Can blue nitro mean blue blood nitro ?
Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
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This flashback has made Midora out to be a little b!tch. At least Jirou was a badass.
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Can blue nitro mean blue blood nitro ?
I think blue nitros have special abilities compared to red ones. Think Nappa or Raditz as red ones - base saiyans while vegeta, goku as blue ones - the super saiyans.
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! So it's revealed one of the Eight Kings is/was Derous Dragon.
Kewl translations: http://mangahelpers.com/t/kewl0210/releases/38834
! I can't really understand Midora, indeed.
! Another thing: till now I found Jirou and Ichiryuu was real monsters when they were still very young, quite surely a lot stronger than Toriko and the others as they are now. But Midora didn't give me the same impressions. Ok, he went against a Derous Dragon and came back alive. But this isn't something that shocks me. I don't know why. I need to see Midora gaining the strenght who put him at the top of the world.
! And…for now, Ichiryuu, Jirou and Midora pale in front of their master Acacia. -
I have one thing to say… Mogo
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This flashback is really good. Midora is by far the most interesting character in the entire manga.
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http://hiwamatanoboru.com/2013/10/09/toriko-253-gintama-464/ It's out so people know. I know I said I wouldn't do this but…
Actually. I preface this. I don't think this series has reached the point of no return/every page pisses me off. And actually, after letting things stew for a bit, I'm still more or less positive about the flashback. But I do have my issues under the spoiler tag. These don't have to be read, especially if you don't like downer posts. And if you disagree with everything I said below, that's fine too.
! If Midora's primary motivation for forming the Bishokukai is that he's trying to get rid of the guilt for ending up killing Frohze, I think I'd be ok with that.
! If he's doing this and being selfish because he blames the world for Frohze's death, then I'm be seriously annoyed, even moreso than I am now.
! I've actually been wanting to draw the parallels of Toriko to Bleach for awhile, but c'mon. Zombies and person on the good side doing bad things after his worldview becomes warped. It's hard not to think about Naruto parallels.That being said, I'm glad this was handled early on in the series instead of say right before the climatic battle that leads to Midora's defeat.
! I find it infuriating that he doesn't seem to understand the concept of sharing, especially since the only reason he has a mom in the first place was because she was kind enough to take him in, and it bothers me that growing up with the others for years failed to teach him these lessons/manners about sharing. I get that there was that panel of the jerk who was ungrateful for the food, but I would think that if Midora was doing that for years, he'd remember the smiling faces like the ones Toriko and co. got when they delivered food to the world, or the influence of his family would've made an impact on his life. But like I said, if his primary motivation/rationale was solely due to Frohze's death, then I can get the skeptical slant in worldview and how that might be warped when looking bad and just remembering the bad times.
! And even with all that said, the whole point of him being a "villain" is that he doesn't understand these values, otherwise he wouldn't be a villain. (And even then, other than the rampant kidnapping of chefs and desire to eat all the world's food supply, his selfishness isn't even that big of a deal as far as villain standards go). So, all in all I can understand why Midora doesn't know this lesson yet, even if I find him that much more unlikable for not seeing it (which actually might be a good thing if he's meant to be irredeemable/true tragic villain without redemption).
! The other big thing is like many of the recent arcs, I felt the resolution could've used more room to breathe. Area51 pointed out that Midora's growth wasn't really shown in the flashback. That's a good example of the lack of showing. I still stand firm with my Setsuno nitpick. And the whole "descending into darkness" would've been much more effective if that was shown too, or at least the gourmet freakin' eclipse and suffering was shown instead of there just being a bunch of panels explaining the situation via text panels! Rushed. That always seems to be the case. Rushed.
! And did it bother anybody else that the narration went from third person to Midora's voice half way through? Admittedly, I think that's happened before in the series but it bothered me quite a bit. Or maybe it just irritated me that much more because of everything else.
! Honestly, unless I hear that the next couple volumes have amazing extras in them, I think I'm going to not only stop collecting new Toriko volumes, but I'll probably sell the ones I currently have. If the series improves, I'll gladly restart my collection. But I just don't want to keep investing in something if years down the line I end up absolutely loathing it or keep wishing the series gets better. -
! It also bothers me that Midora couldn't manage to change in the spawn of 10 years nor get through his thick skull that if the war ended then no more kids would go through what he did, and that he pretty much decided to go back to the way he was before meeting Fhroze.
! And yeah, everything felt so rushed, which sucks because this is probably the last chance we will get to see more of the interaction between Ichiryuu and his brothers. -
http://hiwamatanoboru.com/2013/10/09/toriko-253-gintama-464/ It's out so people know. I know I said I wouldn't do this but…
Actually. I preface this. I don't think this series has reached the point of no return/every page pisses me off. And actually, after letting things stew for a bit, I'm still more or less positive about the flashback. But I do have my issues under the spoiler tag. These don't have to be read, especially if you don't like downer posts. And if you disagree with everything I said below, that's fine too.
! If Midora's primary motivation for forming the Bishokukai is that he's trying to get rid of the guilt for ending up killing Frohze, I think I'd be ok with that.
! If he's doing this and being selfish because he blames the world for Frohze's death, then I'm be seriously annoyed, even moreso than I am now.
! I've actually been wanting to draw the parallels of Toriko to Bleach for awhile, but c'mon. Zombies and person on the good side doing bad things after his worldview becomes warped. It's hard not to think about Naruto parallels.That being said, I'm glad this was handled early on in the series instead of say right before the climatic battle that leads to Midora's defeat.
! I find it infuriating that he doesn't seem to understand the concept of sharing, especially since the only reason he has a mom in the first place was because she was kind enough to take him in, and it bothers me that growing up with the others for years failed to teach him these lessons/manners about sharing. I get that there was that panel of the jerk who was ungrateful for the food, but I would think that if Midora was doing that for years, he'd remember the smiling faces like the ones Toriko and co. got when they delivered food to the world, or the influence of his family would've made an impact on his life. But like I said, if his primary motivation/rationale was solely due to Frohze's death, then I can get the skeptical slant in worldview and how that might be warped when looking bad and just remembering the bad times.
! And even with all that said, the whole point of him being a "villain" is that he doesn't understand these values, otherwise he wouldn't be a villain. (And even then, other than the rampant kidnapping of chefs and desire to eat all the world's food supply, his selfishness isn't even that big of a deal as far as villain standards go). So, all in all I can understand why Midora doesn't know this lesson yet, even if I find him that much more unlikable for not seeing it (which actually might be a good thing if he's meant to be irredeemable/true tragic villain without redemption).
! The other big thing is like many of the recent arcs, I felt the resolution could've used more room to breathe. Area51 pointed out that Midora's growth wasn't really shown in the flashback. That's a good example of the lack of showing. I still stand firm with my Setsuno nitpick. And the whole "descending into darkness" would've been much more effective if that was shown too, or at least the gourmet freakin' eclipse and suffering was shown instead of there just being a bunch of panels explaining the situation via text panels! Rushed. That always seems to be the case. Rushed.
! And did it bother anybody else that the narration went from third person to Midora's voice half way through? Admittedly, I think that's happened before in the series but it bothered me quite a bit. Or maybe it just irritated me that much more because of everything else.
! Honestly, unless I hear that the next couple volumes have amazing extras in them, I think I'm going to not only stop collecting new Toriko volumes, but I'll probably sell the ones I currently have. If the series improves, I'll gladly restart my collection. But I just don't want to keep investing in something if years down the line I end up absolutely loathing it or keep wishing the series gets better.not just Midora, Shima failed to developed all of them, Acacia, Ichiryuu, Jirou and Setsuno. they were just there for the sake of being there. no matter where you look, there were no angle where Acacia was shown as someone with a caliber to change the world or even as a teacher/mentor/model and inspiration to 4 great peoples. the same with Ichiryuu too.. there is nothing even a simple big brother quality let alone as someone that is really important to the world someday. all we get is, he and jirou was so strong and did something important to the world off screen. Jirou was barely there.
i was hoping that we can get a little bit interaction and connection between Setsuno and Frohze but in the end it was nothing.. there is nothing that indicate that there was a teacher student relationship in the flashback.
we are not Bleach fans where we can ignore everything else just to focus on one new thing/revelation/history. i understand that this flashback is for Midora but doesn't mean everything else is just a lifeless background props. and all those thing were important too and not just Midora because, right now we are in the middle of Ichiryuu vs Midora, Setsuno-Joa/Frohze relationship was already teased before and whats more important is Joa/Frohze itself/herself, a little bit of hint/background for the Acacia fullcourse history too because we are in the middle of battle to get them.but no.. all we got is why Midora became a bad guy even though even that is not that interesting, meaningful or powerful.
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To be more positive, I do think Frohze was developed well, especially given the ending. It was definitely important that we get to know who Frohze was before she died so we care about Joa and that situation.
And I liked the banter between Jirou and Midora in the flashback, though I gotta wonder if their playful brotherly banter was just to set up Jirou and Midora and their banter will end up being foreshadowing of real friction in a future fight or something.
I'll also give Shima credit for giving the random details about Jirou/Ichiryuu. It wasn't the most interesting way to develop characters, but it was an attempt to give them a bit more flavor them in the flashback.
Though listening to the WMR podcast, they brought up something else that probably should've been expanded upon in the flashback. That fairy tale Midora heard about. That would've done wonders in both progressing the plot and giving Acacia time with his three sons (though even this I kinda get that the focus was meant to be on the Midora/Frohze relationship so…)
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http://hiwamatanoboru.com/2013/10/09/toriko-253-gintama-464/ It's out so people know. I know I said I wouldn't do this but…
Actually. I preface this. I don't think this series has reached the point of no return/every page pisses me off. And actually, after letting things stew for a bit, I'm still more or less positive about the flashback. But I do have my issues under the spoiler tag. These don't have to be read, especially if you don't like downer posts. And if you disagree with everything I said below, that's fine too.
! If Midora's primary motivation for forming the Bishokukai is that he's trying to get rid of the guilt for ending up killing Frohze, I think I'd be ok with that.
! If he's doing this and being selfish because he blames the world for Frohze's death, then I'm be seriously annoyed, even moreso than I am now.
! I've actually been wanting to draw the parallels of Toriko to Bleach for awhile, but c'mon. Zombies and person on the good side doing bad things after his worldview becomes warped. It's hard not to think about Naruto parallels.That being said, I'm glad this was handled early on in the series instead of say right before the climatic battle that leads to Midora's defeat.
! I find it infuriating that he doesn't seem to understand the concept of sharing, especially since the only reason he has a mom in the first place was because she was kind enough to take him in, and it bothers me that growing up with the others for years failed to teach him these lessons/manners about sharing. I get that there was that panel of the jerk who was ungrateful for the food, but I would think that if Midora was doing that for years, he'd remember the smiling faces like the ones Toriko and co. got when they delivered food to the world, or the influence of his family would've made an impact on his life. But like I said, if his primary motivation/rationale was solely due to Frohze's death, then I can get the skeptical slant in worldview and how that might be warped when looking bad and just remembering the bad times.
! And even with all that said, the whole point of him being a "villain" is that he doesn't understand these values, otherwise he wouldn't be a villain. (And even then, other than the rampant kidnapping of chefs and desire to eat all the world's food supply, his selfishness isn't even that big of a deal as far as villain standards go). So, all in all I can understand why Midora doesn't know this lesson yet, even if I find him that much more unlikable for not seeing it (which actually might be a good thing if he's meant to be irredeemable/true tragic villain without redemption).
! The other big thing is like many of the recent arcs, I felt the resolution could've used more room to breathe. Area51 pointed out that Midora's growth wasn't really shown in the flashback. That's a good example of the lack of showing. I still stand firm with my Setsuno nitpick. And the whole "descending into darkness" would've been much more effective if that was shown too, or at least the gourmet freakin' eclipse and suffering was shown instead of there just being a bunch of panels explaining the situation via text panels! Rushed. That always seems to be the case. Rushed.
! And did it bother anybody else that the narration went from third person to Midora's voice half way through? Admittedly, I think that's happened before in the series but it bothered me quite a bit. Or maybe it just irritated me that much more because of everything else.
! Honestly, unless I hear that the next couple volumes have amazing extras in them, I think I'm going to not only stop collecting new Toriko volumes, but I'll probably sell the ones I currently have. If the series improves, I'll gladly restart my collection. But I just don't want to keep investing in something if years down the line I end up absolutely loathing it or keep wishing the series gets better.IT is painfully obvious you do not know how traumas work. Stop reading now, for your own sake.
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not just Midora, Shima failed to developed all of them, Acacia, Ichiryuu, Jirou and Setsuno. they were just there for the sake of being there. no matter where you look, there were no angle where Acacia was shown as someone with a caliber to change the world or even as a teacher/mentor/model and inspiration to 4 great peoples. the same with Ichiryuu too.. there is nothing even a simple big brother quality let alone as someone that is really important to the world someday. all we get is, he and jirou was so strong and did something important to the world off screen. Jirou was barely there.
i was hoping that we can get a little bit interaction and connection between Setsuno and Frohze but in the end it was nothing.. there is nothing that indicate that there was a teacher student relationship in the flashback.
we are not Bleach fans where we can ignore everything else just to focus on one new thing/revelation/history. i understand that this flashback is for Midora but doesn't mean everything else is just a lifeless background props. and all those thing were important too and not just Midora because, right now we are in the middle of Ichiryuu vs Midora, Setsuno-Joa/Frohze relationship was already teased before and whats more important is Joa/Frohze itself/herself, a little bit of hint/background for the Acacia fullcourse history too because we are in the middle of battle to get them.but no.. all we got is why Midora became a bad guy even though even that is not that interesting, meaningful or powerful.
I don't think he's quite through developing all of them. I think that we'll definitely get more of Jirou and Setsuno, though not much more of Ichiryuu and Midora. As for Acacia, I'm fine with what we have of him. More would be great, but I think he's fine as a character just being great warrior food god.
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! Frohze's death was pretty underwhelming and rushed as well. Dying of exhaustion? And it'd be fine if we actually saw how much she went through to get to that point. But it was just implied and it all happened off screen. How am I supposed to relate to that? Not to mention she died so needlessly. And even if that was the point, it was stupidly forced and contrived. So Midora goes and gets cure water even when he didn't have to as Frohze just needed some rest. So when he came back torn to shit, rather than Frohze using her dark technique that killed her, couldn't she have just given him the cure water which was already established would work on him? Or drunk the cure water after performing her dark technique. What the fuck happened to that cure water?
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@Thousand:
! Frohze's death was pretty underwhelming and rushed as well. Dying of exhaustion? And it'd be fine if we actually saw how much she went through to get to that point. But it was just implied and it all happened off screen. How am I supposed to relate to that? Not to mention she died so needlessly. And even if that was the point, it was stupidly forced and contrived. So Midora goes and gets cure water even when he didn't have to as Frohze just needed some rest. So when he came back torn to shit, rather than Frohze using her dark technique that killed her, couldn't she have just given him the cure water which was already established would work on him? Or drunk the cure water after performing her dark technique. What the fuck happened to that cure water?
I had assumed he gave it to her, and that's why her Gourmet cells were so active, but it only works on extreme External injuries, which wasn't Frohze's issue at all.
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He passed out before giving her the cure water so one can only assume Frohze drank it to give herself enough power to use a dark tecnhnique. But again, wouldn't it have made much more sense to give Midora the cure water? Cut out the middle man, not have to die?
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To be more positive, I do think Frohze was developed well, especially given the ending. It was definitely important that we get to know who Frohze was before she died so we care about Joa and that situation.
And I liked the banter between Jirou and Midora in the flashback, though I gotta wonder if their playful brotherly banter was just to set up Jirou and Midora and their banter will end up being foreshadowing of real friction in a future fight or something.
I'll also give Shima credit for giving the random details about Jirou/Ichiryuu. It wasn't the most interesting way to develop characters, but it was an attempt to give them a bit more flavor them in the flashback.
Though listening to the WMR podcast, they brought up something else that probably should've been expanded upon in the flashback. That fairy tale Midora heard about. That would've done wonders in both progressing the plot and giving Acacia time with his three sons (though even this I kinda get that the focus was meant to be on the Midora/Frohze relationship so…)
on the positive note, yeah that's what i feel too even though on Frohze death, i am more incline toward TLC perspective. i really enjoy the last two chapters for all the reason that you've mentioned.
I don't think he's quite through developing all of them. I think that we'll definitely get more of Jirou and Setsuno, though not much more of Ichiryuu and Midora. As for Acacia, I'm fine with what we have of him. More would be great, but I think he's fine as a character just being great warrior food god.
i understand that Shima is still not finish with all this characters. that is why i said that we are not like Bleach fans. all those characters need to be realistic, in sync with the plot and all the revelations. its good to focus on Midora and Frohze, they are the main characters in previous arc and current arc for the latter but that doesnt mean others must became lifeless background props. furthermore, they are not nobody.. we know that each one of them are supposedly someone really great that do great thing but right now they were not being portrayed like one. they are not the main focus but doesn't mean they have to be portrayed like a retard or out of characters or simply in this case because we don't really know much about them, i'll go with "doesn't live up to their hype". remember, i don't mean each one of them must defeated monster with level 1000000.
and i don't want to do this but replace Acacia in this flashback with Gaimon from One Piece.. no different. we are readers. we are not one of people/characters in the manga. but the problem is, Shima treat us like one. its okay for the characters in Toriko hear something like, "Acacia, the food god who stop the world war with his food - God the apex of all food". but right now thats what we got from these flashback. we are there looking into Acacia, Frohze and their disciples life. other that Midora and Frohze relationship, we know nothing more. Acacia himself doesn't really behave like someone that capable of doing something great.
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We know nothing more? I feel like I know a lot more about the brothers three, just from their interactions with each other and their masters. And as for Acacia, we understand the role that he has in the story completely. What more are you asking for? "Acacia, the food god who stop the world war with his food - God the apex of all food." What more do we need than that at this point? There's clearly more to learn as we haven't seen him approach God. And why doesn't he behave like someone capable of doing something great? What does that even mean?
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For the first time first, I think Shima rushed something.
It's not the power development of his three disciples, we had some hints about this, like the capture of the Poison Boar, and we know Jirou and Ichiryuu were people at the top of the world for strenght when they were really young (maybe they were 25-30 years old). And although we don't know anything (for real!) about Midora development we know with this new chapter he was able to confront one of the Eight Kings and coming back seriously wounded but alive. So he could go to Gourmet World when he was really young (and we could think he was pretty stronger than the actual Toriko).What I don't get is his change. Ok, we have Frohze's death, we know how much Midora was attached to Frohze and how he suffered for her departure. But how Midora fell into the "Dark Side"? Why did this happen? By far, Midora is still my favourite character in the series. But I need more to understand him. I don't get why he want to eat everything, including GOD, for Frohze too. I don't know, really.
By the way, as I wrote before, not only Midora but Jirou and Ichiryuu too paled in front of their master Acacia, who captured EACH and EVERY ingredient of the world. Maybe now Midora is at his level. So I can't believe Toriko will ever reach that level.
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For the first time first, I think Shima rushed something.
It's not the power development of his three disciples, we had some hints about this, like the capture of the Poison Boar, and we know Jirou and Ichiryuu were people at the top of the world for strenght when they were really young (maybe they were 25-30 years old). And although we don't know anything (for real!) about Midora development we know with this new chapter he was able to confront one of the Eight Kings and coming back seriously wounded but alive. So he could go to Gourmet World when he was really young (and we could think he was pretty stronger than the actual Toriko).What I don't get is his change. Ok, we have Frohze's death, we know how much Midora was attached to Frohze and how he suffered for her departure. But how Midora fell into the "Dark Side"? Why did this happen? By far, Midora is still my favourite character in the series. But I need more to understand him. I don't get why he want to eat everything, including GOD, for Frohze too. I don't know, really.
By the way, as I wrote before, not only Midora but Jirou and Ichiryuu too paled in front of their master Acacia, who captured EACH and EVERY ingredient of the world. Maybe now Midora is at his level. So I can't believe Toriko will ever reach that level.
Midora is like that because he believes that nearly every person out there is an ungrateful bastard undeserving of the kindness and sacrifice that Frohze has demonstrated towards them. Midora was never able to get over his prejudice towards the common people and the flaws he sees in them. He sees the common men and all he sees are people willing to kill each other endlessly and perfectly willing to let his fellow man starve to death. Frohze sacrificing herself for them, one of the few people in the world that he actually was fond of, to him, was the ultimate insult. Frohze's death and Midora's role in it were only the things that drove him over the edge.
Of course, like all villains, if he had a different perspective on life and if he actually understood why Frohze chose to share and sacrifice herself, he would reach different conclusions. But he is incapable of that. His experiences molded his perspective into what it is and as such he couldn't see Frohze's point of view.
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So if the last panel is trying to say that Joa is zombie Frohze them who order the first attack of the four beasts, since it happened before Frohze death?
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Something about Midora's power growth: the first time he went to get the Cure Water he nearly died. After that he went and come back wounded but less seriously from time to time until the last one when he arrived at Frohze's grave in good shape. So he could have overcame Derous.
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sooo,midora is an idiot ladies and gentleman..he could have just waited for frohze to recover but he choose to force her to sacrifice herself..
also..i don't remember how powerful this "cure water" is..but couldn't frohze just use it raw on midora?its regenerative ablity seemed pretty powerful -
sooo,midora is an idiot ladies and gentleman..he could have just waited for frohze to recover but he choose to force her to sacrifice herself..
also..i don't remember how powerful this "cure water" is..but couldn't frohze just use it raw on midora?its regenerative ablity seemed pretty powerfulThe way I see it, Midora's condition was too severe even for the "cure water", which is why she had to push herself over the limit with a dark technique to save him. Its unclear if she drank cure water before she saved him, but she might have to gain more stamina to save him. Either way, the accumulated damage she suffered after saving Midora was too much, with "cure water" or no "cure water".
This could have been better explained in the chapter but this is what I am assuming. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
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So, Midora hated everyone but Frohze and when Frohze died to save him (in a very silly way) he become a greater hater?
I prefered Toriko with those dark hints of cannibalism even when fake, this is way too soft.
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@Thousand:
Frohze's death was pretty underwhelming and rushed as well. Dying of exhaustion? And it'd be fine if we actually saw how much she went through to get to that point. But it was just implied and it all happened off screen.
That was Midoras flashback from his point of view. And yes, it was meant to highlight the very random and (in his eyes) useless death of her.
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I liked the flashback and I am really happy that it wasn't a flashback that explained everything. I hope we will see more Flashbacks that sum everything up.
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The way I see it, Midora's condition was too severe even for the "cure water"
We have seen "favorite/high quality" ingredients restore the health of characters in similar states (take Toriko almost dying before eating the Bubble Fruits as a prime example), so it's hard to believe that something with the same effect couldn't have been enough to save Midora.
Anyway, we are finally back to the fights, which is what Shima truly excels at.
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@Señor:
We have seen "favorite/high quality" ingredients restore the health of characters in similar states (take Toriko almost dying before eating the Bubble Fruits as a prime example), so it's hard to believe that something with the same effect couldn't have been enough to save Midora.
Anyway, we are finally back to the fights, which is what Shima truly excels at.
Just because he wasn't missing a leg or a arm or ressembling a mummy or whatever, it doesn't mean that he wasn't in a very serious and near-death severe condition. And we don't really know enough about gourmet cells and this cure water to really guess what it can and what it can't happen, especially since we don't even know what kind of injuries Midora had. Acacia himself implied there's a limit.
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@Señor:
We have seen "favorite/high quality" ingredients restore the health of characters in similar states (take Toriko almost dying before eating the Bubble Fruits as a prime example), so it's hard to believe that something with the same effect couldn't have been enough to save Midora.
Anyway, we are finally back to the fights, which is what Shima truly excels at.
They explained in the chapter that "Cure Water" wasn't an ingredient, it was something used to allow preparation of an ingredient (Hinted to be CENTER).
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Well, I read the last 15 chapters again. The situation is confused. But it's a good confusion. Only this last chapter was a bit rushed but it's still very good. About the three disciples training I don't give that much importance. We had some hints, Acacia captured every single ingredient in the world and teached how to get them. The only ones he didn't tell anything to them were the ones in his Full Course. And the three disciples were of course at a much higher level than the Four Heavenly Kings if Midora, probably the weaker of the three then, some time after Frohze's death was able to confront Derous Dragon without any sign of damage. We don't know either how Zebra's power work nor Sani's. So it doesn't matter how Midora, Jirou and Ichiryuu (or Setsuno) gained their power.
Now I want to know about Joa's true identity and how Midora will react when he'll see her. But this won't happen soon. -
was her identity not hinted by the fact that we see something moving in her grave on the last page of the current chapter?
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was her identity not hinted by the fact that we see something moving in her grave on the last page of the current chapter?
That development at the end might be there just to deceive us into thinking what it is not.
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I only have one real theory as to where all of this is going:
We've seen with Toriko himself that the gourmet cell "entity" in him is both Toriko and not Toriko at the same time. It's part of him - the part that signifies his strength/power, but it certainly isn't the controlling force in his day to day activities. CENTER (or perhaps just mass amounts of cure water) has the unique property of reviving a person, but it only revives the gourmet cell personality within them. Meaning that you really aren't reviving the true person at all, but instead you're reviving only the primal gourmet cell aspect of them.
Basically, imagine if Toriko was killed and then he was revived with only his inner gourmet cell self in control. His personality, motivations and goals would be drastically different when compared to the normal Toriko. Frohze in her current incarnation possesses all of her original skill (much like Toriko in the above scenario would possess his fighting techniques), but without any of the compassion, morals, or bonds that otherwise defined and restrained her. Should be interesting to see how it's developed.
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I know it's CRAZY late in the game to be asking this… but how awesome is this series? I read the first chapter way way way back and I remember thinking it was gonna be a short lived series.... not for lack of story or art, but more because the concepts are a little abstract. Is this series worth the time to jump into? I'm assuming so given there's a 163 page thread on AP forums, but I just figured I'd ask.
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I know it's CRAZY late in the game to be asking this… but how awesome is this series? I read the first chapter way way way back and I remember thinking it was gonna be a short lived series.... not for lack of story or art, but more because the concepts are a little abstract. Is this series worth the time to jump into? I'm assuming so given there's a 163 page thread on AP forums, but I just figured I'd ask.
Right now is one of the most popular series in the Weekly Shounen Jump Magazine, so you should give it another try.
About content, is a pretty cool Battle Manga, and probably the shounen battle manga that better conveys fights(at least in the recent chapters).
Personal opinion, great, but it could be way better given more depth in the plot and more characterization(Right now is miles away from Naruto and Bleach, If you like those manga you will love Toriko). -
Anyone else thinking that cure water is the drool from king beast derous?
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We got drool and tears already.
There are 4 other liquids that might come from Derous, and most of them are kinda gross.
Let it be just some pool or something that has nothing to do with Derous.
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I expected more filler.
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Right now is one of the most popular series in the Weekly Shounen Jump Magazine, so you should give it another try.
About content, is a pretty cool Battle Manga, and probably the shounen battle manga that better conveys fights(at least in the recent chapters).
Personal opinion, great, but it could be way better given more depth in the plot and more characterization(Right now is miles away from Naruto and Bleach, If you like those manga you will love Toriko).I'm convinced. I'll jump into Toriko asap.
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@Galaxy:
I expected more filler.
was waiting for this. thanks :)
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Spoilers are out.
! The fight ends with Midora revealing his mimicry skills he displayed in the flashback to be able to do more than just simple imitation. Oh yeah, and the spice falls on the Human World while Midora is shedding some tears for what he did to his brother.
! Wanna know what he did? Well, he used his mimicry skill to copy Minority World and was able to control it to some extent. -
! so Ichi really is dead than….? Goddamn...
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I hate Midora. He's a brat.
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! He's gonna cry a river when he finds out that Fhroze was revived
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@Señor:
! He's gonna cry a river when he finds out that Fhroze was revived
! By Toriko standards he is going to cry a ocean.:ninja:
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spoiler pics: http://juinjutsuteam.forumcommunity.net/?t=55312960
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! Is that thing Midora's gourmet cell "monster"? Also damn, Ichiryuu is gone and it wasn't pretty. At least Midora shed some tears.
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! I don't trust those scenes showing an enemy from behind punching his oponnent lying in the ground.
! Please Shima, don't kill him :'( -
! Rest in peace, Ichiryuu… :(
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! No one can beat Midora, it's impossible. Hunger Space, Minority World and Mimicry Cry? It's overkill.