that option open.

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                                    This might also be in line of the Amai Mask change. Child Emperor killing a suit monster without a suit is very similar to Amai Mask killing slightly monsterized heroes. Humanoid monsters, with human intelligence, memories and feelings and in a state that doesn't pose direct danger.

                                    Wash your hands.

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                                      Amai Mask might be more linked to further when

                                      ! reattaches his own arm, you could start connecting the dots and suspect that he is not fully human.

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                                        Amai Mask might be more linked to further when

                                        ! reattaches his own arm, you could start connecting the dots and suspect that he is not fully human.

                                        You also realize that he is not Genos.

                                        "You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero." - Vegeta, Hero Slayer Garou, most MLP villains etc.

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                                          Can i just say… "meh"?

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                                            @Mandorle21:

                                            Can i just say… "meh"?

                                            Just let your avatar do the talking.

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                                              Finally new chapter 😆!!!

                                              ONE PUNCH-MAN 175 RAW

                                              https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/13933686331674665135

                                              Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23

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                                                How long until this one is redrawn to include Phoenix Man?

                                                One Piece: Grand Line Bout - a fighting game made by fans, for fans!

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                                                  Psychos becomes increasingly similar to the first boss of Asuras Wrath.

                                                  "You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero." - Vegeta, Hero Slayer Garou, most MLP villains etc.

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                                                      Not a huge fan of this fight. It kind of takes the wind out of the other Dragon monsters.

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                                                          Not a huge fan of this fight. It kind of takes the wind out of the other Dragon monsters.

                                                          Now Murata will have to redraw the chapter so that Psykos blows up a lake instead of the ocean to keep power balance consistent.

                                                          Wash your hands.

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                                                            Yeah! Not impressed with this excessive power up.

                                                            “When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it–always.”

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                                                              So G.O.D. appeared in front of her. No wonder if she got such a immense Power Boost.

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                                                                It looks cool and all, but the next fighst are gonna look lame in comparison.

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                                                                  I'm wonderrng how will Garou and Saitama enter the big action with these two major powers already fighting… Really nice art. I kinda feel I'm happy to not having read the original one...

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                                                                    I am wondering whether touching Saitama's head had given her some power-up.:getlost:

                                                                    “When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it–always.”

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                                                                      @El-Matematico:

                                                                      Now Murata will have to redraw the chapter so that Psykos blows up a lake instead of the ocean to keep power balance consistent.

                                                                      This isn't even a joke anymore. It's only a matter of time before it happens. Gorgiously drawn and all, but this shit is way too excessive. Just get on with the hype cadre fights without overshadowing them with padding before hand. This is probably going to end with a hero getting saved by Saitama for the millionth time this arc.

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                                                                        I admit, I was too busy admiring the godly art to care about things like power level consistency. My jaw dropping more and more after every page of that overkill ray.

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                                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                          I am surprised every time someone comments about power levels and consistency in this series. I seriously couldn't care less about that. Comedy, gorgeous art and amazing action scenes are way more than enough to hook me to OPM. I honestly don't know why people care about the serious side of it.

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                                                                            Like with Berserk, I find it hard to enjoy the art when it is covered in fan service.

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                                                                              I assumed the massive power-up was because the tentacles were absorbing Saitama's power and that Psykos was going to lose it the moment Saitama bursts out.

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                                                                                Wow, that's some Hagiwara-level of power.
                                                                                Now, I'm waiting for Dark Schneider (from Bastard!!) to appear in this manga. Since we are at that level of godly powers that could put a shame on the Boros fight… 😛

                                                                                EDIT: And is that a Hoshin Engi reference, when she talks about aiming to be Earth itself ?

                                                                                ! I'm talking about So Dakki, in the end of the original manga.

                                                                                D'une graine plantée avec amour ne fleurit parfoit que des regrets…

                                                                                From a seed planted with love flowered sometimes only regrets...

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                                                                                  @Chrior:

                                                                                  I am surprised every time someone comments about power levels and consistency in this series. I seriously couldn't care less about that. Comedy, gorgeous art and amazing action scenes are way more than enough to hook me to OPM. I honestly don't know why people care about the serious side of it.

                                                                                  I'm in the same camp. One of the first chapters featured a random monster so massive that he annihilates an entire metropolis by falling over, and said monster gets dispatched within a chapter as if its no big deal. Its a declaration of intent right off the bat that "yo, the level of carnage in this manga is going to be cartoonishly ludicrous"

                                                                                  But of course, the OPM remake does often undermine this angle by presenting many non-saitama fights and scenes in a straightforward, standard shonen manner

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                                                                                    The problem is the level of power that is happening right now, it is the fact that it is preceding fight that are actually interesting. This entire fight will kind of undermine all of the other fights. It would be like if Saitama killed Goketsu before the tournament even started.

                                                                                    And the only time that power doesn’t matter is when Saitama is around. When he isn’t, the manga revolves around power scaling and matchups. People wouldn’t read this manga if it was only Saitama one punching everything.

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                                                                                      @Kondo:

                                                                                      And the only time that power doesn’t matter is when Saitama is around. When he isn’t, the manga revolves around power scaling and matchups. People wouldn’t read this manga if it was only Saitama one punching everything.

                                                                                      It's not about Saitama going around one punching everything. That would of course not be a fun series to follow (although it's the centrepiece of OPM). It's a matter of paying more attention than is due to power levels, letting it dig into the enjoyment of the core points of the series. Especially when people have a certain expectation of things to happen because of the webcomic. Since I've never read the webcomic, I don't get most of the criticism people throw at Murata's version anyway. Of course I'd be crying foul if Licenceless Rider was all of a sudden fighting a monster able to cut a piece of the planet apart, but that is not what is actually happening here.

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                                                                                        This is insane.. Where the hell is blast? How is he okay with this level of destruction lol

                                                                                        Is this the same being that gave the emperor dude his power?

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                                                                                          Well I personally believe this battle is bad because of what happens in the webcomic.

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                                                                                            The only thing I like about the redrawn version over the web comic is the art work, for obvious reasons

                                                                                            But at least when I don’t like something story wise it at least looks cool

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                                                                                              Ok… the destruction is reaching levels that i can't even comprehend now...

                                                                                              Can you imagine if this gets a sloppy lazy anime adaptation like season 2? Jeez... i don't even want to think about it. I hope the anime will make this justice, it would be offensive for Murata himself otherwise...
                                                                                              I mean, i guess when even godly beautiful manga like Berserk don't get decent anime adaptations, there's not much to hope, right? OPM season 1 was a miracle...

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                                                                                                Ok… the destruction is reaching levels that i can't even comprehend now...

                                                                                                Can you imagine if this gets a sloppy lazy anime adaptation like season 2? Jeez... i don't even want to think about it. I hope the anime will make this justice, it would be offensive for Murata himself otherwise...
                                                                                                I mean, i guess when even godly beautiful manga like Berserk don't get decent anime adaptations, there's not much to hope, right? OPM season 1 was a miracle...

                                                                                                Yeah, I don't think we will ever see OPM Anime quality equal to season 1.

                                                                                                That season was special because it had extremely talented animators and artists working on it on a freelance basis, with a legendary director bringing it all together. Heck some of them even did crazy good work on the show and went uncredited.

                                                                                                I really don't think they can capture that lightning in a bottle again.

                                                                                                HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

                                                                                                ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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                                                                                                  Ramp up the horniness a little bit more. Interspecies Reviewers was beautifully animated :ninja:

                                                                                                  “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                                                                                                    Yeah, I don't think we will ever see OPM Anime quality equal to season 1.

                                                                                                    That season was special because it had extremely talented animators and artists working on it on a freelance basis, with a legendary director bringing it all together. Heck some of them even did crazy good work on the show and went uncredited.

                                                                                                    I really don't think they can capture that lightning in a bottle again.

                                                                                                    I guess, but A LOT of anime have better quality than OPM seaosn 2… i mean, look at top tier anime quality like Demon Slayer or Attack On Titan... why can't we have stuff like that?

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                                                                                                      In case anyone is interested, the VIZ translation of OPM has just caught up to the most recent chapter from Murata. Not bad!

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                                                                                                        ONE PUNCH-MAN 176 RAW

                                                                                                        https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/13933686331685700995

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