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Chapter 681: "Luffy Vs. Master"
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I was wondering if the discussion here is only about things happened in ch 681 or one piece in general
because i am looking for a chapter related posts for the last few pages and cant find any =x
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So how bout dem luffy punches'
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Did anybody actually come up with a decent theory on what SAD was? i dont wanna have to weed through 5 pages of haki talk.
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Did anybody actually come up with a decent theory on what SAD was? i dont wanna have to weed through 5 pages of haki talk.
There's been a couple good theories, but I forget what pages exactly they were said on. :/
I think it has something to do with Kinemon's son, now anyways. Why haven't we seen him yet? Because:
–There's something 'special' about him (i.e. connected to S.A.D.)
--He isn't on Punk Hazard anymore, and, Kinemon will join up with the Strawhat Crew to find him in the future.There's something...fishy about not seeing him yet.
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How
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How
About
Kaidou
Is who they're after :PIf Kaido(u) is FINAL given an introduction sometime during Punk Hazard (or soon thereafter)…my life...will be complete.
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This is a theory about SAD and the whole arc. It didn't caught 2 comments, but, tbh, I think it is preety good:
SAD must be:
- something that it is produced (chapter 681 states that there is a S.A.D. production room)
- something that could be stored and transported (chapter 672 states that there is S.A.D. tankers, i.e. ships for its transportation through the ocean)
- something that in some sense is related to CC (chapter 681 states this connection when Monet figures out Law's plan / Notice in last page that third voice narrator lines give credit to what Monet says)
Now, it makes perfect sense to think that this connection between CC and the production of S.A.D is just that CC is the only person able to produce S.A.D.
Law's plan consist in acting in someway over SAD production room and over CC. It makes perfect sense to think that this action is the stopping if S.A.D production at least for a very long time.
In addition, what Law is about to do -in S.A.D production room and kidnaping CC- whatever it be, will have the effect of messing up the New World.
So it makes sense to think that the New World stability depends of production and distribution of S.A.D.
But, ey, Law's plan relates in some way this messing up of the New World with taking down a Yonkou. Notice that his plan in fact is not a plan to messing up the New World, but to take down a Yonkou and, ultimately, to be able to advance towards Raftel and the One Piece with out being loyalty to a Yonkou.
And the New World is an ocean ruled by Yonkous and divided between them.
So, it makes perfect sense to think that the stopping of S.A.D production is going to destabilize in some way a particular Yonkou, provoking some wild reaction of him/her.
But, taking in account what we know about Yonkous, none of them depends on or is stable because of the production of some kind of product… Really?... No no no, wait back. Big Mom kills entire islands when those ones fail their agreement of providing her with certain sweeties and candies rate (This, stated in FI arc).
And,… yes,... CC is an expert on manufacturing special candies with different effects (one for Smiley but some different ones for those kidnapped kids or for centaurs)
So, it makes sense to think that BM is the Yonkou targeted in Law's plan, and that S.A.D is some kind of special candy exclusively produced by CC and delivered to her by Doflamingo's organization.
Notice also that in the history of this passion Big Mom feels for candies, CC could have had an special role.
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^^^ I'm wondering… If that's the case, maybe S.A.D. is Big Mam's version of Rumble Balls. And maybe (just maybe) that points to Big Mam being a Zoan-type Devil Fruit user (Mythical Zoan, Hito Hito no Mi, model: Baba Yaga)? The slowdown or complete cutoff of S.A.D. weakens her, because she can't do her Zoan's various transformations.
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CC seems to have knowledge about Devil fruits, enougth to recover sara sara no mi… so, if the theory is right, what he produces could have something to do with BM powers. But, if you remember those pages from FI arc about her, Big Mom is a very nasty lady that only thinks of eating and eating, feared by everyone, included her crew. So another possibility for the theory is that CC produces some kind of candy to which she is addicted, as if the lady would be a junkie. Remember that junkies can rob and even kill for drugs.
Law's plan would consist in driving Big Mom crazy...
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This is a theory about SAD and the whole arc. It didn't caught 2 comments, but, tbh, I think it is preety good:
But Big Mom doesn't really associate well with others, which leads me to believe that Caeser might not be fueling her with her so desired candies. Plus she gets candies from all of the islands she rules over. Love your theory though. (:
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@krule274:
But Big Mom doesn't really associate well with others, which leads me to believe that Caeser might not be fueling her with her so desired candies. Plus she gets candies from all of the islands she rules over. Love your theory though. (:
Caesar doesn't necessarily have to deal with her at all; that's what the broker intermediaries are for. All he has to do is produce something for her on the side. Notice also that Pekoms and Tamago are keeping a close eye on all that is going on. The product also doesn't have to be strictly candy, but a medicine she needs to maintain her powers or even life.
I'm actually a fan of this theory. I had some hunches something like that would be the case, but hadn't been able to .. formulate it into one coherent thought like that. Kudos, Ukimix.
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What if S.A.D is the OP equivalent of oil? I mean Oda likes to create analogies to real world situations. If S.A.D or oil were to be cut off the NW and our planet would be screwed. They both seem to be power sources and they both are controlled by very powerful interests Dofla/brokers and OPEC. I dunno but that's my 2 cents after reading all the info Ukimix put up
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@krule274:
But Big Mom doesn't really associate well with others, which leads me to believe that Caeser might not be fueling her with her so desired candies. Plus she gets candies from all of the islands she rules over. Love your theory though. (:
Well, it is not mine. Lord_Raileygh from mangahelpers posted in the first place; thought what I posted is my writing. Credits for him.
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CC seems to have knowledge about Devil fruits, enougth to recover sara sara no mi…
When I read this I thought, "what the hell is plate plate fruit??" Then I remember Japanese don't have the letter 'l'… ror
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What if S.A.D is the OP equivalent of oil? I mean Oda likes to create analogies to real world situations. If S.A.D or oil were to be cut off the NW and our planet would be screwed. They both seem to be power sources and they both are controlled by very powerful interests Dofla/brokers and OPEC. I dunno but that's my 2 cents after reading all the info Ukimix put up
that's another good equivalent. let's see if it's either your equivalence or mine, or something else altogether. I hope it's explained in detail in the next chapter :D
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When I read this I thought, "what the hell is plate plate fruit??" Then I remember Japanese don't have the letter 'l'… ror
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S.A.D. could be some kind of machine or something to do with gas, this is why they needed Caeser.
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S.A.D is actually Super Addictive Drink. It's a kind of cola that's a huge commodity in the NW (disturbance in distribution could create havoc). When Law got in, he will find Franky is already in the room (like the next chapter preview says), trying to figure out the secret ingredients (getting to Sunny is only an excuse). Franky needs the cola's secret ingredient, which is a special gas only CC knows about (Vegapunk knows the basic form, but CC perfected it), to achieve his final form. The gas can be used to create a massive coup de boo stronger than a nuclear bomb. He first read the gas from pluton blueprint (it's actually the secret fuel that makes pluton fearsome) and then got some more hints from Vegapunk's lab. With his final form, Franky will be considered as SH's own weapon of mass destruction equals to pluton itself.
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In regards to monet her harpy wing n legs are laws doing right? Cause in chapter 666 page 6 she had arms n legs, also usopp says it laws doing, in another chapter.
Her devil fruit could be anything, I'm sure if mr 2 had the same move and called it an igloo we would believe it so it could be anything, but I like the idea of snow, would explain how she can fly around in a blizzard unharmed lol.
Also be cool of kinemon joined the crew. They would have the ability to disguise them selves lol, but I doubt it with his son and all. But still posibility
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S.A.D is actually Super Addictive Drink. It's a kind of cola that's a huge commodity in the NW (disturbance in distribution could create havoc). When Law got in, he will find Franky is already in the room (like the next chapter preview says), trying to figure out the secret ingredients (getting to Sunny is only an excuse). Franky needs the cola's secret ingredient, which is a special gas only CC knows about (Vegapunk knows the basic form, but CC perfected it), to achieve his final form. The gas can be used to create a massive coup de boo stronger than a nuclear bomb. He first read the gas from pluton blueprint (it's actually the secret fuel that makes pluton fearsome) and then got some more hints from Vegapunk's lab. With his final form, Franky will be considered as SH's own weapon of mass destruction equals to pluton itself.
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Nice theory but where do Sabo and Donflamingo fit in? And no mention of next nakama? :ninja:
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Nice theory but where do Sabo and Donflamingo fit in? And no mention of next nakama? :ninja:
Why man, it's obvious that Monet is Sabo and Dofla is the one who puts those things on Vergo's cheek (it works like an antenna to communicate with and to control Vergo's movement when necessary), but we're not talking about that. And oh, S.A.D tanker for the next nakama! :ninja:
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What if S.A.D is the OP equivalent of oil? I mean Oda likes to create analogies to real world situations. If S.A.D or oil were to be cut off the NW and our planet would be screwed. They both seem to be power sources and they both are controlled by very powerful interests Dofla/brokers and OPEC. I dunno but that's my 2 cents after reading all the info Ukimix put up
However, the One Piece world HAS oil. At least, Usopp has used oil on several occasions. Though it could be that oil is not an important product in One Piece (they don't have cars, and they don't really seem to have many vehicles/crafts that are fueled by gas), and S.A.D. is the equivalent in importance. Or that oil doesn't exist in the New World.
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SAD is the energy steroids from Fishmans Island?
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@Sonic:
SAD is the energy steroids from Fishmans Island?
Oh god please no.
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@Sonic:
SAD is the energy steroids from Fishmans Island?
thought the energy steroids came from the lil box sent to big mam
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found the page where they're talking about it!
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Oh right.
That was such a let down I forgot about it. -
What if S.A.D is the OP equivalent of oil? I mean Oda likes to create analogies to real world situations. If S.A.D or oil were to be cut off the NW and our planet would be screwed. They both seem to be power sources and they both are controlled by very powerful interests Dofla/brokers and OPEC. I dunno but that's my 2 cents after reading all the info Ukimix put up
If an oil equivalent is introduced into One Piece, then, more and more, I'm going to start and think One Piece is going to turn into a sci-fi series closer to its conclusion.
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S.A.D. = Sogeking Assassin Disaster. It's a machine which produces Sogekings. One Sogeking is very strong, but an army of Sogekings will turn the world into chaos!
S.A.D. Tanker = Tanker with Sogeking as bodyguard because the New World is dangerous.
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what if big mom needs the sad and it stands for stomach acid … (something) to control her cramps and Law plans to worsen them by adding poisonous gas to the sad?
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what if big mom needs the sad and it stands for stomach acid … (something) to control her cramps and Law plans to worsen them by adding poisonous gas to the sad?
Jesus, it gets better and better
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what if big mom needs the sad and it stands for stomach acid … (something) to control her cramps and Law plans to worsen them by adding poisonous gas to the sad?
stomach acid disabler!
stomach acid destroyer!
stomach acid d…........dragon?ran out of d words so quickly lol
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Jesus, it gets better and better
well, yes, off course, although it might have been more appropriate in the dumb predictions thread.
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New chapter tomorrow, or is it late because the last one was early?
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Stomach Acid Dispenser :ninja:
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New chapter tomorrow, or is it late because the last one was early?
#StillDon'tKnowHowThisWorksIt'll be ready for tomorrow. That don't change just becuz it was a day early last week.
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S.A.D = Suck A Dick… CC and Vergo are distraught because they've finally perfected S.A.D for Doflamingo but Law wants to use it and then after... alter it so he can use it to mess up the New World. Just a theory/prediction :ninja:
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I really think S.A.D. is going to be Big Mam's equivalent of Rumble Balls, and that she's a Zoan user. Cutting her off of S.A.D. won't allow her to use her powerful transformations.
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i will try to lets see S.A.D= smile after dinner
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Maybe S.A.D. will make you able to consume more than one devil fruit and Blackbeard had somehow used the prototype-version of S.A.D. already? ;)
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Surface All Digletts. They're going to somehow pull Digletts' whole bodies to the surface to find out what they really look like.
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All the theories are amusing me.
Though whatever it is, remember that its something tha CC could have done, but didn't. Its not like this is hidden away in some ancient unaccessible cave somewhere, CC could have opened the door anytime he wanted to, but chose not to. In other words, its probably something destructive and disruptive rather than some uber-powerful artifact.
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Whatever S.A.D. means, it's most assuredly a substance extracted from CC's gas hence why he's so important to Doflamingo.
I'm really liking the theory about S.A.D. being the One Piece planet's "oil" aka fuel. If you take a close look at this page you can see lot's of metal plates sticking out of the snow. It seems like the island itself is very mechanical themed with cyborgs and stuff. According to the guard it's one of Kaidou's favorites but it was never explained why. So what if Kaido is all about exploitation of natural resources and dependent on S.A.D. for his production? No S.A.D. = no whatever-Kaido's-using-it-for = extremely pissed Kaido.
So yeah, maybe the Yonkou Law wants to take down isn't Big Mom but Kaido.
Or S.A.D. = Sweet Addictive Drug (drug in the sense of cure or medicament). Screw you oda, there are so many possibilities. :ninja:
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@Medical:
Surface All Digletts. They're going to somehow pull Digletts' whole bodies to the surface to find out what they really look like.
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Sugary Artificial Dogs