great chapter and all but there is one thing that i really dont like and it's shirahosi powers.
I mean sure summoning Sea Kings it's very powerful skill and all but i really cant see someone even a "mid tier" character having problem to deal with a Sea King,so the line about "she has the power to even destroy the world" bla bla i think its a bit lame and her power are "crazy/scary" just for the average people and civilians but against some strong guys those SeaKings aren't a problem.
So whoever think that she will join just because of her power it's LAME because put aside that she is huge,weak,crybaby etc etc this power cant help her during LAND FIGHTS but also we are heading to NEW WORLD and i dont believe that people there cant handle some SeaKings.
Chapter 626: "The Three Neptune Brothers" Discussion
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Again, these are true Sea Kings: http://www.mangareader.net/103-2208-8/one-piece/chapter-101.html
Big difference from the ones we tend to see.
There's a reason the Navy has to put SeaStone on the bottom of their ships. If mid-tier guys could deal with Calm Belt Sea Kings, there would be no need for such precautions on most ships.
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As to Otohime's death, anyone think Hodi could've done it. He hates humans and she pretty much just completed getting fishman island close to integration with humans
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Good chapter. I like the added element of mystery in this one. I'm all for Shirahoshi using the casket in a way that allows her to shrink to normal size and joining the crew. Don't really care about the arguments against it. Hopefully Robin will steal the show with some good poneglyph info once the flashback is over. I miss her.
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Only reason I think Hodi could have done it is that it would make Jinbe's request that Luffy not fight him make sense, i.e. it's Jinbe's fight.
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Again, these are true Sea Kings: http://www.mangareader.net/103-2208-8/one-piece/chapter-101.html
Big difference from the ones we tend to see.
There's a reason the Navy has to put SeaStone on the bottom of their ships. If mid-tier guys could deal with Calm Belt Sea Kings, there would be no need for such precautions on most ships.
I've never noticed the fact that the Viper hooded one has a Whale in it's mouth.
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I've never noticed the fact that the Viper hooded one has a Whale in it's mouth.
Neither did I oO. Good find ^^
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Again, these are true Sea Kings: http://www.mangareader.net/103-2208-8/one-piece/chapter-101.html
Big difference from the ones we tend to see.
There's a reason the Navy has to put SeaStone on the bottom of their ships. If mid-tier guys could deal with Calm Belt Sea Kings, there would be no need for such precautions on most ships.
I know the difference between them but let me give you 2 examples
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http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-371/page010.html
This is a Sea King that T-bone cut EASILY.Even if it is smaller if a CAPTAIN can EASILY cut it i see no difficult for COUNTLESS stronger chars to kill the bigger -
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-526/page012.html
Those are CALM BELT Sea Kings simply because they are at ID,and the Blugori (that PRE TS luffy gave them the fodder treatment) killed them EASILY
So,even if the Sea Kings shirahosi summon are bigger than those if some MID TIER char like blugori,t-bone can EASILY kill them i see no problem at all for the bigger Sea Kings to be killed by dozens of stronger guys
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I know the difference between them but let me give you 2 examples
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http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-371/page010.html
This is a Sea King that T-bone cut EASILY.Even if it is smaller if a CAPTAIN can EASILY cut it i see no difficult for COUNTLESS stronger chars to kill the bigger -
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-526/page012.html
Those are CALM BELT Sea Kings simply because they are at ID,and the Blugori (that PRE TS luffy gave them the fodder treatment) killed them EASILY
So,even if the Sea Kings shirahosi summon are bigger than those if some MID TIER char like blugori,t-bone can EASILY kill them i see no problem at all for the bigger Sea Kings to be killed by dozens of stronger guys
Fair point. The T-Bone example did occur to me–and I thought it was a pretty big problem--but had forgotten the Blugori, which really aren't as big of an issue (by scale, that Sea King doesn't seem that massive, and there were quite a few Blugori attacking it).
Still, I think if a handful of Sea Kings the size of the one with the Going Merry on its nose attacked at once, then there would be pretty significant problems for anyone.
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Fair point. The T-Bone example did occur to me–and I thought it was a pretty big problem--but had forgotten the Blugori, which really aren't as big of an issue (by scale, that Sea King doesn't seem that massive, and there were quite a few Blugori attacking it).
Still, I think if a handful of Sea Kings the size of the one with the Going Merry on its nose attacked at once, then there would be pretty significant problems for anyone.
Sure if there are a bunch of them they will probably be a problem, but the line of otohime that could destroy the world its FAR EXAGGERATED…
Also i just remember the Sea King that Momonga killed EASILY while waiting for the Kuja pirates.
My point is that the Sea Kings are strong and all but just for the average people and civilians and seeing that tbone or blugori killed them without difficult(even if the Sea Kings were a bit smaller) then POST TS luffy/zoro and countless other chars(i don't even dare to say about admirals/yonko etc etc cuz i am SURE that they can EASILY kill dozens of these Sea Kings) can handle MANY of them without a problem.
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Read the chapter, my thoughts are now being served
- Okay am getting a little confused at Decken's goal. Does he want the princess or the treasure of the kingdom? And an interesting plot point with the tametabako (Thanks Cowboy Bebop for the insight ^_^) .
- Huh got a World Noble to back her huh. Yeah I smell shenanigans on that. Then again theres a chance she probably met one that was at least decent.
- Gotta say as cliche it was that the citizens rallying behind her, it was pretty epic. From tears of sorrow to tears of joy, perseverance won out in the end.
- More insight on the Mermaid legend. Yeah its gonna be Luffy, who else would she be talking about. Still threw some fire on Fishman Island's destruction. Now its just a case of either being Luffy or Shirahoshi that triggers it.
- Wow that was…surprisingly sudden. I like it cause we were expecting a build up to it, instead just right out of the blue. You can just feel the growing horror of everyone in the area as they realized all too late what happened. Especially since the killer started a commotion to his advantage. Indeed this dude was smart. Rather dick move of Decken to make his move too but eh.
- Poor kids, having to see their mother die right before their eyes (and I just realized, an odd similarity to Bellemere's death). The dancing of Manboshi and Ryuboshi just made it even tougher to read (in a good way). Gotta say even dying, Otohime makes it look elegant. R.I.P sweet queen.
So yeah now we got a whodunit on our hands (unless Oda will reveal it next chapter). I really doubt it was Aladdin since he was just as loyal as Jinbe was. Plus I like the guy and would rather not see him sink to such a low. So yeah that just leaves Hodi, tatermoog and ElementNick brought up some good points.
As to Otohime's death, anyone think Hodi could've done it. He hates humans and she pretty much just completed getting fishman island close to integration with humans
Only reason I think Hodi could have done it is that it would make Jinbe's request that Luffy not fight him make sense, i.e. it's Jinbe's fight.
Course it could just be some random mercenary the Nobles hired. Wouldn't put it past em.
So next week, aftermath of the murder and hopefully back to the main storyline.
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I have a hard time believing that Otohime was killed by some random merc/thug/whatever. In the history of One Piece has anybody important ever been killed by fodder before? Bellemere was killed by Alrong, Ace by Akainu, Whitebeard was eventually done in by the Blackbeard pirates, hell even when we thought the Unluckies were dead it was Sanji who allegedly killed them. My point being I don't think a character as well liked and important as Otohime was ultimately killed by some random jerk with a gun, just doesn't add up to me.
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I have a hard time believing that Otohime was killed by some random merc/thug/whatever. In the history of One Piece has anybody important ever been killed by fodder before? Bellemere was killed by Alrong, Ace by Akainu, Whitebeard was eventually done in by the Blackbeard pirates, hell even when we thought the Unluckies were dead it was Sanji who allegedly killed them. My point being I don't think a character as well liked and important as Otohime was ultimately killed by some random jerk with a gun, just doesn't add up to me.
Brook's crew (and Brook himself) was killed by unnamed pirates who I doubt we'll ever see since it's been 52 years, unless we see the "Old Man Pirates who use Poison" sometime in the future…
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Brook's crew (and Brook himself) was killed by unnamed pirates who I doubt we'll ever see since it's been 52 years, unless we see the "Old Man Pirates who use Poison" sometime in the future…
Good point, I just don't think Otohime's killer will be some nameless fishman/human assassin. We may even find out who in the next couple of chapters unless Oda is saving the reveal for something bigger.
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Brook's crew (and Brook himself) was killed by unnamed pirates who I doubt we'll ever see since it's been 52 years, unless we see the "Old Man Pirates who use Poison" sometime in the future…
Knowing Oda I'm pretty sure we will see that crew in the future in some way.
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I have a hard time believing that Otohime was killed by some random merc/thug/whatever. In the history of One Piece has anybody important ever been killed by fodder before? Bellemere was killed by Alrong, Ace by Akainu, Whitebeard was eventually done in by the Blackbeard pirates, hell even when we thought the Unluckies were dead it was Sanji who allegedly killed them. My point being I don't think a character as well liked and important as Otohime was ultimately killed by some random jerk with a gun, just doesn't add up to me.
only two chapters ago another pretty important fishman was killed by fodder with guns -.-
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I was worried the story will go in this direction.
What I mean with that is… that Shirahoshi will have this power and the bit where "someone will come and change the world..."
When that was added I was wondering, this is just all too sudden for me.... Where is the buildup, where we learn tens of chapters later how everything ties in together and that this power, the mermaid legend itself and all of a sudden everything is logical. It just feels to me like everything has been thrown together too fast.So as a result, did not like the chapter. Didn't like the goofy like character of Van Decken, did not like how the queen death was displayed and most of all did not like princess having this sort of power.
Even the 2 brothers cheering her sister like that, so she doesn't "flip" out, felt stange and out of place.I hope all of you, or at least majority of you have enjoyed the chapter to the fullest, which in a way I have no doubt you all have.
I did, but I read One Piece just casual. You shouldnt overthink everything, it will destroy your fun in reading it.. that's just my opinion though xD. Every has to read it on his own way ofcourse :).
Anyways, chapter was cool. Just wonderin, who the killer was.
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only two chapters ago another pretty important fishman was killed by fodder with guns -.-
He chose to die, that's diferent. He was criticaly injured by foder and Strawberry.
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I know the difference between them but let me give you 2 examples
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http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-371/page010.html
This is a Sea King that T-bone cut EASILY.Even if it is smaller if a CAPTAIN can EASILY cut it i see no difficult for COUNTLESS stronger chars to kill the bigger -
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-526/page012.html
Those are CALM BELT Sea Kings simply because they are at ID,and the Blugori (that PRE TS luffy gave them the fodder treatment) killed them EASILY
So,even if the Sea Kings shirahosi summon are bigger than those if some MID TIER char like blugori,t-bone can EASILY kill them i see no problem at all for the bigger Sea Kings to be killed by dozens of stronger guys
You don't seem to quite grasp the comparison. You're looking at sea kings that are roughly the size of a marine battleship at best. A marine battleship is approximately the size of a world noble's ship, if not smaller. A world noble's ship was like a peanut to the sea kings that Shirahoshi summoned. In other words, the sea kings we've seen killed are about the size of one of Shirahoshi's sea kings' eyeballs.
We've never seen anything remotely close to that big get dealt with by anyone. Even Oars doesn't compare. It's more on the level of San Juan Wolf or the monsters in the Florian Triangle.
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Anyone thinking top-tier human fighters have no problem dispatching an entire army of the largest sized Sea kings is out of their minds.
Those things are no joke. Srsly.Yeah, considering scale…the biggest Sea Kings are probably what...2, 3 MILES long?
The largest Sea Kings are even larger than an adult Regal Mammoth from Toriko. Luffy's about-to-be legendary haki might be enough to overwhelm those creatures, but you probably need firepower equivalent to a small tactical nuke to take out the biggest of those things…
...on that note, is Luffyworld the size of Jupiter or something?
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just 4 times our earth - i think
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Wow, great chapter. So much info. I don't think Dekken did it either. Aladdin as the shadowy figure could be possible given he was a slave and might not fully follow Jinbe's ideology, but I'll hold off on agreeing to that. I have a feeling the Poneglyph ties into the ancient weapon. They mention, according to the legend, shirahoshi's power could be used to destroy whole islands. It's possible she'll use the seakings to pull that big ship (as shown with Mohmoo) in Noah, revealing an ancient weapon…
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Just read it and i can only think of one group who could have done this so flawlessly CP9!!!
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Wow, great chapter. So much info. I don't think Dekken did it either. Aladdin as the shadowy figure could be possible given he was a slave and might not fully follow Jinbe's ideology, but I'll hold off on agreeing to that. I have a feeling the Poneglyph ties into the ancient weapon. They mention, according to the legend, shirahoshi's power could be used to destroy whole islands. It's possible she'll use the seakings to pull that big ship (as shown with Mohmoo) in Noah, revealing an ancient weapon…
I like your idea that seakings will pull the ark. nice…
I also support the idea of the ancient weapon in FI (though not yet revealed).
Lastly, as the strawhat already brand as evil human by FI inhabitants (attacking the palace, kidnapping princess), i think it is possible for Luffy to enrage the FI inhabitant by destroying the FI (or voluntary taking the blame when anyone else is destroying the city), so the prediction is true indeed.
I can only think of one reason that is morally acceptable to destroy one home. Accident :D, the FI island is in grave danger and will be destroyed anyway (to insist the citizen flee), and... FI is a ancient weapon / threat that need to be destroyed. -
I have to say i love the idea about cp9… I don't think it's going to happen but if it would be them hell yeah why not... I love thatflashback, it gives a lot of informations. In my opinion, although i'm neither for or against jinbei, if the princess uses her powers to protect FI there would be no reason to stay for him.... On the other hand my guess is that FI will be destroyed by luffy so the fishman are no longer forced to live in the cage beneath the sea.... They have to find/live in the world above, they will start a new live somewhere else and the princess is going to protect the island... Let's see wait how oda surprises us with the next bang
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Just a thought; Otohime said that mermaids were not able to "communicate their feelings with Sea Kings", not even Neptune, which implies that they cannot call or command them in any way
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/88732753/11
but how comes that the NFP were riding on those then? Especially after Ryuboshi said he always wanted to TRY riding on one of those. And since the Seakings of the NFP seem to be willingly following their orders, someone has to control them, and I guess it is Hodi - maybe also Zeo or another commander. Question is, how, after this chapter. Thoughts? -
They tamed them and those aren't the huge ones Shiraoshi controls, they like the Momo but with diferent faces instead of a cow .
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Yeah, those are not sea kings, merely larger sea creatures.
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They tamed them and those aren't the huge ones Shiraoshi controls, they like the Momo but with diferent faces instead of a cow .
I wonder if those underwater-monster are crossbreeding with mammals, just like mermaids do with fishman.
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You don't seem to quite grasp the comparison. You're looking at sea kings that are roughly the size of a marine battleship at best. A marine battleship is approximately the size of a world noble's ship, if not smaller. A world noble's ship was like a peanut to the sea kings that Shirahoshi summoned. In other words, the sea kings we've seen killed are about the size of one of Shirahoshi's sea kings' eyeballs.
We've never seen anything remotely close to that big get dealt with by anyone. Even Oars doesn't compare. It's more on the level of San Juan Wolf or the monsters in the Florian Triangle.
I agree that the previous are smaller and those that shirahoshi summoned were about san juan wolf size i know that, BUT seeing that t-bone example who is a merely CAPTAIN and easily cut one Sea King even a smaller one, i really don't see a problem for someone like akainu or shanks or wb(if he was alive) to kill even many of them..Seriously even a dozen of those things for example going to fight against a logia user like akainu,kizaru etc etc(i mean experienced and strong logia users not like caribou) i cant even see them damaging them and the logia user can easily spam laserbeams,magma punches whatever and kill them..
I never say that those things arent strong and all BUT i dont believe guys like the Admirals/yonko/mihawk etc etc have a problem against them thats my point
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I agree that the previous are smaller and those that shirahoshi summoned were about san juan wolf size i know that, BUT seeing that t-bone example who is a merely CAPTAIN and easily cut one Sea King even a smaller one, i really don't see a problem for someone like akainu or shanks or wb(if he was alive) to kill even many of them..Seriously even a dozen of those things for example going to fight against a logia user like akainu,kizaru etc etc(i mean experienced and strong logia users not like caribou) i cant even see them damaging them and the logia user can easily spam laserbeams,magma punches whatever and kill them..
I never say that those things arent strong and all BUT i dont believe guys like the Admirals/yonko/mihawk etc etc have a problem against them thats my point
DF users can't fight in the water, where the sea kings live. In what situation could that fight even happen?
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http://mangahead.com/mangas/Manga-English-Scan/One-Piece/One-Piece-626-English-Scan/22.jpg
WTF?
yep. had the same reaction.
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this chapter was totally awesome!
but something totally freaked me out!
indeed otohime said that one day someone will take the mermaid who can talk to the sea kings out is that mean she will join luffy's crew? or is this luffy who will bring her power out and let shirahoshi know about it and learn how to use it?
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DF users can't fight in the water, where the sea kings live. In what situation could that fight even happen?
Jesus…want some examples?okay then here we go
1)akainu is on a battlesip and some Sea Kings appear(just like when momonga KILLED EASILY ONE while waiting for Kuja pirates) and then starting his magma punches or whatever and completely annihilate them(we saw him EASILY completely evaporate one huge iceburg jozu threw and this iceburg was way bigger than Oars,sure Oars is small compare to those Sea Kings BUT if an Admiral has problem to kill them it's ridiculous srsly..and seeing akainu EASILY evaporate a huge iceburg i see no real problem for someone like him to kill those Sea Kings)
2)Akainu/Kizaru whoever DF STRONG user is on FI and some Sea King appear and kill it
3)He is on the harbor of an island near Calm Belt like AL or even ID for example and those Sea Kings appearIt's ok for you now that i gave you 3 examples of how a DF user can kill a Sea King?
Again,my point is that the Sea Kings are strong and all i never said they are weak BUT we saw examples like Tbone,blugori that EASILY kill them even if they were smaller and Also Momonga EASILY kill one and it was Huge so IF CHARACTERS like these can kill the smaller where is the problem for COUNTLESS other MUCH STRONGER chars to kill the bigger?Srsly if the likes of admirals/yonko and many other chars have problem against them it would be ridiculous..
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I never say that those things arent strong and all BUT i dont believe guys like the Admirals/yonko/mihawk etc etc have a problem against them thats my point
I honestly think you just aren't understanding the scale of these things. The Sea Kings we saw Shirahoshi summon are on the same scale as the ones that the Straw Hats encountered in the Calm Belts; considering the sheer size of them and the number she could feasibly summon (we have no idea how many Sea Kings live in the oceans but perhaps in the tens or hundreds of thousands) I don't think it's unlikely that even Akainu or Kizaru would be overwhelmed.
indeed otohime said that one day someone will take the mermaid who can talk to the sea kings out is that mean she will join luffy's crew? or is this luffy who will bring her power out and let shirahoshi know about it and learn how to use it?
i'm clueless, such a giant mermaid joining the crew it will be insane!Most likely the latter. There's no reason for Shirahoshi to join the crew.
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I honestly think you just aren't understanding the scale of these things. The Sea Kings we saw Shirahoshi summon are on the same scale as the ones that the Straw Hats encountered in the Calm Belts; considering the sheer size of them and the number she could feasibly summon (we have no idea how many Sea Kings live in the oceans but perhaps in the tens or hundreds of thousands) I don't think it's unlikely that even Akainu or Kizaru would be overwhelmed.
Most likely the latter. There's no reason for Shirahoshi to join the crew.
I understand very well their size and that they are way more bigger than the Sea Kings that tbone,blugori killed.I think you didn't read my posts carefully i said that IF the likes of tbone/blugori etc etc can EASILY kill the smaller,how can the bigger be a SERIOUS problem to chars like admirals/shanks etc etc?It would be lame srsly.Also i never said that akainu for example can annihilate all of the Calm Belt Sea Kings dont get me wrong,however if some of them suddenly appear(with some i mean 3-4-5?) i cant imagine chars like them to have a REALLY big problem killing them.That's all.
Also even if the Sea Kings are huge,powerful etcetc they just dont stand a chance against someone experienced&strong LOGIA df user simply because they will never be able to hit him,except if you believe that they have CoA which will be the biggest troll ever in OP
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I understand very well their size and that they are way more bigger than the Sea Kings that tbone,blugori killed.I think you didn't read my posts carefully i said that IF the likes of tbone/blugori etc etc can EASILY kill the smaller,how can the bigger be a SERIOUS problem to chars like admirals/shanks etc etc?It would be lame srsly.Also i never said that akainu for example can annihilate all of the Calm Belt Sea Kings dont get me wrong,however if some of them suddenly appear(with some i mean 3-4-5?) i cant imagine chars like them to have a REALLY big problem killing them.That's all.
I read your post and I understand that. I think the point that Otohime was making is that the world as a whole would be destroyed. Marine Headquarters would be an exception because of the number of hugely powerful people centered there, but any pirate ship no matter how strong its crew was would be swallowed whole, and places like Water 7 and Alabasta and Saboady don't have strong people to defend them and would likely be destroyed.
So I do agree with you, but the whole world can't be defended by a handful of people, no matter how strong they are.
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I read your post and I understand that. I think the point that Otohime was making is that the world as a whole would be destroyed. Marine Headquarters would be an exception because of the number of hugely powerful people centered there, but any pirate ship no matter how strong its crew was would be swallowed whole, and places like Water 7 and Alabasta and Saboady don't have strong people to defend them and would likely be destroyed.
So I do agree with you, but the whole world can't be defended by a handful of people, no matter how strong they are.
Well,I take otohime's words as "exaggerated" simply because we heard the same words from the mouth of Sengoku for WB's power and that he could destroy the world,but it the end he failed to destroy a thick steel wall.Always these lines about "the world would be destroyed etc etc" are far fetched, and as you said shirahoshi power of summoning the Sea Kings would be really dangerous for average people/civilians around the world but NOWHERE near to completely destroy the whole world, pretty much like WB's power that he could easily destroy islands etc etc but actually he couldn't REALLY destroy the world
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Well,I take otohime's words as "exaggerated" simply because we heard the same words from the mouth of Sengoku for WB's power and that he could destroy the world,but it the end he failed to destroy a thick steel wall.Always these lines about "the world would be destroyed etc etc" are far fetched, and as you said shirahoshi power of summoning the Sea Kings would be really dangerous for average people/civilians around the world but NOWHERE near to completely destroy the whole world, pretty much like WB's power that he could easily destroy islands etc etc but actually he couldn't REALLY destroy the world
Who said it was made from steel?
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Well,I take otohime's words as "exaggerated" simply because we heard the same words from the mouth of Sengoku for WB's power and that he could destroy the world,but it the end he failed to destroy a thick steel wall.Always these lines about "the world would be destroyed etc etc" are far fetched, and as you said shirahoshi power of summoning the Sea Kings would be really dangerous for average people/civilians around the world but NOWHERE near to completely destroy the whole world, pretty much like WB's power that he could easily destroy islands etc etc but actually he couldn't REALLY destroy the world
There's a huge, huge difference between Whitebeard and the sum of Sea Kings in the world. Sengoku only stated his "power" could destroy the world, not the man himself (remember the entire chapter devoted to the fact that Whitebeard was only one man, with one heart? And the fact that his health had been falling for a while before the war?).
Whitebeard couldn't do shit if he were confronted with all the Sea Kings in the world, he'd be eaten in seconds. Sea Kings (when controlled like that) are far more of a threat than Whitebeard ever could be.
You can't compare the destructive potential one biggish old man, Gura Gura no Mi or not, to thousands of sea creatures, many the size of entire islands.
Perhaps Blackbeard could theoretically combat Sea Kings if the Yami Yami no Mi is strong enough to swallow them, but otherwise I'd easily say the Sea Kings have far more destructive potential than any human character we've seen so far.
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There's a huge, huge difference between Whitebeard and the sum of Sea Kings in the world. Sengoku only stated his "power" could destroy the world, not the man himself (remember the entire chapter devoted to the fact that Whitebeard was only one man, with one heart? And the fact that his health had been falling for a while before the war?).
Whitebeard couldn't do shit if he were confronted with all the Sea Kings in the world, he'd be eaten in seconds. Sea Kings (when controlled like that) are far more of a threat than Whitebeard ever could be.
You can't compare the destructive potential one biggish old man, Gura Gura no Mi or not, to thousands of sea creatures, many the size of entire islands.
Perhaps Blackbeard could theoretically combat Sea Kings if the Yami Yami no Mi is strong enough to swallow them, but otherwise I'd easily say the Sea Kings have far more destructive potential than any human character we've seen so far.
Sure if someone was attacked by hundreds of them he would be screwed(put aside Logias probably),and even attacking a place MANY of them together they are a serious threat i never deny that,HOWEVER i am 101% sure that even many of them could do NOTHING to a strong logia DF user and that was my point in the beggining or did you ever thought that thoese dull monsters even if they are HUGE can actually control CoA and be able to hit a logia user?For example bring 5 Sea Kings against Aokiji and they would do shit,he could EASILY froze all of them and break them apart or more likely Enel whom with his gorogoro fruit can send some hundreds millions bolt in the sea and KO them,just some examples.Dont compare a logia DF user like caribou only REALLY STRONG df users
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Sure if someone was attacked by hundreds of them he would be screwed(put aside Logias probably),and even attacking a place MANY of them together they are a serious threat i never deny that,HOWEVER i am 101% sure that even many of them could do NOTHING to a strong logia DF user and that was my point in the beggining or did you ever thought that thoese dull monsters even if they are HUGE can actually control CoA and be able to hit a logia user?For example bring 5 Sea Kings against Aokiji and they would do shit,he could EASILY froze all of them and break them apart or more likely Enel whom with his gorogoro fruit can send some hundreds millions bolt in the sea and KO them,just some examples.Dont compare a logia DF user like caribou only REALLY STRONG df users
they can eat the island where the logia user is, and he would fall into the sea.
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Who said it was made from steel?
i dont really care if it was steel or not the pirates said this it wasn't ordinary steel so what?
The point is that Sengoku said the he hold the power to destroy the world and in the end he failed to break a wall,steel wall,no ordinary steel wall call it whatever you want it -
IDK which chap that was but during the war Mihawk said to himself bout Luffy that Luffy's ability to get followers is also the most dangerous ability in the world.
Of course we can now debate how a bunch of giant sea kings can destroy the world or not, but we know that shonen authors have to excite the readers that those creatures are dangerous. Just like admirals and the yonkou. And @ least in FI a rampage of those sea kings can cause a lot of trouble. -
they can eat the island where the logia user is, and he would fall into the sea.
seriously something more serious than these lame answears?Momonga was also eaten by a SeaKing and he EASILY killed it.
Or do you ever think Oda will come with something so stupid like (oh shit Akainu got eaten by a SeaKing and he actually died).
Stop the bs or reply with something serious -
i dont really care if it was steel or not the pirates said this it wasn't ordinary steel so what?
The point is that Sengoku said the he hold the power to destroy the world and in the end he failed to break a wall,steel wall,no ordinary steel wall call it whatever you want itShirohige can destroy the world without have to be able to destroy that wall.
he can sinks islands, he would have sunk Marineford if there weren't people capable of killing him.
If you sink all the islands you have destroyed the world.seriously something more serious than these lame answears?Momonga was also eaten by a SeaKing and he EASILY killed it.
Or do you ever think Oda will come with something so stupid like (oh shit Akainu got eaten by a SeaKing and he actually died).
Stop the bs or reply with something seriousThe point is not that the seakings eat him (he will survive because he is logia).
The seakings eat the island with the Logia user, the Logia user escapes making a hole before the seaking goes underwater, the logia user hasn't anything more than sea around him, he falls in water and dies. -
Shirohige can destroy the world without have to be able to destroy that wall.
he can sinks islands, he would have sunk Marineford if there weren't people capable of killing him.
If you sink all the islands you have destroyed the world.The point is not that the seakings eat him (he will survive because he is logia).
The seakings eat the island with the Logia user, the Logia user escapes making a hole, before the seaking goes underwater, the logia user hasn't anything more than sea around him, he falls in water and dies.I'll not continue cuz you just not want to think otherwise.The line about he could destroy the world it's farfetched i already said that he could sinking islands etcetc but someone could stop him before sinks ALL OF THE WORLD,like with those SeaKings that are HUGE and can destroy islands etc etc someone will KILL THEM it's not like they can destroy the world with one hit same with WB.Also as the strongest man alive(then) and the strongest paramecia fruit he could destroy many things but in the end he failed against a WALL so it's FAR FETCHED.
I understand your point,and as i said in my previous post if you ever think Oda'll come up with something stupid as you think it's ridiculous just to think about it.Thank god you dont right the story..
Just for the sake of argument then,Akainu got eaten and after he kill the Sea King he Geppou all the way to the next island/country etc etc.Ok for you now ?Ah, and don't say we dont know if he knows Geppou we saw COUNTLESS marines using it. -
Ok, 4 the discussion shadow and akagami have:
erm, lets count all the strong people we have so far:
Marines: 3 admirals, 10+VAs, 2 Legends (Garp, Sengoku)
Pirates: 4 Yonkou (with each Yonkou havin like 3+ strong members=16)
11-15 Rookies (we don't know the number of all the rookies, only the ones that were on SA @ the same time as Luffy) + 7 Shichibukai + Dragon and his revolutionaries, Rayleigh and Krokus etc.
well, lets say those are 60-70 really shitstrong people.
but if the hundreds of giant sea kings go on a rampage world wide, IDK how a strong dude can handle that.
Sure an admiral could defeat a SeaKing, but even an admiral can't be on different places @ the same time (well, Kizaru is close to it due the speed of light, but still).
So if the mermaid tells the sea kings to go on a rampage world wide, IMO the majority of the world could be fucked up. the places where the shitstrong people reside would be safe.
And IF the sea kings go on a rampage against the WG, I doubt that Dragon, Yonkou and other pirates would stick with em together, so you'll see, the world WILL CHANGE if those monsters go on a rampage.
Only question is:
How do sea kings get up the RedLine? Maybe the WG is because of that @ MJ. Seems to be a safe place far away from any seamonster. No, just kidding, its also the center of the world, no doubt. But its location in height is also useful to get rid of the ocean's beasts. -
I'll not continue cuz you just not want to think otherwise.The line about he could destroy the world it's farfetched i already said that he could sinking islands etcetc but someone could stop him before sinks ALL OF THE WORLD,like with those SeaKings that are HUGE and can destroy islands etc etc someone will KILL THEM it's not like they can destroy the world with one hit same with WB.Also as the strongest man alive(then) and the strongest paramecia fruit he could destroy many things but in the end he failed against a WALL so it's FAR FETCHED.
Sengoku said that shirohige has the ability to destroy the world, but he didn't sad that nobody could stop him, there wasn't anything wrong in those lines.
I understand your point,and as i said in my previous post if you ever think Oda'll come up with something stupid as you think it's ridiculous just to think about it.Thank god you dont right the story..
Just for the sake of argument then,Akainu got eaten and after he kill the Sea King he Geppou all the way to the next island/country etc etc.Ok for you now ?Ah, and don't say we dont know if he knows Geppou we saw COUNTLESS marines using it.Do you really think I want that to happen in the story?
It only was an hypothesis with zero worth to the plot, Its the only way that the seakings can hurt a Logia, OK I don't cosnider the use of Cp9 techniques, but other Logia users woul die.
And who cares if Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji and some others survive, the world can be destroyed by Seakings even with them alive. Destroyed the world is not the same than kill all the people.