Chapter 828: 1 and 2

LightningAce

I didn't realize she was a political marriage at the time. But it makes sense that it's the case and lola is the sister. Guess Capone Bege is blood tied to big mam now too. But then we know how this arc's going to be resolved.

Big mam seems the least "evil" of the 3 yonkous outside of red hair. So I assume that she'll think nami's blood bond with lola will be enough, they're "sisters"

Shanks is the only decent guy among the Yonkou, she's a cruel bitch, and Kaido is a nutjob, BB is somewhere in the middle….with a crew full of sadistic murderers....

will-of-R

I know that this is a shonen manga, but Oda defines love and acceptance beautifully

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@Razh:

Damn these last 2 chapters. All I can think of is stuffing my face with chocolate and chocolate pastry. You can practically taste the damn chocolate.

I literally grabbing chocolate from Minimart right now

Mastello

I always thought Lola wasn't Big Mom's daughter because when she gave the vivre card to Straw Hats she said they should go to her mom for help if they were in trouble.

But welp, it's official. Big Mom still doesn't seem too "helpful" though.

wolfwood

@LightningAce:

Shanks is the only decent guy among the Yonkou, she's a cruel bitch, and Kaido is a nutjob, BB is somewhere in the middle….with a crew full of sadistic murderers....

One could argue that Blackbeard is the least awful one, since he doesn't have any major mental issues.

In the sense that pragmatic villainy > Insane cults

flea

I really have the feeling that things cannot go so smoothly with pudding, that she is tricking them all in some way, that slime thing of hers and all… But then again, ive read the chapter a couple times now and there is no signal of her being playing luffy and the rest... She even winks at luffy and he gives her that nakama look, I am confused

jazzflower92

I am still going for the Big Mom is a giantess theory, which would explain why she has all those kids. Also that her having siblings who already have kids of their own, might put a dent in the theory that she and her siblings might not be real people. If they weren't real people then they wouldn't be able to produce children.

And it also shows that Big Mom is already a grandmother at this point as well, which is kind of cool in an evil way.

Fraco

@BlackLegEd:

But everyone in his crew calls him Father.

yeah but .. it's kinda strange still. if that's not likely then capone should be the husband of lolalookalike
@BlackLegEd:

Plus he only met Big Mom during the time skip

we couldn't be sure of that, it's not explicitly stated

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@Maju:

if i remember correctly,he called him godfather,just like all members of his crew do
since we know anyone who is subordinate to big mom has to be bond by blood,and seeing how the lola look-a-like talked to the big gatling guy,we can assume he married her to bind the firetank pirates to big mom's crew

yep, that's the other option. in both cases, capone ended with an awful one

Kizuchan

One Piece doesn't do this, but I wouldn't mind if Pudding and Sanji would get married. They have similar talents and interests and she's really sweet. I suspect the daughter who ran away is Lola.

Looks like the rest of the Vinsmokes (1 and 2) are the worst ones, huh.

Interesting set-up chapter.

Kdom

@Kizuchan:

One Piece doesn't do this, but I wouldn't mind if Pudding and Sanji would get married. They have similar talents and interests and she's really sweet. I suspect the daughter who ran away is Lola.

Looks like the rest of the Vinsmokes (1 and 2) are the worst ones, huh.

Interesting set-up chapter.

Maybe the marriage will just get postponed and Sanji will promise to marry her once their journey is finished. A bit like the laboon promise

Game And Guy

all these sanjis are exactly the harem ive been dreaming of

jazzflower92

And Gemma 66 as shown here is really ruthless. Although from the side they are fighting for, they are seen as liberators. All I can say is that they are pretty merciless to all those who stand in their way.

BlackLegEd

Isn't Big Mom's family bigger than than number Pudding gave?There's seems to be daughter and son in laws and grandchildren.
@Fraco:

yeah but .. it's kinda strange still. if that's not likely then capone should be the husband of lolalookalike

we couldn't be sure of that, it's not explicitly stated

To be fair I just assumed he met during the time skip because it was his first time in the New World.

Kizuchan

@Kdom:

Maybe the marriage will just get postponed and Sanji will promise to marry her once their journey is finished. A bit like the laboon promise

Could be.

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I'm also not a fan of the idea that she's actually evil. With how she's been presented it'd be kinda jarring.

Wintermute

Some of you guys are really mistrustful towards Pudding, just like Pedro. If anything is fishy about her then it's this goddamn slime.

SabZ

I'm still wondering if Pudding was genuine or not. I think she was, that wink she gave Luffy and the smile he gave back was a hint of their friendship alliance. I wonder if this is the arc in which finally gets Sanji hooked up, even to Nami. Though they'd be one of those couples where Nami bosses Sanji around and he accepts anything she says gladly. Main thing is that there's a possible showdown coming up on Whole Cake Island. A number of strong characters will be there, most likely Sanji's father who'll probably be some Tywin Lannister type mfer. I imagine the chaos will start sometime mid-ceremony so Oda can show a royal-type wedding.

Considering how Lola was chasing around guys obsessively you can probably bet she's the runaway sister Pudding is talking about. Also the reveal of why Big Mom is named what she is, damn that's a lot of kids. Can't wait to see Big Mom fight.

I wonder if Oda will switch between Big Mom plot and the Kaido plot. Carrying what Luffy & co are up to as well as the progression with Zoro & co would be something new. It was far too long during Dressrosa when we didn't see half the SH crew. I wouldn't mind Oda switching it up at the right moment, but will he switch with progress already been made or cut to the usual "3 days earlier" and show exactly what happens with Zoro & co as Luffy left Zou.

Been some good developments in the past year. One Piece is returning to form in my opinion, and we're just getting started.

BeariousJones

@wolfwood:

Did you guys see how Pedro silently snuck up behind her and put a blade on her throat?

Jaguars aren't known to do that. Clearly a sign that he's a double sneaky ninja from Wano

@sanji''s_dad:

10/10 i can see bear using this lol.

…no need since you said it......Pedro is just really...really...fast...and quick to use violence...to silence...yawn....

churlyryan

Pekoms is such an idiot if he thinks just two words "Turn Back" is gonna turn Luffy back.

Thank goodness, no "Kung Fu" Chopper appearance.

Waaaah, the B-word appeared in the end.

KageKageKing

Pudding isn't a plain character and we get to see 2 old brothers of Sanji.
This is fine.

Matuzalem

Am I the only one who smells a trap? Prepared by Pudding?

will-of-R

@flea:

I really have the feeling that things cannot go so smoothly with pudding, that she is tricking them all in some way, that slime thing of hers and all… But then again, ive read the chapter a couple times now and there is no signal of her being playing luffy and the rest... She even winks at luffy and he gives her that nakama look, I am confused

One thing that makes me sure she's just purely helping is because she can say"Whi knows the next person mama wants me to marry, might turn out to be more wonderful "
It's really not an easy thing to pull when you met a boy/girl that perfectly has the same hobby and profession that could lift up one another, have abs/very sexy, gentle and caring to you a lot, from high reputation family. Lot more people will fighting for the marriage to happen to them.

So sure she's 80% have a good intention, same here with you.

jazzflower92

From the look of the last panel, his two older brothers seem to be excited about their little brother getting married even though he ran away a long time ago. It makes me wonder even more what made Sanji decide to cut all ties with them, beside the obvious fact that they are a ruthless crime family of mercenaries.

Riccardo

Logpose directions I presume? Maybe some epic navigation movies from Nami

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KageKageKing

@jazzflower92:

From the look of the last panel, his two older brothers seem to be excited about their little brother getting married even though he ran away a long time ago. It makes me wonder even more what made Sanji decide to cut all ties with them, beside the obvious fact that they are a ruthless crime family of mercenaries.

Number 2 called Number 1 a liar about that.

will-of-R

Break until issue 29 means 1 week or 2 weeks then ?

KageKageKing

@will-of-R:

Break until issue 29 means 1 week or 2 weeks then ?

this is issue 27. So no One Piece in Issue 28.

Bon Clay

@Matuzalem:

Am I the only one who smells a trap? Prepared by Pudding?

I hope so, but if it is true she is awesome actor.

K. Kira XXIII

@Bugs:

It feels too ominous to be Jinbe, who would probably explain why they should go back (at least say it was a trap).

But what I find strange is that it looks like the message was clawed into the wall of the bathroom. That makes me think it's from Pekoms.

We know Jinbe was already on Luffy's tail, and we know Big Mom knows the crew is there. We can assume she also knows Pekoms is with them. Big mom could've have ordered Jimbe to capture Pekoms for being a traitor, Jimbe makes a scene in front of Big Mom's subordinates while he is taking Pekoms, and has someone maybe even Pekoms write that message to warn Luffy, but can't be so obvious and tell them everything.iI'm not super hang up on this notion though, I just wanted to say at least 1 wild idea.

Also I think Oda has given us enough hints to know what Germa's 66 past is about, i've just been too lazy to put it together and speculate.

will-of-R

@KageKageKing:

this is issue 27. So no One Piece in Issue 28.

Thank God. Hopefully he get enough rest and his sprained ankle healed completely.

Kasouya

After reading the chapter and this thread.
I propose a poll (to mods ) for Pudding

Pedro side
Luffy, Nami, Chopper, Brook, Carrot side.

just to have fun that's all lol

Kaptayn

@Kfunk:

http://img1.imagilive.com/0616/1427052804693.png

Trump Trump no mi

Haha, nice one.

Another great chapter. I love this Pudding / Sanji relation - it'd be a shame if they didn't end up together, y'know.

KageKageKing

Ending a 2 Years old war in 4 hours sounds very meta isn't it?

uniaka ikuzakas

So this is how they role. Vinsmokes start wars then they ask for money to end the wars.

Demonicpoodle

@Riccardo:

Logpose directions I presume? Maybe some epic navigation movies from Nami

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Aha. I was kind of groggy and tired reading the chapter so this kind of panel slipped me, but it's a classic naive-characters-ideally-planning-something panel. So that will obviously go south. Wonder how long it will take us to reach "tomorrow". The chapter amounts equaling time passage in this series are always pretty unpredictable.

Chapter was decent, was mostly interested in the Sanji marriage portions, and the reactions therein. I was saying last night to someone that Pudding's main purpose was to set up a perfect match that he would then reject in a heartfelt way for his friends. That happened today, woo.

And aw snap a break.

The general upbeat feeling here in our candy paradise is not going to hold out much longer, lol.
Damn I want a chocolate burger.

Massimo D Luffy

Moria's been messing with Big Mom's daughter all this time. He should be glad it was Luffy who defeated his fat ass. Unless Big Mom doesn't give a shit anymore about her runaway daughter.

Obrax

N°1 (Ichiji) look like Lars Alexandersson from Tekken

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And Yonji look alike Steve Fox

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Maju

@Riccardo:

Logpose directions I presume? Maybe some epic navigation movies from Nami

! http://i.imgur.com/uA1NH4o.jpg

yep,ingenious method to go around the usual limits of navigation in the grand line.

jazzflower92

@uniaka:

So this is how they role. Vinsmokes start wars then they ask for money to end the wars.

That's probably a good theory.

mgear

I think Pudding is genuine. I bet in the end, Sanji will tell her to wait for me and I'll come back when my adventure is over. This will probably create some added gag about Sanji trying to stay true to Pudding. Their relationship could become like Kaya & Usopp.

.access timeco.

I doubt Pudding is a traitor, but I will be really glad if I am wrong. Anything for her to not be the generic kawaii girl of the arc.

@Maju:

considering that most of the sbs are made of questions about thing WE internet fans already understood months before,i can assure you there are going to be a tons of readers that will go "whaaaaat?" when it will be confirmed

i myself must say that i though lola was not big mom's doaughter,mainly because the fact that she was an emperor was a pretty big detail to omit, and because we saw another piratess during the was that could have been her mother

my idea was that lola's mother was not going to be nig mom,but one of the pirates under her,and a guest at the wedding..and they would have used her to infiltrate the wedding somehow.

but i was wrong

Well, it can still be a red herring. I would put past Oda to do it.

Finn

Not sure if the first brother has the ability to "command" ala Kilgrave and Shinsou (Boku No Hero) people or that the grunts are extremely loyal.

Can't wait to see the patriarch of the Vinsmoke Family now, since I'm pretty sure that's who the brothers were talking to at the end of the chapter.

chaosceptor

43 husbands. Damn. Big Mom is a Big Thot.
Also, just gonna bring up more shit and throw Edward Newgate as having hit that and resulted in Jewelry Bonney. Just gOda making it come full circle.

jazzflower92

I still go with the theory that Newgate was infertile. But I gotta say that Big Mom is really fertile to have so many children.

BellisarioFaith

I have to say, when I saw the dialogue where Nami says "Are you sure? Won't Big Mom punish you?" and Pudding answers "I'm still her daughter. Don't worry about me," I got uncomfortable déjà vu to the last conversation between Rocinante and Law, where Cora-san's like "Doffy'll be mad, but I'm still his brother, he won't kill me." Somehow I don't think Big Mom's gonna go easy on anyone, not even her children, who defy her in such a way. I know Pudding almost certainly won't die because she's not a flashback character, but still, I hope this whole ordeal doesn't leave her totally scarred for life.

jazzflower92

@BellisarioFaith:

I have to say, when I saw the dialogue where Nami says "Are you sure? Won't Big Mom punish you?" and Pudding answers "I'm still her daughter. Don't worry about me," I got uncomfortable déjà vu to the last conversation between Rocinante and Law, where Cora-san's like "Doffy'll be mad, but I'm still his brother, he won't kill me." Somehow I don't think Big Mom's gonna go easy on anyone, not even her children, who defy her in such a way. I know Pudding almost certainly won't die because she's not a flashback character, but still, I hope this whole ordeal doesn't leave her totally scarred for life.

Yeah, that is what I am feeling here as well. It really feels like a dark foreshadow for things to come.

Don_Freecs

Nah, the whole difference is that Rosinante was lying to a 10years-old kid. He knew that he would kill him, because he already killed his father. Pudding has no reason to sacrifice herself. This little comment foreshadows how much she cares about her children. Which means she cares about Lola and she will be nice with Luffy.

Hanz

pudding is acting suspiciously too kind. i had a feeling she's gonna betray the strawhats. but after asking them to meet her at that certain point, im sure she's setting them up for a trap.
and chopper was gonna kill me with how cute he is when he was looking at that chocolate pasta.

Kisoto

I'm kind of in love with the fact that (for the moment), Sanji really does have the messed up eyebrows in his family. It makes his spats with Zoro (and I guess Wanze?) all the most amusing because he probably get bothered about it as a kid. Also a bit curious about how old Yonji and any possible younger siblings might have been when he left because Sanji might not have had long or any interactions with them. On that, the Cyborg009 feel is so great to the Vinsmokes, so I'd be really pleased if there did end up being more siblings towards the vicinity of that number~

Tezin

Yo guys I've been lurking for awhile…don't know why I chose now but I was surprised nobody pointed it out but it's obvious that purin has never met sanji. First off last chapter when we are introduced to her is the same chapter that Big mom asks if sanji has arrived, if he was there for awhile then she would know so he had no time to teach purin about any sweets. Second Purins description of sanji is ripped straight from his bounty poster...the key line is "I hear his legs are black"...she's never seen them she just knows his epitaph is black leg. Third the black silhouette is a indication that she doesn't have a accurate depiction of his full body

SquallL

I am sure that Pudding is yandere

.access timeco.

@Finn:

Not sure if the first brother has the ability to "command" ala Kilgrave and Shinsou (Boku No Hero) people or that the grunts are extremely loyal

In that panel you can see three hands holding the gun, so it's more like he pointed the gun back at the guy suggesting he should kill himself instead of dying by his enemy's hands.