10 bucks Hordy framed the murder with a human, but it was all his doing. :ninja:
Looks like a great fight coming LOL luffy sleeping through it all, same thing happened in Arlong Park, he had no idea what happened but still kicked his ass.
10 bucks Hordy framed the murder with a human, but it was all his doing. :ninja:
Looks like a great fight coming LOL luffy sleeping through it all, same thing happened in Arlong Park, he had no idea what happened but still kicked his ass.
Interesting to see the time period in which Jinbei received his scar narrowed down. Unless it's just one of Oda's mistakes.
If you're referring to the first non-cover page, it could either be a vein popping out from anger or a mistake. I seriously doubt it's a scar since he didn't have one minutes earlier in the previous chapter, nor later on in the chapter before the flashback ended.
10 bucks Hordy framed the murder with a human, but it was all his doing. :ninja:
Looks like a great fight coming LOL luffy sleeping through it all, same thing happened in Arlong Park, he had no idea what happened but still kicked his ass.
I still think that the human didn't do it, but that hody belives that he did, he saw an human with a flaming riffle and just went with it.
Also, from where comes the "R" of Hordy?
You guys are getting carried away with this scar thing. Jinbei was a soldier/ pirate/ shichibukai, he's bound to have a few bruises and scratches. To make long posts complaining/ whining why Oda didn't address it is asinine. Moria had huge stitchings on his chest and it was never addressed, so why does this have to be addressed?! The thing I was expecting people to be raving about was who is connected to the shooter, not how Jinbei got a scar.
cnet's translation is already up in case anyone is interested
That is great! Thanks!
And there is also this new group MangaZone making super early scanlations of One Piece (and other popular mangas), and they even have a decent translation (at least they didn't make it sound like the king is ordering the children to go capture Vander Decken, and didn't make it look like Nami made only ONE new friend during the fight against Arlong)…
Edit: Hmmm, there was some complete failures in their translation too, the translator totally failed in recognizing the names of Fisher Tiger and Otohime in one bubble...
You guys are getting carried away with this scar thing. Jinbei was a soldier/ pirate/ shichibukai, he's bound to have a few bruises and scratches. To make long posts complaining/ whining why Oda didn't address it is asinine. Moria had huge stitchings on his chest and it was never addressed, so why does this have to be addressed?! The thing I was expecting people to be raving about was who is connected to the shooter, not how Jinbei got a scar.
Are you trolling? Because if you bother to read the posts you're referring to, the answers to your questions are all there. And you'll also discover that nobody is actually whining or complaining about it, just questioning.
As for any scars Moriah may have received, it's pretty heavily implied that they would have come from his fight with Kaido in which he lost everything, so there isn't much to question about it.
Are you trolling? Because if you bother to read the posts you're referring to, the answers to your questions are all there. And you'll also discover that nobody is actually whining or complaining about it, just questioning.
As for any scars Moriah may have received, it's pretty heavily implied that they would have come from his fight with Kaido in which he lost everything.
It's addressing those who are going "ZOMG, his scar is unexplained."
And who would that be?
ZOMG, his scar is unexplained!!!1111oneoneone
It's more of just a disappointment of "geewiz, I wish we could see how he got that scar, that woulda been cool"
Now, you're the one who's trolling?! A quick look through-out the previous pages will answer your question. To heavily question something so insufficient to the current story does not need to be reverberated each page.
ZOMG, his scar is unexplained!!!1111oneoneone
It's more of just a disappointment of "geewiz, I wish we could see how he got that scar, that woulda been cool"
Yes, I'll give you that, but come on, aren't there gonna be characters that just have scars? Ah, whatever…
Well I think both Hodi and Hordy would be written the same way in Japanese but I don't know why they decided to switch at the end of the flashback .
Now, you're the one who's trolling?! A quick look through-out the previous pages will answer your question. To heavily question something so insufficient to the current story does not need to be reverberated each page.
No, I was talking about it as much as anyone, and if you bothered to look you'd know that. So I try challenging you about it and you basically have no idea what's going on.
To imply I have no idea is dumb, when I clearly addressed it and you got your panties in a bunch. Just because you feel it's sufficient and others feel it isn't worthy of being addressed does not mean I need to jump on-board with the whole scar situation. Different strokes for different folks. But whatever, I need not to argue.
Oyyyyyye seriously? Everything in your first post other than the thing about Moriah had already been answered in those posts you were complaining about, and you didn't even seem to realize I was involved, which is why I said you had no idea. But I already said this. You don't need me to answer it all again, do you?
Sigh.
Not looking to get involved with ScarGate, but we've got a whole wealth of Jinbe-as-Shichibukai stories yet untold that may still appear. Considering that at least three of the other Shichibukai have been involved in skirmishes with Yonkou, wouldn't be shocked to have it explained in a fight with a big power.
And if not, I'll live. Somehow.
Oyyyyyye seriously? Everything in your first post other than the thing about Moriah had already been answered in those posts you were complaining about, and you didn't even seem to realize I was involved, which is why I said you had no idea. But I already said this. You don't need me to answer it all again, do you?
Sigh.
Nowhere did I imply I didn't know you were involved, I posted it to whoever. I didn't name names. Just give it up. Please step off your high horse.
Lol, I'm done. Our discussion is taking away from the thread.
No One Piece next week? That sucks
But still a great flashback. So much more interesting that this dman Ace/Luffy/Sabo story that seems to go on forever in anie. I mean jesus it was fun in the begining but now they stretched it to insanely stupid lenghts
Anyway I liked that Arlong would never hurt a fellow fishman. It's good to see that evne he wasn't some completley one dimensional villain. I wonder if he will come back. I can't wait to see what Hordy's plan actually are. I am guessing he will chop down the Sun Tree to force all fishmen to go the surface
Could Hodi be planning on attacking and killing all the human leaders in the reverie?
I still have a truckload of issues with this flashback, issues that I'm willing to write off until I revisit this arc in the future when it's done and whole. (mostly I think it suffered from being unable to live up to my MASSSIVE expectations and assumptions)
But it did suddenly at the end make me actually much more interested in Hodi as a character, so there's a pretty notable success for it.
Finally this flashback is over. God, what a snooze fest. So much random jumping around and unnecessary crap. Makes me root for Hodi more now so he can go and kill all these lame ass fishmen.
Finally this flashback is over. God, what a snooze fest. So much random jumping around and unnecessary crap. Makes me root for Hodi more now so he can go and kill all these lame ass fishmen.
I didn't like this flashback and even I think this post is complete shit.
Never post again.
Finally this flashback is over. God, what a snooze fest. So much random jumping around and unnecessary crap. Makes me root for Hodi more now so he can go and kill all these lame ass fishmen.
LOL @unnecessary crap. No need to refute this, its just plain too stupid.
I love how Oda pretty much mocked all those complaining about the length of the flashback (with sleeping Luffy)
I believe he was even talking through Jimbe when he said "Sorry for taking your time up with that" loool
I love how Oda practically knows that a lot of his fanbase were probably eager to return and sacrifices those "fans" for the sake of a quality story. Yeah Oda!
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No One Piece next week? That sucks
But still a great flashback. So much more interesting that this dman Ace/Luffy/Sabo story that seems to go on forever in anie. I mean jesus it was fun in the begining but now they stretched it to insanely stupid lenghts
Anyway I liked that Arlong would never hurt a fellow fishman. It's good to see that evne he wasn't some completley one dimensional villain. I wonder if he will come back. I can't wait to see what Hordy's plan actually are. I am guessing he will chop down the Sun Tree to force all fishmen to go the surface
The ASL flashbacks been 8 episodes…. It was insanely rushed in the manga. Who the hell cares if the anime takes its time making their bonds closer. Its not like we're eager to know what happens next, thats what the manga is for.
I think one of the main problems with this flashback was that it lacked focus. Or, rather, a focal character. With all the other flashbacks we had a character whom the events of the flashback revolved around and whom we could sympathize with. With Nami we sympathized with her losing her mother, Chopper losing Dr. Hiriluk, Franky feeling responsible for Tom's death, etc. So was there a focal character for this flashback?
And before I continue, I'd like to point out that another problem this flashback had was that it was really more a telling of two different events that didn't have a lot to do with eachother, or at least weren't interconnected.
So as for the focal character, who was it? Shirahoshi? No, not really. She didn't really have any role in Tiger's part of the backstory, and even in Otohime's half she wasn't really focused on and was just a spectator to what was going on. Was it Otohime? Hmm, now that would be an interesting angle; have the focal character be the character who gets killed off. And if it wasn't for Tiger's half of the story I might actually consider this a real possibility, but no, Otohime didn't really have much of a stake in Tiger's death. So now you may be thinking, "Oh, well it's probably Jinbei since he was present for both tragedies in the flashback." Well….not really. I guess you could make a case for Tiger's half since he had a fairly major role there, but even then he was more of a spectator and didn't have any close personal relationship with Tiger (no more or less than anyone else, anyway). And as for Otohime, he had even less screentime and, again, no deep personal relationship.
So I guess the answer is no, there wasn't a focal character, and unfortunately, yes, that does hurt it. Yes these are a series of tragic events, but who exactly are they happening to? Who is effected by it? Well, yes, obviously if effects the countless citizens of FI and several secondary characters, but where's the intimacy? This flashback is sort of like watching a sad story on the six o' clock news, say, several people being killed when a bridge collapses. Yes it's tragic and you certainly feel sorry for those involved, but it really doesn't effect you personally (and I apologize, yes, this may be a poor or, perhaps, even tasteless comparison, but you get my point).
But yeah, maybe the flashback will make more sense in retrospect and upon rereading.
Well if you're assuming the flashback was a Jinbe flashback then yeah I guess it lacked a focal character but we've seen this type of flashback style with Oda before. Most recently with the Sabo/Ace/Luffy flashback but since this is explaining the history of a ppl the Skypeia flashback is just as good a comparison.
I'd say the main focus was Tiger and Otohime and then those who were immediately affected by their actions and what happened to them.
Overall, I began to like this flashback even more after Tiger died since the way he died left a bitter taste and it's real world comparisons piss me off. Don't see any problems with the flashback though. If anything it's a bright spot in this arc of shitty villains.
cnet translation is out http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/29897
Meh so Oda deviated from the set formula a bit. It actually made the flashback that much better IMHO. Something different every once in a while is good for the story and the author, keeps things from getting stale.
I think one of the main problems with this flashback was that it lacked focus. Or, rather, a focal character. With all the other flashbacks we had a character whom the events of the flashback revolved around and whom we could sympathize with. With Nami we sympathized with her losing her mother, Chopper losing Dr. Hiriluk, Franky feeling responsible for Tom's death, etc. So was there a focal character for this flashback?
And before I continue, I'd like to point out that another problem this flashback had was that it was really more a telling of two different events that didn't have a lot to do with eachother, or at least weren't interconnected.
So as for the focal character, who was it? Shirahoshi? No, not really. She didn't really have any role in Tiger's part of the backstory, and even in Otohime's half she wasn't really focused on and was just a spectator to what was going on. Was it Otohime? Hmm, now that would be an interesting angle; have the focal character be the character who gets killed off. And if it wasn't for Tiger's half of the story I might actually consider this a real possibility, but no, Otohime didn't really have much of a stake in Tiger's death. So now you may be thinking, "Oh, well it's probably Jinbei since he was present for both tragedies in the flashback." Well….not really. I guess you could make a case for Tiger's half since he had a fairly major role there, but even then he was more of a spectator and didn't have any close personal relationship with Tiger (no more or less than anyone else, anyway). And as for Otohime, he had even less screentime and, again, no deep personal relationship.
So I guess the answer is no, there wasn't a focal character, and unfortunately, yes, that does hurt it. Yes these are a series of tragic events, but who exactly are they happening to? Who is effected by it? Well, yes, obviously if effects the countless citizens of FI and several secondary characters, but where's the intimacy? This flashback is sort of like watching a sad story on the six o' clock news, say, several people being killed when a bridge collapses. Yes it's tragic and you certainly feel sorry for those involved, but it really doesn't effect you personally (and I apologize, yes, this may be a poor or, perhaps, even tasteless comparison, but you get my point).
But yeah, maybe the flashback will make more sense in retrospect and upon rereading.
I agree, I think this flashback is more supposed to be an informative one rather than an emotional one. The most important things are yet to happen, and will happen between the Straw Hats and Hodi and the rest of the fishmen. So fingers crossed that it's gonna be good.
And, I didn't like this chapter at all. Otohime's death was over in a flash - one moment she's dying and then she gets one panel for her funeral? - and was it just me or did the art look incredibly rushed? Except for maybe the last few pages with Nami.
@Mrs.:
I agree, I think this flashback is more supposed to be an informative one rather than an emotional one. The most important things are yet to happen, and will happen between the Straw Hats and Hodi and the rest of the fishmen. So fingers crossed that it's gonna be good.
And, I didn't like this chapter at all. Otohime's death was over in a flash - one moment she's dying and then she gets one panel for her funeral? - and was it just me or did the art look incredibly rushed? Except for maybe the last few pages with Nami.
I thought all the stuff with Otohime was emotional….
About the art, Rather than saying it was rushed, I think it felt sloppy especially with the princes face... They just look funny to me...
The problem with this flashback is, well, it is a flashback. I'm not a big fan of One Piece flashbacks because it doesn't contain those exciting fights and it has lots of dramas. At best, we see interesting major character's backstory, and at worst, it is a major reference for the current story arc. So flashbacks are quite necessary. But I don't mind this flashback really, and I think, the author couldn't have handled it better. The pacing is superb and the info is sufficient. And we got to see relatively young Jimbei which is super-awesome, but I wished he could have been younger (he must be 40-ish right now). We also see after-flashback Franky reaction, which is priceless. Really love Franky.
I thought all the stuff with Otohime was emotional….
It was emotional, but like Nobodyman said, we didn't have anyone to really relate to. There was no real personal appeal.
About the art, Rather than saying it was rushed, I think it felt sloppy especially with the princes face… They just look funny to me...
Rushed and sloppy. Not very pretty.
That flashback is really about Hodi's rise as a villain. Think about it.
@ultimateclima:
That flashback is really about Hodi's rise as a villain. Think about it.
Hummm, to some aspect yes, but I think Zik hit the nail on the head when he said "the main focus was Tiger and Otohime and then those who were immediately affected by their actions and what happened to them," though this is just my opinion. I guess it could be interpreted anyway?!
@Gia:
Hmmmm… it was a good chapter, but it was one of the only chapters i felt slightly dissapointed in the direction it was heading. And here i thought the shooter wouldnt be revealed for another 30 chapters lol. BUT, i do still feel something is fishy (werd) with the whole "he's a pirate, he had a gun, so we shot him" deal. But seriously some great gestures made in this chapter. It actually feels like Jinbe will become a strawhat more than ever now. But yes the most interesting part of this chapter, for me anyways, will be what Oda does with this Kings reverie deal. I really hope it involves Luffy in some way, and by that i mean new world government enemies and characters. Also interesting note is Jinbe's scar, i have a feeling he obtained it the same way shanks had his, by that i mean some fateful encounter that will give Jinbe a whole new take.
In Chapter 627,–-- looks like Mr Hordy feels sad about Queen Otohime's death and shows his anger towards the "killer"----quiet funny, I just recall part of his "great plan" is forcing the Fishman Island citizens to step on the fumi-e of Queen Otohime---- a great insult
The ASL flashbacks been 8 episodes…. It was insanely rushed in the manga. Who the hell cares if the anime takes its time making their bonds closer. Its not like we're eager to know what happens next, thats what the manga is for.
Well seeing as how I made a post complaining about I would say I do. And it wasn't rushed at all. It was pefect. They could have easily compessed it to 3-4 episodes in the anime. This is just pure stretching. Which I understand is neccesary but if you want at least they should give us something more interesting and not seen in the Manga like part of the other Straw Hats lives during those two years
But not to get off topic
Hordi's plan seem quite mysterious to me. Now at first I thought his target was the Sun Tree. By devoiding Fishmen Island fron sunglight he would force them all to leave for the surface which would probably start a war with the humans
But for this he wouldn't need to take over the palace. Now I think he is trying to pull off a Crocodile. Dress his man as Royal Soldiers and use them to attack the Reverie triggering a war which would force the Fishman to side with him as their best bet or risk extermination by the humans
@ultimateclima:
That flashback is really about Hodi's rise as a villain. Think about it.
Completely agree. The new question (that'll be answered in due time) is how high has his stature risen (or in layman's terms, is he a mini-boss, The Big Bad, or somewhere in-between?)?
If you're referring to the first non-cover page, it could either be a vein popping out from anger or a mistake. I seriously doubt it's a scar since he didn't have one minutes earlier in the previous chapter, nor later on in the chapter before the flashback ended.
Ah.. Now that you mention it. I do see veins in other areas that look similar. Kind of misleading placement but oh well, glad this was cleared up quickly.
I think one of the main problems with this flashback was that it lacked focus. Or, rather, a focal character. With all the other flashbacks we had a character whom the events of the flashback revolved around and whom we could sympathize with. With Nami we sympathized with her losing her mother, Chopper losing Dr. Hiriluk, Franky feeling responsible for Tom's death, etc. So was there a focal character for this flashback?
And before I continue, I'd like to point out that another problem this flashback had was that it was really more a telling of two different events that didn't have a lot to do with eachother, or at least weren't interconnected.
So as for the focal character, who was it? Shirahoshi? No, not really. She didn't really have any role in Tiger's part of the backstory, and even in Otohime's half she wasn't really focused on and was just a spectator to what was going on. Was it Otohime? Hmm, now that would be an interesting angle; have the focal character be the character who gets killed off. And if it wasn't for Tiger's half of the story I might actually consider this a real possibility, but no, Otohime didn't really have much of a stake in Tiger's death. So now you may be thinking, "Oh, well it's probably Jinbei since he was present for both tragedies in the flashback." Well….not really. I guess you could make a case for Tiger's half since he had a fairly major role there, but even then he was more of a spectator and didn't have any close personal relationship with Tiger (no more or less than anyone else, anyway). And as for Otohime, he had even less screentime and, again, no deep personal relationship.
So I guess the answer is no, there wasn't a focal character, and unfortunately, yes, that does hurt it. Yes these are a series of tragic events, but who exactly are they happening to? Who is effected by it? Well, yes, obviously if effects the countless citizens of FI and several secondary characters, but where's the intimacy? This flashback is sort of like watching a sad story on the six o' clock news, say, several people being killed when a bridge collapses. Yes it's tragic and you certainly feel sorry for those involved, but it really doesn't effect you personally (and I apologize, yes, this may be a poor or, perhaps, even tasteless comparison, but you get my point).
But yeah, maybe the flashback will make more sense in retrospect and upon rereading.
I think this was hardly the problem with the flashback. One of the greatest flashbacks in this manga is Norland's, and that flashback didn't focus on any main character, but rather on the overall story of the arc.
Unless you mean this arc didn't focus on anyone? In which case, that's not true, IMO, it focused on Fisher Tiger and Otohime.
@Mrs.:
I agree, I think this flashback is more supposed to be an informative one rather than an emotional one
I respectfully disagree
@ultimateclima:
That flashback is really about Hodi's rise as a villain. Think about it.
Which is why It'd really suck if he suddenly turned into the person behind the plan that convinced the marine to shoot Otohime, that just isn't realistic, its a cartoony approach to Hodi. Everything makes sense as it is, he saw hate in Humans, he learned of it, and each time he even had a single reason to trust them, shit with Humans happened. And that turned him into this despiseful character.
This is a realistic character, a character that is not that uncommon in this world. A character I can want to see beat the shit out of, but that I don't groan about how cartoony it is (Like the Tenryuubito).
Of course, Oda might give us a even better reasoning on why Hodi killed Otohime, but this is enough for me.
Guess there's a chance that Oda might do the "indirectly responsible for Otohime's death" story with Hodi, where he's the one who sets the signatures on fire but that leaves Otohime unable to recognize killing intent through CoO haki. The story behind who started the fire is one of the few big mysteries left to wrap up from the flashback.
I'd like it more if it was someone like DoFlamingo controlling the Pirate and the Signatures.
Or, if it was just a random Pirate who didn't want Humans and Fishman together. It doesn't need to be that fleshed out, everyone knows they hate each other.
@SGR:
I think this was hardly the problem with the flashback. One of the greatest flashbacks in this manga is Norland's, and that flashback didn't focus on any main character, but rather on the overall story of the arc.
Unless you mean this arc didn't focus on anyone? In which case, that's not true, IMO, it focused on Fisher Tiger and Otohime.
@Zik:
Well if you're assuming the flashback was a Jinbe flashback then yeah I guess it lacked a focal character but we've seen this type of flashback style with Oda before. Most recently with the Sabo/Ace/Luffy flashback but since this is explaining the history of a ppl the Skypeia flashback is just as good a comparison.
Yeah, I knew someone would bring up the Norland backstory, but allow me to explain. It's true that backstories usually focus on a tragic event of a character we already know and still alive, but Norland/Calgara's flashback, of course, focuses on, not one, but two characters who are both long dead.
However, while the flashback may not have one focal character, it does have a focal point; the friendship of these two characters. All the events and happenstances of the flashback are intertwined and built around this one point. As for how it affects the SHs….well, it doesn't really affect them, per se, but it does depict the significance of what they're doing.
As for the Tiger/Otohime flashback, however, there really is no focal point that ties the whole flashback together (aside from the whole shaky human/fishman relations theme, but we need something more tangible). And perhaps this really is the great weakness of the flashback, because it really does seem like two separate events that don't have much to do with eachother.
Yeah, I knew someone would bring up the Norland backstory, but allow me to explain. It's true that backstories usually focus on a tragic event of a character we already know and still alive, but Norland/Calgara's flashback, of course, focuses on, not one, but two characters who are both long dead.
However, while the flashback may not have one focal character, it does have a focal point; the friendship of these two characters. All the events and happenstances of the flashback are intertwined and built around this one point. As for how it affects the SHs….well, it doesn't really affect them, per se, but it does depict the significance of what they're doing.
As for the Tiger/Otohime flashback, however, there really is no focal point that ties the whole flashback together (aside from the whole shaky human/fishman relations theme, but we need something more tangible). And perhaps this really is the great weakness of the flashback, because it really does seem like two separate events that don't have much to do with eachother.
The difference between this flashback and the norland flashback, is that the norland flashback is at the end of the story it told. This flashback is at the beginning of the story it is supposed to impact on, thus the focal point that connects the flashback hasnt formed yet.
Yeah, I knew someone would bring up the Norland backstory, but allow me to explain. It's true that backstories usually focus on a tragic event of a character we already know and still alive, but Norland/Calgara's flashback, of course, focuses on, not one, but two characters who are both long dead.
However, while the flashback may not have one focal character, it does have a focal point; the friendship of these two characters. All the events and happenstances of the flashback are intertwined and built around this one point. As for how it affects the SHs….well, it doesn't really affect them, per se, but it does depict the significance of what they're doing.
As for the Tiger/Otohime flashback, however, there really is no focal point that ties the whole flashback together (aside from the whole shaky human/fishman relations theme, but we need something more tangible). And perhaps this really is the great weakness of the flashback, because it really does seem like two separate events that don't have much to do with eachother.
The focal characters are Fisher Tiger and Otohime, and the focal point is the hate between Humans and Fishermen.
I don't see where you're getting at.
The Reverie.
A once every four year meeting of the world's kings is happening this year (in story time). Can't stop thinking something huge will go down there. A screwed up world law being created? Attacked by the Revolutionaries? Something.
How didn't I notice that this was up until now?
Despite its flaws I think that this chapter was ok, especially the ending of the flashback. Some scenes gave me shivers and I like that.
In Chapter 627,–-- looks like Mr Hordy feels sad about Queen Otohime's death and his anger towards the "killer"----quiet funny, part of his "great plan" is forcing the Fishman Island citizens to step on the fumi-e of Queen Otohime---- a great insult
It's a good point, one that points toward the whole shooter thing being set up. If it was a random pirate, how would they have known to set the signatures on fire so it would distract Otohime?
what happened to zoro and the rest who were at the palace. Zoros slash appears to have had no effect on hodi after all, hopefully it'll be made clear in the next chapter
luffy can never stay awake for a good story.Well atleast nami ain't mad at jinbei
In Chapter 627,–-- looks like Mr Hordy feels sad about Queen Otohime's death and his anger towards the "killer"----quiet funny, part of his "great plan" is forcing the Fishman Island citizens to step on the fumi-e of Queen Otohime---- a great insult
Completely forgot this, great point.
The Reverie.
A once every four year meeting of the world's kings is happening this year (in story time). Can't stop thinking something huge will go down there. A screwed up world law being created? Attacked by the Revolutionaries? Something.
mb blackbeard will show up to do some damage??? for sure it wont be kings sitting in a circle talking about their afternoon tea~
what happened to zoro and the rest who were at the palace. Zoros slash appears to have had no effect on hodi after all, hopefully it'll be made clear in the next chapter
the energy steroid seems to have revived hodi, which makes me wonder its capabilities besides power buff