I'm with Maxterdexter on this one. Soma's dad showing up to see Azami and Erina on top of Soma and co fighting for seats in the Elite 10 on top of getting everyone back from being expelled. This all does scream "finale", or at least "where could the story go from here that could top this arc?" All you would need now is Erina to admit Soma's food is good by the end of this arc and that wraps up all the major beats of the story character and plot wise.
Food Wars - It's In the Trash
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We do know about the 4th seat. It is the creppy stuffed cat girl that specializes in sweets, right?
So? It is not like these two are better than Erina.
Then the 5th, sword guy. Plushie girl we saw her style and theme.
And Megumi's attraction is.. Was based on stronger bases than Erina has rigth now. Read the kinder cook class and the "forced clap" chapters, vs "oh soma so sily that thinks that stars are roe, I want your meat now."
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I'm not even a Soma x Erina fan but the first 3 chapters more or less "confirm" this ship. Even if the author is avoiding the question.
The author seem keem to put Megumi and Takumi together…
Nikumi was a joke from the very start. Same with that childhood friend. They were going to lose. Their crush aren't taken seriously at all.
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Agree with nikumi, but Megumi got her development while Erina was a complete bitch.
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Erina was supposed to start out as this huge bitch before the ice 'melt'.
Then Erina got her character development in this arc with her sob story involving the abusive dad. Her personality is caused by him yada yada. (I still don't care much about her sob story but my opinion doesn't matter)
She had that talk with soma and she has generally warm up to him.
She and him are friends now.
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Erina is a fucking shitty character to begin with. Never really understood why people even cared about this lazy-archetype of a character.
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Probably because you are the one who can't/don't want to understand her CD. In other words, is not us who care for the character the ones that have got a problem here.
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I'm not even a Soma x Erina fan but the first 3 chapters more or less "confirm" this ship. Even if the author is avoiding the question.
He can dodge the question as much as he wants, the ship was obvious since the very first chapter, what with Soma's dad "the secret to becoming a great chef is… meeting a woman that will want to give all the food you make to her..." Cue Erina introduction to us.
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This feels like we are heading to a conclusion of this manga.
Might not be, but it feels like it.
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This feels like we are heading to a conclusion of this manga.
Might not be, but it feels like it.
Unless sales tank, not a chance in hell.
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This feels like we are heading to a conclusion of this manga.
Might not be, but it feels like it.
They are still only first years. There's a lot more they could explore after getting Azami out of the way.
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How do you continue after the guy who wants to erase al cuisine that doesn't follow his vision, beat every 2th year except the top 3 by beating the one who crushed them, leave your supporting cast in the dust, make the teachers and faculty non-entities, and are poised to graduate the third years?
If the world doesn't open up after this arc, is the end game. If they open the world poorly, the series will suffer.
This rigth now if like luffy beat a shichibukai and akainu (after red dog beat the rest) and is about to face the yonkou and Blackbeard, with his life on the line, on shabody. Yes, there is the rest of the sea to go but.. You broke the world and flow of the plot to do this. It migth work, but there is nothing beyond this.
Then again, they could pull a JoJo and put soma and the rest as the elite 10 and a new generation of first years . shokugeki no gin.
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They are still only first years. There's a lot more they could explore after getting Azami out of the way.
That isn't really an excuse. Silver Spoon accelerated once it finished the fisrt year, and has gone through the rest of high school in one arc. I doubt we're getting a Harry Potter thing where we see new challenges, friends, and enemies in the coming years, when they've already exhausted the deep lore, shown us the best of the best, and Soma's proven himself to be better than the best of the best.
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Yeah, they really don't have much left, if anything, to explore after this. Unless Azami is really stupid he will put his best people into this challenge so once Soma wins he will pretty much be the number one person. Even with it being a team challenge him winning will have almost no challenges left as far as the school is concerned. Early on there could've been a possibility of other schools like My Hero Academia, but from what we got this is the only major school in the cooking world that really matters. The only thing I could see happening after this is a time skip where everyone graduates and they are trying to make headway into the cooking world. However, Soma just wants to become head of the diner, so there's not much to explore there.
It's sad because while I'm okay with the silly story, a lot of potential with cooking battles have been put down the drain. Instead of learning about different kinds of cooking and seeing it a bit more in depth with a variety of characters (which after the Stagier seemed to be what we were going to get), we have only had some cooking battles between lots of story parts. Hopefully with this battle in the distance we can get some time to focus on the food and cooking stuff, as well as other characters besides Soma, but with so many axed there won't be many to focus on now.
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There's very little left that I'd expect to happen in this series. We have Soma vs Elite 10 going now. Soma vs Azami will probably happen. Soma vs Somadad is likely to cap the series. Maybe we can get a battle royale or something to determine seat order once the main dudes take over, so that we can get some battles between our protags?
Anything after that is a real stretch.
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What if there is another super elite school in the West, like in America that has almost or as much influence as Tootsuki?
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It would be a really weird thing to bring in this late, when Soma's only about 3 promotions away from being the best chef in the world.
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Beaisea, haute cuisine in america? Psha.
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The director invented the turducken.
The teachers are the dudes from man vs food. (Are they American)
The point being if you are going to create the highest cooking school of the world, you put it in France, or leave it japancentric.
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Beaisea, haute cuisine in america? Psha.
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The director invented the turducken.
The teachers are the dudes from man vs food. (Are they American)
The point being if you are going to create the highest cooking school of the world, you put it in France, or leave it japancentric.
I wouldn't underestimate the height of American cuisine. Some of the best high-end restaurants I've ever eaten at would be considered contemporary American. I don't know how things stack up on a global scale, because I'm not a really food nerd, but if you're thinking of American cooking as just cheeseburgers and hotdogs, then you don't really know much about haute cuisine in this country.
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Everywhere where there can be crosspolinitation of ideas can produce great food, and I'm just a cheap foodie.
But this is the perception of a japanesse author we are talking about.
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Well we don't know their actual perception. Doesn't the author have a chef working with him? The scope of cooking knowledge on the team seems pretty diverse, with ideas from all across the map.
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Probably because you are the one who can't/don't want to understand her CD. In other words, is not us who care for the character the ones that have got a problem here.
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He can dodge the question as much as he wants, the ship was obvious since the very first chapter, what with Soma's dad "the secret to becoming a great chef is... meeting a woman that will want to give all the food you make to her..." Cue Erina introduction to us.
*Introduce princess-type character, and give her the most typical cocky attitude who has everything on a silver-platter
*Introduce the main character who is completely different, and thus grinds her gear
*At first she hates the main character, but slowly warms up to him
*Throw her sob story about how she was traumatised by it
*Main character says cool lines, and she melts
*Gives the "FRIENDSHIP THE BEST EVER" while shedding tears speech to the person that caused her traumaNekketsu: Brilliant CD!!!!
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Erina is such a nothing character these days that she's about as memorable as the background. She's always been a bland character, but I think she had a little bit of personality in her earlier interactions with Hisako. There was a sense that she kept herself chained by her own public image, and that Hisako was the only one that she was comfortable lowering her guard around. So yeah, she was still a tsundere, but at least there was something to be found beyond the front.
Ever since Azami, though, she's either been a damsel in distress, or a mentor to the group. Basically she became a plot point. You could say that she became more open to the group, and that that's some development, but we never see her showing more of that 'true self' that she showed earlier, so it's pretty inconsistent with her character, so it doesn't reflect on her at all in any consistent way. Her relationships with the characters change, but her own character doesn't. Nowadays, Erina doesn't get to do more than what the plot or her archetype requires of her. She's a flat character, who's defining gimmick is so tired that it can be specifically described by a single word: tsundere.
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*Introduce princess-type character, and give her the most typical cocky attitude who has everything on a silver-platter
*Introduce the main character who is completely different, and thus grinds her gear
*At first she hates the main character, but slowly warms up to him
*Throw her sob story about how she was traumatised by it
*Main character says cool lines, and she melts
*Gives the "FRIENDSHIP THE BEST EVER" while shedding tears speech to the person that caused her traumaNekketsu: Brilliant CD!!!!
Rest of the readers: Yea yea move on you dumb tsundere character.Rest of the readers? I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes her character. Don't go putting words on everyone's mouth.
Even the dumbest of the readers could guess there had to be something behind that abrassive attitude of hers. But apparently, you swing another way. Why bother giving you an elaborate reply when you are not goin to listen at all? I won't waste my time with someone as condescending as you.
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For Erina's attitude to be entirely a result of Azami's dickishness robs her of agency as a character. She was way more interesting before she had an evil dad, and I don't think she was all that interesting to start with.
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Rest of the readers? I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes her character. Don't go putting words on everyone's mouth.
Even the dumbest of the readers could guess there had to be something behind that abrassive attitude of hers. But apparently, you swing another way. I won't waste my time with someone as condescending as you.
I mean yea i knew that there would be a reason behind it, but i wasn't really expecting to see the most cheapest, and laziest "abusive family-member" plot-device behind her character. I guess i expected the writer to be not such a lazy hack that he has to resort to shitty plot device such as that.
Why bother giving you an elaborate reply when you are not goin to listen at all?
What can you really say? We aren't talking about some-deeply-developed character with ambiguous backstory , we are talking about a lazy tsudere character who follows the archetype word by word, along with having the laziest plot device invented for writers that can't be bother to properly flesh out their characters.
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I'd be in the boat of not caring about Erina. Tsunderes are majorly annoying to me though. Her character archetype was already going to make me think less of her. I sorta started to like her when she interacted with Hisako. And again when she was being nicer to Megumi. Of course her relationship with Alice. But that's more of Alice not willing to play along with other people's BS that I enjoyed.
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I actually enjoy Erina before Azami showed up. After he showed up, I feel meh toward her because Azami's awfulness rub on to her. She has shown CD but the author keep throwing her to the background after doing that.
Just because he threw in the sob story, it doesn't mean I will suddenly care for the character.
Honestly, I would have prefer her sob story to be about her status as a heiress to the Nakiri family. She has to bear such responsibility at a young age . It would have been nice for the author to explore that angle instead of cartoon evil dad.Erina is a POPULAR character. She was 2nd place even before all these CD. I guess Japan love their tsundere and the fact that she is hot. She's also really popular in reddit and other forums. Soma x Erina is also the most popular ship in reddit. People don't seem to like Megumi x Soma there…
I find it amusing that some Erina's fan are overly excited because Erina appear in a panel or their ship is sailing.lolArlong park forum is just an outlier, I guess.lol
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Glad to see that people have started to come around to my way of thinking on this Manga.
I agree with what people have said. This really does feel like the end. Like, what story-wise challenge is left for them after they beat Azami? Erina has already been won over to Soma's side, she just needs to admit his food is good (which will be the last chapter mark my words) and we've wrapped.
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I actually enjoy Erina before Azami showed up. After he showed up, I feel meh toward her because Azami's awfulness rub on to her. She has shown CD but the author keep throwing her to the background after doing that.
Just because he threw in the sob story, it doesn't mean I will suddenly care for the character.
Honestly, I would have prefer her sob story to be about her status as a heiress to the Nakiri family. She has to bear such responsibility at a young age . It would have been nice for the author to explore that angle instead of cartoon evil dad.Erina is a POPULAR character. She was 2nd place even before all these CD. I guess Japan love their tsundere and the fact that she is hot. She's also really popular in reddit and other forums. Soma x Erina is also the most popular ship in reddit. People don't seem to like Megumi x Soma there…
I find it amusing that some Erina's fan are overly excited because Erina appear in a panel or their ship is sailing.lolArlong park forum is just an outlier, I guess.lol
Arlong Park seem an outliner in general Tokyo Ghoul re is still loved everywhere else but not here.
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Shinomiya was the 1st seat yet he still struggle when he went to France. It took him 4/5 years before he open his restaurant.
Even in the spinoff & the novel, nobody in France recognised that he's a former 1 seat. He had to start from the bottom.Of course, there was 10 years ago and maybe Tootsuki has become world famous now. But I'm sure there are other cooking schools worldwide that can compete with them.
Azami only say he wanted to close all restaurant that he don't approve in Japan only. If Tootsuki has that much power, why not the whole world??
Also, Soma can travel around the world.
I guess is just me that don't want this series to end at one of the worst arc…
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We could potentially go through their entire School-career (3/4 years or so?). Worldwide competition, school rivalries, simply introduce new characters. It doesn't have to be the end, but it sure feels like it.
I mean, having the main characters in the Elite 10 means we could focus on the difficulties they face with their responsibilities and such. Defend their spots, having to guide the school, revolutions etc. Just spouting stuff out there, but there is plenty of potential to keep going.
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I think that anything after the content I mentioned before would be a stretch.
Anything involving their life as the Elite 10 would be hard to sell (short of battles with Azami and Jouichiro), because they're no longer underdogs in any capacity, then, so it becomes much harder to sell their struggles.
If they shifted focus to Soma building a restaurant, then the series would have to undergo a complete transformation, since it would have an entirely different premise and cast. I don't think we have any reason to believe that a series with shokugeki in the title would stop being about shokugeki.
Either way the author will have exhausted any setups and necessary character developments, and the amount of work he'd have to do to write and build up new ones would be the equivalent of starting a new series, anyways.
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While I perceive Erina as a lame character, her sexy design and Tsundere archetype appeal to my carnality. That said, this manga is about food, the sustenance of a baser desire, so its not surprising it abuses sex in the same way.
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Not to mention that the story about building a new restaurant and the struggles of "making it" in the real world is already being told via Shinomiya's sidestory.
Wagomu took the words out of my mouth. It's not like the story can't be taken in a new direction after this arc, but that's the equivalent of starting fresh with a new series anyways. It'll be different than what the premise was initially.
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A fresh set of first years and a change of name to "shokugeki no Steve" is what is needed.
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A fresh set of first years and a change of name to "shokugeki no Steve" is what is needed.
It should focus on a female lead. Shokugeki no Tanya.
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We might have to wait another 5 series for shokugeki no joilene, pasta ocean.
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Next chapter would be great if Azami posed as Souma's dad and replied: No.
Intead we will have: "Smooth character smoothly introduces you to his smoothie deal"
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Chapter is out.
Considering the nature of the challenge, azami could get from 8 to 10 chefs, maybe even include himself on it, and get erina to turn.
Soma currently has 4 chefs, but the setup is there, even if the expelled aren't allowed to participate, there are kouga, ishiki and former number 3 who migth help. I'd say that the first 2 are certain to help. So that's 6-7.
The challenge says that there migth be an equal number of participants, but the rules don't force it. But let's assume they have to be equals, who could fill the last few spots? Mimikasa? Hojo would be fillerish but adecuate, but the witch girl would be completely inadequate for this.
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Flashback time! Fun to see.
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Mangastream typo or error (or reading error)?
Doujima just said he and Saiba were 3rd years while Jouijirou is a first year, but the flashback has them as 2nd years, yet Nakamura is already at the dorm?
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Don't forget about middle school division. Azami was a 3rd year middle schooler while Joichirou & Gin are 2nd year high school.
Ms made a translation error regarding Gin win against Joichirou. Gin loses 101 win 20 times.
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Ms made a translation error regarding Gin win against Joichirou. Gin loses 101 win 20 times.
They literally have this in the chapter. He lost 101 times out of 121 matches.
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Grandpa Souma: And then my dad, your great-grandpa, showed up and seduced Azami into giving us a regiment match!
Grandkid Souma: GET TO THE PART WHERE THEY MADE HIM EAT SPIDERS, GRANDPA
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Jouichiro was kinda like the Rindo to Doujima's Eishi.
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Rindo is the wildcard in all of this, I wonder how long azami is going to keep her.
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Yeah, this manga is ending.
You don't start to reveal the biggest "mystery" of the series and not end it.
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So with about a week left, here's a reminder of the latest poll results:
! Nakiri Alice - 13
Tadokoro Megumi - 11
Yukihira Souma - 9
Kobayashi Rindou - 6
Isshiki Satoshi - 5
Takumi Aldini - 4
Kurokiba Ryou - 3
Nakiri Erina - 3
Hayama Akira - 2
Shinomiya Kojirou - 2
Saiba Jouichirou - 2
Mimasaka Subaru - 1
Arato Hisako - 1
Yoshino Yuuki - 1
Tsukasa Eishi - 1
Doujima Gin - 1
Nakiri Azami - 1
Soupe de Poisson - 1
! People who have voted:
! >! KageKageKing
phoenix_fire
Cyclone_Baroness
Bond en Avant
maxterdexter
BlackLeg
KzTxL7
fana
Coookie
bepo
HearofDarkness
Thatanas
Underworld1991
SunnyBlue
hosemisnuba
Gizmo
Spinx (with allowance for two more votes)
AfroSamurai
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Ura
Ruin
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le crystalIt's a little premature to be saying this but it seems that Alice is going to be our democratically elected Best Girl. (Sorry Megumi, maybe next time)
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I demand votation through Hunter x Hunter rules, the bottom half is scrapped, and everyone votes again, without being able to pick any of the scrapped parts!!!