Frankys hair used to be a barometer for his cola level. I miss that. And yeah, his new fighting style is boring as hell compared to the near perfection that was his Water 7 bouts (Franky vs Fukurou is one of the shining moments of Enies Lobby).
I'm still waiting for the day Franky fights a speedy fucker of an opponent, and pops out of his "armored mode" to reveal "Classic mode". Those stitches can't just be for show.
Luffy: Stayed the same for the most part, though 2003 onward Oda got more confident with his design and started to look a lot less like Shanks.
Zoro: Got way better and keeps on getting better.
Nami: 2003-2009 was her best design period, and she had way more expressions then too. 2010 onward she's kind of a generic super model.
Usopp: Vast improvement, especially on the perspective of his nose and hair. Looked best in Water 7/Enies Lobby to me.
Sanji: Sort of going back and forth these days, looked his best during Water 7.
Chopper: Looked pretty good in general before the timeskip, he was cute but not too cutesy.
Robin: Like others have said her design suffered the worst and looks like timeskip Nami with slightly smaller eyes. I think she looked really good on Sabondy.
Franky: I've gotten used to his timeskip design but I enjoy Water 7 Franky a lot more.
Brook: Has mostly stayed the same.
Oda's art style sure has changed a lot through the years,
from it's Kenshin mixed with Dragon Ball period:
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to a more Disney looking aesthetic with Baratie and Arlong
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the very Tex Avery looking Little Garden and Alabasta
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to starting to find it's more original style with Jaya and Skypiea, and getting better backgrounds
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it got more angular in Water 7 and Enies Lobby, starting to solidify Oda's style
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to the visually arresting Thriller Bark
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and so on….
Right now it looks okay but the panels are way to crowded with detail.
I don't think his women look bad either, background female characters all look different from each other. The important ones though all have a samey body type though.
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Frankys hair used to be a barometer for his cola level. I miss that. And yeah, his new fighting style is boring as hell compared to the near perfection that was his Water 7 bouts (Franky vs Fukurou is one of the shining moments of Enies Lobby).
I'm still waiting for the day Franky fights a speedy fucker of an opponent, and pops out of his "armored mode" to reveal "Classic mode". Those stitches can't just be for show.
Oh the scene from Enies Lobby opening where he's boxing with that guy. Miss that Franky
Franky evolved to an absolute joke… And current Robin looks like most females... I want her classic face back
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I don't understand why Oda changed him that much, even if his design was just awesome pre TS and he was utterly bad-ass with his whole fighting style... Now he is just freaky and most of his stuff is not dirty street fighting but being a damn mecha, which I personally don't like and can't understand it... Even more if he got all buff but most of the time is sitting in his damn Shogun... he could have his Shogun but still look more as pre TSHe wasn't that long in the crew after all so I hadn't the feeling that Oda should change his design that much after all... Even more if we compare the other SHs who more or less aren't changed that much, while being there for longer (- Brook)
Some pics to compare
Pre Skip
! http://www.opwiki.de/images/Frankyveränderung9.jpg
http://www.opwiki.de/images/Frankyveränderung77.jpg
http://www.opwiki.de/images/Frankyveränderung3.jpg
http://www.opwiki.de/images/Franky_Schultern.jpg
http://www.opwiki.de/images/Frankyveränderung8.jpgPost Skip
! http://www.opwiki.de/images/Franky_neu.png
http://www.opwiki.de/images/thumb/Franky_neu_körper.png/378px-Franky_neu_körper.png
http://www.opwiki.de/images/Franky_PH.png
http://www.opwiki.de/images/Franky_DressRosa.pngPS
I still like him as character even if it is just too much SUPPAAAA now… Similar to Sanji jokes
Man, I really miss that golden chain necklace. It combined with his pompadour and shades actually made Franky look like a thug. Nowadays, he only kept the shades and the pompadour only appears every now and then.
I have this nostalgia for the W7/EL arc. It maybe because Robin was kind of important there, and maybe because the anime had yet to sink to the depths it would plummet during the Thriller Bark arc, it may be sadness for the fact Brand New World got ignored before half the scenes animated for it actualy aired in favour of CRAZY CRAZY RAINBOW STAR, which is even worse then the ID opening in my opinion…...I dunno.
Definitely liked the crew designs as they were before, but the worst of all has to be Brook. The black suit, cane and top hat ontop of afro were so hilarious and classy, now he's dressed in that hideous carnival getup with that crown looking like it came from a Happy Meal.
So can't we all just agree that One Piece sucks now? :ninja:
2002-2006 (Skypiea and Water 7) was my favorite time period for Oda's art.
I honestly miss those days.
Marineford started the decline of Oda's art.
punk hazard and thriller bark were both epic infact they were both much better than what the dressrosa arc has shown so far
punk hazard and thriller bark were both epic infact they were both much better than what the dressrosa arc has shown so far
Now you're being silly.
punk hazard and thriller bark were both epic infact they were both much better than what the dressrosa arc has shown so far
I enjoyed PH and TB quite a bit but that last part of your comment is just wrong.
It's true that the art became more goofy over the years, but in my opinion it fits the mood of one piece so I don't have any problems with it. Badass panels look still badass, funny panels look still funny. As long as it isn't Togashi level, I'm ok with it
I enjoyed PH and TB quite a bit but that last part of your comment is just wrong.
the beginings of ph and tb are better than the begining of the dressrosa arc or at the very least on the same level i might have exaggerated a bit due to annoyance at the tb and ph haters but the beginings of all three arcs gave off the adventerous feeling that op is loved for though i do think that once the dressrosa arc ends and after luffy has pounded doflamingos face into the ground this arc will take its place in my top 5 arcs
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the beginings of ph and tb are better than
They have nearly identical plots, and started in nearly identical ways. And are still inferior to Dressrosa lol.
three arcs gave off the adventerous feeling that op is loved for though i do think that once the dressrosa arc ends and after luffy has pounded doflamingos face into the ground this arc will take its place in my top 5 arcs
Yes, once we get past this boring world building that was completely lacking in PH, to the part where people punch people, then it will be worth considering it's quality.
Please go read Bleach instead of One Piece.
They have nearly identical plots, and started in nearly identical ways. And are still inferior to Dressrosa lol.
hur dur dur skypia arc and fishman island arc are the same because in the skypia arc they went 10000meters up and in the fishman island arc they went 10000 meters down hur dur dur
@Monkey:
Yes, once we get past this boring world building that was completely lacking in PH, to the part where people punch people, then it will be worth considering it's quality.
the keyword there was"and" meaning after this tournament ends and we get proper world building(like chapter 705) upto and including the part were doflamingo gets his face bashed in will make this arc join my top 5
@Monkey:
Please go read Bleach instead of One Piece.
cam down douchebag
I didn't mean the art, I meant story-wise.
Why would you reply to a comment about the art with one about the stories?
And I have to disagree with that, PH was mostly people running from a gas that ended up not doing anything.
Why would you reply to a comment about the art with one about the stories?
And I have to disagree with that, PH was mostly people running from a gas that ended up not doing anything.
As opposed to what, running around Thiller Bark trying to get their shadows back? It was basically the same thing.
hur dur dur skypia arc and fishman island arc are the same because in the skypia arc they went 10000meters up and in the fishman island arc they went 10000 meters down hur dur dur
the keyword there was"and" meaning after this tournament ends and we get proper world building(like chapter 705) upto and including the part were doflamingo gets his face bashed in will make this arc join my top 5cam down douchebag
Reasons why war is your destiny (snippy little forum wars):
You spell like a wounded man after he has just taken the pain of a battle-worn rubber man.
You resorted to ad hominem after someone kindly recommended you a series that might suit your tastes better.
People don't seem to take lists seriously unless there's 3 or more items so… you are SILLY. SILLY, SILLY.
Dressrosa has been really great so far. It's already a hot mess of plots and it's going to be really interesting to see how they intertwine.
Guess I'm the only blind one here cuz I don't see any difference, except that their neck isn't so narrow with their head big and except for Coby, Helmeppo and Shanks.
i liked thriller bark a lot because it was just a really appealing setting for me
despite all the hokey round up the shadows stuff and the exhausting Oz battle it was pretty decent
but i'd make that pretty great just because Gecko Moria is fucking awesome and even when the story was mediocre I would still be glued to the screen while he was plopping around with a big toothy grin on his face
Neat to see, but would be better if the person who did this picked more alike pictures for each person.
Hard to compare faces when one is dirty, or angry, or laughing, or with hat, no hat, ect
Just take Ace's for example. I feel like you could have found a better comparison of pictures than the two shown. Hard to determine how much of a change because the two faces have such differences from one having a hat on and smiling/laughing, while the other is all beat up and no hat and crying.
As opposed to what, running around Thiller Bark trying to get their shadows back? It was basically the same thing.
I said it looked great, not that the story was good or better. And yeah, it was pretty much the same thing as PH.
Jesus, learn how to READ.
Reasons why war is your destiny (snippy little forum wars):
You spell like a wounded man after he has just taken the pain of a battle-worn rubber man.
well i cant argue with thatlolYou resorted to ad hominem after someone kindly recommended you a series that might suit your tastes better.
"kindly recommended" are you kidding me??!!? that "recomendation" reeked of condescensionPeople don't seem to take lists seriously unless there's 3 or more items so… you are SILLY. SILLY, SILLY.
okay…Dressrosa has been really great so far. It's already a hot mess of plots and it's going to be really interesting to see how they intertwine.
i didnt deny that infact i agree with it im not saying that the dressrosa arc is bad just that punk hazard and thriller bark were really good
sixteen characters
hur dur dur skypia arc and fishman island arc are the same because in the skypia arc they went 10000meters up and in the fishman island arc they went 10000 meters down hur dur dur
Oh so you think you know what comparisons I'm drawing. 
By all means please describe them.
the keyword there was"and" meaning after this tournament ends and we get proper world building(like chapter 705) upto and including the part were doflamingo gets his face bashed in will make this arc join my top 5
The world building absent arcs that beat the arc with world building? Still nonsense.
I have to agree with this, especially given the fact Robin and Hancock now look similar….
I've never understood this complaint since the only similarity I can ever find in them is that they both have long hair. Other than that I don't see how they look alike at all. The nose thing people keep mentioning seems more of a shading thing rather actual nose issue.
The nose thing people keep mentioning seems more of a shading thing rather actual nose issue.
Are you denying Robin had a unique nose because lol
Marineford started the decline of Oda's art.
Coincidentally, that was also when Oda started doing panels cramped with stuff, which he had difficult letting go as seen with his recent art.
Yeah, I think it's the other way around, my reading skills are just fine..
TB had a story?
The groups stumbles onto an island where an asshole attacks people, he attacks them and they beat him.
Brooke is pretty much the only plot.
I'm always confused about this, she's arguably a lot more open looking at all the gags with her imagination and morbitity we've had. Other than that, she always was sort of in the background. What exactly has changed about her besides her design?
Honestly not much. Reading some of these posts you'd think we were talking about a 4kids(yeah I went there sue me) level disaster or something. I'm not really even seeing what the problem with her design is given that she looks almost the same sans bangs to her pre-time skip look.
Honestly not much. Reading some of these posts you'd think we were talking about a 4kids(yeah I went there sue me) level disaster or something. I'm not really even seeing what the problem with her design is given that she looks almost the same sans bangs to her pre-time skip look.
She doesn't have the same flair to her outfits either. When I look at her now, I never see the things that made her scary as Ms. All-Sunday and interesting as a straw hat if that means anything.
Are you denying Robin had a unique nose because lol
She has a unique nose, just that others looking like it is the shading issue, not hers. Honestly a lot of the issues just come off as whiny since I'm not seeing the problem with ANY of them worth the amount of complaining I'm seeing.
Honestly not much. Reading some of these posts you'd think we were talking about a 4kids(yeah I went there sue me) level disaster or something. I'm not really even seeing what the problem with her design is given that she looks almost the same sans bangs to her pre-time skip look.
That's because no one's saying she turned bad with the timeskip alone, they're saying her design had been degrading into boring territory pretty much ever since she joined the crew in vol. 24. The timeskip was just one of the particular jumps into more boring along the way, it wiped pretty much the last vestiges of the old her away.
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She has a unique nose, just that others looking like it is the shading issue, not hers. Honestly a lot of the issues just come off as whiny since I'm not seeing the problem with ANY of them worth the amount of complaining I'm seeing.
You're right, people should only post positive things about everything. That way we'll have a really great and interesting message board.
She doesn't have the same flair to her outfits either. When I look at her now, I never see the things that made her scary as Ms. All-Sunday and interesting as a straw hat if that means anything.
Maybe it's because she's not intended to look scary anymore and she's still interesting as a crew member. One thing I've noticed that hasn't been mentioned is that a major point during the CP9 Saga was whether Robin was an enemy or an ally so it made sense to draw her in morally ambiguous often looking dark and mysterious. Post CP9 we know she's an ally so she's drawn in a softer way while still maintaining an slight air of mystery. The Hancock comparison I hate since like I said, I see little to no resemblance between them except for their hair being long.
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That's because no one's saying she turned bad with the timeskip alone, they're saying her design had been degrading into boring territory pretty much ever since she joined the crew in vol. 24. The timeskip was just one of the particular jumps into more boring along the way, it wiped pretty much the last vestiges of the old her away.
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You're right, people should only post positive things about everything. That way we'll have a really great and interesting message board.
Yeah because it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better to nitpick every minor detail like it ruins the series forever and people would have complained about designs looking the same just as much as the minor changes because of an Unpleasable Fanbase. As far as I'm concerned, the characters post time-skip look fine and good and in many cases either better or just as good as pre time-skip with some changes.
Yeah because it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better to nitpick every minor detail like it ruins the series forever and people would have complained about designs looking the same just as much as the minor changes because of an Unpleasable Fanbase. As far as I'm concerned, the characters post time-skip look fine and good and in many cases either better or just as good as pre time-skip with some changes.
Hi I'm the guy who cites TvTropes, please listen to me about how to critique a story. I know a lot about that from reading about how anime has evil blonde people.
Hi I'm the guy who cites TvTropes, please listen to me about how to critique a story. I know a lot about that from reading about how anime has evil blonde people.
Hey look I'm the guy who nitpicks at every tiny flaw and picks it apart because I'm always right who will ALWAYS find something to whine about.
Hey look I'm the guy who nitpicks at every tiny flaw and picks it apart because I'm always right who will ALWAYS find something to whine about.
I really like One Piece and get lots of things right. Things pretty much own for me lol.
But I'm afraid if I don't like this one thing that all of that will be for naught! Oh gosh golly!
Wow, perfect impressions…even the voices came to me through the internet^^
Which one do I shoot they're both Monkey King and doomrider7
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Which one do I shoot they're both Monkey King and doomrider7
Me.
! Like usual. :ninja:
Hi I'm the guy who cites TvTropes, please listen to me about how to critique a story. I know a lot about that from reading about how anime has evil blonde people.
So you're kind of a dick in every thread I see. Good to know.
