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      THE INHERITED WILL, "ONE PIECE"

      I've actually posted this theory 4 years ago here but that one lacks supporting facts. So I'm gonna post it again with supporting facts and a few ilustrations.

      This is gonna be a very long read but I guarantee It will be worth your while.

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      "THE VOID CENTURY"

      Let’s summarize things first :

      As we know, there was an age called “The Void Century” in OP’s world timeline. Except Roger’s pirate, not a single living soul on this planet have any idea what the really happened within that gap.

      However an Oharan archelogoist, Profesor Clover, had a slight hint about it. He told us that in that time there was once stood a prosperous and powerful ancient kingdom that ruled over the ocean. However, They had a certain enemy. This enemy felt threaten by the kingdoms existence and their certain ‘policy’. So then they invaded the kingdom and succeded. The kingdom was fallen to shred and somehow, the enemy managed to wipe out every single information about them from history.

      Coincidentally, The end of the kingdom’s reign also marked the end of The Void Century. At the same time, an organization called The World Government was built for the first time. Clover had a theory that the WG was none other than the enemy itself.

      Now let’s enter the theory :

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      "THE HIDDEN PATTERN"

      _“

      There are 3 things that cannot be stopped :

      Men’s Dream
      The Flow of Time
      Inherited Will

      As long as people continue to seek the true meaning of freedom, they will never ceased to be!

      ”

      – Gol D. Roger --_

      As these words first appeared in chapter 100, they seems pretty meaningless tome. I took them as nothing more than some random cool quotes.

      However, as sthe story goes deeper, I realized (and some of you might have figured it out as well) that One Piece story has been consistenly following those 3 things : Man’s Dream, The Flow of Time, Inherited Will.

      Let’s see :

      1. Hiluluk's Sakura

      Hiluluk had an impossible goal, and that was to create a panacea capable of curing all kind of diseases or ilness. however his experiments were keep failing and failing for 30 years. though eventually, Hiluluk's Sakura was bloomed, it is still not a miracle cure. Chopper who greatly respect to Dr. Hiluluk inherited these will by setting sail and joining Luffy.

      2. Golden Bell of Shandorian

      Two best friends parted away on the shores of Jaya. Their friendship didn’t end here, they promised to meet again someday. Calgara kept ringing the golden bell so his friend wouldn't get lost in his way there. Unfortunately, the fate decided to send Island of Jaya 10.000 m above the sky. Calgara died in the war, while Norland was executed in his hometown. Their promise were totally buried.

      400 years later, a boy named Luffy succesfully found and ring the long lost bell, thus fulfilling the forgotten promise.

      3. All Blue

      Zeff wanted to find the legendary all blue, but a year of sailing the grand line hasn’t bear him any fruit. However he was still pretty assured that the ocean exists somewhere in this world, so he inherited his dream to Sanji, hoping that Sanji will achieve his dream someday in the future.

      I only picked 3 examples, but there are actually more of them. So, anyone captured the big picture I’m getting at? or not? well, Here is what I meant :

      1. in the past, there’s someone who had a certain dream/desire/promise, but for a reason or two they didn’t manage to complete it (Man’s Dream)

      2. the dream was delayed for many years (The Flow of Time)

      3. Eventually, there will be someone in the future who will complete his/her dream (Inherited Will)

      That’s right, starting from the first chapter up till now, the storyline has ALWAYS been following this very pattern. I’m quite surprised myself, we’ve been through this pattern over and over again, though I’m sure fery few people are awared of it. I call it “the golden pattern” (because Gold Roger created it).

      This made me think, wouldn’t Roger has the pattern of his own as well? My curiosity was finally answered in chapter 576.

      !

      !

      So apperantly Roger had this will, a will that has been inherited for hundred years. And he waited for certain somoene to carry on this will… somehow it also has something to do with One Piece.

      So what’s is this all about? What was Roger’s will exactly?

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      "ROGER’S DREAM"

      The Golden Pattern (starting from here everything is 100% theory)

      MEN’S DREAM
      Roger’s will that Whitebeard was talking about, it actually wasn’t his original will. Roger inherited it as well from waaay back then, from 800 years ago to be precised. Yes, it was originally the will of The Ancient Kingdom (let’s call it AK from now on).

      The AK was a big kingdom, it ruled over almost the whole world (just like WG does now). They apparently also had a pretty-advanced civilization. One could say that there’s almost nothing they couldn’t achieve with everthing they got at the time.

      However they had an issue. As we know, the planet of OP contains of big four seas, east, west, north, and south, each were separated by the Red Line and the Grand Line. The AK saw Red Line and Grand Line as a big obstacle because they have been been preventing people from traveling from one sea to another, thus preventing the AK from reaching its full prosperity as well.

      And So they made this project, an insane one, but has to be done. The project was about eliminating the Red Line and Grand Line to fuse the 4 seas into one big ocean, the united ocean. The called it the project of “One Piece”. In order to do so, they started to build some weapons which will be strong enough to destroy the red line (later called Ancient Weapons)

      It turned out that not everybody was pleased by this project.. you know, politics. Some other kingdoms were totally against it, they smell a conspiracy was playing behind it. But the AK stood their ground no matter what. Guess what happened next? a huge war broke out. It’s the AK vs 20 kingdoms who were against the prject of "One Piece”.

      The 20 kingdoms came out as the victor and they declared themselves as The World Government. Meanwhile the AK was reduced to shred, along with all their historiy, and the “One Piece” project was never heard again since then.

      THE FLOW OF TIME
      Unexpectedly, The AK has anticipated their downfall. Before the war begun they had carved historical notes on these certain metals which as hard as diamond(later called the poneglyphs) and hid them throughout the world, along with the weapons they’ve built. The AK really wanted to make sure that their desire wouldn’t die in case of anything bad happened to them.

      the WG was mad with this fact and completetely prohibit any form of poneglyph dechipering.

      but it's too late, the will has been passing through ages since then… silently waiting for someone to recieve the massage.

      THE INHERITED WILL
      800 years has passed, a pirate named Roger sucessfully reach Raftel and discovered the true history. He knows exactly what to do, but unfortunately his body didn’t allow him to… he had this incurable disease, remember? whereas the project needs a lot of power and time to complete, 2 things that Roger didn’t have that time.

      Therefore, he decided to create The Golden Age of Piracy instead, hoping that there will appear someone who is strong and righteous enough to complete the massage in his place.

      Who will be that ‘someone’? I think we all know the answer. 😄

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      "THE PROJECT OF ONE PIECE"

      Now… how exactly does this project work? Will fusing 4 seas into a united ocean make Luffy’s journey worthy?

      Let me explain it… It’s gonna be a bit technical so I’ll include some ilustrations.

      So here is roughly how the globe looks like.

      !
      Chapter 51, page 4

      !
      Chapter 71, page 4

      And this is the flat(word?) version :

      !

      The idea of “One Piece” is to create a united ocean, a perfect ocean to sail. Therefore we have two jobs : fusing all the seas into one and eliminating Grand Line abnormality. GL’s abnormality? Is that even possible?

      Apparently it is possible for the AK scientists. The trick is destroy a spot where every sea on the planet (north, west, east, south, grand line, new world, and calm belt) meet in one place. There is a spot like that? Actually, there are two, and both need to be destroyed. The two spots are reverse mountain and mariejoa/fishman island.

      a simple ilustration :

      !
      ! Reverse Mountain

      And here is the meeting spot, the circled area one :

      !

      Think for a moment there… It made sense right? Mariejoa/fishman island also has a similar geography (minus the reverse canals).

      The meeting spot are set. Next, the ancient weapons will do their job : annihilating those spots.

      Ok let’s do it to reverse mountain first… FIRE IN THE HOLE!!

      !

      Even with the mighty power of the ancient weapons, the annihilation must be calculated and done correctly to get the wanted effect. If succeed, this what will happen next :

      !

      Losing a huge mass of land, The sea became even more unstable than before, a big whirlpool will appeared on the center of destruction spot, storms and tidal wave occuring everywhere. However they’re only temporary, after a couple days the raging storm shall be subsided.

      And then, the magic began…

      disastrous random-weather on grand line and NW suddenly doesn’t occur anymore
      the magnetic field which make a normal compass useless are completely gone
      Even the wind starting to blow on Calm Belt

      How about sea monsters? Well, this is the time where Poseidon come to play. The Poseidon has fully taken control of the sea king and make them some kind of ‘police’ of the ocean to prevent other sea monsters from going wild. (yes I do think this is very possible)

      The ideal united ocean is finally created . The project of One Piece officialy succeeded!!

      But is that it???

      It’s not. There’s actually one more after-effect, and it’s the most important one.

      The big whirlpool that appeared after the destruction of reverse mountain, It happened because the water mass of the four seas simultaneously flowed into the center of destruction – the place where reverse mountain was stood once. Logically, that means every kind of living things which originally lives in four seas were brought there as well. You literally could find every fish species from all over the world here.

      Wait, was that sounds familiar? Exactly, the destruction spot has became that legendary mythical sea…

      !
      ! The Legendary ALL BLUE

      The United Ocean and the legendary All Blue

      At least 6 of Strawhats’s dream will be accomplished because of these achievementt.

      ! Luffy -> he wanted to be the pirate king, “the man who has the most freedom in the ocean”. now that the ocean has been united, Luffy has literally achieved this feat.
      ! Sanji -> it's obvious, he finally found the All Blue
      ! Nami -> now that the entire ocean is free to sail, drawing world map is not so impossible anymore
      ! Franky -> same reason with Nami, Sunny now can travel all over the world
      ! Robin -> all of this happened because she found out the true history
      ! Brook -> Ever wonder how Brook will return to the Twin Cape to meet Laboon? It seems impossible because the reverse mountain was in the way. But now, it’s GONE! They’ll meet again with ease, Bink’s Sake will be played along their emotional reunion. It will be a perfect moment.
      ! How do you think??

      Now how about the spot at mariejo/fishman island ??

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      “THE PROMISED DAY”

      !

      !

      This mermaid… she didn’t lie at all. nor she’s wrong. She was actually foreseeing the event we’ve been talking about : the project of One Piece. And It is indeed Luffy who will trigger the event.

      The ancestor of FI were actually well awared of this upcoming event.

      How so? Here’s another theory : Joy Boy, he was actually the king of the AK.

      Ok I know that sounds so random. There’s a theory for that but let’s save it for later…

      Like a said, destroying both reverse mountain and fishman island is a must to complet the project. Therefore, King Joy Boy made a proposal of destroying FI to the former mermaid princess, Poseidon. She agreed but as an exchange she asked Joy Boy to move her people to a better place on the surface. Joy Boy gave a nod and started building Noah Arc afterwards.

      Joy Boy managed to finish Noah but short after his kingdom lost a great battle against the 20 kingdoms. The promised cannot be fullfilled and he apoligized to Poseidon through poneglyph. However he still promised her “that day” would eventually come in the future, the day when fishmen and mermen live under the sun.

      (You see that Oda used the another “golden pattern” again here)

      –----------------

      Conclusion : “The promised day” and madam shirley’s prediction, they are actually the same thing.

      The scenario is pretty simple : at “the promised day” Luffy will trigger the attack on the destruction spot, but before that, Shirahoshi will command the seaking to move all of the FI’s citizen to a safer place (by using Noah).

      Once destroyed, the same magic which happened to reverse mountain spot will also be happened here. The All Blue will appear, replacing the destruction spot. mermen and fishmen will move here later and make a brand new civilization around the Sunny Tree of Eve (if Sunny Tree has the same reputation with Adam tree, it will completely survive the destruction. There are ilustrations for this but I lost it somewhere ).

      Meanwhile, this also marked the end of WG’s reign because Mariejoa --the prime symbol of WG-- was buried alongside FI in the process. Luffy finally won his war against the WG.

      rough chronolgy :

      Mariejoa and FI

      !
      ! If you look from above, both mariejoa and fishman island are located on the same place. Destruction are inevitable for both.

      initial state of FI

      !
      ! A = Sunny Tree of Eve
      B = the Red Line
      C = underwater part of Red Line
      D = Fishman Island
      E = underwater cave
      F = holy land Mariejoa

      Pluton doing its job

      !

      the after effects

      !
      ! A = Sunny Tree – it completely survived the destruction
      B = the place where merfolks will build their new civilizations
      C = All Blue
      D = Red Line's debris

      aerial view

      !


      Related theories

      Why no one could Reach Raftel?

      ! Let's get back to chapter 301, read carefully…
      ! http://i9.mangapanda.com/one-piece/301/one-piece-60961.jpg
      ! http://i25.mangapanda.com/one-piece/301/one-piece-60962.jpg
      ! http://i33.mangapanda.com/one-piece/301/one-piece-60963.jpg
      ! http://i1.mangapanda.com/one-piece/301/one-piece-60964.jpgnow look at the last page, "this also means I must follow the guidance the tablets I have read so far… to the ending point of Grand Line, Raftel!!"
      ! I think Robin implied that the poneglyphs held 'the key' to Raftel. In other words, Raftel couldn't be reached by any ordinary mean. The only way to get there lies on poneglyph, and you must read all of them (it would be some sort of jigsaw puzzle if you ask me... you have to collect them all and rearrange it to get the big picture.) That's why not a single soul could reach it since Roger, because none of them are able to dechiper the texts.
      ! so what's the deal with Raftel? What lies in there must be the final answer of the true history, as well as the trigger of "the big war" that epicbeard was talking about. well, at least that's how I see it.

      Joy Boy = the king of Ancient Kingdom??

      ! some theories around were based on real life references, this will be one of them. It’s not mine though, it’s my friend’s at local one piece forum. His username is BonneySHP11st, so all the credits goes to him.
      ! So,
      ! In Indonesian’s history there was once stood a hindu kingdom named The Kingdom of Kediri. The kingdom was pretty known here, particularly because we study about it in high school.
      ! Apparently, the kingdom has some paralel similarites with the ancient kingdom in One Piece. Here they are :
      ! 1. The kingdom ruled over the eastern javanese from AD 1042 to 1222. It reached its golden age from AD1130-1160 under the reign of its most known king. <- AD 1130 - 1160. that’s approximately 900-800 years ago.
      ! 2.The kingdom was remarkable for its well-known prophecy. It basically predicted the downfall of the kingdom, as well as the downfall of Indonesian’s archipelago to white and yellow race foreigners, then be glorious once again. The prophecy turned out to be true. <- not sure about this, but I think you can relate it to “the promised day” and shyarly’s prediction.
      ! 3.They left out 3 historical epigraphs, mainly tell about a big war beetween Pandawa and Kurawa clans <- you can relate it to poneglyphs and the war between the AK and 20 kingdoms
      ! Despite the similaraities, they could be mere coincidence. I mean, it’s not like Kediri was the only kingdom in the world which ruled around that time, nor it’s the only kingdom that left out epigraphs and prophecy. The similarities were not really that convincing either…
      ! However, the name of its most known king, it’s the one that strike me the most. His name was King Joyoboyo.
      ! when you first heard about “Joy Boy” did it ring any bell for you? I bet it didn’t. I mean, did the name sound so random, lol.(There was a thought about Joy Boy being an okama name but that couldn’t be serious.)
      ! Reference wise, I didn’t recall anyone managed to find a real person named Joy Boy or anything close to that who might be related… well, until my friend posted this theory.
      ! Kediri and king Joyoboyo have been quite known here, though I believe very few foreigners know about it. However Oda is genius and unexpectable when it comes to using reference, so this might be plausible.
      ! P.S : you can find informations about Joyoboyo on wiki
      ! all credits to BonneySHP11st kaskus.

      Welll that’s it folks… Sorry for bad english. The theory was hard enough to explain in Indonesian(my mother language), so I didn’t expect to do it better in english.^^ But I really hope you guys understand what I’m trying to explain.

      I am awared that this theory has so many weaknesses but I believe it also makes perfect sense to some point so… let’s discuss!

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        my friend, i want to give you a medal, a hug, a brofist and a cold beer. seriously.

        well done!!! EVERYTHING FELL IN PLACE!!! and to add that the center of the reverse mountain looks like a big X (pirates treasure map's goal location) and the joining of four seas, destruction of fishman island and destruction of marijoeis (reason why theyre so afraid of the ancient weapons) will happen in one swoop.

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        EDIT: i envy your ability to organize things and explain properly.

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        so final battle will be in marijoies and against the gorousei (who will try to defend the set-up of ancient weapon there) and upon defeat of five elders stars, luffy will ignite the weapon that will destroy the red line. you are a genius dude.

        three questions:

        1. how would luffy hearing voice of all things comes into play? (roger said only the guy who got the ability to hear all things will find one piece)

        2. where's raftel in all of these?

        3. oda mentioned at the start of the series to "watch the phases of the moon throughout the series"...how would that pan out in the theory?

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          @beck26:

          so final battle will be in marijoies and against the gorousei (who will try to defend the set-up of ancient weapon there) and upon defeat of five elders stars, luffy will ignite the weapon that will destroy the red line. you are a genius dude.three questions:1. how would luffy hearing voice of all things comes into play? (roger said only the guy who got the ability to hear all things will find one piece)2. where's raftel in all of these?3. oda mentioned at the start of the series to "watch the phases of the moon throughout the series"…how would that pan out in the theory?

          1. I believe it will help Luffy discover the true history, though I'm not sure how it will work… because, you know, we have Robin already.

          2. Let's get back to chapter 301, read carefully...

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          ! now look at the last page, "this also means I must follow the guidance the tablets I have read so far… to the ending point of Grand Line, Raftel!!" I think Robin implied that the poneglyphs held 'the key' to Raftel. In other words, Raftel couldn't be reached by any ordinary mean. The only way to get there lies on poneglyph, and you must read all of them (it would be some sort of jigsaw puzzle if you ask me… you have to collect them all and rearrange it to get the big picture.) That's why not a single soul could reach it since Roger, because none of them are able to dechiper the texts.

          so what's the deal with Raftel? What lies in there must be the final answer of the true history, as well as the trigger of "the big war" that epicbeard was talking about. well, at least that's how I see it.

          3. He said that?? well, the moon will surely play an important part on this one. Enel's spacey advanture, that was no trivial stuff, watch out for that one… I have a theory for this but it needs some work (I might post it later)

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            mantaaappp bang.. supeeeeeerrrr (y)

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              Solid theory, definitely falls in place with what we have so far, purpose of the ancient weapons is a nice fit too. thumbs up.

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                Awesome theory could totally see this happening. How do you think the AK lost the war? I'm thinking they was a traitor in the AK and Blackbeard has inherit that will.

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                  I love this theory. Thanks for sharing. 😁

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                    I'm pretty impressed by all this extensive research you've done. It does fulfill a lot of the character's goal, predictions, clues, and hints that have been set in place throughout the story. I'd be even more surprised if this NOT come to pass, because it would mean Oda is a true master storyteller and no one can figure out his work until the end.

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                      This is such a good theory that I wish I didn't read it, because it seems highly plausible. Excellent work.

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                        If Oda wasn't so unpredictable, I would totally back this theory. I do think it is very, very plausible and you have a good chance of getting (at least) part of it correct! But Oda is so off the wall when it comes to his writing that I can never be too sure what he is planning next.

                        Still, great theory!

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                          anyway, please rate this thread so more people read it. thanks^^

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                            wow. im really convinced of what you brought up today. great job man!!!

                            and one of the reason i do like your theory is because it perfectly fit my theory as well, not about one piece or void history or raftel, but with the last battle of the strawhats.

                            i always believed that strawhats will get 2 more monster level fighters to go along luffy, sanji and zoro.==== and because this 5 top fighters of strawhats will clash for the final battle against gorousei. (as they defend marijoies…plus we have the same idea that it will all end to where they started: the reverse mountain)

                            i also got this feeling that though luffy fights akainu in marijoies as well. the one who would finish the battle with akainu is either garp or dragon.

                            anyways, really awesome theory. i LOVE IT!!!!

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                            EDIT: after reading your theory, i wanted one piece to fast forward at the last parts already LOL. you got me hyped up too much d^_^b

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                              I really love this magnificent theory you have, makes me feel so much anticipation, although i still can't vote, your theory is the best, its not about the enemies luffy will about to face but about the will he inherited that he must defeat everyone who will stand in their way.

                              EDIT: And it makes sense, I think after the 20 kingdoms have successfully destroyed the AK, they built the Holy Land Marejois exactly on TOP of the Red line, where in The highest Ranking WG Officials stand to defend against anyone who will fullfill where the AK failed to do. Just a thought to add on your marvelous theory.

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                                ok i kinda got it…robin finds the last poneglyph, which gives direction how to get to raftel....still they get lost and luffy will use his ability to hear "all things" to find the secret passage.

                                then on raftel, is the final ancient weapon, which will be used in reverse mountain to obtain "one piece"....reason why reaching raftel will cause an unimaginable war, because WG will try to prevent the destruction of marijoies...this is also the time dragon's forces will move to ally with the strawhats and ex-marines.

                                and joyboy fits perfectly as the king of AK since he was prolly the one who sent all those ponegylphs on different places...plus he made a specially made one to ask forgiveness to poseidon for not being able to use noah to evacuate the fishmen race.

                                and maybe the involvement of moon in all this is (im guessing) that will activate uranus.

                                pluton blasts the red line away.
                                poseidon helps the evacuation of fishmen, controls the sea monsters and stops the whirlpool cause by red line bombing.

                                uranus will.....ummm...anyways....it could be anyone's guess.

                                HOLY MO**ERFCKNG SH*T!!!!!!!!!!! this is epic as hell.

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                                  Man you gave some thought into this! :blink: I don't think this is exactly how One Piece will end tough but it's still a very good guess. :happy:

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                                    Destroying RedLine just for the sake of sailing seems to me a bit "harsh", were these guys some kind of terrorists? Also we don't know if "One Piece" directly comes from Roger's mouth or from citizens. So far this theory is good but I don't buy the " project of One Piece".

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                                      @Kirk:

                                      Destroying RedLine just for the sake of sailing seems to me a bit "harsh", were these guys some kind of terrorists? Also we don't know if "One Piece" directly comes from Roger's mouth or from citizens. So far this theory is good but I don't buy the " project of One Piece".

                                      Well, They ARE pirates in anyway, Luffy stated there's nothing more valuable than the freedom to sail the seas, and maybe the redline is a hindrance to it as well, i think, if this theory hits the spot.

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                                        Destroying an huge mass of land just for the sake of sailing is some kind of terrorism and I dont think Oda/Luffy would take that path. There are probably people living there, and I'm not talking about Mariejoa.

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                                          uranus will…..ummm...anyways....it could be anyone's guess.

                                          a thought,

                                          Uranus was named after the god of sky (the father of sky to be precised), so it might have the power to take complete control of weather. by that means, Uranus will help neutralizing the chaotic storm caused by the red line bombing, as well as eliminating grand line's abnormality to the core.

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                                          Destroying RedLine just for the sake of sailing seems to me a bit "harsh", were these guys some kind of terrorists?

                                          they of course planned things carefully, that's why Poseidon will be there for salvation purpose. you're right though about One Piece origin, we don't know whether Roger said it first or there's someone before him.

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                                            I think that Uranus is a teleporter, a mass teleporter if you will.

                                            Evacuate everyone first to one or several of the moons before smashing the Red Line to pieces because it will cause crazy weather. Either that or it really controls the weather and Dragon has it.

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                                              Awesome theory, and I have one more argument to support it.
                                              What is the true prime goal for most of the pirates? It's "freedom". Freedom is very important in One Piece, it is very important for Luffy. Red Line and Grand Line are blocking this freedom, normal people can't really travel the world because of those two thing and they have to stay on their "blues". If RL and GL are gonna be detroyed, then everyone will achieve absolute freedome to go wherever they want, because there won't be any calm belt or red line blocking them.

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                                                Solid theory! I particularly like how it covers a) How Laboon will reunite with Brook, b) The appearance of All Blue and c) The destruction of Fishman Island at Luffy's hands. It's the best single explanation for all 3 happenings, but knowing Oda these events may not be connected at all.

                                                Well done Ashura!!

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                                                  Wow, great theory! Good job and don't worry about your English, I understood everything.

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                                                    destroying red line is not to act like a terrorist…its maybe to unite all seas (and world) and it will erase all the advantages of WG. (calm belt, reverse mountain)

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                                                      Congrats! Some interesting points but I still don't clearly see how DF fit in one piece world history and void century. I hope you have also devised a theory about that.

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                                                        you just blew my mind

                                                        great read thx for putting time in 😄

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                                                          Gonna read it and then gonna regret reading it cause it's probably pretty right 😞

                                                          Spoiler:

                                                          Tony Tony Chopper: [after seeing Ussopp's 5 ton hammer break] You mean it was a fake?

                                                          Usopp: Of course! I can't lift five tons! I quit after five pounds!

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                                                            This is without doubts the most refined theory we ever had, good job getting all pieces to make all this.

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                                                              This is going to get merged soon, a lot of these are old theories.

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                                                                Great theory, really well explained and illustrated. The Fishman's Island being destroyed and the All Blue bit cinched it for me as they really seem to fit your idea to a tee. Like I can't even think of any other way Luffy could destroy Fishman's Island now aside from some other stupidly destructive way of taking out Mariejoa and its inhabitants.

                                                                Not entirely convinced that any one theory can predict Oda's actions but this is probably the most well thought out idea for the end of One Piece.

                                                                The world forgetting, by the world forgot

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                                                                  Awesome theory, and I have one more argument to support it.
                                                                  What is the true prime goal for most of the pirates? It's "freedom". Freedom is very important in One Piece, it is very important for Luffy. Red Line and Grand Line are blocking this freedom, normal people can't really travel the world because of those two thing and they have to stay on their "blues". If RL and GL are gonna be detroyed, then everyone will achieve absolute freedome to go wherever they want, because there won't be any calm belt or red line blocking them.

                                                                  One issue is assuming the Ancient Kingdom were pirates, or had the same goals as pirates.

                                                                  Why would they want to unite the seas? Are you saying the fantastic and legendary One Piece is nothing more than a construction project? Kinda cheesy… Not horrible! Just...cheesy.

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                                                                    This is one of the best theories I've read. Awesome work.

                                                                    It's only a month into the new year and we already have the best thread.
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                                                                    One issue is assuming the Ancient Kingdom were pirates, or had the same goals as pirates.

                                                                    Why would they want to unite the seas? Are you saying the fantastic and legendary One Piece is nothing more than a construction project? Kinda cheesy… Not horrible! Just...cheesy.

                                                                    Uniting the entire world and giving the people that much freedom.. Not really all that cheesy if you ask me..

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                                                                      @Dahaka.:

                                                                      What is the true prime goal for most of the pirates? It's "freedom". Freedom is very important in One Piece, it is very important for Luffy. Red Line and Grand Line are blocking this freedom, normal people can't really travel the world because of those two thing and they have to stay on their "blues".

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                                                                      Uniting the entire world and making it easier to get from island to island.

                                                                      This is the same logic as us destroying mountains such as the whole Alps to have more freedom because it's hard to get from one continent to another, which is stupid.

                                                                      On another hand, if RedLine was made by a group of people to limit freedom then yes there would be a reason to destroy it such as Berlin's wall. But chances are very low for Red Line to not be natural.

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                                                                        i completely agree with your "hidden pattern".i had realized that myself(my sig) and i think that it's also the "theme" of OP.that is what differentiates it from most other manga/anime.although i don't completely agree with the rest of the theory.it's logical,of course but i just feel something is not right about it.

                                                                        @beck26 can you tell us where oda said that about "moon cycles?"

                                                                        that which cannot be stopped:inherited will,a man's dream,and the flow of time.as long as man continues to seek out the answer to freedom,these things shall never be stopped.-PK Gol D. Roger

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                                                                          Great job on fitting everything into place, mind blown 😛

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                                                                            But why would the 20 kingdoms stop the AK then, if their intention was so good; freedom and unification?

                                                                            I guess you need that 'evil force that doesn't make any sense, and are just d-bags for the heck of it' in every anime and manga.

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                                                                              Dude you rule…

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                                                                                But why would the 20 kingdoms stop the AK then, if their intention was so good; freedom and unification?

                                                                                I guess you need that 'evil force that doesn't make any sense, and are just d-bags for the heck of it' in every anime and manga.

                                                                                Maybe because it would make things easier for pirates? They don't have to worry about going through FI and reverse mountain, crazy weather or Calm Belt anymore. Currently only the marines can sail their ships through Calm Belt.

                                                                                And is the destruction even that necessary? They don't know if it will work. It could just mess things up even more.

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                                                                                  @Kirk:

                                                                                  This is the same logic as us destroying mountains such as the whole Alps to have more freedom because it's hard to get from one continent to another, which is stupid.

                                                                                  On another hand, if RedLine was made by a group of people to limit freedom then yes there would be a reason to destroy it such as Berlin's wall. But chances are very low for Red Line to not be natural.

                                                                                  Didn't you read ? His theory said that only 2 locations need to be destroyed (reverse mountain + marineford), not the entirely redline

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                                                                                    Amazing theory! This thread seriously made my day.

                                                                                    Well, the day is still young. Happy Valentine's Day 😉

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                                                                                      Maybe because it would make things easier for pirates? They don't have to worry about going through FI and reverse mountain, crazy weather or Calm Belt anymore. Currently only the marines can sail their ships through Calm Belt.

                                                                                      And is the destruction even that necessary? They don't know if it will work. It could just mess things up even more.

                                                                                      Yeah, maybe they were worried about pirates going wild + seakings ramping the ocean.

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                                                                                        Didn't you read ? His theory said that only 2 locations need to be destroyed (reverse mountain + marineford), not the entirely redline

                                                                                        Well then it makes even less sense since you can already go into the differents seas through Reverse Mountain and Mariejoa. And I don't see why destroying these spots would stop all kind of weirdness from Grand Line.

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                                                                                          Well then it makes even less sense since you can already go into the differents seas through Reverse Mountain and Mariejoa. And I don't see why destroying these spots would stop all kind of weirdness from Grand Line.

                                                                                          Read his post again then, he explained it all there 😁

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                                                                                            And I don't see why destroying these spots would stop all kind of weirdness from Grand Line.

                                                                                            I'll admit this is the biggest hole in the theory. Unless, like you said, both red line are grand line(along with calm belt) were somehow artificially made. Though I have no idea why would someone built them in the first place or how the hell they did it. The possibility is there though…

                                                                                            second, we haven't actually seen any people who complained about the current geography. Made me wonder if uniting the ocean would actually be a big deal or not...

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                                                                                              a thought,

                                                                                              Uranus was named after the god of sky (the father of sky to be precised), so it might have the power to take complete control of weather. by that means, Uranus will help neutralizing the chaotic storm caused by the red line bombing, as well as eliminating grand line's abnormality to the core.

                                                                                              nice, nice, i like that idea.

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                                                                                                Well, we know that Sanji comes from North blue and people can go into differents sea without going into Grand Line, thats for sure. I dont think an huge ocean would be that cool actually, isn't Grand Line / New world what make the world of One Piece so amazing? I think it does.

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                                                                                                  This is without doubts the most refined theory we ever had, good job getting all pieces to make all this.

                                                                                                  funniest gif ive seen in a while LMAO!!!!

                                                                                                  EDIT: yo, do you guys remember that one piece world got 6 moons? and in the real world, there had been a rumor about all the planets aligning and causing a paradigm shift?

                                                                                                  what if uranus is like a big prism or mirror and it will be activated (or can be used) once in few centuries when all the 6 moons of one piece world perfectly aligns to each other? (reason why oda said to watch out for the phases of the moon)

                                                                                                  and the effect it gives is it will neutralize all the abnormalities of the one piece world after the red line is destroyed? (weather, magnetic fields, weird seas) it will turn into like a normal sea in real life.

                                                                                                  and it would be cool in my opinion if the final battle is held during an eclipse.

                                                                                                  *if its dumb then sorry….LOL...move on people, there's nothing here. 😄

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                                                                                                    Well, we know that Sanji comes from North blue and people can go into differents sea without going into Grand Line, thats for sure.

                                                                                                    couldn't argue with that, lol. it is indeed the fact… my friend pointed out the same thing.

                                                                                                    I dont think an huge ocean would be that cool actually, isn't Grand Line / New world what make the world of One Piece so amazing? I think it does.

                                                                                                    I disagreed with this though… Reader wise, they do make one piece world a lot more interesting, but majority of one piece people think GL/NW are no less than living hell. They would avoid them at all cost unless it's the only thing they could do.

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                                                                                                      The biggest hint towards this would be a kind of forshadowing with Laboon hitting himself on Reverse mountain. But the purpose to "why should we destroy Reverse Mountain" could be quite different than the one discussed here.

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                                                                                                        @Ashura_KingFisher:

                                                                                                        I'll admit this is the biggest hole in the theory. Unless, like you said, both red line are grand line(along with calm belt) were somehow artificially made. Though I have no idea why would someone built them in the first place or how the hell they did it. The possibility is there though…

                                                                                                        second, we haven't actually seen any people who complained about the current geography. Made me wonder if uniting the ocean would actually be a big deal or not...

                                                                                                        if the red line is made by someone, it would be the ones residing on it. the tenryuubito. no one ever climbed the red line, thats why fisher tiger became a legend. (and fisher tiger havent really climbed it, he became a slave reason why he raided marijoies.)

                                                                                                        it is obviously a wall to create a huge separation on the tenryuubito and the commoners, hard to climb, hard to reach and imprenetable. thats how scared they are from their own shadow.

                                                                                                        and the red line separating the 4 seas makes the 4 seas separated literally and figuratively. creating distance and preventing unity of the people. generally, WG and marines rule over the entire sea and they got all the advantage. if you look at it, there's really no freedom in one piece world, everything is controlled by the red line and the separation it creates.

                                                                                                        all of it, the calm belt, red line, reverse mountain etc. are all built to make it impossible or prevent the entry to marijoes.

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