i imagine the 3 armys spreading out, as to make reading the intention impossible. maybe even capture all the nearby citys first. send a 5000 man comander to each city and take it. and ousen focusses on setting up a siege fore the capital.
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@Long:
Also just caught up today love this series
same, caught up recently myself… might do a re-read soon, hehe
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Caught up last week and this was my first weekly chapter. So this is what it's like to be a new One Piece fan.
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@The:
Caught up last week and this was my first weekly chapter. So this is what it's like to be a new One Piece fan.
I started when they where translating the Chapters into english, kinda cool when we had like 3-5 chapters a week… but then going to the 1 chapter a week is kinda hard...
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http://wasabisyrup.com/archives/46iB788kcFQ
Translation from DarkLordOfKichiku(mangafox) ::First we see the other countries. Karin deduces that the Qin's goal is Gyou. She's also sure of that Qin's invasion is certain to fail. Should Qin's invasion of Zhao fall, then Chu and Wei currently stand ready to invade Qin when that happens.
Scene shows Ten, Shin, Mouten and Ouhon. Ten shouts out loud that he has nothing but bad premonitions regarding the whole thing. Mouten chides her, saying that for a strategist to say so out loud is the same as saying that they're commiting suicide. Mouten asks Ouhon for his opinion on the whole thing. After a short silence, he says that it's the commander-in-charge's decison and they have to obey it. The others are uneasy at this.
Scene switches to the Kanki army who are groaning and complaining about things as usually, debating their prospects of victory. Kanki tells them that the Ousen he knows would never start a battle that he cannot win.
Ousen gives orders for the mountain people's army to be spilt into two, with one of those going off to fight a Zhao army.
Later, Ousen gives orders for the whole army to change direction. This creates some confusion as no one in the army understands what Ousen is up to. Turns out that they're attacking a smaller city unrelated to Gyou, with the chapter ending in a fight with that city's garrison…¨ -
I started when they where translating the Chapters into english, kinda cool when we had like 3-5 chapters a week… but then going to the 1 chapter a week is kinda hard...
I read 511 chapters in a week (insane downtime at work). I liked reading 70 chapters a day :/
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@The:
I read 511 chapters in a week (insane downtime at work). I liked reading 70 chapters a day :/
Haha yeah i know, did that also with other mangas… But it was over the time of a few months that you get to read like 5 english chapter a week, that rythmus and you get to see so much and then back to spoilers and 1 chapter a week is harder than speed reading in one week.
http://reader.sensescans.com/read/kingdom/en/47/513/page/1
What is Ousens Plan…
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Other states still underestimating Qin…
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@The:
I read 511 chapters in a week (insane downtime at work). I liked reading 70 chapters a day :/
I did the same last month.
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I read 511 chapters in 2 weeks, 2 weeks ago
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So, what's the plan? Raid other cities and have Kanji do his thing and force movement from Gyou. Maybe take their supplies as they go?
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New chapter is out
! So it is to displace the population around Gyou and deplete the Zhao ressources as well. And I guess further isolating Gyou, by taking the surrounding towns.
I still cant see the merit though: These are just small towns, so it wont cause a huge refugee wave. And as Ten pointed out, the captured ressources (and in the same way the ones that had now be given by the Zhaos to their own people) is not that large and doesnt outweight the ressources spend by the Qin themselves. Lastly, these towns are not garrisoned or destroyed, so they should be easy to be recaptured.
I think/hope there is more to it.
! Also: Damn, the Yan subplot was resolved fast and as expected just to hype that one Zhao general. I had hoped we would see more from the Yan -
http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/47/514/page/1
[hide]"Catch the drift", they do not even need to defend these cities. I am looking forward to what is to come.[/hide]
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Ousen is going to create mass migration in front of Gyou,basically making them a shield.
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those people will need food in the next city, emptying the suplies of those towns, if those people dont revieve food they will gain hate for zhou, wich makes invading moe easy, there might even be soldiers switchings sides.
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The purpose is to have Gyou overburdened with refugees. People who need to be fed but can't fight. Gyou is the closest safe town so the refugees will naturally flow in that direction. It's also possible Ousen planted or will plant some spies among them.
There's probably something else es well.
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The purpose is to have Gyou overburdened with refugees. People who need to be fed but can't fight. Gyou is the closest safe town so the refugees will naturally flow in that direction. It's also possible Ousen planted or will plant some spies among them.
There's probably something else es well.
At the end of the chapter the refugees said they were going to Kun City! Not Gyou.
While the refugees with be a problem to Zhao, in terms of liberty of motion, and of distribution of resources, for Quin they aren't at all.
About the food this is basically the opposite of the poisoning your own food strategy. Quin is "poisoning" Zhao food.
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At the end of the chapter the refugees said they were going to Kun City! Not Gyou.
While the refugees with be a problem to Zhao, in terms of liberty of motion, and of distribution of resources, for Quin they aren't at all.
About the food this is basically the opposite of the poisoning your own food strategy. Quin is "poisoning" Zhao food.
Well Kun City will probably be the nearest city and one of the Castle around Gyou… but considering Ousen word at the and of the Chapter we can be sure that Qin will go for all of the Citys/Castle around Gyou...
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At the end of the chapter the refugees said they were going to Kun City! Not Gyou.
While the refugees with be a problem to Zhao, in terms of liberty of motion, and of distribution of resources, for Quin they aren't at all.
About the food this is basically the opposite of the poisoning your own food strategy. Quin is "poisoning" Zhao food.
I think Ousen is betting on Domino effect.No city have enough provision to suddenly feed twice the amount of people.So wherever these people go the administrators have two choices,either refuse them and become villains to the eye of common people(creating much distrust in the region) or accept and suffer together, the migration continues.I think Ousen needs another one or two cities to be destabilised and the chain reaction will happen.
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At the end of the chapter the refugees said they were going to Kun City! Not Gyou.
While the refugees with be a problem to Zhao, in terms of liberty of motion, and of distribution of resources, for Quin they aren't at all.
About the food this is basically the opposite of the poisoning your own food strategy. Quin is "poisoning" Zhao food.
Yeah, but none of the smaller towns will be able to sustain an increasing number of refugees, especially if they themselves are next in line to be taken. Which is why I think it's inevitable that most of them will end up in Gyou sooner or later.
However, there's probably more to it than just that.
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Yeah, but none of the smaller towns will be able to sustain an increasing number of refugees, especially if they themselves are next in line to be taken. Which is why I think it's inevitable that most of them will end up in Gyou sooner or later.
However, there's probably more to it than just that.
thats part of it, but he's also fighting a psychological fight. He's making the conquered ppl not hate them. they'll be more susceptible to being conquered again. they'll "sabotage" the cities and those will fall. the simple fact that he's being so "kind" will make the ppl at ease. citizens dont wanna die.
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thats part of it, but he's also fighting a psychological fight. He's making the conquered ppl not hate them. they'll be more susceptible to being conquered again. they'll "sabotage" the cities and those will fall. the simple fact that he's being so "kind" will make the ppl at ease. citizens dont wanna die.
The word of mouth will spread fast, and Qin will have less and less trouble taking over towns. Meanwhile Gyou will have more and more mouths to feed. And the morale probably won't be looking too well with all those refugees having positive views on enemy general.
It's really too bad that Ousen most likely just postponed their deaths.
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And with that Ordo becoming something relevant completely disappeared.
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He's invaluable as hype tool.
His time will come. So far he's proven he's not an idiot and is in fact pretty calm and collected in face of unpredicted situations.
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5000 vs 20000 was it?
At this point, I am just wondering what exactly is this hype moving towards.
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Yeah, hard to imagine this Shibashou fellow getting inolved in battles so far from his city. But who knows. He wasn't hyped as being a candidate for a Heavenly General for nothing. Maybe he disproves of current Zhao king, considering he's the worst person ever, and might even rebel against him?
Btw, the lower portion of his face looks identical to Riboku's. Just try matching it to Riboku's nose, mouth and chin from the front, just couple of pages further. What does it mean? Hell if I know.
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Siblings?!?! Jajaja, I did think of the similarities. I just re-read the chapter, I love to see Ten's frustration at seeing what she should be able to do. This war, like the last is going to make her go beyond her limits.
I'll die laughing if Ousen does the same for all nearby cities and then heads back to Retsubi.
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Double post for a good cause:
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Locusts!
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My understanding would be to siege Gyou as the locusts effect is going on, and see which supply runs out first. Part of the plan would be to have one army sieging. Another one supporting Yontawa and last but not least another delaying the reinforcements from Kantan that's if the king allows the troops to move.
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@Tamiel:
My understanding would be to siege Gyou as the locusts effect is going on, and see which supply runs out first. Part of the plan would be to have one army sieging. Another one supporting Yontawa and last but not least another delaying the reinforcements from Kantan that's if the king allows the troops to move.
i can even see kanki being the group responsible of raiding the syply lines of zhou
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Kingdom is on a break?
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There was the Golden Week, I guess.
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i see thank you!
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Eh, I don't buy the locust thing being brilliant as much as I want to.
Remember, the small towns/villages along Gyou only provide food for Qin army as a drop in a bucket.
Multiple that by 10, 100 and it should not pose that huge of a problem to the capital of an entire state.
The area where your country's heart be should not even be having problem resupplying continuously.Also, I'm sick of everyone's shocked face at oh the mighty Ousen's plans.
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Eh, I don't buy the locust thing being brilliant as much as I want to.
Remember, the small towns/villages along Gyou only provide food for Qin army as a drop in a bucket.
Multiple that by 10, 100 and it should not pose that huge of a problem to the capital of an entire state.
The area where your country's heart be should not even be having problem resupplying continuously.Also, I'm sick of everyone's shocked face at oh the mighty Ousen's plans.
To the OH faces, you have to admit that Ousen coming up with that plan on the spot and the troops realizing the objective of the plan only when it is already in motion shows the gap between them in terms of strategies. I am not really bothered by them because none of the the young captains are generals. Once Shin and them become one, I would be very surprised if it still happens as regularly.
On the locust, I agree that it should not affect the capital, but the target is Gyou. The locust is headed to Gyou, which is not as big as the capital. Besides, even if Kantan started sending supplies or the citizens started heading there, as you said they should have enough supplies, I agree with you. However, if you have 7 cities being added to your supply/demand line, then the supply will not be able to restock fast enough to sustain all the mouths to feed. I think this is but a stage prep though. Because at this point, Ousen has managed to give the same weakness his army has (limited supplies) to the enemy faction. That is not to say, if Ousen had a couple of spies within the citizens and they start causing riots or poisoning the supplies, it could lead to many difficult situation to handle besides: just feed the extra people, which in itself already bring troubles. You also have to look at where are you going to place the refugees, riot control even without the spies.
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I don't think destroying or poisoning a significant amount of supplies is an option, considering Qin needs to keep holding Gyou after they take it.
But I've no doubt some spies or saboteurs will join the refugees. It would just be a wasted opportunity. We even have Kanki here, who used a similar tactic himself during the siege of Kankoku pass.
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I agree, I was just throwing in ideas of potential uses for the locust. I think that the increase in population and supply problem alone is enough to balance the situation out. The real interesting part of Ousen's plan comes now.
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I believe we will get a chapter this week. Am I wrong?
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Spoilers are out, should be dropping soon.
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where is spoiler??
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well the entire chapter is out.
http://dmanga.website/manga/kingdom/516/1As far as translated goes I havent had the time to check yet if it is out
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http://reader.sensescans.com/read/kingdom/en/48/516/page/1 Does some strats
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Very good chapter, although I still dont get what exactly would be a problem if they would just leave them in Gyou after it falls and they have already used over 50% of their rations and so on…
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Things are proceeding as many guessed, overflow of population, already having an effect. Now will Ousen go help Yontawa or stop Kantan's reinforcements?
What will the young captains be tasked to do? I don't think staying with Kanki would be exciting, as we already saw as much as they could interact with each other. I wonder what ~that~ which makes them rise higher will be, the craziest I can think is them capturing Kantan.
Also, where is Shibasou's city in respect to Kantan?
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@K.:
Also, where is Shibasou's city in respect to Kantan?
Should be far off northeast, closer to Yan border.
Not close enough, I'd say, but if we're talking multiple days of campaigning, anything is possible.
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It was good, so he would need to be summoned, maybe go to the capital. Houken will be where Shin is at. Great way to promote him as general, by disposing of Ouki's killer.
However, not sure how will Riboku be handled, back when Qin and Zhao made an alliance, I thought for sure Shin and him would fight as commanding generals, but I think Qin is winning this campaign. Unless, Zhao is done for and Ousen recruits Riboku and/or Shibasou
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I love how someone seemingly unimaginative like Ousen can surprise even guys like Kanki and Riboku. Hara managed to put so much more into him under that helmet and frozen facial expression.
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