@Gia:
Hmmmm, not really. There's honestly like 5-6 things that they have to settle first. Most of the characters do not feel fully fleshed out in this arc. I think we are entering part 2 of fishman island. Thats just me tho.
I agree. I'm thinking there'll be another 10-15 chapters at least.
I have a feeling we're going to get another full flashback about Joy boy which will probably take anywhere from 6-8 chapters.
Sea kings again? Let's see here….
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! ^See the big puffer one in the lower left corner? Also from chapter 101.Did I forget any other ones?
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2632-5/one-piece/chapter-525.html
There's one with a spotted pattern over here. Not sure if it matches with the one in the Otohime/Tiger flashback.
He's bad with size though….:ninja:
True.
For example: http://www.mangareader.net/103-2341-17/one-piece/chapter-234.html
Only warthog fangs was unacounted for.
I'm not sure… but I remember a warthog fish in the Hachi coverstory... Don't think he's big enough though.
Well better as expected but still not the best chapter… But it had to be done.
Best thing was the beginning with the crew interacting
^ agreed the crew interacting in the being was the best part. I laughed a little to what Brook said
True.
For example: http://www.mangareader.net/103-2341-17/one-piece/chapter-234.html
Actually, thats is quite accurate for the blackbeard pirates, they are all about that size. But, i understand what you mean, especially when i see this one: http://www.mangareader.net/103-17408-7/one-piece/chapter-550.html
Conspiracy Theory # 2: The Sea Kings are observing Luffy after taking a liking to him a LONG TIME ago. They follow Luffy closely behind him each arc making sure he doesn't mess anything up or get messed up.
THEY MOVED MERRY.
thanks for the chapter it's just what i need after a long day of work!!
Now that I see these two size comparison pictures… I could swear Mihawk wasn't that big, especially - compare him to the Marine in front of him. And then Kuma to the other Marines to the side. That's insane.
Same with the Blackbeard Pirates; their size among themselves makes sense - but not compared to the guy standing in front of them. No way Blackbeard is 3x as tall as a grown man, he's double Luffy's size. Oh god I have never realised how extreme Oda's size issues actually are - no pun intended. :ninja:
Haters gonna hate. Truly a satisfying climax, bringing a few things nicely together. We knew Shriahoshi's power would come into it eventually. The fishmen cheering on a human was the most important and momentous aspect of this chapter, though.
The Sea Kings talking was VERY weird, almost Disney-like, but it's wonderful that these huge monsters, which we'd previously seen as mindless beasts, are incredibly wise and intelligent. Adds a whole new dimensions to things. Love that spread of the Straw Hats celebrating, too.
It looks like the Sea Kings are communicating telepathically actually. Assuming they are, it could help explain why Shirahoshi is the only one who can communicate with them.
Well chapters was short but was what I was kinda expecting, I liked the chapter, I didn't expect Noah to be destroyed so.
Curious to see what happens next week.
The interactions were great.
I felt that this was pretty satisfying, actually.
Good chapter. The seakings definitely seem to have something to do with Noah to me.
I'm curious as to if this is the end of the climax, though the appearance of Sea Kings at this point all but confirm it, as with the stopping of Noah. It's just so weird seeing the main villain defeated before his band of cronies.
While the Sea Kings helping seems like its a bit too easy of a resolution, it does seem necessary in introducing Sea Kings as intelligent creatures. I agree with a previous poster that this seems to give Sea Kings a strong comparison with more mystical creatures like Dragons in the One Piece world. This also introduces a more important role Sea Kings will have in the future of One Piece.
Their dialogue also seems to suggest that Shirahoshi's "call" to the Sea Kings is more of a means of talking to them in a special way. She didn't summon them, but rather the Sea Kings listened and decided to help on their own accord. A very interesting distinction, and more preferable to Shirahoshi giving a Tarzan yell calling forth a stampede of Sea Kings.
Something tells me this isn't the "end". I still think Oda will pull another "Thriller Bark" on us :P (Another enemy (Kuma) appearing after the main enemy (Moriah))
Great chapter!
Thank you, Oda.
The arc is coming to an end, but it is fine.
I am relieved for now, because we can close this arc and move on to the interesting stuff:
NEW WORLD.
That's the only thing that matters.
Something tells me this isn't the "end". I still think Oda will pull another "Thriller Bark" on us :P (Another enemy (Kuma) appearing after the main enemy (Moriah))
Yea i see exactly what you mean
its almost exactly the same as tb
but this time instead of the crew being dead tired from all the fighting they are full of energy
But who will be the enemy or is it just that logia guy caribu
This chapter makes the lord of the coast seem like a colossal dick.
For that matter why do these sort of nice creatures keep wrecking shit in the calm belt.
Ahh~ I know this isn't the end. Oda doesn't just build up to nothing.
Awesome chapter but kinda… Empty-ish. But of course this is the One Piece standard. It still got me wanting to shout "STRAWHAT" during class.
Yay, gonna read it again!
This chapter makes the lord of the coast seem like a colossal dick.
For that matter why do these sort of nice creatures keep wrecking shit in the calm belt.
It actually seems like they chose to help shirahoshi or something, it's also possible that not every seaking is good-natured. Honestly no idea about the true nature of the seakings right now. Actually how old could they be being so huge?
For anyone who wants an alternative reading of the chapter, me, rubia_ryu, Sagippio, and the Chinese BBS group have provided (right click to view or save in full size):
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Whether you liked it or loathed it, I can safely say I'm NOT gonna try this again anytime soon, cool as it may be…
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Hey, Zoro's eye-scar is healed!
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/39808484/6 Hooray!
Seeing the smaller sea king with the eyelashes makes me wonder if SanJuanWolf is a seaking-fishman (he has got quite the same eyelashes) though he has no webbings between his fingers.
Don't be so strict with Oda's accuracy in size scales. If u aren't happy with the size differences of the sea kings in Calm Belt and FI, just imagine they have grown a bit or those @ FI are their bigger brothers. Oda hasn't been accurate with sizes for a long time now, so don't count any inch in difference if u are used to it.
Bottom line is: those sea kings are huuuuuuuuge. Period.
IDK what to think bout seakings talking to Shirahoshi like that. Keimi talking to the fish school @ pre-SA felt better to me sumhow.
And what is it up to the sea kings if Noah "survives" or not?
crossed out Well, @ least it didn't seem to me like Luffy could hear the sea kings' voices or understand them @ all. We already have enuff connections to Roger. /crossed out
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Maybe the connection between Noah and the sea kings will be explained in the next chaps. Seeing the sea kings with Noahs chains in their mouths makes me think that they could/should pull the ship, once the promise gets fulfilled.
Conclusio: Me wants a JoyBoy-FB nao! It wouldn't hurt if we learnt a lil from the void century too. 
I never pictured the Sea Kings as sentient beings. I wonder how long they've been alive and how much they've seen. If they know what Noah is for they're probably pretty old. Hoping next week we get an explanation for all this, especially JoyBoy.
For example: http://www.mangareader.net/103-2341-17/one-piece/chapter-234.html
@Gia:
Actually, thats is quite accurate for the blackbeard pirates, they are all about that size. But, i understand what you mean, especially when i see this one: http://www.mangareader.net/103-17408-7/one-piece/chapter-550.html
Its probably just me, but I think Oda made these specific size differences on purpose. They're meant to look terrifying and larger then life for dramatic effect. Also, I do believe that's the first time we ever seen the entire Blackbeard Pirates(at the time) or the entire Shichibukai together(Minus Jinbei and Blackbeard for obvious reasons). I do know what you guys are talking about though.
Anyways good chapter. The Sea Kings are an interesting development, and they seem to be self aware and have some intelligence. Wonder what role they eventually play and what knowledge they truly know. I think they're going to play a bigger role in One Piece then I had originally thought.
Awesome chapter, I really liked it. Soon we're going to the new world :D
I can imagine the sea kings saying ''We're sorry but we hate humans and fishmen'' and drop Noah.
For anyone who wants an alternative reading of the chapter, me, rubia_ryu, Sagippio, and the Chinese BBS group have provided.
Whether you liked it or loathed it, I can safely say I'm NOT gonna try this again anytime soon, cool as it may be…
Awesome! It's so much better than Mangastream's version. Particularly the part where the Sea Kings were talking to Shirahoshi. I was able to understand their conversation better. I know it's such a hassle so thank you for doing this. And of course, thank you to rubia_ryu and Sagippio too! Great job you guys! 
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Some interesting posts I found while discussing this chapter elsewhere. They bring up some good points, figured I could share them with you:
Problem is the rushed pacing. If this arc had Skypeia length, we'd have all the scenes that were skipped or shown briefly, leading to a much better characterization of the Fishmen. This arc felt anticlimatic and void to me because had didn't gave us time to emphasize with most of the new characters.
I remember Oda mentioning that he wants to advance to the NW as quick as possible and is cutting uneccessary scenes in the SBS of volume 61 and in an interview. Ten chapters more could have worked wonders here.
ten less chapters would have worked just as well. How many chapters has Noah been falling for? The entire Noah sequence could have been pulled off in one chapter.
Problem is that he handled different parts with different paces:
The adventure part was too short for me, it should've taken a few more chapters to get to FI and let the crew talk a bit. Skypeia had the Jaya arc, I wouldn't have minded a short Underwater exploration arc.
The exploration of FI was too short as well. We should have gotten at least a map more, see some more locations ang get to know the society a bit better before diving straight to the plot.
The parts up to the flashback were ok for me.
The flashback was ok, albeit the ending felt rushed.
The chapters til the end of the brawl were drawn out while at the same time leaving out iportant details like the escape of Zoro, Brook and Ussop, although we had some good ones with the initial appearances of the SH's.
Falling of Noah was misplaced in this arc, they should've finished the officer battles before Hodi escaped on the arc, it really looks like it was falling at a snails pace here.I can understand Oda, he wants to
a) advance to the NW as soon as possible
2) show off the new strength of the SH's
3) give us a good overview of the problems without stalling
But sadly, the pacing fails massively in this arc. It still has great moments, like the Hodi flashback, some of the new skills, the batshit insane ideas at the beginning, the short exploration parts. But ultimately, it had not the closure of former arcs and the pacing is horrible (although I have my problem with the pacing since ID).
I hope we get some good closure in the next few chapters, and ffs: Let us see the Fishmen dojo, a good map of the whole FI, the location of the FD in relation to it, etc. I want more world-building.
I too was moderately disappointed by this arc, but only with regards to the pacing and combat. All told it's still been a solid arc and extraneous plot kept mercifully brief after the ages we waited to see the rest of the Straw Hats. I view this arc as a necessary evil on the road to the new world.
As for why Jinbei PROBABLY won't join- 2 reasons. First, the crew already has enough super strong fighters and he's kind of a straight man and doesn't quite mesh well. Second, well… he'd make exploring the new world too damn easy. Shit son he's been there already (probably). Luffy wants the trip to be an adventure, not a guided tour.
Still, he's not THAT bad a fit really.
However, this arc had a lot of hype, a more predetermined course/ending (end the cycle of hate through friendship was never played more straight in OP; the direct parellels to Arlong/Sabaody arc, etc.) and of course the need to show differences the timeskip brought forth. It was a given that the SH's would do 80% of the stuff they did this arc, but still: The execution is far worse than Skypeia/Alabasta/Arlong/Water 7/sabaody, and that makes me sad.
Don't be so strict with Oda's accuracy in size scales. If u aren't happy with the size differences of the sea kings in Calm Belt and FI, just imagine they have grown a bit or those @ FI are their bigger brothers. Oda hasn't been accurate with sizes for a long time now, so don't count any inch in difference if u are used to it.
Bottom line is: those sea kings are huuuuuuuuge. Period.
Nowadays I just assume Oda makes certain characters appear so huge for the same reason many video games do it with end bosses and other important characters, just to make them stand out more and for dramatic effect and stuff. Still, it can be a bit distracting in a manga :D
Conis' father is alive? I thought he got obliterated after pushing her out of the way.
The Real Fighters!
I think that not really pacing, but ordering was the problem. The Noah sidestory has been going on for a while in the background, and if it had been put together it would flow nicely. This did sem abrupt, but it has been building…
I'm disappointed Shirahoshi's power was that easily guided, as per prophecy. Now for the great change she was talking about, this is FI-arc part 2. No way this is over just yet, he SH's will face Caribou and find out more about Noah and FI
Great chapter. Those Seaking certainly get around.
I'm really disappointed with this conclusion. I expected much more, some kind of twist or at least more suspense. I think the arc conclusion, probably with the Joyboy flashback (and maybe Jimbei joining), will be more interesting than this arc so far. I don't know if I expected too much, but I can say for sure that I'm not satisfied. Well, art and scenery in this arc was great.
To the chapter:
My take on it.
We get a bunch of pannels of how the NF pirates are lying defeated, than we get a bunch of pannels of people screaming oh the ship is still falling, than a bunch of pannels of people cheering on Luffy, than a short intersection where the mermaid stops Luffy because you know SH boy Sea Kings have arrived, and you were too busy smashing the ship to notice the giants of the sea but ok…
What happens than? We get to see the report being delivered to the island and happy screams...
I mean, idk if it is just me, but the amount of information in this chapter, everything from the dialogue to things actually happening was terrible. And the entire feel, the entire suspense hype or whatever, that was even worse. The sentence of the Sea Kings where they say, if they haven't come the island would have been saved anyway, but the ship destroyed, is supposed to make us feel, that Luffy is really strong anyway...but instead it feels so god damn forced. Not to mention the bit where Luffy passes out. If that bit isn't explained I don't know what than... Because what on earth have I been reading for the past 640+ chapters. In this manga you are supposed to thing people are just about to die and they still somewhat gether the strentgh to do amazing feats. Yet here it felt like, ok Luffy has a small wound he is not exactly 100% but far from passing out as well...and than suddenly wam he is out.
Perhaps I am the only one who feels this way, but whatever this chapter was for me personally one of the worst chapters I remember reading and the only thing that consoltes me now is the fact that it can't get worse and that the story will now probably progress or even if that is not the case, that at least something will happen, let it be the knowledge of the joy boy or anything that basically get's us (me) back to that "wow interesting", state ...
Sorry but this chapter was really poo from where I stand. Not bad, but really really bad.
人事を尽くして天命を待つ
Not to mention the bit where Luffy passes out. If that bit isn't explained I don't know what than… Because what on earth have I been reading for the past 640+ chapters. In this manga you are supposed to thing people will just about die and they still somewhat gether the strentgh to do amazing feats. Yet here it felt like, ok Luffy has a small wound he is not exactly 100% but far from passing out as well...and than suddenly wam he is out.
This is what I hope, too. It was underwhelming, I agree.
Luffy will need blood…
Do you get it? 
The fact that this was done for some greater purpose of the plot, doesn't justify it beeing done sloppy or better to say badly.
人事を尽くして天命を待つ
Luffy will need blood…
Do you get it?
Of course he'll need a blood transfusion, the problem is the inconsistency regarding his shown durability.
This chapter was… awful! I usually save this word for other mangas and try to tone it down with OP, but fuck it, it was terrible.
I don't care about it being anti-climatic, that's the kind of thing that doesn't bother me (I mean, damn, I loved how the Ant arc ended in Hunter x Hunter), my problem with this chapter was another thing. It was simply shameful.
The Sea King lines... embarassing. Seriously, those lines seem to be out of some cartoon for toddlers. "Oh, Princess! We came here because your wish to help was so strong we came to grant it!".
The citizens behavior was always so unrealistic that it hurts! Seriously...
I was trying to not complain so much about this arc, but this week was something special. It made me roll my eyes so much I was afraid they wouldn't stop spinning ever.
Beautiful chapter…aesthetically.
Also, Sea Kings take the place of dragons in this fantasy.
Actually dragons are a confirmed part of the One Piece canon. In the story "Monsters" by Oda, Ryuma slays a dragon. The same Ryuma that will eventually, years after his death, become a zombie on Thriller Bark with Brook's shadow.
Also, the theory that Dragon, Luffy's dad, has a Mythical Zoan Dragon fruit is just to good to deny.
http://www.citymanga.com/wanted_oda_eiichiro_tanpenshu/chapter-4/40-41/
Of course he'll need a blood transfusion, the problem is the inconsistency regarding his shown durability.
It's not the blood, as much the sea water. He's had to use a lot of his strength just to summon enough to beat Hody/Noah.
He isn't dead like the end of EL/TB, but he's probably fatigued.
And he's been bleeding for a while now…
Can Luffy get a blood transfusion? His blood is made of rubber isn't it?
@Lazy:
It's not the blood, as much the sea water. He's had to use a lot of his strength just to summon enough to beat Hody/Noah.
He isn't dead like the end of EL/TB, but he's probably fatigued.
And he's been bleeding for a while now…
Can Luffy get a blood transfusion? His blood is made of rubber isn't it?
The same Luffy that took tanked so much during his fights with Lucci, Oz/Moria, the whole ID/War arc, Crocodile and was shown to be ok after he nearly escaped drowning in Rain Base and several other locations?
Face it, it doesn't add up unless we FINALLY get an explanation on how his new fighting style works in detail and how much it strains his body.
And his blood is rubber…seriously?
The same Luffy that took tanked so much during his fights with Lucci, Oz/Moria, the whole ID/War arc, Crocodile and was shown to be ok after he nearly escaped drowning in Rain Base and several other locations?
Face it, it doesn't add up unless we FINALLY get an explanation on how his new fighting style works in detail and how much it strains his body.And his blood is rubber…seriously?
He's never fought underwater before… I'm pretty sure in the fight he's talked about how his strength has been sapped whenever he goes outside of it, it's not surprising it's tiring. Plus his Gigant Elephant Gatling probably takes a huge amount out of him.
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Could people please stop talking about the weather? :ninja:
I'm not normally this pedantic ok fine i always am but it's climactic. anti-clima**c**tic.
you know, the climax-> climactic as opposed to the climate->climatic. Thanks for attending Juvar's little language&linguistics class.
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ahhhhhhhh im really confused… i thought lufy was supposed to destroy the island?! so whats gonna happen now... anyone got any plausible predictions? :P
"This was a result of a quirk of fate… Hate your destinies, who set me upon your ship like an angel of death."
ahhhhhhhh im really confused… i thought lufy was supposed to destroy the island?! so whats gonna happen now... anyone got any plausible predictions? :P
Caribou puts some steriods in some meat and gives it to Luffy…insighting roid rage.
shrugs
The punk sea kings sneak out of sea king class and smoke in the calm belt, and y'know hassle people who sail by.
rofl. if they get a spot in the next AP torny they'd have my vote.
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