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You about this site and how its slowly but surely decaying. And how no criticism is accepted because it seems to come solely from "Troll Sites" such as SA or ED? I would like to know your personal opinion on this.
Tv Tropes
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I really don't have a problem with Tv Tropes. I've never went on the forums or any of the discussion pages.
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Same here buddy. I did post on the forums,but I didnt find anything wrong or weird…
But some recent revelations make me uneasy.
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I love TV Tropes. I go there by default when I'm bored and get lost in it for hours.
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I cant really say in polite company….
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And what exactly would these "recent revelations" be?
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I love TV Tropes. I go there by default when I'm bored and get lost in it for hours.
Same thing happens to me. I always see some interesting link and my curiosity always gets the best of me.
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I cant really say in polite company….
We're not polite. Hey asshole…see.
Why make a thread if you won't explain
@Flux:I find it interesting to browse but I really don't get this whole 'you'll be trapped their and waste hours of your life' joke.
Because once you start reading you end up just going page to page, until your tab bar is full of TV Trope pages. There is just so much entertaining things to read.
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I find it interesting to browse but I think the whole 'you'll be trapped their and waste hours of your life' joke is stupid.
I'm more a fan of Uncyclopedia.
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If a site manages to keep your attention for hours every time you go to it, then by default it must be doing something right.
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Ok I get the joke, I more meant I've never remotely felt like that around TV Tropes.
Also the poll is sorts biased, I can feel a Titanic Thread a comin'.
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I hate TVTropes, and I curse everyone who randomly links me to it.
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Sigh.
TV Tropes may seem innocent, tolerant and progressive….. Until you take one closer look.
It his a hive of Racism,Homophobia,Xenophobia, Trans-phobia,Pedophilia you name it and it turns a blind eye to soulcrushingly creepy stuff it goes on there calling people who rightfully call them out on this shit intolerant.
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Are you sure about that? I've never went into any of the forums, so I wouldn't know of this.
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…make it sound like 4chan.
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Well, to be fair, the kind of stuff I mentioned is found in Troper Tales and the forums but its slowly but surely creeping into the Main site.
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Crowning Moment of Heartwarming:
- Issue 3: "Welcome back, Makoto." As squicky as incest can be for most people, that line is arguably the sweetest thing ever said by a mother having sex with her own child.
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Well, to be fair, the kind of stuff I mentioned is found in Troper Tales and the forums but its slow but surely creeping into the Main site.
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Crowning Moment of Heartwarming:
- Issue 3: "Welcome back, Makoto." As squicky as incest can be for most people, that line is arguably the sweetest thing ever said by a mother having sex with her own child.
Yeah, that is very creepy.:blink:
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Im not a hater. I seriously love Tv Tropes, I really do. That's why I think we should try to cut the creepy out of it.
Oh and by the way "Makoto" is fucking ten years old.
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One man and his quest to bring down TV Tropes.
They told him it couldn't be done.
He didn't listen.
Cinemas January 012.
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Well, that one little thing doesn't really change my overall opinion of Tv Tropes.
It's creepy, but it's not something that would ruin the whole site for me.
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There's a reason the main articles don't allow personal opinions. It's your own fault for looking at the other stuff.
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And what's a Titanic thread.
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One man and his quest to bring down TV Tropes.
They told him it couldn't be done.
He didn't listen.
Cinemas January 012.
Thank god you avoided using stock phrases.
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Ok, ok. I wanted to see your take on it, guys.
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Well, to be fair, the kind of stuff I mentioned is found in Troper Tales and the forums but its slowly but surely creeping into the Main site.
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Crowning Moment of Heartwarming:
- Issue 3: "Welcome back, Makoto." As squicky as incest can be for most people, that line is arguably the sweetest thing ever said by a mother having sex with her own child.
…Well you act like it's weird.
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….I act like its weird.
I act like the fact that someone just flat out found _pedophilic incestous postcoital cuddling heartwarming_ is goddamn weird.
I do get that Tv Tropes isnt as bad as I make it out to be but that right there does not help your case at all.
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I hate that place with a passion. It literally ruined my life. Or opened a door for something better. And is currently making my internet very slow… Nonetheless I hate it. But honestly, I don't see that much of a difference. Only at the Tropes Tales pages, that is in design and stuff. Come on now, the internet IS a weird place, and what you might find weird might just rock someones boat and it's always been like that on TvTropes. Or am I just completely missing the point? :P
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I love TV Tropes.
I love writing something and then reading TV Tropes and realizing that everything I just did has been done before.
It's a good lesson in humility.
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I hate that place with a passion. It literally ruined my life. Or opened a door for something better. And is currently making my internet very slow… Nonetheless I hate it. But honestly, I don't see that much of a difference. Only at the Tropes Tales pages, that is in design and stuff. Come on now, the internet IS a weird place, and what you might find weird might just rock someones boat and it's always been like that on TvTropes. Or am I just completely missing the point? :P
Yes. But at least "weird" sites have warnings and disclaimers that what you may find is not exactly family friendly.
Tv Tropes, on the other hand, presents itself as academic,decent and while not family friendly, safe for work. And it is true to some degree but stuff like the above, the forums, the Troper Tales do make me wonder.I know, you are going to go "You do know there are good Troper Tales?" and "Well its your own damn fault if you look at those!" is that the first are drowned by the horrible ones and the second is that these just shouldnt be tolerated. It drags the sites reputation down needlessly and the moderators refused to do shit about those. (Ok to be fair they are kind of revamping the tales and allow the sane tropers to holler the insane entries and also removing the annonimity).
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Yes. But at least "weird" sites have warnings and disclaimers that what you may find is not exactly family friendly.
Tv Tropes, on the other hand, presents itself as academic,decent and while not family friendly, safe for work. And it is true to some degree but stuff like the above, the forums, the Troper Tales do make me wonder.I know, you are going to go "You do know there are good Troper Tales?" and "Well its your own damn fault if you look at those!" is that the first are drowned by the horrible ones and the second is that these just shouldnt be tolerated. It drags the sites reputation down needlessly and the moderators refused to do shit about those. (Ok to be fair they are kind of revamping the tales and allow the sane tropers to holler the insane entries and also removing the annonimity).
Alright so it sounds more like you're pissed that you weren't warned properly when going onto the Troper Tales pages. I don't get why you create a thread to complain about this.
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I dont make a thread to complain about that.I made a thread to see your opinion on the subject.
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Yes. But at least "weird" sites have warnings and disclaimers that what you may find is not exactly family friendly.
Tv Tropes, on the other hand, presents itself as academic,decent and while not family friendly, safe for work. And it is true to some degree but stuff like the above, the forums, the Troper Tales do make me wonder.I know, you are going to go "You do know there are good Troper Tales?" and "Well its your own damn fault if you look at those!" is that the first are drowned by the horrible ones and the second is that these just shouldnt be tolerated. It drags the sites reputation down needlessly and the moderators refused to do shit about those. (Ok to be fair they are kind of revamping the tales and allow the sane tropers to holler the insane entries and also removing the annonimity).
It sounds to me like you're overreacting a bit.
So you read something on Tv Tropes that you didn't want to know…it's not like it killed the whole site for you.
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TV tropes is fun for what it is… though it is a bit annoying when people attribute storytelling devices that have existed for thousands of years to a series that started last week, or the degree to which they break some things down. Its cool to have nicknames for conceits that are a little difficult to explain, but don't act like the five man band originated with
Thundercats Gargoyles Sailor Moon Original ThundercatsVoltron.Also, "Wolverine protects his nakama" makes my brain hurt.
I find it interesting to browse but I think the whole 'you'll be trapped their and waste hours of your life' joke is stupid.
But its not a joke. It's a warning.
Because it's true.
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I think xckd (or however you spell it) is completely right. Going to TV Tropes is like getting rick rolled all day.
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I generally like cruising around there to get infos about some media stuff (they tend to have nice summaries)
or to get descriptions about story devices (it's fun to see how two series deliver the same device so differently).
It's all cool as long as I don't hang around for too long.The very strange habit of everyone saying" This troper here thinks" instead of "I think" still weirds me the fuck out especially when they keep it up to almost ridiculous levels through a whole page long post.
But I can tolerate it by now.It gets problematic when you dive to deep into it and discover what lurks in the darkest chasms of this page.
When starting with one topic or a series I sometimes end up in pretty weird sections or even disturbing pages with a deadpan tone to them. And when it comes to "troper tales" I have learned to just stay the hell away from them all together .
Other than that I guess it's okay, even fun. I just don't wanna get close to some of the guys there.[hide]
That's what I call getting too deep into this shit.
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Seeing fetish fuel pages makes me feel unclean on a number of levels.
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I find it kinda funny how TV tropes had to dedicate an entire page on Negima's fetish fuel.
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I think by far the most annoying thing I read there is CMOA. Not EVERYTHING that just happened qualifies as a CMOA.
"At the end of the latest Naruto chapter, Sasuke used the sharingan. This troper came so many times."
- Agreed. Best moment BY FAR.
- This troper's showed it to his friends and it basically turned into the biggest fangasm imaginable.
- I think we can agree that this entire war has been the biggest fangasm imaginable."
Which is why I don't read those articles for ongoing series anymore.
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Ok there is also THAT decay.
And you guys were right. If I wanted to convince anyone of anything I shouldnt have been so immaflamatory. Not that I wanted to, I just wanted to hear your opinion.
Oh and Panty Shots are not fetish fuel. They are an objective trope. In the main page. Which wouldnt be so bad if the perverts didnt go as deep into detail as they do.
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I think by far the most annoying thing I read there is CMOA. Not EVERYTHING that just happened qualifies as a CMOA.
"At the end of the latest Naruto chapter, Sasuke used the sharingan. This troper came so many times."
- Agreed. Best moment BY FAR.
- This troper's showed it to his friends and it basically turned into the biggest fangasm imaginable.
- I think we can agree that this entire war has been the biggest fangasm imaginable."
Which is why I don't read those articles for ongoing series anymore.
Oh yeah God. I remember when I read the One Piece CMOA page. Literally every cool scene was one. Then how are they crowning moments?
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When you strip a story down as much as they do, they take away its soul as well. A product isn't good or bad because of all the little components. It's how they fit together that makes a story work or fail. For this reason, I tend to stay away from Tv Tropes as much as I can.
Then again, it does have its merits, sometimes pointing out details that most people wouldn't identify, or being a decent resource if you want to know more about something specific. In other words, Tv Tropes has its ups and downs, it all depends on how you spend your time there, honestly.
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Oh and look at this piece of beauty here:
This troper's best friend. She absolutely hates it, only tolerates it with her boyfriend. Couple her with me, the overly cuddly bisexual friend, and things get pretty interesting at my lunch table. It's understandable though, because she has been raped and so instantly starts getting freaked out when someone hugs her from behind.
Which, despite the appalling empathy failure and invasion of personal space, is quite tame.
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Ok they do flip-flop between "academic analysis" and "This is just a fans for fans thing, chill man!"
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Yonkou255… was TVtropes... personally cruel to you in some way in the past?
You seem to have a massive hatred for it.
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Yonkou255 was only at the ripe, young age of 12.
He was new to the internet. All full of giddy and joy, thinking about the many wonders the world wide web would have in store for him.
Until, by accident, he came upon the mysterious Tv Tropes. Out of prepubescent curiosity, he entered the site, and before him was a vast multitude of tropes, ranging from various genres and media.
Fascinated, he journeyed deeper and deeper into the many pages and indexes, overflowing with information.
Then he came upon "Troper Tales". Since he was always amused by tales and fables, he whimsically clicked the link.
And before his eyes, was a horde of tales, each related to a certain trope. There was so many to choose from. He didn't know where to begin.
At last, he clicked on one titled "Fetish Fuel". As he began to read one tale after another, the look of joy on his face slowly dissipated and was replaced with only a look of repulsion.
He tried to look away, but his eyes rebelled against him and continued to read on. Tears began to flow down his cheeks, he was unable to mutter a single word.
And when he had reached the bottom of the page, he fell to the ground, broken, destroyed.
What he saw that day, on that webpage, forever changed him.
His innocence was stolen from him. By reading those words on that page, his soul became dirtied, blackened and corrupt.
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I think TV Tropes works best for gauging a given series' fanbase and culture more than anything else. You can read entire pages and not learn anything useful about a series, but you always see the results of ongoing conversations between fans.
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Huh, they actually seemed to replace Nakama on the site. I thought that was always a sacred word to some groups.
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When I first discovered TV Tropes I really enjoyed it. But after a while it just seemed like every god damn miniscule action could be be a trope, dude scratches his ass? There's a trope for that! Then when I took the plunge into the troper tales…I got the hell out of dodge ASAP.
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I hate it for creating annoying people who use made up terminology in actual conversations and attribute ancient cliches and writing techniques to Power Rangers.
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Since I write stories, I find the discussion and analysis of various tropes interesting. For fun, I just browse pages dedicated to the series' I like. It's pretty obvious to me now that there are a lot of sucky things about it, but they have mostly not affected my enjoyment of the site. Like many popular sites, it's infected. I'm a member on DeviantArt for God's sake, but I'm still okay with using it because I don't involve myself with all the drama that goes on there, and I stay A MILLION miles away from the vomit-inducing or just disturbing art. It's kinda the same with Tropes. Finding enjoyment in the internet and avoiding the venom that fucked-up people constantly inject into it is practically a daily exercise for all of us. It's a shame that TV Tropes has gone this way, but I'm not going to stop enjoying the genuinely good things it offers just because of that.
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Yonkou255 was only at the ripe, young age of 12.
He was new to the internet. All full of giddy and joy, thinking about the many wonders the world wide web would have in store for him.
Until, by accident, he came upon the mysterious Tv Tropes. Out of prepubescent curiosity, he entered the site, and before him was a vast multitude of tropes, ranging from various genres and media.
Fascinated, he journeyed deeper and deeper into the many pages and indexes, overflowing with information.
Then he came upon "Troper Tales". Since he was always amused by tales and fables, he whimsically clicked the link.
And before his eyes, was a horde of tales, each related to a certain trope. There was so many to choose from. He didn't know where to begin.
At last, he clicked on one titled "Fetish Fuel". As he began to read one tale after another, the look of joy on his face slowly dissipated and was replaced with only a look of repulsion.
He tried to look away, but his eyes rebelled against him and continued to read on. Tears began to flow down his cheeks, he was unable to mutter a single word.
And when he had reached the bottom of the page, he fell to the ground, broken, destroyed.
What he saw that day, on that webpage, forever changed him.
His innocence was stolen from him. By reading those words on that page, his soul became dirtied, blackened and corrupt.
And as he closed the browser window, the last of his purity vanished. Never to return….Ok, I admit this is mostly true.
I found out about it when I was 16 years old, and I really havent found anything weird in the main pages till last week,and I adored it with all my heart. And why is it that it seems that I hate Tv Tropes instead of just the really creepy stuff it could do without?
Robby, I thought you as a moderator knew this already, if someone posted stuff like "I dont like black people because their heads are too spherical and monkeylike" "Pedophilia and Child Molestation should be legal!" or "Burn the Middle East" you would ban the shit out of that fucker. You wouldnt just go "Oh Im all about tolerance and freedom of Speech!" and tolerate them.
