Bon Clay alive =D, I always knew he was alive, it's a pity he's spent the last 2 years in impel down though.
Chapter 666: Yeti Cool Brothers
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@krule274:
Well all of those things sound dandy to me, but you can't say there's nothing to hate when we no hardly anything about these bros. We did get a nice big info page from Brownbeard ( http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v60/c666/11.html ) containing some of the following:
-They're great killers that get the job done
-They have huge footsteps and low voices
-They're hair giants
-They appear in the blizzards(they fight well in the snow)
-Their names are Scotch and Locke(or Rock)
-They're 25 and hail from a snow countryThat is a good chunk of information to get out of just one page, but overall it's not that much. It certainly would be nice to know about who they really are, and how notorious they are in the New World. But so far they seem to be cool characters, and I agree, they have sweet hats.^^
And I'm really curious to see what CC's gonna do with Franky.
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Stating a prediction off of a prediction here, but if he was able to remove others souls, then maybe it would be immune to haki, and maybe to Yeti Cool Brothers have haki.
The other one is the brother of that kaido gunner dude that drake the dinosaur zoan went against on that winter island in the new world also we already have brownbeard who was defeated by a supernova in the new world as well so Oda was just giving us a sneak peak of the people the crew would fight on their first island before the time skip!
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I hope buggy is the mysterious Joker
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You want buggy to have turned into the guy who helps CC kidnap innocent kids and random pirates to feed them meth and experiment on?
Who also works for the Marines..
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@Foxdie:
I hope buggy is the mysterious Joker
I kind of doubt a Shichibukai would have the power to cover up a VA's death and falsify newspaper articles.
Smoker and Tashigi made it sound like the traitor is actually from G5, whether they're a marine or otherwise. -
I think Law will ally with the marines and turn them back to normal in exchange for their help!
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The yeti cool brothers remind me a lot of chopper's monster point. Maybe possibly they have been fed some of the candy Caesar Clown has made. And maybe possibly they have the same effects as the rumble ball.
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@Foxdie:
I hope buggy is the mysterious Joker
The last thing I want is for Joker to look like a clown. I can just imagine everyone in normal uniform looking just like fodder, and in walks a guy dressed like a clown. All the while everyone is wondering who the mole is.
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Took an 8 week break from one piece, just read chaps 660 - 666 on Wednesday. They were all so great. This chapter was interesting too, I'm glad that brownbeard died…goon
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So what if Nami accidently uses the radical beam and blasts her captors to kingdom come?
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I guess that was a mistranslation from Manga Stream, though. CCC's translation mentions nothing about one of them being left behind to deal with the rest.
Oh, that's right, even the brazilian translation didn't mention it.
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Hey, Nami-in-Franky is gone and odds are Sanji-in-Nami will come back. In that case, what's Sanji going to to with Nami's body now that Nami is gone?
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Hey, Nami-in-Franky is gone and odds are Sanji-in-Nami will come back. In that case, what's Sanji going to to with Nami's body now that Nami is gone?
Fight to the best of his ability to try and prevent her body from getting injured?
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ehm, i don't think the mysterious joker is buggy.
maybe joker is the new character.I think they are talking about Don Flamingo. He seems like a "Joker-type."
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Took an 8 week break from one piece, just read chaps 660 - 666 on Wednesday. They were all so great. This chapter was interesting too, I'm glad that brownbeard died…goon
They were clearly interrupted, so he's obviously not dead. See, there's a difference between "mostly dead", and "all dead".
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Took an 8 week break from one piece, just read chaps 660 - 666 on Wednesday. They were all so great. This chapter was interesting too, I'm glad that brownbeard died…goon
Dude, screw you. Do you have no heart? Did you see how heartbroken Brownbeard was when he heard CC's voice on the recorder? ;_;
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They were clearly interrupted, so he's obviously not dead. See, there's a difference between "mostly dead", and "all dead".
For that matter, how many people have died in One Piece without some "I'm about to die, let me reflect on my life" monologues? Not many . . .
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I want to see CC in the cold wastes of PH (probably due to Luffy sending him flying) and BrownBeard clubbing him over the head with a stick.
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Now that the anime reminded me again how horrible Sanji behaves since the TS…
Do you guys think he will be the one fighting Monet (in Nami's body)?
He has 2 established principles:
- Don't hurt a woman
- Never use your hands for fighting
He "violated" his second rule against Wanze, since that guy was using food as a weapon. Maybe he makes an exception for the first rule as well, since he is now in the body of a woman?
It seems that he never had anything against woman/woman fights..
Edit: Actually, even arial combat would be possible, at least if Sanji's strength carried over.
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It would be stupid as fuck if the strenght is transfered as well… It wouldn't make any sense for Law doing such as stuff if nothing changes besides your boob size
And with Nami's body there is no way for Sanji to use his fighting style. It is all about physical strenght... And Nami well hasn't much. If anything he has to be able to use the clima tact
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If anything he has to be able to use the clima tact
This would make less sense, because the Clima-Tact relies on quick wittedness and knowledge of the weather.
Usopp built the damn thing, and he knows less about it than Nami, LOL. -
Now that the anime reminded me again how horrible Sanji behaves since the TS…
Do you guys think he will be the one fighting Monet (in Nami's body)?
He has 2 established principles:
- Don't hurt a woman
- Never use your hands for fighting
He "violated" his second rule against Wanze, since that guy was using food as a weapon. Maybe he makes an exception for the first rule as well, since he is now in the body of a woman?
It seems that he never had anything against woman/woman fights..
Edit: Actually, even arial combat would be possible, at least if Sanji's strength carried over.
Being in a woman's body doesn't stop Sanji from thinking like a man.
Sanji is pretty much doomed to be a liability until all the swapped Strawhats meet Law again. He can't use kicks properly because Nami's body is too fragile and he can't use the Clima-Tact because he's not knowledgeable enough about the weather.
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Now that the anime reminded me again how horrible Sanji behaves since the TS…
Do you guys think he will be the one fighting Monet (in Nami's body)?
He has 2 established principles:
- Don't hurt a woman
- Never use your hands for fighting
He "violated" his second rule against Wanze, since that guy was using food as a weapon. Maybe he makes an exception for the first rule as well, since he is now in the body of a woman? It seems that he never had anything against woman/woman fights..
Edit: Actually, even arial combat would be possible, at least if Sanji's strength carried over.
No way would Sanji's strenght carry over it is a phsiycal aspect that took years of training to acchieve, not a will-based ability like haki. For it to 'carry over' would cheapen Sanji's years of training. Yes, he use martial arts in Nami's body and as such do things she would not be able to do, but he would not have the same affect as if he was in his own body. That said, since the 'sky walk' thing does seem to be a will-based ability he I think Sanji can do that.
No Sanji would not make an expection to Monet's being a woman. Don't forget that after Sanji fought Wanze, he encountered Kalifa, he blocked her kicks but did not really fight her, refused to hit her and Nami had to take on Kalifa because Sanji's instance not to fight a woman got his ass kicked.
Being in a woman's body doesn't stop Sanji from thinking like a man.
Sanji is pretty much doomed to be a liability until all the swapped Strawhats meet Law again. He can't use kicks properly because Nami's body is too fragile and he can't use the Clima-Tact because he's not knowledgeable enough about the weather.
Ageed while in Nami's body his martial arts is down to an average person's ability due to Nami's body not having the same strenght as his. When I say 'average person' I mean just that, any person, not the average person with normal strenght who has studied martial arts. Because Nami hasn't done that and hasn't developed those muscles.
I would like to consider that him being a male in a female body is also a liabity…and not due his perversion. A man's sense of balance is higher than a woman's is. Also consider that women have a different gait when walk/runing than men due to hips are wider. It does affect how we walk, esp if have really 'big hips'. Just look at a scetch of skeletons, the female's legs form a triangular shape (hence the swaying hips) while men's are striaghter.
I said "I would to like to" but as this is manga it falls under "cartoon physics" so it's not an issue as we already seen. But think if the hilairty if it was! I, for one, would have a laugh if they spent a few moments stumbbling around grumbling about "what the hell did he do to my sence of balance?" Or when Sanji tried to do a head stand while kicking and messing up?
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I would like to consider that him being a male in a female body is also a liabity…and not due his perversion. A man's sense of balance is higher than a woman's is. Also consider that women have a different gait when walk/runing than men due to hips are wider. It does affect how we walk, esp if have really 'big hips'. Just look at a scetch of skeletons, the female's legs form a triangular shape (hence the swaying hips) while men's are striaghter.
I'm pretty sure that women can fight just as well as men can, if they go through the same level of training.
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I have the feeling that they didn't need Law to swap their body back to normal. And Luffy probably know how but is just amusing himself.
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Forgive me if this has already been mentioned.
It just occurred to me that maybe the Gas Gas Fruit is not in CC's body, but in his cloak!
The way he is drawn, constantly robed in gas makes me think this. It would be interesting if he knew of a way to take direct control of the Gas Gas Fruit's powers for himself, even if he hasn't consumed the fruit. Perhaps he learned this from Vegapunk?
I think it would make him a particularly formidable enemy - in a fight against someone who doesn't know better, he could fake his death by falling into the water.
What if the cloak "consumes" him when he puts it on, and since his willpower is stronger than the cloak's - the cloak shouldn't be sentient, right? - he takes control of the powers.This might belong in the devil fruit discussion thread, but it would be interesting if "consuming" the fruit simply meant putting it inside you. An object could easily be made to consume a fruit by building pieces of the fruit (or the whole fruit) into it. I know that it is a little backwards to think of the fruit object then "consuming" a person, upon which the person gets the powers, but it might be worth thinking about.
Dunno, think it might be an interesting twist. Any thoughts?
Again, sorry if it has already been mentioned.
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I'm pretty sure that women can fight just as well as men can, if they go through the same level of training.
I re-read your comment several times tryign to see if I misunderstood you. Maybe its a misundertanding of each other, talking about two different scenarios, yours abotu if the two genders had same time training will be equal, I agree.
My scenario is not that, but simple bodyswap with different gender as Sanji has experienced in Nami's body.I see maybe I wasn't clear on what I ment when I said a man suddenly in a woman's body would have a liablity. I certainly didn't mean it to sound sexist, as I'm a woman. Perhaps I should have added that the same applies to a woman suddenly finding herslef in a man's body.
I was refering to if we really could consider real-world facts, then when he was switched into a woman's body he would not be accustomed to the difference of the center of balance as the men's sence of balance is located higher than women. A man's sense of balance is centered in the belly button area while a woman's is in her hips, therefore even if a man and a woman are same height, the man's sense of balance is higher than hers. The sense of balance is important to everything from walking, running and doing headstands.
That is what I ment. IF real world facts were a consideration (I alredy admitted they are not) then sudden change of the sense of balance would throw the person off and affect their ability to fight while they adjust being in a new body.
Does that clairify things?
Edit- tried to re-type to clarify comments, thoughts went off point at one point
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Yeah, sorry. I didn't realize you meant Sanji specifically. I agree, he wouldn't be able to fight as well, for sure.
However, he DOES seem to be coping VERY well with the bodyswap. It might be the newkama influence. -
snamjis gunna boob flash the yeti brothers than okama kenpo them
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Forgive me if this has already been mentioned.
It just occurred to me that maybe the Gas Gas Fruit is not in CC's body, but in his cloak!
The way he is drawn, constantly robed in gas makes me think this. It would be interesting if he knew of a way to take direct control of the Gas Gas Fruit's powers for himself, even if he hasn't consumed the fruit. Perhaps he learned this from Vegapunk?
I think it would make him a particularly formidable enemy - in a fight against someone who doesn't know better, he could fake his death by falling into the water.
What if the cloak "consumes" him when he puts it on, and since his willpower is stronger than the cloak's - the cloak shouldn't be sentient, right? - he takes control of the powers.This might belong in the devil fruit discussion thread, but it would be interesting if "consuming" the fruit simply meant putting it inside you. An object could easily be made to consume a fruit by building pieces of the fruit (or the whole fruit) into it. I know that it is a little backwards to think of the fruit object then "consuming" a person, upon which the person gets the powers, but it might be worth thinking about.
Dunno, think it might be an interesting twist. Any thoughts?
Again, sorry if it has already been mentioned.
No. A DF user/using object can't turn someone else into their fruits ability.
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This would make less sense, because the Clima-Tact relies on quick wittedness and knowledge of the weather.
Usopp built the damn thing, and he knows less about it than Nami, LOL.That's why Sanji is absolutely useless now…
Law is a smart guy after all... He put Sanji, strongest of the group, into the weakest body and Smoker in Tashigi's
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I still don't understand the fascination with Brownbeard that people developed…He was just some fodder that got beat up to me, I didn't think he was developed enough for me to care either way about him.
Also was Sanji the strongest of the swapped group? It's kinda hard for me to tell what the rankings would be, mostly because I considered Franky to be very strong.
At any rate, now that I've read some more comments, and thought it over. Sanji kinda has been fairly subpar in usefulness to be set up for the gag points it seems. I do agree that Sanji probably won't be able to fight in Nami's body since he should be a bit thrown off. I imagine it'd be like when I drunk too much and tried walking over odd terrain. It feels so odd, everything feels a little to the left of where I normally feel my center of balance is.
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I still don't understand the fascination with Brownbeard that people developed…He was just some fodder that got beat up to me, I didn't think he was developed enough for me to care either way about him.
Also was Sanji the strongest of the swapped group? It's kinda hard for me to tell what the rankings would be, mostly because I considered Franky to be very strong.
At any rate, now that I've read some more comments, and thought it over. Sanji kinda has been fairly subpar in usefulness to be set up for the gag points it seems. I do agree that Sanji probably won't be able to fight in Nami's body since he should be a bit thrown off. I imagine it'd be like when I drunk too much and tried walking over odd terrain. It feels so odd, everything feels a little to the left of where I normally feel my center of balance is.
Are you serious… But well... You probably are. So let it be... Me thinks Nami was the strongst after all followed by Usopp and Chopper
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Also was Sanji the strongest of the swapped group? It's kinda hard for me to tell what the rankings would be, mostly because I considered Franky to be very strong.
We know that he is the third-strongest of the Straw Hats, after Luffy and Zoro.
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We know that he is the third-strongest of the Straw Hats, after Luffy and Zoro.
It's not called a Monster Trio for nothing, and his matchups are a constant reminder.But Franky melted a door… And he never showed to be amazed or pissed himself seeing feats of actual monster trio members
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But Franky melted a door… And he never showed to be amazed or pissed himself seeing feats of actual monster trio members
Then he is probably the fourth-strongest? How should I know? xD
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Then he is probably the fourth-strongest? How should I know? xD
He is the 4th until Jinbe joins… But the rest of my post was sarcastic. He isn't at the level of the M3
Anyway back to topic
I hope next chapter we see either Samurai getting whole or Joker
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I still don't understand the fascination with Brownbeard that people developed…He was just some fodder that got beat up to me, I didn't think he was developed enough for me to care either way about him.
I don't think its a 'caring' sense of attachment to his character as much as it is pity for his plight. When I saw those few panels before he got shot, I could sense the dread of betrayal in Brownbeard's face. The guy may have been twisted and evil himself, but being stabbed in the back by someone you looked up to hurts all the same.
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I'm pretty sure that women can fight just as well as men can, if they go through the same level of training.
You think wrong, it's a matter of biology, not your best wishes.
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I hope we get an explanation as to what Law is doing on the island ASAP.
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Good reasoning guys, but you get my point a bit wrong (guess I wasn't clear enough):
If Sanji is pitted against Monet, in his current situation, he would violate his principles. He has no other choice but to.
Why?
- If he fights Monet with full power he violates his rules.
- If he doesn't fight Monet with full power, Nami's body gets obliterated - thus violating his rule.
Now we can spice this up a little. Lets say Monet "guards" the captured Franky (Nami) and Sanj is the first to her rescue?
What now? No matter what he does, he will violate his rule.
As for the body swap transferring strength, well maybe not, but I don't think skywalk requires strength. By that logic Sanji could have done it 2 years ago, since his leg strength was (without a doubt), more than twice as strong as Kalifa's.
So I agree there, it seems more like a technique.
As for Law swapping the members according to strength, I don't think that is the case . For one, Law doesn't know who is powerful and who isn't. He only ever met Luffy (Saobody doesn't really count, he didn't make contact with the other SH's)
Second, there is no monster trio anymore since the TS - every SH can pull his own weight, everyone is a monster in his own regard (re-read the fight against the NWP, Chopper even literally claims to be a "monster") . The times of Sanji/Zoro/Luffy doing everything by themselves are over - that was the point of the TS, and the final fight against the New Fishmen Pirates showed that.
The only thing that sets them apart now is what I call "warrior personality". Franky was always extremely strong, and so is Robin. So strong that there is constant arguing about them being at least on par with Zoro and Sanji. Heck, Robins DF is so powerful that it almost resembles a Shichibukai hax-level ability. Some even argue that she could be the perfect opponent for Law because of that.
Still, I think we will never see her or Franky on the front lines, simply because their personalities won't "allow it".
Doesn't mean they are weaker than the others tho.
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Good reasoning guys, but you get my point a bit wrong (guess I wasn't clear enough):
If Sanji is pitted against Monet, in his current situation, he would violate his principles. He has no other choice but to.
Why?
- If he fights Monet with full power he violates his rules.
- If he doesn't fight Monet with full power, Nami's body gets obliterated - thus violating his rule.
Now we can spice this up a little. Lets say Monet "guards" the captured Franky (Nami) and Sanj is the first to her rescue?
What now? No matter what he does, he will violate his rule.
As for the body swap transferring strength, well maybe not, but I don't think skywalk requires strength. By that logic Sanji could have done it 2 years ago, since his leg strength was (without a doubt), more than twice as strong as Kalifa's.
So I agree there, it seems more like a technique.
As for Law swapping the members according to strength, I don't think that is the case . For one, Law doesn't know who is powerful and who isn't. He only ever met Luffy (Saobody doesn't really count, he didn't make contact with the other SH's)
Second, there is no monster trio anymore since the TS - every SH can pull his own weight, everyone is a monster in his own regard (re-read the fight against the NWP, Chopper even literally claims to be a "monster") . The times of Sanji/Zoro/Luffy doing everything by themselves are over - that was the point of the TS, and the final fight against the New Fishmen Pirates showed that.
The only thing that sets them apart now is what I call "warrior personality". Franky was always extremely strong, and so is Robin. So strong that there is constant arguing about them being at least on par with Zoro and Sanji. Heck, Robins DF is so powerful that it almost resembles a Shichibukai hax-level ability. Some even argue that she could be the perfect opponent for Law because of that.
Still, I think we will never see her or Franky on the front lines, simply because their personalities won't "allow it".
Doesn't mean they are weaker than the others tho.
Law saw Zoro and Sanji fight in the slave trading arena before Rayleigh appeared… And someone as skilled as Law probably can see who is strong and who not.
Not talking about the Robin/Franky crap, which is bullshit... They aren't weak but not close to the M3 in overall strenght. The reactions of Franky even post TS speaks for themselves... And seriously the NFP are just awful to be taken seriously.... And even if. The losers Franky and Chopper have fought were that shitty that Zoro and Sanji kicked them casually away to clean the way for Luffy.
But it doesn't matter after all. Sanji fighting style is all about physical power... Even if he can use sky walk (which I doubt he can and the Khalifa argument was weak as well, cuz she is a superhuman with physical strengh 63 times better than a regular marine soldier as well)... What can he do... His kicks are weak shit, he has no super speed and nothing. Monet would have to be extremely weak to lose against an extremely useless Sanji fighting style
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Good reasoning guys, but you get my point a bit wrong (guess I wasn't clear enough):
If Sanji is pitted against Monet, in his current situation, he would violate his principles. He has no other choice but to.
Why?
- If he fights Monet with full power he violates his rules.
- If he doesn't fight Monet with full power, Nami's body gets obliterated - thus violating his rule.
Now we can spice this up a little. Lets say Monet "guards" the captured Franky (Nami) and Sanj is the first to her rescue?
What now? No matter what he does, he will violate his rule.
As for the body swap transferring strength, well maybe not, but I don't think skywalk requires strength. By that logic Sanji could have done it 2 years ago, since his leg strength was (without a doubt), more than twice as strong as Kalifa's.
So I agree there, it seems more like a technique.
As for Law swapping the members according to strength, I don't think that is the case . For one, Law doesn't know who is powerful and who isn't. He only ever met Luffy (Saobody doesn't really count, he didn't make contact with the other SH's)
Second, there is no monster trio anymore since the TS - every SH can pull his own weight, everyone is a monster in his own regard (re-read the fight against the NWP, Chopper even literally claims to be a "monster") . The times of Sanji/Zoro/Luffy doing everything by themselves are over - that was the point of the TS, and the final fight against the New Fishmen Pirates showed that.
The only thing that sets them apart now is what I call "warrior personality". Franky was always extremely strong, and so is Robin. So strong that there is constant arguing about them being at least on par with Zoro and Sanji. Heck, Robins DF is so powerful that it almost resembles a Shichibukai hax-level ability. Some even argue that she could be the perfect opponent for Law because of that.
Still, I think we will never see her or Franky on the front lines, simply because their personalities won't "allow it".
Doesn't mean they are weaker than the others tho.
I like your ideas but one thing I'm not 100% on is the Franky in front lines. He seems very confident of himself, especially when we first met him in Water 7. So I think at one stage he may be on the "front" lines especially with his improvements to his weapons in the TS.
Other then the Franky thing there is the obvious difference (to me) in strength between Luffy and the rest of the crew, some do say that zoro is his equal but I don't see it that way, and I see everyone else in the crew lower then zoro in strength, I will only give Sanji a step up to Zoro's strength if he develops or shows new techniques for attacks over distances (similar to cp9 kicking move, but I don't want the exact same).
But I do like the points about Sanji's rule he has been placed in the most awkward situation for his character when it comes to a fight scene. Chopper and Franky will be able to adapt but Sanji won't want to do anything in Nami's body. Oh and Robin's power is very hax and i agree that she is with her power one of strongest but her mentality will never let her be THE strongest in my opinion.
P.S. sorry for randomness/ unorganisation of post, my mind kept on changing its thoughts :p
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Pre-timeskip Robin couldn't even hold against the Zoro zombie.
I'm not saying she is weak but to me she is like the ~5th strongest on the crew. -
But it doesn't matter after all. Sanji fighting style is all about physical power… Even if he can use sky walk (which I doubt he can and the Khalifa argument was weak as well, cuz she is a superhuman with physical strengh 63 times better than a regular marine soldier as well)...
You misunderstood my argument. Technically, Sanji should have been able to do the Skywalk 2 years ago - but he wasn't. He had the leg strength, way more than necessary (thats why I compared him to Kalifa), but apparently technique is required, not excessive strength.
Also, Sanji's fighting style isn't all about physical power, I thought you would know better as the forums top Sanji supporter.
Diable Jambe is his defining skill now, and while Hell Memoires wasn't quite clear (we didn't see the attack connect), setting people on fire doesn't strike me as a physical ability.
Now lets say Hell Memoires is a form of haki, like many speculate, nothing would stop him from using it in Nami's body.
As for the power ranking crap, don't provoke "the door" Kishido. You know, the panel where Franky told Sanji to gtfo so someone can get the job done :D
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You misunderstood my argument. Technically, Sanji should have been able to do the Skywalk 2 years ago - but he couldn't. He had the leg strength, way more than necessary (thats why I compared him to Kalifa), but apparently technique is required, not excessive strength.
Also, Sanji's fighting style isn't all about physical power, I thought you would know better as the forums top Sanji supporter.
Diable Jambe is his defining skill now, and while Hell Memoires wasn't quite clear (we didn't see the attack connect), setting people on fire doesn't strike me as a physical ability.
Now lets say Hell Memoires is a form of haki, like many speculate, nothing would stop him from using it in Nami's body.
As for the power ranking crap, don't provoke "the door" Kishido. You know, the panel where Franky told Sanji to gtfo so someone can get the job done :D
Yeah Franky melt the door forgot about that. ROFL… That makes him = M3 in overall FIGHTING strenght… Hey even random fishmen people > Luffy cuz they were able to put him into ropes. You are one of the rare people thinking that both Robin/Franky are close to the M3 SUDDENLY after the TS... Of course they have some areas where they are exteremly hax and strong but they are limited as well... EL, Thriller Bark and SA showed it nicely and Oda hasn't stopped to show the monster trio with the biggest feats (where the other SHs were shocked to see) after the TS as well... But maybe you are right... and most of the SHs are near Jinbe's level as well.... it isn't the place to talk about it... so anyway back to Nanji
even if he has DJ in Nami's body... he lacks the strenght for his kicks, the speed for his movement and everything. Monet has to be really slow and weak to lose against Sanji in a limited body. Nami alone has a totally other fighting style to compensate her physical weakness.
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even if he has DJ in Nami's body… he lacks the strenght for his kicks, the speed for his movement and everything. Monet has to be really slow and weak to lose against Sanji in a limited body. Nami alone has a totally other fighting style to compensate her physical weakness.
Right, lets cut the power level crap, people might get annoyed by it (tho who can blame us, its the effect of badly needing a chapter).
Well, Sanji completely incinerated one of the biggest characters introduced so far. Wadatsumi wasn't in his giant form since Jinbe took care of that, but still.
It is very hard to believe that a strength based kick can cover such a large area. It seemed more like the fire from the Boa sisters (through haki).
That said, I see no problem with Sanji turning Monet into roasted chicken. Or, maybe only clipping her wings a bit since he wouldn't want to hurt her that bad, even if Nami's life is on the line.
Yep, I'm calling it now, she will be his opponent. Sounds like an interesting matchup to me and certainly something Oda would do. Inner conflict during battles is always welcome. It would also pretty much confirm Sanji as a Haki use.
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Blind hate, certainly not. Dissappointment? For sure.
I admit I'm sort of bitter about Sanji, especially after watching Enies Lobby a few weeks ago, but I think it is my right to criticize Oda's direction when it comes to Sanji.
For my part, I can't understand users who seem to watch everything with fanboy-coloured glasses, twisting and bending panels so long till their favorite character appears like they want them to be.
Sanji behaves like an a-hole since the TS, and in many situations out of character (in my opinion). Call it character development or what not, I don't like it - and I would love Sanji to return to his former self.It is not really hate, it is dissappointment. He is a character I cared for, and still do, even if I bitch every chapter.
Lets take Chopper for example, he could go die in a fire and I wouldn't care. If he is there, okay. If he is not, well…/next arc please. -
Right, lets cut the power level crap, people might get annoyed by it (tho who can blame us, its the effect of badly needing a chapter).
Well, Sanji completely incinerated one of the biggest characters introduced so far. Wadatsumi wasn't in his giant form since Jinbe took care of that, but still.
It is very hard to believe that a strength based kick can cover such a large area. It seemed more like the fire from the Boa sisters (through haki).
That said, I see no problem with Sanji turning Monet into roasted chicken. Or, maybe only clipping her wings a bit since he wouldn't want to hurt her that bad, even if Nami's life is on the line.
Yep, I'm calling it now, she will be his opponent. Sounds like an interesting matchup to me and certainly something Oda would do. It would also pretty much confirm Sanji as a Haki user.
Well I think otherwise so let it be… Monet would be look like absolute shit if he loses against Sanji in such a body.
While Nami can use Franky's physical strenght and gadgets and Chopper a physical body he will never ever have once again... Franky and even more Sanji are completely limited in my eyes