http://mynintendonews.com/2012/01/29/ace-attorney-5-has-been-confirmed-by-capcom/
Ace Attorney 5 confirmed by Capcom.
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/01/29/ace-attorney-5-has-been-confirmed-by-capcom/
Ace Attorney 5 confirmed by Capcom.
Oh hell yeah!
I wonder who'll be the "star" in this one (Apollo again?).
@Nia:
Oh hell yeah!
I wonder who'll be the "star" in this one (Apollo again?).
I'm hoping for a new trilogy with no recurring characters whatsoever (that's what AJ was originally supposed to be), but I wouldn't mind a sequel to Apollo Justice either.
Either way, it's about time. Now just give us that AAI2 and I'm fine.
Oh MAN I am stoked for this!
PleasepleasePLEASE get a US release!
I would be more excited about this but then I remembered what happened to such Capcom games like Ace Attorney Investigations 2 and Monster Hunter Freedom 3.
Sorry I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer but until I get confirmation of an English release I'm not getting my hopes up.
I've just begun to play the Ace Attorney games and i'm loving them.
Already getting close to the end of case 4 in the first game.
As far as a US release date… I wouldn't get hopes up either unless we see Miles Edgeworth 2 come stateside soon. Which I find doubtful. Although, on the other hand, we might see it if it's a 3ds release.
It better be an Apollo game
or just Phoenix but I doubt that
I hope Apollo's the main character. Without the plot being bound by having to explain what happened to Phoenix, he needs another game to flesh himself out.
Of course, Capcom's refusal to localize Investigations 2 is a big problem, and it doesn't help that the games tend to heavily reference each other. Part of the reason Capcom claimed to not bring it over is because they thought that the DS was dead (ha!), so if this is on the 3DS hopefully they'll change their tune. They better.
Get your shit together, Capcom.
I'd really look forward to this game otherwise; the Ace Attorney games are outstanding and I'd LOVE another foray into the world of Phoenix Wright!
Yeah. It's Capcom. No telling what they'll do. We should at least be getting Professor Layton x Ace Attorney since I would think Level-5 could localize it if Capcom doesn't.
Most people don't realize, because Gyakusai is a series that is really free to manipulate the player into forgiving and ignoring major flaws without their realizing, in favor of the more obvious strengths (a more passive version of what I call Suda Syndrome), but this series has been fucking awful like half the time and really fun the other half. But every game is full of some really shitty sequences and the entire endgame of Phoenix Wright 3 (Godot is the worst character ever who started out seemingly cool for all of four minutes) and almost all of Apollo Justice was just bad, messy.
For a while it really felt like this franchise just went all balls, a departure into gimmicky, thoughtless shlock.
Apollo Justice got dicked over by having the main character basically get his hand held by the prosecutor most of the time and then Phoenix sticking his dick in and out of everything where it didn't belong. There was a total lack of anything happening and by the end there was no point in Apollo even being there. He was the most passive main character possible and he could've died off camera ten seconds in and it would've been the exact same game. Just with some dead twin brother.
Iit was mostly production issues involving heavy amounts of compromise, but for godsakes. You know what pissed me off about that the most? Apollo Justice was a great character and I liked him a hell of a lot more than Phoenix. But then again most of this series has shitty characters anyways.
This all sounds very extreme, but I was heavily involved in the Gyakusai English and Japanese fandom for many, many years and my criticisms have just grown harsh in the face of a product I used to really enjoy.
What Gyakusai 5 really needed was a breather, to step back. The two Edgeworth games gave it this chance and they improved the quality of everything not just marginally, but significantly. So I am torn.
I want Gyakusai 5 to be great and it just may be if the creators can just move on, away from Phoenix, and let Apollo shine and just tell his own stories without compromises and pandering.
PANDERING is so much of what the series has been, after all. The Edgeworth games were at least a better handling of it, but let's face it
This franchise has turned into fanservice and it's been worse off for it, as far as potential and future is concerned.
… Please be good Gyakusai 5
I hope Apollo's the main character. Without the plot being bound by having to explain what happened to Phoenix, he needs another game to flesh himself out.
Of course, Capcom's refusal to localize Investigations 2 is a big problem, and it doesn't help that the games tend to heavily reference each other. Part of the reason Capcom claimed to not bring it over is because they thought that the DS was dead (ha!), so if this is on the 3DS hopefully they'll change their tune. They better.
Svensson is supposedly trying to make it happen, actually. I wouldn't rule out the possiblity of a 3DS port.
@The:
and if any of you say FOOLISH FOOL, or start blabbing about coffee
How about whipping then? crooked smirk
Seriously though, I can see where all that criticism comes from.
I just don't mind the flaws all that much because I never got that involved with the games/fandom. I just enjoyed the games for what they were, not really minding what I got (though, I gotta admit, even I disliked how Apollo Justice was done, for the most part).
However, I'd of course love to see a lot of improvement for AA 5.
Really? I liked Godot….but then again, it's been years and years since I played 3 in my younger, more misguided days. Thinking back I can see where you're coming from. He always did seem like a shallow, single-minded character didn't he? But I just can't help liking him, the cool visor and badass posturing won me over! I'd probably hate him now if I played the game again though, or maybe not, nostalgia and all that.
Rule of Cool.
Sometimes the games flagged, but I enjoyed the hell out of them. FIGHT ME
Godot had presence, certainly, but I wasn't really impressed with how he went along with some theories that were pretty obviously absurd.
Godot's major issue is that he's really really badly written. Like, I have nothing against you if you think he's cool. He just
does not make sense
as a character.
He really falls apart in the last act where you get into his "head".
I've only recently gotten into the series but I'm pretty excited for this, I'm currently on the fourth case in Apollo Justice, havent played the Edgeworth games yet.
Godot is… Yeah, I dunno. His design is cool and the coffee metaphors can be pretty amusing. I don't hate him but he's not among my favorites either.
wait I wasn't defending Godot, Godot's a mess
It's the series I like.
The main thing I liked about Godot was his theme, oddly enough.
No the music is the best part of Gyakusai.
The Orchestra and Jazz albums were godsends.
Now let's hope the game is close to or currently under development and that isn't a tease like last time.
^ Is your name a Lupin reference?
I just want the series to rely less on fanservice and meta-jokes.
I think it will be at least for the 3DS because the crossover is on it
Yeah. The main part they need to focus on this game compared to the last one is Apollo needs a much bigger spotlight. He was overshadowed way too much in Ace Attorney 4.
I'm already just glad they finally confirmed it after all these years of silence.
I just want to see Apollo do more if he's back. I like Phoenix, but in the last game he had way too much spotlight for my tastes.
About time we got another Ace Attorney series! I was about to let go and consider that
the miracle never happen.
ahem
Anyways, I agree with the general consensus that the Ace Attorney games have taken a downward slope (but not a steep one!). The first game wowed me enough to ALMOST be heavily involved in the fandom. Can't say why I didn't, I may as well have. I even wrote a 32 page paper on the series for my english class.
I'm really, really hoping it's another Apollo Justice game. The first felt more like "Trucy and Gavin Explain Everything! Rather Than Apollo". I know they wanted to approach the players with a "Hey, this is a rookie attorney starting out in his rookie days" approach, but they did it too much. We hardly ever saw him improve, and in the end he even admits that he has a long way to go, IIRC. And I really wanted to like Apollo, since he certainly has potential to be more interesting than Phoenix, especially considering he's not bitterly sarcastic.
I loved Investigations. I started hating Edgeworth when he became so emo in the first game, and the fanbase didn't help either. I just never saw the appeal. Investigations changed that though, since he came across as a much more likable guy and always had a cool, calm, and collected attitude for the most part in the games.
I sure wouldn't mind a 3DS port of AAI 2.
^ Is your name a Lupin reference?
….................................Yeah.
@Mr.:
And I really wanted to like Apollo, since he certainly has potential to be more interesting than Phoenix,
Would be a nice if the least open minded elements of the fanbase learn to like Apollo since most of the common criticism of 4 was Apollo replacing Phoenix.
I actually liked Ace Attorney Investigations until the very last act of the last case where the real culprit became too unbelievably powerful to take down. It was one deus ex machina after another with that guy just to barely catch him.
Otherwise I thought the game was a step in the right direction. Taking the Ace Attorney gameplay and trying something new with it. I hope they do something new or at least somewhat similar to Investigations with Ace Attorney 5.
Would be a nice if the least open minded elements of the fanbase learn to like Apollo since most of the common criticism of 4 was Apollo replacing Phoenix.
People are just too afraid of change, and I don't understand why.
Well, I do understand WHY, but I don't understand why they can't accept what's at hand and move on. Change is good if it's change for the better.
Mourn what's lost (but not for too long), and rejoice in what's new. Besides, it's not like Phoenix died or anything.
@Mr.:
People are just too afraid of change, and I don't understand why.
Well, I do understand WHY, but I don't understand why they can't accept what's at hand and move on. Change is good if it's change for the better.
Change can't beat nostalgia to some.
Great news!
I'm gonna laugh if there's relevant info to Investigations 2 in this one.
I too hope it's an Apollo game, I'd like to see him in action a bit more, but I would like a bit of closure as to what became of the Fey girls.
I hope it reinstates
! Jake Marshall and Tyrell Badd.
! They crack me up.
Hoping for a tad more interactive gameplay. Also, I enjoy the games for their nonsensically convoluted crime scenarios and over the top/overly dramatic animu characters in court, but more of these supernatural elements would probably drag down the experience for me. Final case of T&T was really good until they distended the ghost elements way too much in painfully ridiculous ways, which ruined it for me.
But I don't care for the series enough to get enraged if they'd mess it up.
I very much like the game (I'm one case shy of completing ace attorney), but there are times where I feel if I think too much I'll stop enjoying them. The edgeworth defending case had me nearly yelling the answers at my ds loong before the game decided to reveal them to me. The senile nature of the judge, being a special point of contention. But I take it with a grain of salt and lagh at how absurd some things are with these games.
The music rules. Its the reason im currently enamoured with the series. The jazz and orchestra albums are listened to daily. But then again it's the same composer who made the Grandia ost, so its natural.
I hope it's a new Apollo game, but I wouldn't mind if it's a new character altogether either.
Apollo is the only one I haven't bought.
You guy's are making me fearful. But If the other games reference the others I want to get it. But I kinda don't like the idea of having my hand held. Well let me rephrase that, I don't like the idea of the story holding the character's hand.
In other news, I cannot get enough of these albums. The special edition bonus for Edgeworth 2 was an orchestral album!! That is far too righteously dope for my tastes!
I absolutely love this track of the "meets orchestra" album
The Crescendo that starts at 4:40 followed by the violin 'In Rilievo' near 5:15 nearly brings me to tears. So amazing with a cup of black coffee.
Apollo is the only one I haven't bought.
You guy's are making me fearful. But If the other games reference the others I want to get it. But I kinda don't like the idea of having my hand held. Well let me rephrase that, I don't like the idea of the story holding the character's hand.
I'd still recommend getting Apollo Justice, it still has a great story, even though it may be walking you through the game at times.
Also, one thing I remembered about AJ that I was a little upset with:
! Phoenix's whole plan of getting back at a certain someone seemed to leave Apollo as "the guy who just got caught up in the middle of it", meaning that it may as well have been a Phoenix Wright game the whole time, and have Apollo as another quirky character that he meets along the way.
So does anyone think they'll introduce the jury system introduced in the last game in this installment? Basically, making it a new feature for the cases.
Unless they do a ''crooked juror'' plot I honestly don't see the Jurist System affecting the gameplay all that much, since all they do is render their judgment after you've done all of your presenting and arguing and whatnot.
I feel like the juror system could add a point system with scoring at the end of it. Like, you can get 100% of all evidence and everything and get perfect scores on cases. It would be cool to have optional investigation portions that truly unlock the entirety of what happened, but you only need like 70% to convict them and you'd get like a C
I.e. if the killer beat them with a wrench, you could figure out that part, but if you also find out that the wrench had fingerprints on it that connected it more cleanly to the bike you know he had, it's a "cleaner" investigation.
Yall nah I mean???? bad examples lol.
But the Edgeworth games had way more improved gameplay and I feel like they could come back to the defense attourney side and add a little spice to it too.
Only played the first 2 games.
It had a lot of charm an I really liked them a lot.
The only complaint I had where some localisation nonesense going on like unncessarily replacing eating ramen with hamburgers.
The other one was that sometimes the cases where pretty much just a try things out thing, would've have been nicer to make them solvable with thinking.
But yeah at least the characters were quite fun.
Are the Ace Attorneys any good? thought about buying them but haven't heard good or bad reviews on it.
Only played the first 2 games.
It had a lot of charm an I really liked them a lot.
The only complaint I had where some localisation nonesense going on like unncessarily replacing eating ramen with hamburgers.
The other one was that sometimes the cases where pretty much just a try things out thing, would've have been nicer to make them solvable with thinking.
But yeah at least the characters were quite fun.
Really? I thought the localization worked pretty well. I don't buy the series being set in Los Angeles though.
@The:
I feel like the juror system could add a point system with scoring at the end of it. Like, you can get 100% of all evidence and everything and get perfect scores on cases. It would be cool to have optional investigation portions that truly unlock the entirety of what happened, but you only need like 70% to convict them and you'd get like a C
I.e. if the killer beat them with a wrench, you could figure out that part, but if you also find out that the wrench had fingerprints on it that connected it more cleanly to the bike you know he had, it's a "cleaner" investigation.
Yall nah I mean???? bad examples lol.
But the Edgeworth games had way more improved gameplay and I feel like they could come back to the defense attourney side and add a little spice to it too.
That'd be really fun. Something for the completionist type of players to really sink their teeth into.
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Apollo is the only one I haven't bought.
You guy's are making me fearful. But If the other games reference the others I want to get it. But I kinda don't like the idea of having my hand held. Well let me rephrase that, I don't like the idea of the story holding the character's hand.
In other news, I cannot get enough of these albums. The special edition bonus for Edgeworth 2 was an orchestral album!! That is far too righteously dope for my tastes!
I absolutely love this track of the "meets orchestra" album
The Crescendo that starts at 4:40 followed by the violin 'In Rilievo' near 5:15 nearly brings me to tears. So amazing with a cup of black coffee.
Pretty awesome but my favorite will always be this.
Something about it gives such a "Fuck yeah, got ya!" feeling.
Really? I thought the localization worked pretty well. I don't buy the series being set in Los Angeles though.
Yeah, I'm just nitpicking. The thing is they changed a lot of stuff to make it more familiar with the american audience, hence your not buying it's setting.
I just think it's really dumb to think that staying true to it's original source material would make it less appealing or understandable.
It's also denying the audience to learn something about another country.
I don't know it's not major just really annoying to me.
^ You make a pretty good point, but I for one wouldn't be able to keep track on who's who if everyone has Japanese names. At least not with that many characters.
^ You make a pretty good point, but I for one wouldn't be able to keep track on who's who if everyone has Japanese names. At least not with that many characters.
Actually the names are the thing I think they did perfectly.
Although I enjoy the pun in mr naruhodo (which translates to: I see!) I think phoenix wright is actually a incredibly fitting name.
It's really more like changing things to suit the culture like my ramen example.
There are more things like these but I can't remember to well it's been a long time.
@The:
I feel like the juror system could add a point system with scoring at the end of it. Like, you can get 100% of all evidence and everything and get perfect scores on cases. It would be cool to have optional investigation portions that truly unlock the entirety of what happened, but you only need like 70% to convict them and you'd get like a C
Just like LA Noire only without people bitching about not being able to fail cases by not solving them.
@The:
Are the Ace Attorneys any good? thought about buying them but haven't heard good or bad reviews on it.
It's quality depends on how far aside you can set your willing suspension of disbelief.