Law felt the energy form the sea stone. Haki, right?
Chapter 662: Shichibukai Law vs VA Smoker
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Okay after this chapter I think the Ope Ope no Mi needs to be explained more, I hope 'Mes' when it concerns removing organs has a very small range and can be blocked or dodged in some way through either CoA or CoO, otherwise he can basically kill anyone if he focused on hand to hand combat and CoO. I don't think Smoker is dead now though, most likely Law can keep his victims in a paralysed state by removing their vital organs and if he chooses so, can end their life by destroying the organ afterwards.
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After making a big stink in the spoiler thread, Law vs Smoker actually isn't bad at all. It's basically the same scenario as Croc vs Luffy round 1 (or 2 maybe?) in Alabasta. Croc had a hax DF move (dehydration) he used to KO Luffy, but after he used it once, and it became a known factor, he wasn't able to land it successfully on Luffy again. What happened this chapter is the same deal, and that move would likely not work out again now that Smoker can't be caught off guard by it.
And speaking of Smoker, i think it's safe to say now he's the Marine version of the supernova. Roughly as strong as they are now, and bound to get a lot stronger in order to keep pace. I'm just glad the eventual Luffy vs Smoker fight wasn't spoiled by this chapter which is what i feared most.
And now speaking of Law, i'm still really interested in seeing him in a serious fight again. He's mainly just caught people off guard with his DF so far. I'd love to see how he fights in a real tough draw out battle.
Oh, and the DF negating haki is how you fight Law, for you guys wondering. I'd wager that if Smoker and at least Sanji as well so far were prepared for the heart stealing attacks, they would have be able to defend.
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Sh*t, I just can't imagine a way to defeat Law, I hope Oda has something interesting to that effect !
A good enough sniper from a range beyond his room radius could pick him off with a headshot. And I can see a Logia user who keeps their distance and has a strong element ability also able to pull it off. BB has a chance with his DF nagting abilities too.
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Great chapter, save for Tashigi's part. This scene is a repeat of what happened in Alabasta sped up, and it just shows that Tashigi hasn't grown as a character since Lougetown. She'll probably be like this until whatever storyline she has with Zoro is resolved, and at this rate I'm pretty she that storyline will involve her compromising somehow. It doesn't sound like a plot that's worth waiting for years to end.
Now, the scenes with Smoker and this mysterious master were way more interesting. It's nice to see Smoker struggle a little.
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Master looks a lot like Hawkins to me in this chapter.
That's what I thought as well, and since everyone's been talking about how he was connected with "killing" Brownbeard, there's at least a connection.
Meanwhile CROCODILE CENTAUR! Never stop being awesome, Oda.
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Something is not hax because you can't immediately think of a way to beat it.
Guess what - Logia was "hax" before Haki (excluding Croc and Enel, obviously.) -
Sh*t, I just can't imagine a way to defeat Law, I hope Oda has something interesting to that effect !
Whatever he swaps within the Room, has to have an analogue. For example, he needed snow to swap those bullets. If you caught him in a wide-open space, or put him in a position where he didn't WANT to swap something closer to himself, he'd be in trouble. This "he can shrink the Room around your organs" crap is pretty OP, but he probably can't do that if you've got CoA.
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That's what I thought as well, and since everyone's been talking about how he was connected with "killing" Brownbeard, there's at least a connection.
Meanwhile CROCODILE CENTAUR! Never stop being awesome, Oda.
Yes, I also thought of Hawkins, but his personality is not like that at all…this M is a typical bad guy-idiot...
Anyway, Harpy for Nakama... lol
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No observation Haki for Law as it seems. He fell for that sneak attack quite easily
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No observation Haki for Law as it seems. He fell for that sneak attack quite easily
Smoker seems to lack it as well. Was it ever stated that VA's had to be able to use more than one kind of haki, or was it just any kind of haki, period? I'm starting to feel as though people like Luffy who use all three, or even just both armament and observation, are somewhat rare.
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@Dan:
I'm starting to feel as though people like Luffy who use all three, or even just both armament and observation, are somewhat rare.
If it weren't rare, a ton of characters would have the ability to punch out Logias. That would be pretty disappointing.
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People have got to stop overanalyzing Haki.
Everybody was perfectly able to dodge attacks without Haki and having CoC does not mean you will see everything coming ever. Jesus. -
M looks alot like Basil Hawkins in this chapter. It would also explain why Brownbeard is here. "m" could stand for Magician.
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This sounds dumb, but here's my "Pirates of the Caribean 3" theory.
2 years ago, Law has an operation on Luffy, which he removed Luffy's heart (which explain the chest scar). Since they were on Amazon Lily and Hancock always wanted to win Luffy's heart, Law removed Luffy's heart and gave it to her. Now Hancock became Elizabeth Swan who keeps the heart in the chest, and Luffy being William Turner. Next chapter, Luffy vs Law, and Law can't do shit cuz Luffy got no heart now. And with Gear Second, i think Luffy would be fast enough to stop Law before his attacks.
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Awesome chapter. "Weaklings Can't pick their way of Death." Sweet quote! (Reminds me a bit of the first Mihawk- Zoro fight actually)
I'm happy that Law isn't outright killing people. He is being a down right bastard and playing up being a villain, but it still seems like he values life.On the three pictures under Luffy on the Bounties page, I'd guess it was an angry Garp next to Dragon and Ace. Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji were in the plaza in Shabondy (before Fishman Island) which I guess is where they got their pictures updated. the rest of the crew will probably have to wait to get back into civilization get new photos (unless Smoker's crew finds some way to take photos while being completely useless.)
Master mentioned that Law was only supposed to chase Smoker away and not kill him (due to unwanted suspicions at Marine HQ) which made it seem like the Master was calling the shots. The relationship between Law and Master is there but I'm looking forward to seeing the "why" behind it. Is it a willing partnership? Driven by necessity?
HAPPY shirt on the hot Harpy was a bit amusing. From her short interaction with Master it seems like she likes mischief. The way her legs are jointed is a tad creepy, albeit the bottom joint is probably just her elongated heel.
The final pages seem to imply that Law teleported Smoker, Himself, and pieces of the ship. I wonder how that would factor into his Devil Fruit ability. Law's finding of the den den in the previous chapter reminded me a bit of Chopper's Scope ability in brain point.
Luffy seems pretty happy, while Law seems very disgruntled to meet one another again hehe.
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I wish Oda would address the connection between Law and M in the next chapter
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This sounds dumb, but here's my "Pirates of the Caribean 3" theory.
Wouldn't it make more sense for the character who legitimately has no heart, and is already in 206 pieces, to counter Law?
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Law's ability is not at all hax, since it can be dodged. Law needed Smokey to have a blank spot ("there's some scenery you can't see"), so Smokey couldn't dodge, to be able to get Smokey's heart.
CoO and lightning speed are the keys to counter Law, and Luffy has both.
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People have got to stop overanalyzing Haki.
Everybody was perfectly able to dodge attacks without Haki and having CoC does not mean you will see everything coming ever. Jesus.If you don't like it, don't read it?
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Armament and Observation Haki are "common" among stronger people. Anyone can learn both of them.
This sounds dumb, but here's my "Pirates of the Caribean 3" theory.
2 years ago, Law has an operation on Luffy, which he removed Luffy's heart (which explain the chest scar). Since they were on Amazon Lily and Hancock always wanted to win Luffy's heart, Law removed Luffy's heart and gave it to her. Now Hancock became Elizabeth Swan who keeps the heart in the chest, and Luffy being William Turner. Next chapter, Luffy vs Law, and Law can't do shit cuz Luffy got no heart now. And with Gear Second, i think Luffy would be fast enough to stop Law before his attacks.
What the hell.
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Cool chapter Law is Hax, I actually didn't care for Law before that much but I'm enjoying his character a lot in this arc.
Edit: lol just noticed Sanji poster after reading the comments, I was hoping Oda would stop joking about that XD.
Seems like even the marines see Usopp is Sogeking but his face is still kinda covered so Luffy and Chopper still won't get who the fuck he is most likelly.
personally i believe that there is a reason why sanji's picture is a joke..
if you trace back to where Sanji's wanted picture was first taken the photographer told his boss that the photo came out weird when he took sanji's pic
i cant remember which chapter was it and i am too lazy to find it but i am sure some of you would remember it..
the chapter ended off with the boss reprimanding the photographer that maybe he did not take off his lenses while taking the pic of Sanji, but personally i found that really weird but did not really care much about it anymore till i read one piece a 2nd time and came across that chapter again, and this new bounty pic just seems to confirm it - that sanji is unable to appear in real photographs for some reason..
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People have got to stop overanalyzing Haki.
Everybody was perfectly able to dodge attacks without Haki and having CoC does not mean you will see everything coming ever. Jesus.It really does feel like some of these people will consider haki as an explanation for damn near anything now, even simple gags. It's becoming tiring to read lol.
M looks alot like Basil Hawkins in this chapter. It would also explain why Brownbeard is here. "m" could stand for Magician.
I doubt M is Hawkins, as one is a straw dude while the other is a liquid/gas dude. The facial features are similar though, so maybe there is some sort of connection between the two, though I wouldn't be surprised if there was nothing going on here. And I kinda figured the M stood for Master, like it says in the furigana or whatever.
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Frankly, I think luffy should give law an ultimatum. Return smokers heart willingly or by force. Law comes off way too arrogant and that's reason enough for luffy to serve him a nice piece of humble pie. GOOO LUFFFY :happy:
Also, the so called 'gatling' attack that smoker performs are from his fists right?
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Looks like MR messed up the harpy's name. According to CCC (and Aohige from what it seems) it's Monet and not Mone.
And of course I want to see her as the next nakama. ^_^
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personally i believe that there is a reason why sanji's picture is a joke..
if you trace back to where Sanji's wanted picture was first taken the photographer told his boss that the photo came out weird when he took sanji's pic
i cant remember which chapter was it and i am too lazy to find it but i am sure some of you would remember it..
the chapter ended off with the boss reprimanding the photographer that maybe he did not take off his lenses while taking the pic of Sanji, but personally i found that really weird but did not really care much about it anymore till i read one piece a 2nd time and came across that chapter again, and this new bounty pic just seems to confirm it - that sanji is unable to appear in real photographs for some reason..
He is a vampire!
No seriously… He appears for real in this pciture after all... jsut the back of his head. I think it is only to let Sanji work behind the scenes while fodder marines won't recoginze him... Like Mr Prince, Enies Lobby, Absalom and so on.
In the future me thinks he willd os ome serious shit undercover for the marines finally recognizing him as he mentioned in TB against Kuma
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And I kinda figured the M stood for Master, like it says in the furigana or whatever.
This character may actually be made of poison gas/liquid, in which case, the M may stand for Magellan. o:
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A very good chapter!
The fight between Law and Smoker was awesome!!!
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Law looks invincible and has a super attack that looks unbeatable….but so did Crcodile, Enel, and even Smoker at one time. You have to be intimidated by the enemy if their is going to be any tension. Of course he's not unbeatable, he just has to look that way so if there is a chance he gets in a fight with Luffy, we feel tension.
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personally i believe that there is a reason why sanji's picture is a joke..
if you trace back to where Sanji's wanted picture was first taken the photographer told his boss that the photo came out weird when he took sanji's pic
i cant remember which chapter was it and i am too lazy to find it but i am sure some of you would remember it..
He forgot to take the lens cap off.
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I am glad that Law doesn't intend to kill Tachigi. For me his face shows always the expression of "I do what I have to, even if I don't like it", so I think he is one of the good guys after all. His line "What are you marines scheming!" is interesting. I sense that Law has a big background story.
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Question: Underneath Luffy's picture there is obviously Ace and Dragon. Who is that 3rd guy to the left of Dragon? Or is that just some unrevealed dude?
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His line "What are you marines scheming!" is interesting.
Maybe Law saw something of Vegapunk's on the island, which revealed a longstanding marine plot.
Or maybe the M character is just lying to Law, in order to manipulate him. -
I am glad that Law doesn't intend to kill Tachigi. For me his face shows always the expression of "I do what I have to, even if I don't like it", so I think he is one of the good guys after all. His line "What are you marines scheming!" is interesting. I sense that Law has a big background story.
Too bad Tashigi had to give her typical "Kill me!" crap.
Question: Underneath Luffy's picture there is obviously Ace and Dragon. Who is that 3rd guy to the left of Dragon? Or is that just some unrevealed dude?
His name is Garp =P
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Law won by taking his heart so we see what he did to the 100 pirates also the master guy sure does look like hawkins a bit maybe law changed his body he is a dark doctor and brownbeard is on the island as well.
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Are you sure its Garp? He looks bald, has a goatee and multiple scars on his right face rather than the single line Garp has.
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This chapter should be named:
"I fought [the] Law and [the] Law won".And I'm happy it was not a crappy interrupted battle. Fuck Yeah.
And I'd laugh my ass off if the heart just faded as smoke and Luffy saved Law from getting impaled from behind. That would make me rofl. -
So does the mysterious master look like Basil Hawkins or am I imagining things?
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Smoker put up a pretty good fight, seems strange that Law's power suddenly worked on him. -
Question: Underneath Luffy's picture there is obviously Ace and Dragon. Who is that 3rd guy to the left of Dragon? Or is that just some unrevealed dude?
I thought the third one was Hancock because ace is dead.
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i believe its garp. so the article must be explaining about luffy's relation to ace dragon and garp. that makes sense.
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i dont think the photos in the newspaper is the new bounty posters. they already use a nice photo of luffy which we can clearly see his face, why would they changed it to side view photo? also, sanji's face horrible drawing is more informative than a photo of his back head. so yeah, i dont think its the new bounty posters. -
So does the mysterious master look like Basil Hawkins or am I imagining things?
I really don't think that's Hawkins. Hawkins is calm, cool and collected. Very monotone. This M guy is more excitable and animated. Like Buggy.
Smoker put up a pretty good fight, seems strange that Law's power suddenly worked on him.
Not strange really. He created an opportunity and caught him by surprise.
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No observation Haki for Law as it seems. He fell for that sneak attack quite easily
Or maybe the attacker has a superior CoO… just like when Whitebeard did a succesful sneak attack on akainu at marineford, for example. I believe it works the same way with CoA too - like in that scene, during the war, in which Vista and Marco's haki attacks didn't harm Akainu's logia body.
Well...in the end, we'll have to wait until Oda explains how the haki of one person actually affects the haki of another. Great chapter,by the way. -
Those thinking it's Garp, I don't think it is. I think it might be Dadan, as Garp wouldn't be included as he isn't a pirate. Still, who knows?
Another good chapter, and now I'm definitely thinking this 'Master' is some kind of Candy logia. Hell, he looked quite tree-like at times. Oh, and Monet the Harpy is pretty cool. -
Yes, I also thought of Hawkins, but his personality is not like that at all…this M is a typical bad guy-idiot...
Anyway, Harpy for Nakama... lol
It's been two years though and anything could happen? Example, Hawkins's prediction of death for Brownbeard didn't come true, so he started questioning his readings, fell into despair further and lost his marbles? XP
Harpy's design is cool, I'll have to admit though. Her entrance as well, though I'm still pulling for "Leggy"-needs-a-name!
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@Dan:
I really don't think that's Hawkins. Hawkins is calm, cool and collected. Very monotone. This M guy is more excitable and animated. Like Buggy.
Not strange really. He created an opportunity and caught him by surprise.
2 years has gone by also they're in a former vega punk base so law could have easily have changed him with stuff there also brownbeard is on the island and hawkins defeated him during the time skip.
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@gotta<3OP:
This chapter should be named:
"I fought [the] Law and [the] Law won".And I'm happy it was not a crappy interrupted battle. Fuck Yeah.
And I'd laugh my ass off if the heart just faded as smoke and Luffy saved Law from getting impaled from behind. That would make me rofl.Nah…there's no way it can happen right now. His heart is totally encapsulated, like gas in a cylinder:it cannot escape unless you open it.
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Those thinking it's Garp, I don't think it is. I think it might be Dadan, as Garp wouldn't be included as he isn't a pirate. Still, who knows?
Still, Garp is the father of Dragon and grandfather of Luffy. The three persons listed below of Luffy in that journal are his known relatives. Is it so hard to get?
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Those thinking it's Garp, I don't think it is. I think it might be Dadan, as Garp wouldn't be included as he isn't a pirate. Still, who knows?
Another good chapter, and now I'm definitely thinking this 'Master' is some kind of Candy logia. Hell, he looked quite tree-like at times. Oh, and Monet the Harpy is pretty cool.dadan? seriously? :getlost:
many people already aware that luffy is dragon's son and garp's grandson. even the fake luffy keep saying that he is dragon's son and garp's grandson. so its just normal when they make an article about luffy they also explain about luffy's relation to some famous people like dragon and garp, that's why they add their photos in the article.its simple and obvious if you stop overthink about it. the same goes with ppl who suggest about haki in everything. even a simple reflex to dodge an enemy's attack is haki now. they do that long before haki is even introduced.
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Law seems to use trickery and deceit to also use his powers, factoring in the whole blind spot situation that let him attack Smoker and get his heart.
Guess this chapter shoots my theory to hell…
As it has been said before, Law's powers aren't....unmanageable (hate using that infernal word 'hax')...they are quite easy to evade. Luffy would be able to detect where most of Laws attacks would come from and the rest would depend on his sheer animal instinct to avoid the rest. However, I do see that if this escalates into a Luffy vs. Law, it could be easily possible for Law to beat Luffy seeing as Law seems to be a calculating guy and knows when to attack.
Their fight would be the makings of a long drug out fight, but depending on the circumstances, Law could easily beat Luffy.
