Hey guys remember how Luffy saved Ace from Akainu since he has the SH, kings haki, and because he is Roger's clone. I remember it so well.
Oh yeah great scene mate so glad they are exactly the same.
Hey guys remember how Luffy saved Ace from Akainu since he has the SH, kings haki, and because he is Roger's clone. I remember it so well.
Oh yeah great scene mate so glad they are exactly the same.
Taking a break from the Luffy != Roger and Jinbe = nakama thing, who's giving the "I can see the path towards the sun" narration at the end there? Fukaboshi? Neptune? The translation is confusing.
The narrator is making the speech like at the end of Skypiea.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
this is delicious. burn, NN thread! BURN!
Taking a break from the Luffy != Roger and Jinbe = nakama thing, who's giving the "I can see the path towards the sun" narration at the end there? Fukaboshi? Neptune? The translation is confusing.
Oda .
Luffy wasn't born with any innate abilities. He got awesome abilities because he worked hard.
The guy is obviously talking about the concept of fate with Luffy having a strong lineage, being able to hear the voice of all things, the will of D and several prophecies revolving around him in this arc alone. Oda made it a strong point to have all the supernovas and other pirates who are Luffy's level so that this wouldnt be a one dimensional story where no one else in the world had a chance.
Luffy will obviously become pirate king, but whats the point of Kidd's existence if its theres a candidate who already has the same abilities as Roger(voice of all things), the will of D like roger(I will let this slip since BB has it too), and his strawhat. This is what picklejar and others are complaining about, people like Roger have worked just as hard yet he doesn't have the voice of all things, the only people we know with it are Luffy and Roger.
Why does Oda continue giving analogies between Roger and Luffy? It ruins his charcater. Really.
Oda .
Or in the anime, the narrator guy.
Oh yeah great scene mate so glad they are exactly the same.
Would be cool to see some photoshopped Roger's faces in Luffy's best moments and vice-versa. Just to make fun of all this.
Ok. Who closed the new nakamate thread? we haven't reached 1000 pages yet. :ninja:
Here, the best I can do.
Ahhh yeah! This was the chapter I've been waiting for ;D
Luffy asked Jinbe to join the crew!
Whether Jinbe says yes or no…doesn't really matter at this point. It's obvious that Luffy wants him to join his crew at all cost. You can't deny that smile, people!
And even if Jinbe says no (which I could see happen), you know who else declined Luffy's invitation to join his crew? Sanji, Nami, Franky, Brook....
So yeah, if Luffy seriously wants you...you better have your body ready. Ehhh....wait. That's didn't come out right....
Great chapter, but I'd really like to see a better translation. There were some weird lines here and there, and both versions (MS and MR) are different. . .
Other than that, enjoyed it quite a lot.
And on the poll, put me in the "No answer next chapter!". Something will happen, or the flashback will start mid-chapter to end the next one, or wathever. Just a prediction, probably I'll be wrong.
How come everyone is comenting on things like:
-Another paralelism
-Jinbei joining
-which translation is more acurate
(…)
Such a great finale... that coverspread would have me crying if I wasn't annoyed about the flu.
With it like THIS, a "no" would be the most anticlimatic shit EVER... It was just :X
The poem, followed by Luffy waking up. Prolly the best thing since the crew separated.
All these special connections and abilities sure helped Luffy to save his brother and protect his crew back in Sabaondy, huh? I give up. Don't feel like arguing about it anymore. Everyone has their own opinions.
@gotta<3OP:
The poem, followed by Luffy waking up. Prolly the best thing since the crew separated.
Nothing in OP can compare to Bon Clay's sacrifice at impel down.
Jinbe is joining. No doubt about it.
He's not even allowed to be on FI right now.
@gotta<3OP:
How come everyone is comenting on things like:
-Jinbei joining
Actually this topic is important for discussion. I mean, if Jinbe joins, he's going to be forever with the crew until the end of the story.
The others are just for the lulz, or to not jump into wrong conclusions.
@Monkey:
Why does Oda continue giving analogies between Roger and Luffy? It ruins his charcater. Really.
It doesn't ruin his character in the slightest.
It's not like Luffy's not his own person, with his own unique set of flaws and quirks.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/99312992/10 http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/635/3 find the differences game
The great destiny schism of 2011. I look forward to seeing how this outfall will affect the church of Buggy.
Go take the poll people! Will he accept?!
I don't think this arc is just over yet. I think that Big Mom or the Marines might come into Fishman Island to see what the hells happening.
Ok. Who closed the new nakamate thread? This is NOT yet fully confirmed, boys and girls, what are you thinking? HE HAS NOT ACCEPTED YET. Jesus Christ. Someone, please. Be rational. Think about this. I firmly believe he's going to join BUT IT'S NOT BLOODY CONFIRMED YET. Reopen the thread. Where else are people going to discuss, eh? You don't want to spam other threads, I know it. Also we haven't reached 1000 pages yet. :ninja:
I wasn't GOING to close it, but Cyan had a perfect ending post. Reaching 1000 pages for the sake of bickering is not a goal in and of itself.
And it's confirmed at this point. Jinbe is joining. It's been blatant for six months now, likely for a year, and possible for two. Live with it.
Unless you want to start betting with actual stakes? I could stand to make some easy money.
Oda is waiting for the end of the series to reveal that Roger is Luffy from the future with a moustache. Adult Luffy just gave the hat to Shanks so Shanks could to give it to Luffy as a kid.
Aizen smirk
It doesn't ruin his character in the slightest.
It's not like Luffy's not his own person, with his own unique set of flaws and quirks.
What? It is ruining his character because I know what Luffy is doing was done by Roger. Hell he even visits the same islands(sky islands), he wears the same hat with Roger, he has similar characteristics. Yes, I am not saying a unique person here. More like a unique copy.
@marc0.:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/99312992/10 http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/635/3 find the differences game
Well Jinbe is not as beat up before (against Hody), plus his hand is in a different position, and his stance is a bit more shifted before (against Hody)…
Awww, so for all his power-up, Luffy was wounded by Hody so much that he would die without a transfusion.
I know Oda needed some plot device to wrap up his "blood transfer" trope, but come on.
I think you're seriously underestimating Hody's power in the water, "and" with a boat-load of steroids. What Luffy did was defeat an opponent not only with field advantage, but MASSIVE power-ups. He may have not won in the way you wanted, but he did defeat an opponent with literally every single thing going his way, and then some.
What a nice chapter. Look at Pappag standing on the Sunny like he's some epic adventurer. Hahaha.
Hey turns out the guy who conquered this entire ocean has visited these islands before, welp that's it the story is ruined FOREVER
@RobbyBevard:
I wasn't GOING to close it, but Cyan had a perfect ending post. Reaching 1000 pages for the sake of bickering is not a goal in and of itself.
And it's confirmed at this point. Jinbe is joining. It's been blatant for six months now, likely for a year, and possible for two. Live with it.
Unless you want to start betting with actual stakes? I could stand to make some easy money.
Oh, I got a response! How kind. =) I agree that the ending post is nice, and I agree that it's been pretty obvious for a long time now. Don't see how a bet for the same thing is gonna do anything though, any ideas? Otherwise I don't see your point… :ninja:
Agreeing with MasterKingJC. In some ways it can have an adverse effect on his dream, I guess, but it doesn't affect his personality or identity at all to me. I'm personally fine with the idea that Luffy shares parallels with Roger, and that doesn't also necessitate that Luffy's success will be due to fate as opposed to his willpower and skills.
Jinbe will join, all that was left was Luffy asking.
No one can seriously expect that Jinbe says no to ANYTHING Luffy wants from him after:
There is simply no way Jinbe would say no, especially when you consider that he intended to give his life for someone who merely protected the island for a while (Whitebeard).
But apart from that:
Why does Oda continue giving analogies between Roger and Luffy? It ruins his charcater. Really.
Fully agreed.
Hey turns out the guy who conquered this entire ocean has visited these islands before, welp that's it the story is ruined FOREVER
Totally ignoring everything else. Welp bad attempt at sarcasm.
@Monkey:
What? It is ruining his character because I know what Luffy is doing was done by Roger.
If you're worried about Luffy doing the same things that Roger did, you should have stopped reading literally after the first chapter.
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Jinbe Joining? eh, it's whatever, I don't really care much since One Piece has always been ranked just outside my top five favorite manga.
1. Black Lagoon
2.Wolf Guy Wolfen Crest
3. Deadman Wonderland
4. Battle Royale
5. Change 123
6. One Piece
…It's like that.
@Monkey:
What? It is ruining his character because I know what Luffy is doing was done by Roger. Hell he even visits the same islands(sky islands), he wears the same hat with Roger, he has similar characteristics. Yes, I am not saying a unique person here. More like a unique copy.
There's a lot about Roger we still don't know about.
We don't even know if he had some of the same beliefs that Luffy does.
And since this Luffy/Roger shit is annoying the heck out of me (not the actual plot, the comments!) I'll say something about it:
In the end, you'll all say "THIS IS GENIOUS, gOda U RULLL!!!!!!!!!!"
Its pretty obvious there is something behind this whole paralelism. Its not just fate, it must be something about the Will of the D.
And c'mon. Roger fighted with a gun and a sword. Luffy's fighing abilities have nothing to do with roger's. So why would that take away is merit?
Not even the character matches. Luffy wouldn't go all "WHO'S THERE" he would be jumping around screaming "ADVENTURE".
If you're worried about Luffy doing the same things that Roger did, you should have stopped reading literally after the first chapter.
No. because he could totally become the PK without wearing the same hat Roger wore. Or visiting the same places. Or having the same abilities. Or having the same characteristics.
I was referring to the 5th Guildmaster farce actually. Now that was a Mashima troll stunt if anything.
Back to OP, I don't think Oda will throw a Vivi. Unlike Vivi, Jinbe has no reason to stay. If anything, he is persona non grata to FI due to the risk he brings as a wanted criminal, so it works out.
I look forward to chapters of him and Sanji devising strategy in the future. Complete with proper names for the strategies, of course XD
Good to see more remember that Jinbe was out in the sea forest because he was not allowed inside the kingdom because he is a pirate. http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/616/11
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looks at striped pantsStill a bad fashion sense.
It's probably going to look even worse in color. trollface.jpg
I won't be surprised to see it colored in the typical colors that halloween costumes show striped pirate pants= red and Black.
The guy is obviously talking about the concept of fate with Luffy having a strong lineage, being able to hear the voice of all things, the will of D and several prophecies revolving around him in this arc alone. Oda made it a strong point to have all the supernovas and other pirates who are Luffy's level so that this wouldnt be a one dimensional story where no one else in the world had a chance.
Luffy will obviously become pirate king, but whats the point of Kidd's existence if its theres a candidate who already has the same abilities as Roger(voice of all things), the will of D like roger(I will let this slip since BB has it too), and his strawhat. This is what picklejar and others are complaining about, people like Roger have worked just as hard yet he doesn't have the voice of all things, the only people we know with it are Luffy and Roger.
Not according to Whitebeard, he made a cooment to BB during the war that seemed to hint that BB wasn't a true D or didn't live up to the will of D. sorry forgot what chapter/page it was on but it was after BB came out of hiding
There's a lot about Roger we still don't know about.
We don't even know if he had some of the same beliefs that Luffy does.
That is true. However, the more we learn about him the more he resembles Luffy. In fact, every time Roger is brought up he is connected in some way with Luffy.
Hey guys remember how Shanks became Pirate King since he had the SH like Roger and Luffy did. It was the most epic flashback in the series.
Don't understand all the bitching about Roger and Luffy being similar. We've had 648 chapters to come to that conclusion.
This sucks. I need the Raws before I decide on a good translation. The spoiler pictures only showed portions of pages, and we didn't get a complete script to follow.
I dont think we'll get public raws before sat/sun
Don't understand all the bitching about Roger and Luffy being similar. We've had 648 chapters to come to that conclusion.
Exactly, if you don't like it then hop on the Zoro train lol. All hard work right there.
Nothing in OP can compare to Bon Clay's sacrifice at impel down.
That… I'm ashamed. T_T how could I forget it.
@Monkey:
However, the more we learn about him the more he resembles Luffy. In fact, every time Roger is brought up he is connected in some way with Luffy.
Like what everyone else already said, Oda's been connecting the two of them since day one.
EDIT: As for the hard work nonsense, are you guys forgetting that Luffy trained for 10 years, alongside Ace, to perfect his rubber powers?
It's not like he could just perform Gum-Gum Pistol right from the start.
If the manga shows that Roger was too an idiot, a glutton, had a DF, etc. Then Luffy's just a copy of him. Until that happens, Luffy is Luffy, he just going through what is necessary to become the pirate king.
It's already been confirmed that Luffy is the 'chosen pirate' and the one who carries the true 'will of the D' hell,Kureiah(old doctor lady) confirmed this more than 10 years ago