Zoro might try to leave the strawhats prediction

[Aycee]

You know guys, I've thought about this with my friends for a long time…
And one of my friends claim to talk about Zoro leaving the strawhats.
No, it's not on any volume...But I think it might happen...
I think every crew member will have a point of time that they want to disband from the strawhats but end up back there with Luffy...

Now, Zoro wants to become the greatest swordi right?
Because he wants to become the best, he trains so hard.
Maybe there will be a point of time that Zoro wants to leave Luffy coz he considers the Strawhats as delay people of his fight with Mihawk...

Or...

Zoro becomes the most powerful swordi...What happens next?
He might turn evil or something and abuse his power...

You wanna know why we disscussed this?
Coz I saw a picture with ZOro pointing his sword at the Strawhats...
And it saiz Luffy VS ZORO
and I knew it isnt Whiskey Peak...Because Robin was with the pic too...

Help me out...Coz I really like Zoro...

[joekido the Second]

Ah, spelling problems but I don't think Zoro would need to leave the crew. And a terminated crew has already passed.

[igalsfy]

honnestly, zoro not only cares about being the greatest swordman in the world but he also cares about his nakamas. and he also trusts luffy a lot. i can't see a reason for him to leave, honnestly. he even said while the ao kiji fight that if luffy was dead he wouoldn't see any reason to be a pirate anymore.

i really can't see why zoro would leave.

i think the common trust between luffy and zoro is one of the greatest things in one piece.

[*Vivi*]

Zoro would never leave, neither Luffy nor his nakama. His true bond of trust and friendship with Luffy is too deep to fade away. And it has gone through a lot of troubles and tests, but Zoro never let Luffy down and vice-versa.
Probably the pic you saw was some fanart inspired by their fight in the Whiskey Peak episode.

[Bloodfoot]

Zoro realized a long time ago that he would meet the people he needs to fight if he stays with Luffy. That's why he won't leave.

[da_pingunator]

yeh i agree with what bloodfoot said… zoro has no reason for why he wants to leave. he is currently happy in the crew and has only fought luffy once over a stupid matter at whisky peak. to me i think zoro would be the last person to leave the crew.

[Ivotas]

This current arc is about friendship problems which lead to leaving and returning to your friends (crewmates). If Zoro should ever have been considered for leaving his nakama then this arc would have been the perfect setting. It didn´t happen. And I´m sure that after this arc we won´t have a "the other side of the friendship-coin" arc again.´

I don´t see this happening. Case closed.

[VildaHawk]

Zoro said he would only join the crew if it wouldn't get in the way of him becoming the best swordsman. Of course, Luffy agreed. Luffy wants him to be the best.

[wolfwood]

could that picture your thinking about be from the 5th movie ?
in that one Zoro switches sides and goes against the strawhats thought i dont remember if zoro fought luffy or if he just beat up sanji:laugh:

ah well back on track i dont see any reason for Zoro leaving ever.

[Ivotas]

You should by now know what I consider cannon and what not.

[d3adpool]

VildaHawk, Zoro saida that when he first become in contact with Luffy. Right now i think he would be more… hum... flexible when considering what is and what's not in the way of him becoming the greatest swordsman.

[wolfwood]

ah of course i was just asking aycee if the picture he thought about wasnt just the movie poster for movie 5 where zoro points his sword at the strawhats.

[Kakaliaha]

I would think out of all of them, Zoro is probably most loyal to the strawhats but mainly to Luffy, thats why he is the first-mate. When Usopp left the stawhats Zoro was the only one that didn't question Luffy, and defended his decision later.

[mugiwara]

Zoro is definatly the least likely to ever leave the crew in my opinion. As others have mentioned, Zoro is always the one to go along with Luffy's decisions without any hesitation. The only reason I could ever see Zoro leaving would be if Luffy were to intentionally stand in the way of his dream, but I seriously doubt that ever happening.

[GUTB]

Actually, Zoro is just cold-blooded about things. He doesn't didn't get excited over the whole Ussop vs. Luffy thing for that reason.

Everyone on the crew has a dream and they are all loyal to Luffy. However, they assaign different priorities to their dreams; Robin, Nami, Chopper and Sanji appear to put their loyalty to Luffy and their Nakama beyond anything else, while Ussop and Zoro put persusing their dreams into the top priority.

For instance; Robin would rather end the world than see the Straw Hats killed. Sanji would go along with the crew anywhere they went without actively trying to find All Blue. But Ussop holds an ideal up above his loyalty to the crew, so when it came time to chose, he left. For instance, even if, say, Nami believed what Ussop did – that Luffy was abondoning a nakama to die -- she would still remain loyal to Luffy.

Now take Zoro and put him into a hypothetical position in which he's faced with turning away from persuing his dream of becoming the world's strongest swordsman in order to be loyal to the crew. Would he? He would not. He would casually leave the Straw Hats in that case.

[kintaro]

the picture is probably from the filler between davy back fight arc, and aokiji, where some guy steals their memories. Zoro and Luffy have a fight there, when zoro gets brainwashed or something like that

[Polygon]

Actually, Zoro is just cold-blooded about things. He doesn't didn't get excited over the whole Ussop vs. Luffy thing for that reason.

No, the only reason he didn't get exited is because he knew what was going to happen. If he was cold-blooded then he would have never have had met luffy.

Everyone on the crew has a dream and they are all loyal to Luffy. However, they assaign different priorities to their dreams; Robin, Nami, Chopper and Sanji appear to put their loyalty to Luffy and their Nakama beyond anything else, while Ussop and Zoro put persusing their dreams into the top priority.For instance; Robin would rather end the world than see the Straw Hats killed. Sanji would go along with the crew anywhere they went without actively trying to find All Blue. But Ussop holds an ideal up above his loyalty to the crew, so when it came time to chose, he left. For instance, even if, say, Nami believed what Ussop did – that Luffy was abondoning a nakama to die -- she would still remain loyal to Luffy.

Do they? They will delay their dream no dought, but would they give up the chance to acomplish their dreams? Remember that all of the strawhats joined luffy to acomplish their dreams. And Nami would not stay with Luffy then in my opinion. Remember ussop knew that the ship was meeting it's end, but decided not to give u[ on it.

Now take Zoro and put him into a hypothetical position in which he's faced with turning away from persuing his dream of becoming the world's strongest swordsman in order to be loyal to the crew. Would he? He would not. He would casually leave the Straw Hats in that case.

Of course Zoro would leave, hence their promise to each other.

[GUTB]

Nami's dream is to draw a map of the whole world. But if it came down to making a discsision about pursuing that dream or sticking with Luffy, she'd pick Luffy.

Ussop's dream is to become a brave warrior of the sea. And when he saw Luffy make a discision that ran contrary to that end (abondonment of the Merry), he was immediately splitsville. Denying Merry would be the same as denying his ideal, so he ditched the crew and threw down with Luffy.

Zoro's dream is to become the strongest swordsman in the world. he carries his dead childhood friend's sword. Let's say Luffy ordered him to lose a fight while holding that sword – would he? I really don't think so. He'd ditch the crew and throw down with Luffy like Ussop did.

[darth_mark]

it's definitely possible that zoro would leave. thought at the moment it's highly unlikely, in his quest to become the strongest swordsman he has to fight stronger and stronger opponents to train himself, and where would he get the chance to do that? by staying with luffy of course.

[Creeper]

@joekido:

Ah, spelling problems but I don't think Zoro would need to leave the crew. And a terminated crew has already passed.

Please don't make an embarassment of yourself. You are really… in no position to say that until you start correcting your posts.

[Malgwath]

Ussops dream had nothing to do with him leaving the Strawhats. He could become a brave warrior without the ship. The reason he left Luffy is because he saw Merry as a person rather than a ship, and therefore couldn´t accept leaving it behind.

And he actually already lost a fight at Luffy's orders. Remember when Bellamy kicked his and Luffy's asses at Jaya? That was definitely at Luffy's order, Zoro would never have lost that fight otherwise.

[GUTB]

In that case, both of them were on the same page. It wasn't a fight either of them wanted to participate in.

[Kakaliaha]

Other people have already left the Strawhats due to certain loyalties: Nami, was trying to save her town from Arlong; Robin, believed that she had to leave to save the Strawhats; Usopp, left due to his loyalty to Going Merry. That leaves: Zoro, he was the first crew-mate chosen and chosen as first-mate, if he ever leaves the Strawhats he will be stranded on an island and never get any stronger (which is part of his dream) due to his horrible sense of direction; Sanji, is an orphan who only has ties to Redleg, and was told by Redleg to join the Strawhats; Chopper, has no one else besides the old witch (forgot her name) and the Strawhats, no where down the line is Chopper going to say, "Hey I found this group of reindeer, and I feel more comfortable around them, so see yah." he feels way to connect to the Strawhats, its the first time he has had a group of friends that have not treated him like a monster, he is also very dependent on the Strawhats he is like a little kid.

[Polygon]

Nami's dream is to draw a map of the whole world. But if it came down to making a discsision about pursuing that dream or sticking with Luffy, she'd pick Luffy.

Would she?

Ussop's dream is to become a brave warrior of the sea. And when he saw Luffy make a discision that ran contrary to that end (abondonment of the Merry), he was immediately splitsville. Denying Merry would be the same as denying his ideal, so he ditched the crew and threw down with Luffy

.

That had nothing to do with his dream.

Zoro's dream is to become the strongest swordsman in the world. he carries his dead childhood friend's sword. Let's say Luffy ordered him to lose a fight while holding that sword – would he? I really don't think so. He'd ditch the crew and throw down with Luffy like Ussop did.

OF COURSE HE WOULD. Did you even read my last post.

[wolfwood]

well a truly brave warrior of the sea wouldnt leave his wounded comrades behind so i think this merry situation has a little to do with his ideals and dreams.

[Irresistiblement]

I think that Zoro's bond with Luffy was really tested in the Jaya arc, when Luffy took control of the situation with Bellamy by saying "Zoro, don't fight back". Did Zoro act on his own impulses while getting the snot beaten out of him, or did he follow his captain's orders? The answer, of course, is the latter. This is just one instance of Zoro showing his utter dedication to Luffy and his cause, and also shows his trust in his captain.

So no, I don't believe that Zoro would ever think of leaving. Plus, I think that after the whole Water-7/Enies Lobby arc, the plot twists of crew members leaving would lose its impact and just become a worn-down theme.

[DarkShinobi]

Say for instance, that being with the Strawhats got in the way of Zoro becoming the world's greatest swordsman, I really wouldn't know what he'd do in a situation like that. It all depends on what's greater, his loyalty and friendship towards Luffy or his burning drive to be the greatest. We all know how great and deep his ambition to be the greatest swordsman is, but we've also seen true loyalty towards Luffy in the Jaya arc.

I think it'd be kind of intersting if Oda did put Zoro in that predicament, just to see what he'd choose, but like Irresistablement said, crew members leaving would get old after Water 7.

[wintergt]

@DarkShinobi:

Say for instance, that being with the Strawhats got in the way of Zoro becoming the world's greatest swordsman, I really wouldn't know what he'd do in a situation like that.

Since it was part of the whole deal when they started that Zoro would only stick around for as long as it went along with his goals too, I think it's safe to say that if he had to chose, he'd leave Luffy and go for his dream.

[GUTB]

Yeah but Robin taking off didn't represent anything like the impact felt when Ussop left. Because 1. Robin nver really fit in and 2, she's only been with the crew for 1 arc.

Ussop's been there from since Day 1. Basically, I consider the "True Straw Hats" to be those who joined up in East Blue – Zoro, Ussop, Sanji, and Nami. Chopper and Robin are kind of like hanger-ons.

[DarkShinobi]

@GUTB:

Ussop's been there from since Day 1. Basically, I consider the "True Straw Hats" to be those who joined up in East Blue – Zoro, Ussop, Sanji, and Nami. Chopper and Robin are kind of like hanger-ons.

I wouldn't call Chopper a hanger-on. He really seems to be part a true part of the crew. Robin doesn't, at least not yet because of her past and the current arc. And I wouldn't call the ones who joined up in East Blue, the "True Straw Hats" since Chopper and Robin (well, she will be) are true members. The Original Straw Hats makes more sense.

[fubukii]

i think zoro and luffy have way to tight of a bond for zoro to just leave

[Kiden4911]

theres a quote from zoro after the davy back fight…"I thought about it. If i left this ship I'd have no point in being a pirate anymore"
i know that he doesnt mention being a swordsman there but i think this quote shows how committed he is to the strawhats. he never had to be a pirate in the first place but he does it to be in the crew
im not sayin theres no chance hell leave but i cant think of a situation he'll want to leave. besides his whole point to being a swordsman would be to spread his fame and being a pirate would help him do that. i just dont see how being a pirate would get in the way of his goals. the best way for him to achieve his goals would be to encounter strong people and right now the path that luffy is on is sure to meet the strongest in the world

[Oro Jackson]

Zoro will not leave leave the Straw Hat Pirates and neither will anyone else after they get Robin back as they come to the understanding that their dreams will be realized by staying together and sailing the great seas as they always have.

[ShinjiG]

Another thing to note, is that Zoro is a man of his word. He really was going to go without eatting for a month to pay his debt to Helmoppo (SP?) for killing his pet wolf. And Zoro said that he'd be Luffy's swordsman, so thats all there is too it.

[Ranier]

Zoro leaving? It's possible. There's no iron rule that says he's gonna be Luffy's man forever.

(O, my dear lord. The way I say it sounds like a bad slash… go me!)

The thing is, the current Zoro is not the same as the Zoro from vol. 1 way, way back. The initial Zoro thinks nothing but fulfilling his promise and achieving his dream. He was a very independent man. The current Zoro has another goal. I sense that he is developing in a way that all others are developing when they have spent enough amount of time with Luffy.

Instead of focusing all his or her energy on the strife to achieve one dream, I think each of the Mugiwara pirates is now struggling to fulfill everybody's dream. Yes, that would be six dreams and one destiny to fulfill. Somehow along the way, I'd like to think, it has become Zoro's another goal. At least, I think he's gonna make sure that Luffy becomes the Pirate King.

He'll leave if it's necessary, but he'll be back, y'know? He belongs to that crew. Sense of direction or not, he will find his way back to them.

@GUTB: You remind me of someone. Tsk, nevermind. IMO, Robin's leaving the crew is a plot device Oda-sensei had used before at Nami's arc. I term it 'leave to belong' plot device. It's very effective. Earlier, mistrusts, doubts, and frustration mix together. Then the angsty, tragic past is revealed. Voila! Sympathy is generated, the Mugiwara kick many arses, the villains are defeated, and everybody is happy. The end.

My two cents =)

[Korought]

I think that when someone gets a chapter where a number is assigned to them upon joining the crew, they will not leave.

[Bounty1Berry]

Perhaps I'm tired, but isn't that what the Baroque Works do? :D

I don't know if Zoro is really as bound by his inability to navigate as someone a few posts up implied.

He could sign on with another crew who offered him a better way to Mihawk, or hold back if he was headed into a fight he knew was a loss. I could even see him becoming a Shickabukhai somehow. It doesn't interfere with his dreams, and he could rationalise it by being the 'inside guy'

[Korought]

You're either tired, drunk, or simply have no clue as to what I was pertaining to (hint: it's most likely this one). There have been three instances where a crew member had a chapter named "The X Member" where x equals what number they were upon joining.

[wolfwood]

i dont see why being a shichibukai would bother zoro i mean hes not that particulary proud of being a pirate anyhow,

thought i dont see it happening.

[GUTB]

If the Straw Hats weren't an option anymore, I could kind of see Zoro just kind of casually getting into something major like becoming a Shichibukai. That would, afterall, get him closer to Mihawk.

[loulou]

You guys are making some interesting arguments, but:

Zoro is "the first person/member" is he not? He won't leave.

[sabret00the]

Zoro wouldn't need to leave, just like Ace, he could take a leave of action in pursuit of whatever come back and it'd be like he'd been gone an hour. i doubt he'd leave even if it was a choice between Mihawk fight and saving going with one of Luffy's whim's, he'd go with Luffy.

[Bounty1Berry]

@Korought:

You're either tired, drunk, or simply have no clue as to what I was pertaining to (hint: it's most likely this one). There have been three instances where a crew member had a chapter named "The X Member" where x equals what number they were upon joining.

Ah. I understand now. I didn't recall those titles.

I do still think Zoro could jump ship, if he felt it necessary to delay the battle with Mihawk.

[minnatrix]

@Creeper:

Please don't make an embarassment of yourself. You are really… in no position to say that until you start correcting your posts.

Hmm, I wonder who deleted Joekido's post,