Check this out and say WTF:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/140906/hungry-joker_ch1_by_no-group
Hungry Joker
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Seems interesting. I think I'll keep an eye on it
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Escher girl on colorspread…
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A fruit that gives you a superpower, eh? Why does it sound so familiar to me?
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I kinda like the idea. But I think I'll wait a volume or two before actually reading more. The main characters so far aren't interesting to me.
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Didn't get to me. Will give it a try, though.
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I thought it was okay until the fruit gave him superpowers. I hate sudden superpowers getting you out of hard situations.
I was reminded of Fullmetal Alchemist when Edward was stabbed by the rebar from the concrete, One Piece with the fruit concept, and Medaka Box with the old man watching people related to some superpower plot.
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Makes me wonder if they will track down different things relating to science (and religion). For instance: The main character ate an apple, and, talked about Isaac Newton while doing so. As you most likely know the whole story, Newton is famous for gravity and the whole 'apple…thing' that helped him to discover it. (The main character got gravity powers after eating the apple; a 'piece of knowledge'). Maybe...someone gets some 'piece of knowledge' related to Thomas Edison, and get's electricity powers (since Edison was the BIG electric scientist) etc. etc?
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Check out the one-shot before you start with chapter one!
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Well the one-shot was certainly more entertaining. Hoping the series will somehow move into that direction but it doesn't really seem like it.. Meh. Not sure what to think of it, bit plain.
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I thought it was OK. Caught my interest at least a little so I'll probably keep reading for a bit and see how it develops.
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I do like the take on Newton's apple and gravitation, tbh. However, now all "Eurekas" should have gravitational control as power, because it's weird if they have different things. Except - just got an amazing idea - their powers are based on another great scientific discovery!!
Oh boy oh boy that could actually be the case and it'd make the manga premise pretty interesting.. If that happens I so called it first!!!
3DS friend code: 2964-8756-2295Games: Pokemon Y & Alpha Sapphire
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Except - just got an amazing idea - their powers are based on another great scientific discovery!!
Well.
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Well.
I want this to happen now. God, I hope you're right.Me too!! Heard it here first folks lol
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I do like the take on Newton's apple and gravitation, tbh. However, now all "Eurekas" should have gravitational control as power, because it's weird if they have different things. Except - just got an amazing idea - their powers are based on another great scientific discovery!!
Oh boy oh boy that could actually be the case and it'd make the manga premise pretty interesting.. If that happens I so called it first!!!
Guy with Quantum physics power: He can do anything he wants until someone decides what his power is, at which point it becomes locked:ninja:
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In all seriousness though,if that's the case I want the villain to be based around the theory of relativity and have a more powerful version of the main's power, complete with light bending gravity powers
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Guy with Quantum physics power: He can do anything he wants until someone decides what his power is, at which point it becomes locked:ninja:
Lol.
In all seriousness though,if that's the case I want the villain to be based around the theory of relativity and have a more powerful version of the main's power, complete with light bending gravity powers
Yeah that'd be great. Also something based on Da Vinci, maybe. And Pythagoras, the power of endless maths!!!
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I don't see this manga lasting any longer than Magico.
The art's great, but the main characters are flat and boring. The plot's nothing to shake a stick at either.
Also, I get the distinct feeling that the author's only going to be looking up the basic concepts of things and tossing them in, rather than thoroughly researching them. A real shame since ~SCIENCE~ is the big thing here.
(It's interesting how he's putting religious undertones into it, though. Not something you see everyday in Jump.)
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Hungry Joker is the new Bulge
3DS friend code: 2964-8756-2295Games: Pokemon Y & Alpha Sapphire
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Hungry Joker is the new Bulge
This insinuates that HJ good art and a shallow story line. So far, I am so-so about HJ's art. Bulge appealed to me due to the wacky character designs, and interesting set pieces (in particular, steam punk machines). HJ's characters look very generic. The main protagonist and supporting protagonist do not have any remarkable appearances that will differentiate them from any back round stock photo of anime characters. It is almost…boring to look at (which is quite a contrast to Bulge which was quite fun to look at but a very dull/predictable read). Shounen characters (especially an action shounen title) should have outstanding main protagonists with even more outstanding features (both physically and mentally) to drive the story.
The supporting protagonist feels like a bland toss away background character (both in appearance, and function). She contributes very little aside from inciting the main character to talk and move the story. The main protagonist (whose name I can't even remember) feels very flat in almost all aspects as well. He is extremely dull to look at (which is a pretty terrible since I will be looking at him for the rest of the serie) and exhibits the same reactions as Keanu Reeves in the Matrix to his new-found super powers. Since this will be competing with Naruto and OP, I will make comparisons here about the characters (at their initial presentation):
OP: Goofy protagonist, very simple design (but matched with unique artistic style), enthusiastic, and fun-loving protagonist. A simpleton, but a loveable one. Jumps into things without thinking and suffers repercussions from it. (All this was gathered from the first chapter).
Naruto: Sympathetic protagonist (under-dog), very enthusiastic but also a trickster at times, ambitious, and loves taking on challenges. Very interesting design as well in spite of being contradictory to a "leaf village" motif but...eh oh well.
HJ: Genius child, placid, aloof-ish. Interested in discovering own past. Willing to break rules in order to learn more. Incredibly dull design with very little facial expression (lab coat, light hair, pale dead eyes...um yeah).A protagonist should be fun/interesting to look at. There is a reason why almost ALL shounen action protagonists have face faults (heck, even Ichigo had his share back in the day). Kids love wacky designs and colorful expressions. Unfortunately, you will find neither in this chapter whatsoever. I think the reason behind this is that the story is attempting a more serious presentation (which is a bad move if one is competing against the top stories in Jump).
The assistant is even worse. I believe she will be functioning as the "human" character within the story (like Bulma in DB, Beauty in Bobobo, so on). Apparently her character is where the jokes will manifest from. But unfortunately the jokes so far are so tired and dull, I can hardly even consider them jokes at all (i.e. Forgetting names is funny? Perhaps if there were face faults or some context it could have been funnier, but nope.)
However, the overarching concept of science (as well as religion) is actually pretty cool. Not too many shounen titles try to pull off science as its motif which is neat. The monster's design was also pretty cool (though not the best I have seen) and the background design is appropriate. Like Bulge, the story seems to follow a typical formula (kid wants to know more about his mysterious self, and gets super powers) so it is definitely not winning any points for innovation. Unfortunately, I do not feel too motivated to follow this story due to really...really dull characters/design and set up. What should I look forward to after this immediate chapter? Should I be invested in this protagonist?
After reading the one-shot, I was very disheartened by this story's direction. The One Shot was awesome with a lot of promise. The protagonist was MUCH more fun to read (as well as the secondary protagonist as well). The mangaka SHOULD have picked the more amusing one (bumbling, eccentric/crazy) that does experiments on himself just for shits and giggles rather than the dull one (cold, calculating) that sorta stares into space and makes observations. The science element is not nearly as strong in the One shot. However, if they combined the characters from the one shot and the science elements from the main story, I think HJ could have a decent chance.
I mean...look at this (protagonist's introduction in the one shot):
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/67091/hungry-joker_by_soul-of-manga/5 and compare it with this (protagonist's introduction in the main serie):
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/140906/hungry-joker_ch1_by_no-group/8
Tell me you didn't find the One Shot's protagonist's introduction to be amusing (compared to the main serie's). It is utterly disappointing. The One Shot was a really enjoyable read with the proper scientist archetype (and second protagonist) for an action shounen title.Look at this powerup:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/140906/hungry-joker_ch1_by_no-group/43
and then compare them with this one:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/67091/hungry-joker_by_soul-of-manga/37The Life-Counter and Blood concept gives a sense of immediacy of the story which makes it more fast paced and erratic (which is a good thing). Also it is a relatively refreshing concept to have a protagonist dying at the beginning of the story and rushing to keep his life from expiring. This story has a chance to salvage itself (especially if the protagonist turns more towards his goofy one shot self). Giggling psychopath scientists are awesome. It is such a shame there aren't very many as protagonists. I really do hope the protagonist changes soon before it dies like Bulge.
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Einstein licked a banana.
Some bishi took a bite out of the banana, now he shits rainbow beams out of his ass.Tessla licked a pineapple.
Some loli slut took a bite out of the pineapple, now she shoots lightning out of her nipples.You want that sort of thing, right?
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I was only going for "getting canned soon" lol…
Einstein licked a banana.
Some bishi took a bite out of the banana, now he shits rainbow beams out of his ass.Tessla licked a pineapple.
Some loli slut took a bite out of the pineapple, now she shoots lightning out of her nipples.You want that sort of thing, right?
… definitely, that sort of thing!!! (cue some Furuichi innuendo)
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Crappy writing, mediocre art, definitely a check-back-in-50-chapters kinda thing. Still, the one shot was okay. There's promise?
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It's like there's this invisible force pressing down on my soul that will not allow me to check the latest chapter. I just… no matter how hard I try, I can't click the link.
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Could that force be… Gravity?! DUNDUNDUN!
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Not a fan so far. The apple is an interesting symbol, but the characters and plot were terrible.
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The biggest challenge this manga faces is going to be pacing, I think.
I mean…. 50 pages. And what happened?
"We found a glowing body. My lab was attacked by a superzombie, I ate an apple and beat the zombie with superpowers."That's pretty much it. There was just way too little happening to excuse FIFTY pages.
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I think the chapter was trying to fit in as much exposition/lore/world development as much as possible within this single chapter. There were heap loads of text which really marred the pacing (especially for the first chapter). A lot of it could have been parsed out and placed into another chapter (explanation of the glowing body, some parts of the protagonist's background, and a few other minor details).
Hopefully this means the story will move at a faster pace after this chapter. Overall, the premise and setup is better than Bulge, but I foresee other problems with this serie.
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I will admit I'm intrigued, even though chapter 1 was a little…not good.
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Soma has erotic fanservice.
Kiruko-san has moe.Unfortunately Hungry Joker so far has nothing… well, great art, but that's about it.
It lacks the catch to fish up the readers.That can all change in 8 weeks, let's see what happens.
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Just read chapter 3, I'm interested, but, how do I say this.
When I'm reading Hungry Joker it feels like the series is already 100+ chapters in, and I just picked a couple of random chapters that happened to be battle chapers.
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Just read chapter 3, I'm interested, but, how do I say this.
When I'm reading Hungry Joker it feels like the series is already 100+ chapters in, and I just picked a couple of random chapters that happened to be battle chapers.
Soma's chapter 1 was glorious, and Kiruko-san ch2 was a fun read.
HJ ch3 is completely out-shined by the other two new series so far, I really feel that "let's cram all the origin baggage into dialogs in the first chapter and hit the floor running!" isn't actually working in favor. -
Soma's chapter 1 was glorious, and Kiruko-san ch2 was a fun read.
HJ ch3 is completely out-shined by the other two new series so far, I really feel that "let's cram all the origin baggage into dialogs in the first chapter and hit the floor running!" isn't actually working in favor.I know what Kiruko-san is, what is Soma? All I can find is a finished manga from 2005 called The Legend of Soma
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Hm, all I can say is that I was right :ninja: not much of a great prediction though, about the "Eureka"… never mind.
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I read through to the current chapter and I must say I am looking forward to future chapters. I read the oneshot and I don't think it was as good as the current series. I can't wait to see what Pythagoras' Hammer does, and future items/foods scientists had.
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Hungry Joker #06 Raw: http://juinjutsuteam.forumcommunity.net/?t=49156494
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I enjoyed it so far. The whole Eureka thing and gravity being the power of the good guy is pretty new (I just think of Blackbeard and that mamodo from Gash Bell [aka bad guys] when I think of gravity). The art is decent and the fight between Killed and Haiji was pretty sick. The assistant is really boring and pointless and hopefully will develop into something more. I'll keep reading it for sure. Even with it's flaws it has an interesting storyline and plot points but it's nothing groundbreaking. As for it's chances FT has no character development, until Tenroujima had no real connection the Zeref and dragon plot points. Bleach has no background art at all and goes very small distances in 15 pages with most pages being massive panels. Naruto has Sakuro and Ino who have less character than the assistant. So even with the flaws the top tier manga still do very well meaning this has a chance, not seeing it as big 3 potential at the moment but definitely a KHR and Toriko potential. This is assuming it doesn't fall of the bridge in 20 chapters, I think by 20 or 30 chapters you'll see if this has longevity. I'm gonna keep reading it because I'm missing a manga chapter after KHR ended.
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Don't know about you guys, but I really like the idea of powers coming from Scientific discoveries…. it's really original and new to me, plus, you get to learn some cool stuff if you didn't know about them already
educational and original... nice 
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I know what Kiruko-san is, what is Soma? All I can find is a finished manga from 2005 called The Legend of Soma
Shokugeki no Soma is the third of the new series that cropped up at the end of publishing year 2012 in Weekly Shonen Jump. it's an ecchi cooking manga, like Yakitate Japan, but a bit better, maybe.
Anyway, yeah, I'm not huge on Hungry Joker. It's… not good, not bad, most of the time at least. Just painfully average. A death-knell for a battle series.
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So is it cancelled yet.
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It hasn't been Barraged out of Jump yet. Give it a few weeks assuming the story remains consistent.
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there's no point speculating this early into a series' life. There's little indication of whether readers in Japan like it (after all, they're the ones who matter), and it'd have to be a bomb on the level of Chagecha or Hand's to be in danger of cancellation this early on.
If it does bomb, though, statistically it'd be over in about 8-10 more chapters.
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After re reading the whole series, I honestly think I like this character more than Naruto.
Name another main character that is smart and apathetic. And I'm talking MAIN main, not semi-main.
The use of the amber rod instead of Nikola Tesla or Thomas Edison was a great twist from the norm. Still interested to see how this series develops.
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I feel like it's slowly getting better, however whether that's enough to draw in the Japanese readers or not is anyone's guess. I'm personally thinking not, but we'll see. This mangaka is going to learn a lot from this no matter what, though.
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I don't think the protagonist is terrible, no.
The pacing and storytelling are abyssmal.He's a really good artist, so GO GRAB A WRITER ffs.
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It's just a bland "power user vs power user" series without the charm of Ueki, Gash Bell and Medaka.
I also want to strangle that shitty assistant girl.
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Mayhap you have some issues, then. bit of an overreaction towards fictional characters, ne?
I think how it comes out of this arc'll determine its odds of survival. Something as significant as a base attack is usually a transformative tactic, to change the environment for the better. As logn as it doesn't pull a belmonde and screw the pooch with how it comes out of it, I think it might well make it as a middling series a while longer.
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This arc?
You mean, the going straight into traditional ability dukefest before even laying out the stepping stones and foundation of the premise properly?
Seriously, the manga is written like it's straight out of "I just followed these boing instructions for cliche battle manga" in a dead-beat style, without injecting any unique characteristics of the writer. Generic isn't even the word for it, it's like a text-book boredom generic.You may get away with that in Magazine or Champion, but in an oversaturated Jump, you HAVE TO have strong flavor of the writer or it's gonna sink like a barrell.
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I would just like to notify the thread of how not reading this series I am. Like, if the option to eat my toenails or read this series presented itself, I would go down on those toenails. By the way the protagonist's face reminds me of a toenail. Fairly bland. Unoffensive.
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@Maxy:
Mayhap you have some issues, then. bit of an overreaction towards fictional characters, ne?
I think how it comes out of this arc'll determine its odds of survival. Something as significant as a base attack is usually a transformative tactic, to change the environment for the better. As logn as it doesn't pull a belmonde and screw the pooch with how it comes out of it, I think it might well make it as a middling series a while longer.
I assume you were not around to see what happened to Bulge? If it's bland (AND new), it is highly unlikely the serie will survive at all. Bulge at least had decent art going for it, but this has nothing (err aside from utilizing a fairly interesting concept, but the author isn't handling it in a very compelling way).
The ideas presented in this serie is pretty cool, but unfortunately all of it is bogged down in complete blandness in design, pacing, and writing. There is nothing going for it whatsoever which leads me to predict that this serie won't last much to see all its ideas come to fruition. Bulge ended in about 16 chapters so I am going to predict that this serie will be canned in around 20-30 chapters.
The one shot had a better setup than this. It is truly a shame the author did not follow through with it and swapped a lot of the dynamic characters with dull archetypes.
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Man, I've been around for Barrage and many more over the years. It's always possible to pull yourself out of a bad direction, if you just create an interesting story. even a series that crashes because of a poor choice of arc can pull itself up, I mean Sket Dance used to crash and burn all the time and now look at it. I don't think much of Hungry Joker, but it's got enough potential now that a few good choices could save it from itself. If it doesn't manage that then I'll call it dying at the 19-chapter mark in lieu of Cross Manage (Date-senpai's already done for, so I doubt even the death of HJ could save that).
Also we're gonna have to agree to disagree on the one-shot. I'm still amazed that thing won the gold future cup
