@Urouge:
A lot of us have been holding back from this thread because we were curious what you guys would come up with on your own, and I'm actually fairly impressed that there isn't more dumb.
I thought one of the older admins would have made this comment tbh. Oh boy did you miss the horror of pre 2008 posters….shudders
The thing is we have weeded out the majority of fungus here quite well over the past few years leaving a decent proportion of good/down to earth people. Its probably the manga section that has left you a little scarred. Tis a place of evil nowadays.
But in the end, a lot of this stuff simply isn't up for debate, such as bannings.
But what about some one the infractions themselves? it seems the current trend is all points tend to have no expiry date regardless of how minor they were. Realistically a year should be the limit, unless of course its horrendous which usually just goes straight to ban. Plus you have to keep in mind most people come back with a clean slate anyway so there isn't as much of an incentive to be good again. Think of it like your driving license…..if you've been bad and you are on your last warning you will make an extra effort to behave in the hope you can get those expiration dates off and start fresh, or at least learn a lesson and not want to go through the tedious task of treading on eggshells so much.
No, we don't want to get a rundown of a person's popularity every time we're on the edge of banning someone.
Well that's just the gossip side of it which i don't think is relevant to the thread, merely if the action taken was justifiable, or possibly based on a war between two people which should be dealt with through talks and not a simple hammer. Most issues we have had between people can be solved this way but never gets the chance as pm isn't the best course of action. Having a jury in the background will encourage ego's to go and negotiations and understanding to take place.
What a horrifying thought. Also many of us post a decent amount.
I'd say half, and that is only due to the new staff members that are amongst the ranks. Truth is most of the old standing admins/mods have got work and family and don't have time to sift through the extreme volume of text. Hence why we have had several admins leave in the past.
If someone sits in a remote corner of the forum where they never see us, well, that's too bad.
Staff shouldn't confine themselves to one spot either though. its something that definitely needs to be improved upon. Its just a little sad to feel so out of touch with many of the old members that were once like me but have made positions here and stopped taking an interest or revealing just how human they are.
It'd be hypocritical of them to complain about us not posting there when they aren't exactly well traveled, themselves.
True enough but most of us visit all sections of the forum. Some just don't post in the sections as they feel either out of their depth or have nothing new to add to the table. I'm like that in the gaming section….frequent it a lot but rarely get a chance to add something or beat people to news and updates.
If someone has something they want to say, there are ways to say it. PM's, visitor messages, posts, or even making a thread in this subforum. If the person is too shy for that, well, I don't see how that's anyone's problem but their own.
So if i had an issue with you i couldn't resolve how would we resolve that. Putting on your wall isn't really the route as its more a social feature, a thread might inflame the situation, and a pm wouldn't be open to let people see if a fair course of action is taken.
In the end, I really don't get the point of this thread. It's been up for 2 days and nothing has come of it but debate about whether this thread should even exist or not.
The landslide poll outcome should give away that a good deal of people feel its necessary.
I think your just worried about a grand conflict spawning when the posts here so far should prove the majority of us are mature enough to discuss the important issues that arise on a daily basis.
@RobbyBevard:
1. The staff communicates regularly with each other. So big or controversial decisions are discussed beforehand usually between several people.
If they are so big why not share your joint feelings with the forum then as more often than not those decisions can be misunderstood by a great deal of people.
2. I'm sorry if after 4 years and 12941 posts in every section of this board, you feel you don't know me that well.
Funnily enough we don't. Its usually banter with no exposure into anything outside the forum. I'd love to see you on irc or something every now and then for a chat and get to know you a little more as more often then not as you know we've clashed over misunderstandings or trivial stuff in the na…n..naru coughs out blood the glossy black thing. lol It got ridiculous for a while and only really found a common ground through pm's which works but is hard to fully elaborate of explain what you mean without misunderstanding and paranoia setting in.
3.The Naruto thread isn't going back to what it once was, for a number of reasons. Just isn't happening.
And nobody minds it as you've given your reasons why. You'd be amazed at how much we mere members feel in the dark about this kinda stuff due to the staff not thinking it warranted/needed to be put in black and white.
I don't want to mention names of a few staff i originally had issues with over the years, but after speaking to them through pm, fb, ap and irc I've sussed out the personalities a bit better and recognised original fears i had were untrue. Me for example, i'm often mistaken for stuff when i only mean it as banter or just dry humour, though I think or hope people would agree i've made significant changes thanks to feedback and conversations i've had with people in the places i mentioned above.
 
