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    • Solid
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      I'm starting to wonder what kind of role Chimney will have… There must be a reason that she followed them.

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        @Irresistiblement:

        True, he did say that they were a reward for the Water7 CP9 members.. but Blueno and Lucci already have Devil Fruits, and Kaku seems to not be interested in one. So Kalifa is the only one who doesn't have a stand on the matter one way or another - she could get one. But that still leaves one left- I think Spandam will take it for himself… he has that kind of superiority complex.

        Plus, Spandam not being able to swim would be another joke that they could use - he is clumsy and even fell in the canal water in the Franky flashback. I don't know... I can totally see something like that happening, much to Spandam's misfortune. :laugh:

        Perhaps, Luffy is the one who eat both of these DF.

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          Some people have mentioned the cerberus connection, and doing a quickie search I noticed some people also used the name "Baskerville" for our judge. Though that search didn't show (unless I [likely] missed it) anybody who also seemed to think about the Hound of the Baskervilles. Which I think is a Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Sherlock Holmes story.

          The reason I mention this is "Baskerville" is from a story with "hound" in its title, and is also being used by a three headed person guarding the gates to the World Government, much like the three headed dog Cerberus.

          Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

          Statler: No you haven't.

          Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!

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            I'm pretty sure the three-headed guard is more a Monty Python reference than a Cerebrus reference. I mean, think about it, Monty Python is right up Oda's wacky alley.

            And Luffy won't eat those DF. It would cancel out his rubberness, and Luffy isn't Luffy without the Stretch Armstrong qualities.

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              Maybe, but I can't help thinking the three heads/cerberus similarities weren't, at least, a factor in giving him the name.

              Also, if this hasn't been mentioned before, I think I just noticed something about the World Government logo all the CP agents and Baskerville are wearing.

              The obvious inferrence is to the Five-Star Elders. But I also noticed that they could also signify East, West, North, and South Blue with the Grand Line in the center of them all.

              Has anybody mentioend that we now know Robin's birthplace now? (or at least the location of Ohara)?

              Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

              Statler: No you haven't.

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                @Mog:

                I don't think I've laughed this hard in days.

                That was the best thing ever. I only wish it were true.

                Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                Bad move, bub!

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                  @ sgamer and Satsuki: I think both of you are right. I won´t rewrite my theory again but if you click here you can see why I´m sure that Oda may have had both in mind. IMO it´s a plausible theory. 😃

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                    @Mog:

                    I don't think I've laughed this hard in days.

                    Neither have I.

                    As for the one in this chapter, Franky's just uh, you know… channeling Tom's spirit... kind of.

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                      @stephen:

                      Neither have I.

                      As for the one in this chapter, Franky's just uh, you know… channeling Tom's spirit... kind of.

                      By any chance do you have any proof on that?

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                        ….

                        In all of this power level and devil fruit mayhem I've looked over the fact that Tom's death was confirmed.

                        Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                        Bad move, bub!

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                          In all of this power level and devil fruit mayhem I've looked over the fact that Tom's death was confirmed.

                          Well, you think that's just Spandam trying to pull out what he wants from Franky?

                          BTW, the more I think about it, Jyabura's braid would look awesome on a k9 design not to mention that nifty scar.

                          No matter where you go, there you are.

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                            No scar. Guess it was only makeup after all!

                            Omae: What scar? His skin is smooth!XD

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                              That's one for the error books.

                              the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                God, that Chimney error just made my day. I can totally imagine her freaking out and going crazy on some poor CP9 member.

                                And wow, how was that missing scar-mistake missed? O.o

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                                  I am totally drawing that Chimney error. :laugh:

                                  . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Credo quia absurdum non credere. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                                    And wow, how was that missing scar-mistake missed? O.o

                                    In the LQ version (the phone camera), that panel's kinda blackened. No wonder ^^

                                    Go Carly! Make Mad Chimney!

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                                      Y'all keep talking about the strawhat pairing in the fight vs Cp9. BUt you keep forgeting two people that were also in the chapter 377 colorspread, spadam and franky. Well for starters there is no way in hell that spadam can take on franky alone.

                                      Wouln't it be cool if we finally get to see what happens when someone eats 2 devil fruits at the same time… (everyone runs off, franky left alone with spandam, franky breaks chains, spadam scared out of his mind, eats both devil fruits). When can (probably) assume they are both Zoan type fruits because they applify with power.

                                      It would be neat to see a part thing1 part thing2 in addition to the other transformations. (Imajine the havic he would reap if he got ahold of a rumble ball) It would be even cooler to see a part zoan part logia/otherkind person.

                                      In a side question does anone have any ideas about what the weapon usopp is carrying in the 377 colorspread is. It doesn't really look like a range weapon.

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                                        In the LQ version (the phone camera), that panel's kinda blackened. No wonder ^^

                                        Go Carly! Make Mad Chimney!

                                        I can't stop thinking about how much Chimney looks like the Fuhrer there. :laugh:

                                        . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Credo quia absurdum non credere. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                                          Carly, you are too cool for words. I am going to save that pic and look at it when I need a good laugh.XD

                                          Meg's Livejournal… danger danger!

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                                            @omae:

                                            Well, you think that's just Spandam trying to pull out what he wants from Franky?

                                            Exactly, Spandam could just be messing with Franky's head, here. It's all about the Pluton interrogation now, and I think Spanda will lay it on hard & thick and sadly, like I've said in the past, I think Franky will take an absolute beating here, like something really brutal either at EL or perhaps at Impel Down?

                                            Remember Spanda's been waiting years & years to get this chance & I don't think he'll be holding anything back, it's not only business here with Franky, it's also very personal.

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                                              funky drawing

                                              XD Eeeexcellent. I never did catch that mistake when I read the script.

                                              Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                awesome, i'm 2nd strongest XD w00t for me!!!

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                                                  Incoming! semi-coherent mumblings below.

                                                  I was at a really boring party on Saturday night with a friend & a lot of her work colleagues. I think I was the only sober sap in the joint that night, so I was mainly wandering around trying to occupy my mind, making with all the usual small talk. :glare:

                                                  Anyways…. the apartment the party was at had this balcony, which has this magnificent skyline view & below the complex was this rather large, expansive courtyard. So I'm looking out over towards the city, and naturally I'm at a party thinking of... One Piece, of course :laugh: =( and I had this idea for a really kick arse two page spread in the next chapter or the chapter after that.

                                                  Basically, the way Spanda misunderstood or was sort of misinformed about the damage situation on the main island, leads me to believe Oda may be leading us into a really cool spread with Spanda being cocky about the Strawhat being overwhelmed & how he couldn't possibly get past the EL forces by himself, as he said "It will only be a matter of time" before Luffy is subdued or killed.

                                                  Ok, I'm slowly getting to the point here. :rolleyes: So the Judiciary Tower has this straight down view of all the main island and Spandam will eventually look out the window, down to the main island with all his ignorant confidence, but instead of him seeing his men with everything under control. Instead he'll see this chaotic view of the island, with Marines & agents laying battered & bruised, buildings toppled & perhaps even the FF & Galley-la forces advancing through the main island gate and… to top it all off, he can see in the distance the Rocketman approaching full steam just about ready to smash past the fence & through the first gate!!!!

                                                  …and Spandam's expression on a side panel will almost be like when Eneru discovered Luffy's resistance to his electricity attacks. Now that would be like the best spread EVAR!11!!!1!

                                                  Sorry, sometimes I wish I could be more concise. :hmpf:

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                                                    u sure u're sober? 😃

                                                    One Piece Recaps

                                                    576 577 578 579+580 581 582-584: part 1 part 2

                                                    585-587 Formerly known as JackVance

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                                                      That sounds really good, Battle Franky. That would be awsome.

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                                                        @jackvance:

                                                        u sure u're sober? 😃

                                                        No… I leid. Ive ben totaly dunk off mi ass, 4 teh last 30 hors :wacko: =(

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                                                          If Spandam were trying to get something out of Franky, wouldn't it make sense if he said "Tell us about the blueprints and we'll let him live?"

                                                          I'm not denying what you're saying, I definitely think it could be the case (but kind of hope it isn't), but using a dead mentor as bait doesn't make too much sense to me.

                                                          the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit

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                                                            I like your idea Battle Franky. I so much can see it happen that Spandam looks out of the balcony excpecting the same view as always only to see panorama of destruction.
                                                            Kinda like Wormtongue didn´t expect to see that much an army of Uruk Hai when he went with Saruman to the balcony in LotR: The Two Towers. 😁

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                                                              Uhm, ooishi78, I don't know if someone noticed this and tell you this already (I didn't come to this forum so much, too lazy to read all 500 something post because I don't have that much time.

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                                                              marine: ah!! judge!! there's one marine causing problems on the main island…

                                                              marine: and we can't get ahold of director spandam!! please give us a course of action instead!!
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                                                              Uhm, I think this is just a silly mistake. Of course it is okay to make mistake but this one makes things a little bit strange. (Didn't meant to catch mistake or anything, I just read through.) Isn't that suppose to be a pirate (Luffy) that cause problem, not the marines?

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                                                                doh!!! umm… there's no mistake... didn't you guys know luffy was a marine??

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                                                                  doh!!! umm… there's no mistake... didn't you guys know luffy was a marine??

                                                                  ooshi78

                                                                  Copying Stephen, I see… I guess script writers don't feel like correcting their mistakes.

                                                                  Luffy: "I'am the man that is going to become the KING OF THE MARINES!!!"

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                                                                    huh? wtf are you talking about. it was fixed within 15 seconds. why don't you take a look before you post.

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                                                                    "Listen, you can send a stripper to my party if you like. It won't affect me because, as you can see, I am appearing naked, which I always try to do because I'm kind of a natural guy."

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                                                                      Just for the record, I do check all my scripts and catch about 95% of all the errors I make, but all I do is blaze through the dialogue for missing words or awkward grammar, no re-reads through the manga itself or word-by-word checks. My brain skips right over the names of the characters speaking, so I never catch that when it happens. Doing something 2,000 times tends to form habits… That's probably about the 10th time I've been called on that this year.

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                                                                        If Spandam were trying to get something out of Franky, wouldn't it make sense if he said "Tell us about the blueprints and we'll let him live?"

                                                                        Yeah, that would be a better idea but I think Spandam is literally just trying to piss him off. To justify that, I think Spandam is the kind of sorry sap who think Franky would actually beg for his life and give up the designs when threatened with death.

                                                                        He gonna get it.

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                                                                          I'm on page 8. I'll read the rest later, but I just want to point out that Spandam's teawase is 9 weaponless. I do hope he is like Kenshin, helpless without a weapon.

                                                                          -I'm so emo that my shirt don't fit.

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                                                                            i was just wondering… do you think the CP9 might have bluffed witht he BusterCall threat?

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                                                                              Yeah, you're right, and maybe, maybe.. Luffy is also bluffing with his dream, he just want some attention..

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                                                                                i was just wondering… do you think the CP9 might have bluffed witht he BusterCall threat?

                                                                                it might be a possibility. i can imagine spandam making something like that up…

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                                                                                  True, it could well be a total bluff in order to blackmail Robin, especially now since we know a little more about Robin's past & the 'Buster Call' fleet. She's vulnerable & Spanda could just be exploiting her weakness.

                                                                                  But on the flipside, think of the close proximity between the Marine HQ & the Strawhats, they are literally at the gates of the HQ. I'd think assembling & deploying the fleet would be relatively easy, even if they have to travel to W7 to engage the crew. So, it could well be the truth, who knows?

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                                                                                    yeah nothing thats been said in this arc is true there probably arent any ancient weapons either its all just a big lie by spandamXD

                                                                                    seriosuly i dont think hes lying about any thing so far…..

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                                                                                      the reason why i tought this (to prevent more idiotic replies…) is that Spandam is too much of a crazy power-seeking freak. actually i don't find enough reasons but the thing is: i'm starting to worry with some things: if spandam has the permission to launch a bustercall on the mugiwara in case of Robin's denial to help the CP9 the vice-almirals should all be waiting for the Go, and i consider a fact that Robin will join the StrawHats again after Luffy reach her. So the BusterCall would be used and i don't think that the Mugiwara can stand it, so as a plot-device from Oda to prevent such a huge fight at the base of the HQ Spandam could be bluffing. Of course he could be saying the truth and the mugiwara will just find a sneaking way to pass thru the HQ. The main reason of my tought is that i don't see the gorosei supporting the use of such public display of power on the behalf of a low-profile cypherpol. people would ask questions...

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                                                                                        idiotic?
                                                                                        ouch that hurts man but i just found it so funny that everyone was questioning everything spandams ever said,
                                                                                        so i thought i could make a joke about it👅

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                                                                                          I've been thinking, what if the buster call is only so frighting because of the Admirals? I mean the ships must be pretty powerful, but the strawhats aren't normal. So since the admirals aren't going to be on the fleet, Perhaps the strawhat's will be able to defeat it. Or perhaps by defeating the CP9 they have alreadt defeated the buster call.😁 Just food for thought.

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                                                                                            i was just wondering… do you think the CP9 might have bluffed witht he BusterCall threat?

                                                                                            I doubt it, Aokiji was supposed to have given them the authority to use it, which makes perfect sense considering that he personally went and checked on the Straw Hats just to see if Robin was with them. Why else would he do that except to verify CP's request to use it? Spandam also gloats about having the power of a Buster Call at his fingertips back when Frankfried is introduced, which doesn't make sense if it was just a bluff.

                                                                                            As far as the Tom line goes, I'm inclined to think that it's just Spandam being a prick.

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                                                                                            So the BusterCall would be used and i don't think that the Mugiwara can stand it, so as a plot-device from Oda to prevent such a huge fight at the base of the HQ Spandam could be bluffing.

                                                                                            Just because a Buster Call is declared doesn't necessarily mean that the Straw Hats will face it right now; it could be a running storyline that is in the background of the next few story arcs.

                                                                                            I doubt that they're ready to face a Buster Call right now as well; they would have lost to Hina's Squadron at Alabasta and I don't think that they've come far enough since then to take over a vastly more powerful armada, especially one that will be well aware of the capabilities of their opponent.

                                                                                            The main reason of my tought is that i don't see the gorosei supporting the use of such public display of power on the behalf of a low-profile cypherpol. people would ask questions…

                                                                                            Why would they need to involve Cipher Pol, let alone the non-existant CP9, in any public explanation of their actions? They used it against a 100 million bounty pirate and his crew which contained the legendary Nico Robin.

                                                                                            At a guess though, Spandam really doesn't care much about what the Gorosei think considering his comments about them being luke-warm. He'll see just how luke-warm they are after this is all over though, as they're going to be super-pissed about this whole storming of Enies Lobby business.

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                                                                                              i didn't even considered the Tom's line of Spandam, i believe Tom is dead alright… and sry about the idiotic, it wasn't as much directed to you as it was to the "everything is a lie including the weapons" reply

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                                                                                                Nope, Spandam definitely has the authoroty to declare a Buster Call. Just read his very first statement in chapter 365. He´s mainly talking to himself when he is happy about the power Aokiji gave him.

                                                                                                And another thing, this chapter even added more support to my theory that Lucci will get rid of Spandam. Let´s see what we all have:

                                                                                                1. In chapter 355 we see that it is Spandam who has the idea for the WG to get their hands on an Ancien Weapon. He tells the Gorousei about it. It´s not the other way around.

                                                                                                2. In chapter 365 he has the comic-book-villain classic text "Enough power to destroy the entire world: mine…!!! WAHAHAHAHAHAH..."

                                                                                                3. In this recent chapter he says: "By MY book, the old men running the government are WEAK!!"

                                                                                                Now this all makes him look like the classic guy who overthrows his superiors just because he thinks he can run things better and because he is power hungry. And if Lucci is loyal to the Gorousei he´ll definitely get rid of Spandam because like it was the case with Nero, he would think that Spandam would have lost sight of his objective.

                                                                                                IMO it could come to the point where Spandam will try to convince CP9 to follow him. Maybe that´s where the two Devil Fruits come into play. He might be planning to drown everyone in case they don´t want to follow him. Well that´s just an idea, but I´m sure that Spandam will turn the back on the Gorousei and that Lucci won´t like this development.

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                                                                                                  @Ubiq:

                                                                                                  I doubt it, Aokiji was supposed to have given them the authority to use it, which makes perfect sense considering that he personally went and checked on the Straw Hats just to see if Robin was with them. Why else would he do that except to verify CP's request to use it? Spandam also gloats about having the power of a Buster Call at his fingertips back when Frankfried is introduced, which doesn't make sense if it was just a bluff.

                                                                                                  As far as the Tom line goes, I'm inclined to think that it's just Spandam being a prick.

                                                                                                  Just because a Buster Call is declared doesn't necessarily mean that the Straw Hats will face it right now; it could be a running storyline that is in the background of the next few story arcs.

                                                                                                  I doubt that they're ready to face a Buster Call right now as well; they would have lost to Hina's Squadron at Alabasta and I don't think that they've come far enough since then to take over a vastly more powerful armada, especially one that will be well aware of the capabilities of their opponent.

                                                                                                  Why would they need to involve Cipher Pol, let alone the non-existant CP9, in any public explanation of their actions? They used it against a 100 million bounty pirate and his crew which contained the legendary Nico Robin.

                                                                                                  At a guess though, Spandam really doesn't care much about what the Gorosei think considering his comments about them being luke-warm. He'll see just how luke-warm they are after this is all over though, as they're going to be super-pissed about this whole storming of Enies Lobby business.

                                                                                                  What Spandam says about the Gorosei supports my thoery on the WG being corrupt. If Spandam get's the Pulton he would use it for himself proves that the Gorosei are easy to fool. The Gorosei fell to Spandam's lie and allowed him to change the WG policy to search the weapeon unaware of the corruperation in Spandam.

                                                                                                  Yet once this arc is over the Gorosei will be super-embarressed and super-pissed, instend of learning from their mistakes they are going to rise a bounty on the Mugiwara.

                                                                                                  In Alabasta Luffy actully saves the day, instend of the Gorosei thanking him they rose his bounty yet they did not care about Alabasta and the war going on there before. They sit on their butts mumbling to each other giving each other their own opition without question. The Gorosei are afried of pirates but they are not afried of what is happing inside the WG and they are not afried of any countries getting thrown in choas. I bet by the series end these guys would be overthrown due to their carelessness.

                                                                                                  Now I wonder what they are going to do after this arc.

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                                                                                                    ahhh nothing like reading stephen's translation to get the story clearer. nice theory ivotas and with that note from ch365 my "there is no BusterCall" is unexistent. With it i can even see Lucci beign Aokiji lil' brother

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                                                                                                      Predictions!

                                                                                                      Lucci= 4000. Fine, go to Luffy.
                                                                                                      Kaku=2200. Please God, let SogeKing FINALLY take on a second-in-command.
                                                                                                      Jyanbura=2180. Zoro?
                                                                                                      Blueno=820.
                                                                                                      Kumadori=810.
                                                                                                      Fukurou=800.
                                                                                                      Kalifa=630. Nami alright.

                                                                                                      I think Kaku goes to Sanji, since they both use kicks.

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                                                                                                        Hmm. I don't think the WG, as an orginization, is corrupt per se. You don't really get that feeling when you deal with the higher-ups; it's more like self-righteousness. In addition, most of the high-ranking Marines we've met have been good guys (Smoker, Hina, Garp, Aojiki, etc). Spandman kind of personifies this arrogant self-righteousness. He's evil but is not aware of it. He thinks what he's doing is right (same with all the Cipher Pol agents so far).

                                                                                                        And as far as the Buster Call is concerned, let's get real for a moment: it's "just" 5 vice-admirals and 10 warships. Luffy > Vice-Admiral. They already have Shichibukai-level bounties. I see a Buster Call as a good fight, but NOT over-powering or unfair.

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