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The best episode of the arc, perfect music, perfect art, perfect script, really well done and shows how really is it OnePiece.
Emotions handled well. Animation was above average. Good stuff overall.
.. you know, aside from the fact they're at a one chapter one episode rate. Which is bloody awful.
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Wow, the first half was quite good, but they obviously bumped up the animation budget for the second half, and it was amazingly beautiful how emotional it felt. Jinbe, you da Fish-Man!
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I liked it. It still felt a bit slow (1 Chp per episode naturally), but overall I think they picked good parts to stretch out so it didn't feel like it dragged too much. They also hit the emotional tone well in both parts of the episode.
I'm a bit worried about next episode though.
! Like 2/3rds of that chapter was taken up by Hodi's broadcast, and it ended with the Luffy vs Jinbe cliffhanger, so Toei's going to have to stretch alot to make it fit. Hopefully they'll combine it with parts of 630 (where we meet the NFP crew) to help it out.
Good ep. I don't like a good deal of the Fishman Island arc, but I think we tend to overlook how solid of a character Fukaboshi was.
Enjoyable episode, as someone above said, it didn't feel too stretched out, I like how Luffy always falls asleep on flashbacks, he doesn't care about the past, somehow he knows whom he has to kick.
@Miss:
Emotions handled well. Animation was above average. Good stuff overall.
.. you know, aside from the fact they're at a one chapter one episode rate. Which is bloody awful.
It was handled just fine. I can see complaining about the pacing in, say, some of Impel Down's episodes or a few in Marineford, but what's happened in this flashback has been just fine. Even though I felt the flashback itself in the manga was too long anyway, I have no complaints as to how it was handled. I didn't feel there were any stretched scenes at all. What you people want is to have the chapters all crammed into three or four episodes, but this flashback would have lost its impact if that were done. Hopefully they will speed it up a bit in the coming battles, because it's during the battles that the stretching feels bad in the anime.
Great episode overrall. Good choice in music.
However, I would have avoided making a fanservice shot at Nami's rear when she was having an emotional discussion with Jinbe.
I'm impressed with the choice of music used in this episode. They tend to play more unmemorable songs nowadays, but the music in this one is part of what makes some OP anime scenes so effective. The Neptune scene, Fukaboshi's speech, and Nami forgiving Jinbe were done very well.
The episode itself looked good too. Oh… getting into the second half of the episode right now... the characters are actually moving, what is this… I wish the anime always looked this nice. Beautifully done, this is an episode I might actually rewatch one day.
I enjoyed the music choices this episode as well. My favorite part was the moment with Nami and Jinbei, it was very heartwarming. Jinbei was actually adorable when he said he wasn't crying. I never thought I'd say that, lol. Just an okay episode overall, it felt reallyslow, but that's understandle for the chapter it was covering.
I could've punched Sanji in this episode. Good thing Nami handled the whole thing well.
Great episode, i nearly shed tears of manliness when jinbe broke down. The animation was great too for that scene, and it all only further cements why hes one of my favorite characters.
Sanji is getting annoying now. How ever the episode was great, normally don't like the super emotional episodes but this one was done really well.
Only thing did anyone else notice black/ dark ring's around his eyes kind of?
Jinbe playing the poor guy and trying to make other people feel sorry for him annoys me to no end. its like he is the victim instead of Nami. what a bland, unbearable character. thank god he finally shut the hell up.
Jinbe playing the poor guy and trying to make other people feel sorry for him annoys me to no end. its like he is the victim instead of Nami. what a bland, unbearable character. thank god he finally shut the hell up.
Uh. He's not trying to make anyone feel sorry for him, it's obvious he regrets he let Arlong go to East Blue. Arlong was like a brother to him and he just couldn't bring himself to stop him.
That and Nami didn't hate him for acting like he did nor because he was a fishman. It's said right in the episode, what's so bad about that?
Jinbe playing the poor guy and trying to make other people feel sorry for him annoys me to no end. its like he is the victim instead of Nami. what a bland, unbearable character. thank god he finally shut the hell up.
I don't get how you can feel that way. He's truly regretting what he's done and he was willing to even let Nami take his life. That hardly makes him a bland, unbearable character at all.
I'll have to agree on Sanji being an ass this episode. Still a good character for me all around, and I can relate to his chilvalry and whatnot, but he went too far there.
This was a good episode except for a few weird fan service moments.
Nami's rear during the Jimbei speech didn't make any sense, and why did Shirahoshi's breast
become massive towards the end of the episode?
I remember people complaining about the way Sanji acted during the manga, so it doesn't bug me too much this time around.
The art was good though.
Personally I don't get the comments of Nami getting a fanservice shot. No attention was called to it, it was just there, and not in a provocative way or anything. It's not like she was bending over with her butt arched up against the screen or something like that.
Anyway, a good conclusion to the flashback, and the animation for the Jimbei-Nami scene was great. But yeah, this arc was definitely not Sanji's arc. I do miss the pre-Thriller Bark Sanji, who was less of an asshole during moments like these and could actually control his vices when things were serious.
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Personally I don't get the comments of Nami getting a fanservice shot. No attention was called to it, it was just there, and not in a provocative way or anything. It's not like she was bending over with her butt arched up against the screen or something like that.
Anyway, a good conclusion to the flashback, and the animation for the Jimbei-Nami scene was great. But yeah, this arc was definitely not Sanji's arc. I do miss the pre-Thriller Bark Sanji, who was less of an asshole during moments like these and could actually control his vices when things were serious.
It certainly was distracting and not a coincidence. I could not read the subtitles lol.
Sanji's become a fuckin' blight in every scene he's in for a while now. He's so obnoxious and over the top that it's not even funny anymore. No, really, it's not; somebody tell Oda these mindless-women-idiot moments are no longer necessary.
Remember when he was still chivalrous while balancing the suave Mr. Prince side?
Oh, and for the love of everything that's holy – when are they going to stop inflating Chopper's head? It looks bad enough in the manga, but during a few shots of this episode he looked downright disgusting. It's like a talking lollipop with a hat on.
I miss the Sanji seen in Baratie and Little Garden/Alabasta.
But it doesn't ruin the show or anything.
Sanji's been fine since the end of the FI arc, but yes, the arc in general was his lowlight.
Very well-directed an animated episode–especially the latter part during Jinbei's tearful scene with some of the fullest subtle animation in recent memory from this series. Slow pacing worked fine for this episode.
I also was impressed by the scene with King Neptune coping with the loss of his wife and internal struggle. The voice actor for that character had a remarkably good range for that scene.
But yeah, this arc was definitely not Sanji's arc. I do miss the pre-Thriller Bark Sanji, who was less of an asshole during moments like these and could actually control his vices when things were serious.
That's a good way of putting it–Sanji's character seems to be in a sort in the middle of a metamorphasis of sorts, being either extremely irritable or a complete nut. I don't mind it much personally in this arc.
However, he seemed less dickish in this episode. It came off more as a hot-blooded outburst out of blind loyalty to Nami that was quickly diffused by Nami's interruption. Nothing to really get riled up over. His reaction to Luffy's sleeping was pretty in-character.
Episode was meh. Idgaf about these flashbacks, I just wanted it over with. Oh and I officially hate Sanji, along with Nami. His personality is super annoying. The love-cook thing is old and treating the ladies 10x better than the captain is not cool. I also hate that in life and death situations, all he can think about is saving Robin and Nami, but doesn't care about Luffy. Imo he's been annoying for a very long time ._. Nami wasn't a b*tch in this episode though, so that's a plus
Episode was meh. Idgaf about these flashbacks, I just wanted it over with. Oh and I officially hate Sanji, along with Nami. His personality is super annoying. The love-cook thing is old and treating the ladies 10x better than the captain is not cool. I also hate that in life and death situations, all he can think about is saving Robin and Nami, but doesn't care about Luffy. Imo he's been annoying for a very long time ._. Nami wasn't a b*tch in this episode though, so that's a plus
Sigh, at everything.
Sanji chooses to save Nami and Robin over the men of the crew, yes, because that's HIS CHARACTER. If you don't like this about him, then you "officially" hated Sanji the minute he joined the crew.
And no, he doesn't not care about Luffy. How many times has Sanji jumped in after Luffy when Luffy fell overboard?
I'm not even gonna touch the Nami comment, I can already tell you are completely misled by the recently sloppy characterizations in the anime, and you've lost sight of the original characters. I suggest re-reading the recent arcs in the manga before you start hating the whole crew.
Episode was meh. Idgaf about these flashbacks, I just wanted it over with. Oh and I officially hate Sanji, along with Nami. His personality is super annoying. The love-cook thing is old and treating the ladies 10x better than the captain is not cool. I also hate that in life and death situations, all he can think about is saving Robin and Nami, but doesn't care about Luffy. Imo he's been annoying for a very long time ._. Nami wasn't a b*tch in this episode though, so that's a plus
Nami stopped being a "Bitch" ever since the time skip started.
I'm impressed with the choice of music used in this episode. They tend to play more unmemorable songs nowadays, but the music in this one is part of what makes some OP anime scenes so effective. The Neptune scene, Fukaboshi's speech, and Nami forgiving Jinbe were done very well.
Uh. He's not trying to make anyone feel sorry for him, it's obvious he regrets he let Arlong go to East Blue. Arlong was like a brother to him and he just couldn't bring himself to stop him.
That and Nami forgave him. It's said right in the episode.
Now, this is where I think there might be some confusion: it's not Nami forgiving Jinbe, it's Nami saying Jinbe doesn't need forgiveness since he didn't do anything wrong. That's why the scene is so moving: she's not letting her hatred of Arlong dictate her feelings for other Fish-men, which is precisely what Tiger and Queen Otohime were trying to say about humans.
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Now, this is where I think there might be some confusion: it's not Nami forgiving Jinbe, it's Nami saying Jinbe doesn't need forgiveness since he didn't do anything wrong. That's why the scene is so moving: she's not letting her hatred of Arlong dictate her feelings for other Fish-men, which is precisely what Tiger and Queen Otohime were trying to say about humans.
Oh right, whoops. I meant that, I just phrased it wrongly. Sorry. I really should reread my posts after I post them.
Now, this is where I think there might be some confusion: it's not Nami forgiving Jinbe, it's Nami saying Jinbe doesn't need forgiveness since he didn't do anything wrong. That's why the scene is so moving: she's not letting her hatred of Arlong dictate her feelings for other Fish-men, which is precisely what Tiger and Queen Otohime were trying to say about humans.
I admittedly wasn't paying much attention to the dialogue at that part. My mistake, lol.
@Miss:
Sanji's become a fuckin' blight in every scene he's in for a while now. He's so obnoxious and over the top that it's not even funny anymore. No, really, it's not; somebody tell Oda these mindless-women-idiot moments are no longer necessary.
Remember when he was still chivalrous while balancing the suave Mr. Prince side?Oh, and for the love of everything that's holy – when are they going to stop inflating Chopper's head? It looks bad enough in the manga, but during a few shots of this episode he looked downright disgusting. It's like a talking lollipop with a hat on.
Hahaha agree with all. I gotta say I'm used to Chopper's role officially becoming cliche adorable pet thing, since it plays to Robin's love of him even better (knowing that she has a soft spot for cute things). I kind of made a sub-story in my mind to justify it, where Chopper is acting this way soley for Robin's attention. 
Sanji seemed fine in THIS episode though. I remember the manga chapter being a little more annoying for some reason…
Now, this is where I think there might be some confusion: it's not Nami forgiving Jinbe, it's Nami saying Jinbe doesn't need forgiveness since he didn't do anything wrong. That's why the scene is so moving: she's not letting her hatred of Arlong dictate her feelings for other Fish-men, which is precisely what Tiger and Queen Otohime were trying to say about humans.
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Very nice and moving chapter, and the pace was just fine! It has been a long time since i was moved by a OP episode that i have read in the mange beforehand… Anyone else feeling that Nami is drawn very awkward and that she isn't like the pre time-skip Nami at all (not talking about hair obviously)?
All the complaints about mild Shonen fanservice and Nami and Sanji are ridiculous. I admit the rear shot wasn't necessary, but it's not like they had her bending over waving it in our faces for half the episode. That would be a point even I would agree. The fact of the matter is Nami has a mature woman's body, so if they're going for realism during a backside shot of Nami, well, you get where I'm going with this. I personally prefer that to really strange looking backshots.
Anyway, away from the discussion of fanservice to something more important. While maybe "ridiculous" is a bit too strong for Sanji's case, as he has annoyed me a bit up until the nose bleeds stopped in the manga/anime, he seems to be getting back on track after this arc. I can appreciate his character and the argument that he doesn't care about the men IS ridiculous. For comedy's sake and for his own personality, he does act like he only cares about the ladies, but he's shown during very serious scenes that he DOES give a damn about the crew. Examples include, but are not limited to, his interaction with Usopp during Enies Lobby when he helped Usopp realize his own worth, his scene with Zoro where he was willing to give up his own life to save both Luffy and Zoro in Thriller Bark, and more recently his determination to help Luffy when he learned of Ace's death. Those who say he does not care about Luffy and the rest of the crew need to pay more attention to the series, because it's been shown many times.
As for Nami, though she may act a bit "bitchy" at times, she has shown she cares deeply about the crew on many occasions and should not be criticized for her actions. Yes, she is greedy for money, but she's a pirate. Considering what she went through with money, she should be allowed to steal for herself a bit. That aside, as others said, she seems a bit softer after the time skip, and I think we will see that a bit more as the series heads toward its end.
Sigh, at everything.
Sanji chooses to save Nami and Robin over the men of the crew, yes, because that's HIS CHARACTER. If you don't like this about him, then you "officially" hated Sanji the minute he joined the crew.
And no, he doesn't not care about Luffy. How many times has Sanji jumped in after Luffy when Luffy fell overboard?
I'm not even gonna touch the Nami comment, I can already tell you are completely misled by the recently sloppy characterizations in the anime, and you've lost sight of the original characters. I suggest re-reading the recent arcs in the manga before you start hating the whole crew.
Imo the captain should definately come first. I probably did hate him since he joined, but i've been trying this whole time to enjoy his character like other people, but I can't. I guess that's why I have opinions Also you're probably right about being misled. Im not caught up in the manga, Im only on chapter 10 or something. My post was overthetop though, so sorry
Great episode.
Jinbe is indeed the man, but Nami rules the whole arc.
As for Sanji being the dick of the crew now, I guess I ranted enough about that in the manga. He was always somewhat hotheaded and aggressive, but he always, at any time - kept his cool when it was appropriate. Starting to act like a bitch during Nami's & Jinbe's redeeming moments is certainly not.
But whatever, I just want to tell the anime-only people to not get their hopes up anytime soon, because:
Sanji's been fine since the end of the FI arc, but yes, the arc in general was his lowlight.
…is certainly not the case.
! We are a handful of chapters into the new arc and what is Sanji doing? Bitching about saving a couple of kids (and he keeps hating on them up until now). He is the negative pole of the crew now, probably necessary as a "storytelling device" to reflect certain situations from both sides. That's why I think that Oda basically sacrificed his character (in order to tell his story the way he wants).
Episode was meh. Idgaf about these flashbacks, I just wanted it over with.
I believe you're one of those "I want nothing but action" guys, yes? Because if you are, why even bother with OP?
If anything, OP flashbacks are the ones anyone should never miss out on.
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I think the people who are saying Sanji doesn't care about Luffy are WAY off.
If he didn't care about Luffy, why did he stand up and try to offer himself to Kuma at Thriller Bark?
In the current Manga arc I don't see too much wrong with Sanji's character.
As for Sanji being the dick of the crew now, I guess I ranted enough about that in the manga. He was always somewhat hotheaded and aggressive, but he always, at any time - kept his cool when it was appropriate. Starting to act like a bitch during Nami's & Jinbe's redeeming moments is certainly not.
True, but this is sort of explained in-story. Sanji's 2-year stay with the Okama's understandably made him a lot more irritable and woman-crazy than he was before. I do admit I don't like the new Sanji as much as the old, Chivalrous and Woman-crazy one though.
However, in keeping with his nose-bleed thing from the start of the post-time-skip arc, it could be temporary.
I may be alone with this, but overall, this flashback won a nice place in my heart. One of the best.
Imo the captain should definately come first. I probably did hate him since he joined, but i've been trying this whole time to enjoy his character like other people, but I can't. I guess that's why I have opinions
No I have to admit and agree with a previous comment that characters are becoming 2-dimensional in the anime. Sanji has his moments, but when he's given the spotlight he usually blows it with mellorine moments.
This episode he seemed fine though, I don't get what everyone is upset about.
Also the 'fanservice" everyone is talking about is probably more about Shirahoshi's ever-changing bra size than anything, but imo it was the lower angle that made them look the size of Marineford (though they probably aren't far from it…)
Actually, the one goofy moment he had in the chapter, where he assumes Nami's talking about him, was cut out of the episode:
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No I have to admit and agree with a previous comment that characters are becoming 2-dimensional in the anime. Sanji has his moments, but when he's given the spotlight he usually blows it with mellorine moments.
I find this argument to be very weak. I read the manga and watch the anime, and while I would agree the manga as a whole is better (which is usually the case outside of Bleach), to say the characters' personalities are being butchered in the anime just doesn't make any sense. The characters are just the same in both versions.
I find this argument to be very weak. I read the manga and watch the anime, and while I would agree the manga as a whole is better (which is usually the case outside of Bleach), to say the characters' personalities are being butchered in the anime just doesn't make any sense. The characters are just the same in both versions.
Maybe it's all the Anime-related promotions, movies, and fillers that make me feel this way, but the characters aren't the same anymore. I think ever since the time skip started it's all felt a little different…I don't feel this way about the anime up until recently though.
Maybe it's all the Anime-related promotions, movies, and fillers that make me feel this way, but the characters aren't the same anymore. I think ever since the time skip started it's all felt a little different…I don't feel this way about the anime up until recently though.
You also need to look at this from a realistic plot and character advancement point. Though it may seem like a lifetime (10 years for us), the Strawhats only spent at most a few months together pre-timeskip. That was the total length of their grand journey. People change; especially within a gap of them being separated for longer than they've known each other. Every Strawhat had their own self-reflective little adventure and matured from it – in a way,they are different people.
Physically, my issue is only with the women of the group, who Oda is drawing more generic than ever - especially Nami. Also Chopper.. but I bitched about that already.
Point is, you're not crazy in noticing change. It is there in every aspect from the way they look to the way they act. This isn't bad; change is what keeps things alive.
Maybe it's all the Anime-related promotions, movies, and fillers that make me feel this way, but the characters aren't the same anymore. I think ever since the time skip started it's all felt a little different…I don't feel this way about the anime up until recently though.
@Miss:
You also need to look at this from a realistic plot and character advancement point. Though it may seem like a lifetime (10 years for us), the Strawhats only spent at most a few months together pre-timeskip. That was the total length of their grand journey. People change; especially within a gap of them being separated for longer than they've known each other. Every Strawhat had their own self-reflective little adventure and matured from it – in a way,they are different people.
Physically, my issue is only with the women of the group, who Oda is drawing more generic than ever - especially Nami. Also Chopper.. but I bitched about that already.
Point is, you're not crazy in noticing change. It is there in every aspect from the way they look to the way they act. This isn't bad; change is what keeps things alive.
If you want to argue the characters have changed in both the manga AND anime, that's a different story. Clearly there are differences after the time skip, but I've already gotten used to them. A few things that bugged me at first were Nami, Franky, and Chopper's new designs, but they work well once you get past the shock factor.
But to say they are completely different in the anime versus the manga is a completely different argument that does not work at all. Even with the fillers, which some are hit and miss as far as plot goes, I've never seen One Piece fillers do anything to make a character act out of character. Yes, they screwed up with a few PLOT points, which created plot holes for the anime canon, but that's also a different story. All in all, the characters are the same in the anime as in the manga. For argument's sake, the only characters I would be willing to discuss on this matter are characters like Hancock and Buggy that were used as filler generators during the war, which may give viewers a different interpretation, but even then I don't think they acted OUT of character, just hammed up their character traits far too much.
Hang in there, Kierkegaard.
