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    • Monkey King
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      lol at Mamma Mia being your go to Greek reference point

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        @Monkey:

        lol at Mamma Mia being your go to Greek reference point

        That or Hercules, though I've been told it's slightly dated

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          That or Hercules, though I've been told it's slightly dated

          honey you mean **Hunk**ules

          Handsome man save me from the monsters.

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            got as much greek in yo lives as a yogurt, damn

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              lol at Mamma Mia being your go to Greek reference point

              Seriously, anyone who's go to Greek reference point isn't 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' has a seriously skewed view of the world. Get some culture, Khaini!

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                Can my Greek reference point be Chrissie, then?

                Handsome man save me from the monsters.

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                  My Greek reference point is Historie. Macedonian. Whatever.

                  Ancient times were shitty for anyone not an established citizen of a great Empire, anywhere in the world. LOL.

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                    I have a hard time with dishes wrapped in lemon leaf or something…though lamb is delicious.

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                      My Greek reference point is all the ancient Greek philosophers.
                      And I am learning Greek too.

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                        @Khainiwest:

                        That or Hercules, though I've been told it's slightly dated

                        dated is like Greeks seal of authenticity.

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                        Can my Greek reference point be Chrissie, then?

                        but she's new age Greek, that doesn't count.

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                        My Greek reference point is all the ancient Greek philosophers.

                        does a philosophical view still have as much relevancy this far into the future? I mean at what point will it be invalid?

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                        Chrissie and you are both Asians! But it's a little confusing no lol?

                        i don't think I even know what Asian means anymore? Explain…

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                          does a philosophical view still have as much relevancy this far into the future? I mean at what point will it be invalid?

                          One of the greatest mathematician of the 20th century, Kurt Godel, was a Platonist. Werner Heisenberg supported this view too.
                          Heraclitus's view that All things flow is still valid even today. And probably forever.
                          Though Logic have developed much, Aristotle still remains the most influential logician ever.
                          And many more examples.

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                            This is a list of sovereign states and dependent territories in Asia. It includes both fully recognized states, states with limited recognition, and dependent territories of both Asian and non-Asian states.
                            The divisions between Asia and Europe occur at the Ural Mountains, Ural River and Caspian Sea in the east, the Caucasus Mountains and the Black Sea with its outlets, Bosporus and Dardanelles in the south. Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Russia and Turkey are considered part of both Europe and Asia. Armenia and Cyprus are entirely in Western Asia, but are sociopolitically European countries. The division between Asia and Africa is usually considered to be the Suez Canal, placing the Sinai peninsula in Asia, and therefore Egypt may be included as an Asian state.
                            The division between Asia and Australasia (Oceania) is disputed, and placed somewhere between Java and New Guinea. Indonesia spans both areas, but is considered to be Asian. East Timor is sometimes considered to be part of Australasia, but due to its being surrounded by Indonesia and its once being part of Indonesia, it is considered Asian. Papua New Guinea is occasionally considered Asian by virtue of neighbouring Indonesia, but this is rare, and it is generally accepted to be part of Australasia. The division between Asia and North America is considered to be the Bering strait. Some of the Aleutian Islands may be considered as Asian.

                            it still makes no sense to me.

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                              but she's new age Greek, that doesn't count.

                              What the hell is that supposed to mean? How I can't count as Greek? Since you know. I got the language (even the ancient one both in my dialect and in my knowledge - Can read and translate Ancient Greek), the culture, the History and the Traditions? 😆 You are insane Smudgie~

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                                @Chrissie:

                                Can read and translate Ancient Greek

                                Please translate this:

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                                  it still makes no sense to me.

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                                  What the hell is that supposed to mean? How I can't count as Greek? Since you know. I got the language (even the ancient one both in my dialect and in my knowledge - Can read and translate Ancient Greek), the culture, the History and the Traditions? 😆 You are insane Smudgie~

                                  i mean you don't give off the old Greek stereotype. No long white dress with fancy head attire, no lowly servants feeding you grapes, no offering zephs heart to hades…I think? Lol

                                  You are some hip newskooler completely unidentifiable in a crowd. Like you can't be used as a symbol/mascot for Greece however much you love it.

                                  But you aren't alone. Lots of countries and their repsective new generations have embraced new things each world culture is pumping out. In a hundred years or less we will all be pretty much one relatively similar race with only a handful of clues left to separate us. And this my dear is a byproduct of global socialising via the net.....yay.

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                                    Seriously, anyone who's go to Greek reference point isn't 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' has a seriously skewed view of the world. Get some culture, Khaini!

                                    I'm ashamed to say I've never ever seen that movie

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                                      I've never done a three way translation (Ancient Greek - Modern Greek -English) so I hope meaning doesn't change much or gets fucked up!

                                      From which happens the birth of creatures (όντα means every alive being, every existence, so… 'life' maybe would be a more... romantic to use. Not doing a poetic translation here tho!) to those the return happens with the corruption in necessity. Because they are punished and they pay equally for their 'injustice' and according to the law of time.

                                      Ahahahaha! Word to word translation seems pathetic! Lemme try to translate it roughly and according to the meaning:

                                      To the cause of birth of everything alive (beings), there (to the cause) they (the beings) are returned with (their) corruption on natural necessity. For they are punished and they mutually pay for their "injustice" according to the chronological order.

                                      Anaximandros (the source of these words) talked a lot about the Justice of Time. What was different in his kind of thinking from others, is that he didn't limit his theories on human limits. With "όντα" he was also referring to actions and all things. To the entire Universe basically… Pretty ahead of his time.

                                      I have a headache now. Gee thanks Sea. Couldn't you have picked someone who didn't cause headaches even to people who could understand his language perfectly? 😆

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                                        Please translate this:
                                        http://i.imgur.com/jtjSHCc.png

                                        I don't know what this means, but given the right information I could… solve it?

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                                          i mean you don't give off the old Greek stereotype. No long white dress with fancy head attire, no lowly servants feeding you grapes, no offering zephs heart to hades…I think? Lol

                                          You are some hip newskooler completely unidentifiable in a crowd. Like you can't be used as a symbol/mascot for Greece however much you love it.

                                          But you aren't alone. Lots of countries and their repsective new generations have embraced new things each world culture is pumping out. In a hundred years or less we will all be pretty much one relatively similar race with only a handful of clues left to separate us. And this my dear is a byproduct of global socialising via the net.....yay.

                                          Ahahaha! I would've been a servant if I lived in Ancient Greece anyways 😛 I would be doing the feeding.
                                          But you are ignoring that an ethnicity is way more than attire and language. It's attitude, movement, behavior, looks. You can't imagine how much attention I drew to myself in multicultural USA. No white dress or weird hairstyle needed. Just my good ol' self even in my 'hip newskooler' attire. People were curious. Tossed looks, smiles, chatted up to me, because it was pretty obvious I didn't come from their parts. Not that they would know I came from Cyprus. I doubt most of them even know my lil' country 😆 But they could still tell I was different from what they were used to. And Greek Cypriots are very different than mainland Greeks btw. Which is probably why they couldn't place me as Greek. With less than two million of us all around the world, we are a rarity lol

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                                            😆 You are insane Smudgie~

                                            ive got a jafar avatar….so maybe. shrugs

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                                              @Panda:

                                              Seriously, anyone who's go to Greek reference point isn't 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' has a seriously skewed view of the world. Get some culture, Khaini!

                                              The only thing i remember from that movie is the grandma who is turkophob.

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                                                Who wants to watch big fat greek wedding with me, itll be like an APmovie morning OO YE

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                                                  I'd want to watch an historical epic directed and written by kenjitir. Covering all the hardship suffered by and all the heroism done by the noble Turks

                                                  Starring Toby Maguire as the meek and helpless Ottoman empire who through his good heart finds a way to fight back. To fight for what is right

                                                  And Malcom Mcdowell as the drooling degenerate known as Greece. Who's fall into bastardhood at the coattails of satan we get to follow

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                                                    @Wagomu:

                                                    I don't know what this means, but given the right information I could… solve it?

                                                    How, it's just an expression?!! ;O …You could simplify it though, I see a lot of repeated factors!

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                                                      @wolfwoof:

                                                      I'd want to watch an historical epic directed and written by kenjitir. Covering all the hardship suffered by and all the heroism done by the noble Turks

                                                      Starring Toby Maguire as the meek and helpless Ottoman empire who through his good heart finds a way to fight back. To fight for what is right

                                                      And Malcom Mcdowell as the drooling degenerate known as Greece. Who's fall into bastardhood at the coattails of satan we get to follow

                                                      Don´t you think the thing with Kenji is enough now? I mean the guy talked shit but i think it has been mentioned plenty, no need to belittle him any further, especially since he is not even here anymore.

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                                                        What is a kenjitir?

                                                        Edit: oh dear lord!

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                                                          The only thing i remember from that movie is the grandma who is turkophob.

                                                          She was probably representing the Minor Asia destruction refugees from 1922! There were quite a lot of them migrating in the US after that happened actually, so that's probably where her 'turkophobia' came from. Most young people don't really care anymore. They have to be like… extremists (Greek versions of kenjitr are equally bad, trust me. Even Greek Cypriots get plenty of shit from them and abuse) to be like that. I studied with a lot of Turkish girls in Alexandroupoli and they mingled in just fine. I was good friends with one of them since she was in my year (I didn't bother with older or younger co-students other than helping them out with studies and notes) and still am. But yeah. There really isn't as much bad blood between Greeks and Turks as people think nowadays. At least not between the everyday, simple people. Because there are also plenty of flocks of sheep around who just swallow any political shit their parties throw at them.

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                                                            So apparently greeks believe that Windex cures everything. Did you try spraying your throat with windex Chrissie

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                                                              So apparently greeks believe that Windex cures everything. Did you try spraying your throat with windex Chrissie

                                                              Wth? I never heard of that one before! Ahahahaha!

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                                                                @Chrissie:

                                                                She was probably representing the Minor Asia destruction refugees from 1922! There were quite a lot of them migrating in the US after that happened actually, so that's probably where her 'turkophobia' came from. Most young people don't really care anymore. They have to be like… extremists (Greek versions of kenjitr are equally bad, trust me. Even Greek Cypriots get plenty of shit from them and abuse) to be like that. I studied with a lot of Turkish girls in Alexandroupoli and they mingled in just fine. I was good friends with one of them since she was in my year (I didn't bother with older or younger co-students other than helping them out with studies and notes) and still am. But yeah. There really isn't as much bad blood between Greeks and Turks as people think nowadays. At least not between the everyday, simple people. Because there are also plenty of flocks of sheep around who just swallow any political shit their parties throw at them.

                                                                Most people in Turkey do not even care about the relations with Greece anymore, except the occasional "Börek and Baklava is Turkish" claim

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                                                                  Wth? I never heard of that one before! Ahahahaha!

                                                                  yeah, big fat greek wedding xD, want a link?

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                                                                    yeah, big fat greek wedding xD, want a link?

                                                                    I did watch the film before, but it has been yeeeeeears! Nah~ I have a better idea of how and when to watch it :ninja:

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                                                                      Hey chrissie, I always wanted to know….

                                                                      ...have you got any older family members that pay homage or have belief, even if just for romantic prospects any of the old gods and whatnot?

                                                                      Sounds whack I know, but we've still got tons of pagans in England. Some are hardcore while others just enjoy it for what it is. Eg the holidays, cultural sides and ancient god/philosophical stuff.

                                                                      Side note: I almost got roped into it too by an ex. >.>

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                                                                        Hey chrissie, I always wanted to know….

                                                                        ...have you got any older family members that pay homage or have belief, even if just for romantic prospects any of the old gods and whatnot?

                                                                        Sounds whack I know, but we've still got tons of pagans in England. Some are hardcore while others just enjoy it for what it is. Eg the holidays, cultural sides and ancient god/philosophical prospects.

                                                                        Nah xD There ARE people that believe in the old gods, but I never met one in Cyprus. In Greece we do know a couple of those! O:

                                                                        Of course we have a ton of traditions from the ancient years. i.e. Tossing loukoumades (traditional donut-like ball sweets) and sausages on top of the roofs before Christmas to chase away the goblins (sorry Zeph! You missed that one for 4 days! xD;) and such, but we do them mostly for the kids and for… tradition! Not because we believe in it 😛

                                                                        Lol your ex is crazy!

                                                                        (not in the sense of her beliefs btw. Just because I know people might take it that way. In the sense she tried to force it on you)

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                                                                          Don´t you think the thing with Kenji is enough now? I mean the guy talked shit but i think it has been mentioned plenty, no need to belittle him any further, especially since he is not even here anymore.

                                                                          I still find it to be one of the funniest things to ever happen to this forum

                                                                          But i can try to tone it down if it's bothering you

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                                                                          Hey chrissie, I always wanted to know….

                                                                          ...have you got any older family members that pay homage or have belief, even if just for romantic prospects any of the old gods and whatnot?

                                                                          Sounds whack I know, but we've still got tons of pagans in England. Some are hardcore while others just enjoy it for what it is. Eg the holidays, cultural sides and ancient god/philosophical stuff.

                                                                          Side note: I almost got roped into it too by an ex. >.>

                                                                          Isn't that uncommon to see people walking around with Thor's hammer around their necks.

                                                                          And making mead aka the drink of the gods is a not to unusual hobby. Nor is making homebrewed booze in general really lol

                                                                          And there is an asatro congregation somewhere up north that does most of the rituals and all. Dunno how serious anybody is about it tho

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                                                                            The Greek Orthodox is supposed to be really hardass when it comes to polytheists.

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                                                                              The Greek Orthodox is supposed to be really hardass when it comes to polytheists.

                                                                              Only if you are a hardcore priest or a hardcore follower of the Bible. xD The rest of the people are like… eh! They aren't like that towards polytheists only actually. Towards us too.
                                                                              They throw a hissie fit whenever we do the Carnival Parade or the Wine Festival (yearly - God Dionysus oriented) or talk about the 'Evil Eye' (daily) or old stuff like that. PAGANS!

                                                                              Then there are priests who understand it's just for fun and for upholding tradition and don't mind. Like my mom's cousin!

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                                                                                i don't think I even know what Asian means anymore? Explain…

                                                                                Cyprus is technically in Asia.

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                                                                                Hey chrissie, I always wanted to know….

                                                                                ...have you got any older family members that pay homage or have belief, even if just for romantic prospects any of the old gods and whatnot?

                                                                                Sounds whack I know, but we've still got tons of pagans in England. Some are hardcore while others just enjoy it for what it is. Eg the holidays, cultural sides and ancient god/philosophical stuff.

                                                                                Side note: I almost got roped into it too by an ex. >.>

                                                                                lol those "pagans" are New Age hippie hipsters, not the same thing as what you mean
                                                                                we have those here too

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                                                                                  @Cyan:

                                                                                  The Greek Orthodox is supposed to be really hardass when it comes to polytheists.

                                                                                  The russian orthodoxy seems to be pretty gung-ho as well

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                                                                                    Don´t you think the thing with Kenji is enough now? I mean the guy talked shit but i think it has been mentioned plenty, no need to belittle him any further, especially since he is not even here anymore.

                                                                                    No can do. He posted LGBT hate messages (they were deleted) he deserves eternity of belittling.

                                                                                    Ron Paul has been haunted by his own for two decades, so two weeks ain't that bad. :ninja:

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                                                                                      And making mead aka the drink of the gods is a not to unusual hobby.

                                                                                      im actually a big fan of mead. Over crushed ice it's the perfect drink on a hot or humid day. As for brewing it…..hell no.

                                                                                      Me and my housemate were going to do this till we got to the end of the tutorial and found out you have to wait nine months for it to sit and do its thang. 9 months! I don't have the patients. The ingredients and whatnot are really easy to get hold of and follow though if you ever consider doing this.

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                                                                                        On-topic: Yeah… kenji was an unashamed hypernationalist/racist/misogynist/homophobe/history-revisionist. A real class act. Not gonna feel sorry about that.

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                                                                                        Me and my housemate were going to do this till we got to the end of the tutorial and found out you have to wait nine months for it to sit and do its thang. 9 months! I don't have the patients.

                                                                                        Completely off-topic: My fellow American-teaching-in-Japan neighbor/best bro made three giant jugs of plum wine (a much simpler process than mead, I think, but also requires the long wait time) four years ago, and a few months back we cracked one open for the first time. Crazy good. Really smooth, and dangerously not-tasting-of-alcohol, despite somehow being a high enough proof to get us drunk as skunks after a few glasses. Best part is that I didn't have to do any of the waiting.

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                                                                                          I still find it to be one of the funniest things to ever happen to this forum

                                                                                          But i can try to tone it down if it's bothering you

                                                                                          Seems like i am in a minority in this, so carry on

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                                                                                            @Smudger:

                                                                                            im actually a big fan of mead. Over crushed ice it's the perfect drink on a hot or humid day. As for brewing it…..hell no.

                                                                                            Me and my housemate were going to do this till we got to the end of the tutorial and found out you have to wait nine months for it to sit and do its thang. 9 months! I don't have the patients. The ingredients and whatnot are really easy to get hold of and follow though if you ever consider doing this.

                                                                                            Well you don't have to wait quite that long. I mean the longer you store it the better but it's drinkable after about three months

                                                                                            Still requires a bit of patience though.

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                                                                                            Completely off-topic: My fellow American-teaching-in-Japan neighbor/best bro made three giant jugs of plum wine (a much simpler process than mead, I think, but also requires the long wait time) four years ago, and a few months back we cracked one open for the first time. Crazy good. Really smooth, and dangerously not-tasting-of-alcohol, despite somehow being a high enough proof to get us drunk as skunks after a few glasses. Best part is that I didn't have to do any of the waiting.

                                                                                            How's the law about homebrewing over there. Is making three jugs of fruit wine as legal as can be?

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                                                                                            Seems like i am in a minority in this, so carry on

                                                                                            Nah i can't anymore. Good going hero you went and made me feel bad about it 😛

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                                                                                              How's the law about homebrewing over there. Is making three jugs of fruit wine as legal as can be?

                                                                                              No clue. But it doesn't seem like it would be illegal (not really "brewing." more like "combining some fruit, sugar, and alcohol"). The main ingredient is time.

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                                                                                                Was just curious. Somehow i imagine the Japanese people as being very regulated

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                                                                                                  Brewing without permit from the government is illegal in pretty much every modern nation out there, including Japan.
                                                                                                  This is because alcohol is subjected to a strict federal taxing regulations.

                                                                                                  As for the specifics of it, for Japan, mixing alcoholic drinks to other ingredients aren't considered illegal.
                                                                                                  Actually producing/brewing an alcoholic beverage is though. So cocktails are fine.

                                                                                                  Any alcoholic beverage brewed/produced over 1% of alcohol is illegal without permit. This is not unique to Japan.'

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                                                                                                  No clue. But it doesn't seem like it would be illegal (not really "brewing." more like "combining some fruit, sugar, and alcohol"). The main ingredient is time.

                                                                                                  Depends on the fruit. Any type of grapes is a no-no.
                                                                                                  I assume by plum wine, it was ume-shu (梅酒)? Plum Sake like those are excluded from being considered brew, and any household is allowed, as the ingredients are not considered illegal-without-permit.

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                                                                                                    In regards to alcohol production: most countries allow it, as long as you dont sell it due to the various restrictions, taxations and health and safety testing needed. My uncle for example has his of still, and produces a great bottle of American honey/whiskey for about $9.00, when in store it's anywhere between 45-55.

                                                                                                    If i had the spare time and money I'd invest in one myself. Regardless of how much my organs shudder at the prospects. Lol

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                                                                                                    Three months for mead?

                                                                                                    From what ive learnt it's a lot longer. Ideally when the gas stops venting to a certain degree that shows fermentation and every other process has reached it's peak. I guess you could cut the time, but how will that effect the alcohol content and taste? Still if you think it can be done I might have to look back into it. Three months is something i can work with.

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                                                                                                      I always wanted to try mead. How does it taste you guys?

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                                                                                                        Like a very sweet white wine. If it's just classic mead the only flavouring is honey

                                                                                                        I'd definitely recommend it

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