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@Stereo:
I have one more guy will play, can we play with seven or too hard for town?
Since Gooner just signed up, do u think you can get that one guy to come on board?
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1.Shuhan
2.Wooden_Giraffe
3.Galaxy 9000
4.Stereo Mike
5.Pyrofrost
6.Bogart
7.Mrs. Iceburg
8.Gooner
9.
Bear with me just back home Holy, I'll let you know (just sent him a im)
If you've got a spot, I'll join.
@Surround:
Bear with me just back home Holy, I'll let you know (just sent him a im)
Or replace.
1.Shuhan
2.Wooden_Giraffe
3.Galaxy 9000
4.Stereo Mike
5.Pyrofrost
6.Bogart
7.Mrs. Iceburg
8.Gooner
9.Harvady Alumnus
Ok, sign ups are now closed. Please wait a bit while I set things up.
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7 Townspeople 2 Mafia Roleblockers Standard Rules:
! 1.The object of the game is to achieve your win condition using yourabilities, working together with allies and lynching yoursuspects. Forthe enjoyment of all, always play towards your win condition.
2.In order for a participant to be lynched, a player must type "Vote:PlayerName"or "VoteLynch: PlayerName".
! 3.Players may solicit a No Lynch by writing "Vote:No Lynch".If the majority votes "NoLynch",the day ends without a lynch.
! 4.Contestants may rescind or adjust their vote, but may only do so byfirst entering "Unvote"followed by any further modifications. Allvoting and/or unvoting must be done in BOLD or it will not becounted.
! 5.Once a majority has been reached, the current count immediatelyvalidates a lynch and ends the Day Phase, whether or not themoderator is present. Unvoting or changing of votes after the factwill not alter the outcome.
! 6.Personal Messaging, E-mail and any other means of communicationoutside of the game thread are prohibited. Discussion about the game(between active players) is restricted to the main thread. Only themembers of the Mafia are an exception.
! 7.A direct copy or printscreen of your role is forbidden. You mayfreely paraphrase (or falsify) them.
! 8.Deceased players may not post in the main thread at any time.Non-players are asked to refrain from posting until the gameends.
! 9.During the Night Phase, no player may post in the mainthread.
! 10. DONOT EDIT YOUR POSTS ONCE THE GAME OFFICIALLY STARTS. BREAKING THISRULE WILL RESULT IN A MOD-KILL.
! Truthfully,Mafia requires a level of secrecy that can only be managed with fullcooperation from all players. Everyone must maintain the integrity ofthe game to the best of their ability in order for the game to beenjoyable. People who break these rules will be punished.
Game Specific Rules:
! My variation is very similar to "classic mafia" except for one thing: Nobody starts off with any roles except for the two mafia members, and both of them have roleblock.
! Now if you think this is unfair don't worry, as it won't stay this way for long. Each day right as I'm about to declare the day over and for the night shift to begin, I will randomly role a die to select one of the townspeople, and then randomly role to see what ability that person will receive The recipient will know that they have been chosen through pm and will be able to use the ability immediately right after they get it.
! However, the person must wait 2 day phases after they receive their ability before they can reveal it, otherwise they lose that ability (though they will be notified through pm and not the forum). Also, this applies to mafia too, but they will lose it if they reveal it ever.
! A townsperson can have multiple abilities, but can't have a second until all the living players receive one (so not very likely in this game).
! Mafia can't gain new abilities.
As with before, I will start the game once everyone has confirmed their role pm's. These will be sent out shortly, so announce it here one you have received.
PM received for any who care.
Yep. I got the PM.
Pm got .
Message recieved.
Roll *
Handsome man save me from the monsters. 
Avatar credits to rcerione
Role received and ready.
Got the PM boss, ready to go
I'm ready!
Confirmed PM recd
Role confirmation
7 Townspeople 2 Mafia Roleblockers Standard Rules:
! 1.The object of the game is to achieve your win condition using yourabilities, working together with allies and lynching yoursuspects. Forthe enjoyment of all, always play towards your win condition.
2.In order for a participant to be lynched, a player must type "Vote:PlayerName"or "VoteLynch: PlayerName".
! 3.Players may solicit a No Lynch by writing "Vote:No Lynch".If the majority votes "NoLynch",the day ends without a lynch.
! 4.Contestants may rescind or adjust their vote, but may only do so byfirst entering "Unvote"followed by any further modifications. Allvoting and/or unvoting must be done in BOLD or it will not becounted.
! 5.Once a majority has been reached, the current count immediatelyvalidates a lynch and ends the Day Phase, whether or not themoderator is present. Unvoting or changing of votes after the factwill not alter the outcome.
! 6.Personal Messaging, E-mail and any other means of communicationoutside of the game thread are prohibited. Discussion about the game(between active players) is restricted to the main thread. Only themembers of the Mafia are an exception.
! 7.A direct copy or printscreen of your role is forbidden. You mayfreely paraphrase (or falsify) them.
! 8.Deceased players may not post in the main thread at any time.Non-players are asked to refrain from posting until the gameends.
! 9.During the Night Phase, no player may post in the mainthread.
! 10. DONOT EDIT YOUR POSTS ONCE THE GAME OFFICIALLY STARTS. BREAKING THISRULE WILL RESULT IN A MOD-KILL.
! Truthfully,Mafia requires a level of secrecy that can only be managed with fullcooperation from all players. Everyone must maintain the integrity ofthe game to the best of their ability in order for the game to beenjoyable. People who break these rules will be punished.
Game Specific Rules:
! My variation is very similar to "classic mafia" except for one thing: Nobody starts off with any roles except for the two mafia members, and both of them have roleblock.
! Now if you think this is unfair don't worry, as it won't stay this way for long. Each day right as I'm about to declare the day over and for the night shift to begin, I will randomly role a die to select one of the townspeople, and then randomly role to see what ability that person will receive The recipient will know that they have been chosen through pm and will be able to use the ability immediately right after they get it.
! However, the person must wait 2 day phases after they receive their ability before they can reveal it, otherwise they lose that ability (though they will be notified through pm and not the forum). Also, this applies to mafia too, but they will lose it if they reveal it ever.
! A townsperson can have multiple abilities, but can't have a second until all the living players receive one (so not very likely in this game).
! Mafia can't gain new abilities. The Day Phase will last 72 hours or until a lynch is achieved.
The Night Phase will last 48 hours or until all Night Actions have been sent in.
Players Left Alive
1.Shuhan
2.Wooden_Giraffe
3.Galaxy 9000
4.Stereo Mike
5.Pyrofrost
6.Bogart
7.Mrs. Iceburg
8.Gooner
9.Harvady Alumnus
It is now Day One. You have 72 hours to achieve a lynch. Vote Count: With nine alive it takes five to lynch.
Not Voting [9]: Shuhan, Wooden_Giraffe, Galaxy 9000, Stereo Mike, Pyrofrost, Bogart, Mrs. Iceburg, Gooner, Harvady Alumnus
You have a 7-sided die?
Its possible, I have a 20 sided die…
I have an 8 sided. If I roll an 8, I'll just reroll.
Stellar opening, guys.
Quick question for everyone, and I do want everyone to answer: "Do you think you will do more for the Town through your discussion or the possibility of power usage?"
It's a loaded question.
Personally not very good at sparking lucrative discussion, especially with what mafia scum hunting has degraded to in recent games, so I do hope I receive one of the first powers. Of course, considering my normal lack of luck with dice I will likely be most useful in analyzing others for potential fallacies.
And don't think you can get away without answering that question yourself Bogart.
Seeing as you are not guaranteed a power, this game would have to focus on discussion to get answers.
Question for everyone. How important do you think today is? Do you think its useless to do anything and just no lynch, or do you want to be active and discuss?
I hate when people say Day 1 is useless. Why waste a day by doing nothing, lets at least try to ask questions and lynch if possible
It's always possible lynch, the question is if it is a wise move or not. Baring any major slip-ups it will be for the most part random. Unless of course it is a lurker lynch, which has it's own drawbacks in such a short game.
@Mrs.:
He NEEDS us to lynch someone on D1
This was actually going to be my main argument if I decided to lynch someone. Guess I can't now.
To answer your question, Bogart, I make my own luck. I'll make the most of everything, ability or not.
The real question here is
(who) do we lynch today~
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This was actually going to be my main argument if I decided to lynch someone. Guess I can't now.
+1 Wooden
The only lynch I will ever support on the first day is a lurker, or somebody who gives up their role for some reason.
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Stellar opening, guys.
Quick question for everyone, and I do want everyone to answer: "Do you think you will do more for the Town through your discussion or the possibility of power usage?"
It's a loaded question.
Discussion definitely, because of the small chance of actually getting a power.
Opening D1 prior to a night phase always seems weird to me, but I guess the slightly crazy intrigue is what makes it fun?
I think someone not posting is a reasonable suspect, but given loong phases even that's a ways off.
Happy to check in as things progress and definitely keen to see if anyone gives them self up by mistake early.
Stellar opening, guys.
Quick question for everyone, and I do want everyone to answer: "Do you think you will do more for the Town through your discussion or the possibility of power usage?"
It's a loaded question.
In smaller games it doesn't seem as though power is a big thing. We just randomly lynch people until the group is thinned out. Then people reveal themselvse for protection and give information if they have it.
Seems like it's more used to clinch a victory in a smaller game, than actively playing an important role throughout the game.
Self-confidence in powers, or discussion?
! Galaxy 9000: Discussion
Gooner: No answer
Harvady Alumnus: Not posted
Mrs. Iceburg: Discussion
Pyrofrost: No answer
Shuhan: No answer
Stereo Mike: No answer
Wooden Giraffe: Powers
For those who have "no answer", some need to elaborate a bit on your reply. Emphasize "you" in this response, not the town in general. I am pro-discussion, myself.
The only lynch I will ever support on the first day is a lurker, or somebody who gives up their role for some reason.
If it's in town's best interest to lynch today, are you going to stick to that and not vote, even if a wagon that doesn't fit your criteria needs your vote?
In smaller games it doesn't seem as though power is a big thing. We just randomly lynch people until the group is thinned out.
Lynches never have to be random. Mafia is played without powers; getting people to slip up requires posts directed at them.
How important do you think today is? Do you think its useless to do anything and just no lynch, or do you want to be active and discuss?
Today's discussion drives the next day's. Waiting for powers is ridiculous, especially in this game where powers will be sparse and hard to track.
There is nothing to gain by no-lynching. Do we all agree with that statement?
There is nothing to gain by no-lynching. Do we all agree with that statement?
I agree aswell. I am also a supporter of random lynches, in fact I love lynches in general. Also Bogart to answer your previous question, I support not waiting around on Day one…so since none of us have powers on Day one I guess discussion is all we have.
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The only lynch I will ever support on the first day is a lurker
Would you vote for Harvady? He has yet to post so he could be considered a lurker at this moment. Taking someone like him out is a big move, do you have the balls for it?
Shuhan/Wooden: As seasoned vets around here, how much does players reputation play a factor in your decision making? Are you more wary of people because of how they've played in the past? Also new players, do they get a free pass?
I'm for a Lynch today, but only after and based on discussion (or lack thereof).
The only lynch I will ever support on the first day is a lurker, or somebody who gives up their role for some reason.
What would be a reason for someone to give up their role?
Shuhan/Wooden: As seasoned vets around here, how much does players reputation play a factor in your decision making? Are you more wary of people because of how they've played in the past? Also new players, do they get a free pass?
Experience doesn't come into play when roles are assigned, so they don't make me more or less wary. Though past experiences with does show their frequent tendencies. For instance you were worried about Harvy not posting yet, but he's never been a frequent poster. When does show up though his posts are normally long and often overflowing with relevant content. As for new players they don't get a free pass, maybe a bit of leniency but certainly not much, especially since we've had issues with veteran players making duplicate accounts.
@Mrs.:
What would be a reason for someone to give up their role?
Slips, you can only make them if you're already taking. It's why we frown on lurking so much.
Slips, you can only make them if you're already taking. It's why we frown on lurking so much.
How is that an answer? >.>
The first word was the answer, the rest was added on.
Would you vote for Harvady? He has yet to post so he could be considered a lurker at this moment. Taking someone like him out is a big move, do you have the balls for it?
I sure would.
Unless his lurking ends, I will advocate for his lynch. As I said, lurkers are one of two types of people that I will agree to lynch on the first day.
VoteLynch: Harvady Alumnus
Vote Count: With nine alive it takes five to lynch. Harvady Alumnus _[2]:****Galaxy 9000,_ Pyrofrost Galaxy 9000 [1]: Gooner Not Voting [6]: Shuhan, Wooden_Giraffe, Stereo Mike, Bogart, Mrs. Iceburg, Harvady Alumnus
I sure would.
Unless his lurking ends, I will advocate for his lynch. As I said, lurkers are one of two types of people that I will agree to lynch on the first day.VoteLynch: Harvady Alumnus
Something seems off about this whole shindig. I can't really pinpoint what it is or if its the wording but it just seems you voted a little…quick. Almost like someone who was pressured into doing it. I asked that question almost as bait in a way, and boy did you ever bite.
Vote Lynch: Galaxy9000
Lynches never have to be random. Mafia is played without powers; getting people to slip up requires posts directed at them.
1.) I did give my answer, though indirectly, it was disscussion.
2.) Lynches are random, unless you have the cop actually outting people. There is only so much information that can be taken from a scummy looking post. Then one or two votes go to the guy and the rest is a lynchwagon from people who are maf, players who have no ideas of their own, or players who just want to see a lynch happen. At least, that's what I see.
3.) I was thrown on the fryer last game for not posting day one…..so, Vote Lynch: Harvady Alumnus
Attention:
You now have less than 24 hours to lynch. Failure to do so will result in an automatic no lynch for the day. The choice is yours.
What are you saying Pyrofrost, that unless we have a Cop, there's nothing we can do to save the Town?
And Galaxy 9000, you haven't answered my question yet.
I'm a bit conflicted about lynching Harvady. It's annoying that he won't post, but the chance that he actually is Mafia is small. And if he gets lynched today, we have no Harvy for the rest of the game. But it could certainly be interesting to see what his flip brings at this point.
Anyway, to balance it out a bit, I'll add to the second wagon.
Vote Lynch: Galaxy 9000
@Mrs.:
What are you saying Pyrofrost, that unless we have a Cop, there's nothing we can do to save the Town?
No. What I am saying is, without a Cop dishing out confirmations, all we ever have to go on is suspicious activity (via things like: what's said in posts, a lack of posts, voting, and things like that). Though these things (suspicions and assumptions) you don't really know if you're casting a vote on Mafia or Town. That is what makes it random, the lack of an actual confirmation.
I'm also surprised you say that Harvady wouldn't likely be Mafia. He is just as likely to be one as anybody else.
I also find it funny that people were so quick to jump on me for day one; yet people are with Harvady not posting.
So I will ask everyone…Why is it ok to look over Harvady not posting; yet when I wasn't, it was a crime? Does he get exceptions or play by a different set of rules?
No. What I am saying is, without a Cop dishing out confirmations, all we ever have to go on is suspicious activity (via things like: what's said in posts, a lack of posts, voting, and things like that). Though these things (suspicions and assumptions) you don't really know if you're casting a vote on Mafia or Town. That is what makes it random, the lack of an actual confirmation.
"Based on reasoning and arguments" is not the same as "random". I'll agree that lynching someone a gamble, but it's never a random gamble. But now we're discussing semantics.
I'm also surprised you say that Harvady wouldn't likely be Mafia. He is just as likely to be one as anybody else.
Which is not very likely. A chance of 2 out of 9.
I also find it funny that people were so quick to jump on me for day one; yet people are with Harvady not posting.
So I will ask everyone…Why is it ok to look over Harvady not posting; yet when I wasn't, it was a crime? Does he get exceptions or play by a different set of rules?
It's a reputation thing. It isn't fair or logical, but it is understandable.
Now, time is running out. Those who haven't voted yet, please do.
Havardy lurking thus far is very unfortunate. He is a valuable asset as a townie and would be a shame to not have him in the coming days. However, if we are going to lynch a lurker it has to be today, I don't feel comfortable at all doing that later on in the game. Due to his reputation here(yes it's unfair, deal with it) I will delay voting for a few more hours in the hope that he shows up, but should he not I will not be afraid to hammer him if need be.
Vote Count: With nine alive it takes five to lynch.
Harvady Alumnus [2]:Galaxy 9000, Pyrofrost
Galaxy 9000 [2]: Gooner, Mrs. Iceburg
Not Voting [5]: Shuhan, Wooden_Giraffe, Stereo Mike, Bogart, Harvady Alumnus
Nobody wanted to be town leader? After all that leeway?
I must say, I am genuinely surprised at the votes on me. Not that there are votes, that's logical and typical and expected. That so many people stayed away this long. I thought for sure that this was the best opportunity that people had to cut me loose.
Mafia knows whether or not I'm mafia. Why wouldn't they just jump on me for being absent so long? Did they know that's what I wanted?
Galaxy 9000: You voted me, but by the looks of your stance, you'll be getting off my wagon if I'm chatty enough? Did you want to vote me, or is this a policy lynch? Would you say that I provoked you into voting me? Because now there's a wagon on you, and it's not based on inactivity, but activity.
Gooner: I suppose that there's less point in asking now. It does seem apparent that you instigated Galaxy's vote. It seems like you did what I was going to do. Do you think that there's mafia on my wagon of two?
Mrs. Iceburg: I was conflicted as to how to start this game. I was strongly considering showing up and saying the D1 was a lost-cause and voting NL. Just to shake things up. Because I can see that people have some strong reservations about me. Flatterers~
I appreciate that you continued a wagon, but is this who you wanted to vote? Is there nothing left to be discussed?
Bogart: Do you believe that I've 'derailed' D1? Not all of the posts were about me, but I've clearly justified a wagon by being absent. If I'm as town as I think I am, is this helping the mafia? Also, discussion over powers.
Wooden Giraffe: A NL would be bad. That's my stance. This means that I will vote, and the best way to secure a lynch would be to vote on a wagon that is already established. Now that I'm here, would you rather vote Galaxy 9000 or me? Do you think that there's someone else who should be voted?
Pyrofrost: Galaxy could very well be lynched for voting of all things. Did you want a lynch today? Are you voting me solely because I haven't spoken? Does this mean you'll change wagons?
Shuhan: You've said less than I have at this point. Ha. Do you think my gambit is reckless? Has my strategy fallen apart simply because I'm the one who's using it? Is it possible for me to go 'wild', or I am just being a 'Harvady'?
Stereo Mike: If I gave you the reigns, no responsibility or liability, who would you vote? Would you want to vote? Do you think that your level of activity is more or less disruptive than mine?
I believe we have less than half a day left. Not a lot of time to build a new wagon. (Or to respond to Harvady-come-lately) In support of lynches, I shall vote. Since I'm not voting myself, well…
Vote Lynch: Galaxy 9000
@Harvady:
Nobody wanted to be town leader? After all that leeway?
Pyrofrost: Galaxy could very well be lynched for voting of all things. Did you want a lynch today? Are you voting me solely because I haven't spoken? Does this mean you'll change wagons?
I think it's a load of BS, however I can see how some of the players (yes, it is plural) here work now; and I believe I've seen enough. Also, my vote stays, even though I'm almost 100% certain the will wagon follow you.
@Harvady:
Wooden Giraffe: A NL would be bad. That's my stance. This means that I will vote, and the best way to secure a lynch would be to vote on a wagon that is already established. Now that I'm here, would you rather vote Galaxy 9000 or me? Do you think that there's someone else who should be voted?
So are you saying you lurked for approximately 60 hours for the sole purpose of trying to draw out votes on yourself? If this were your real goal, why not wait a bit longer? You still had half a day(real time) and only 2 had voted for you so far.
Personally I wasn't convinced of your guilt by any means but i figured I could use your absence for at least some kind of value. You're right that it makes sense that the mafia would be all over you if you were in fact town. That's why I offered to hammer you figuring the mafia would jump at the chance for the offered vote.
Yet no one jumped.
This could mean a few things,
1)The mafia could be very conservative and unwilling to take any chances.
2)The mafia already had one person on your wagon.
3)You're a mafia.
Clearly you are assuming (2) to be the case here, which makes sense since you'd never admit to (3) and assuming (1) gets us nowhere.
I can't quite see it being Galaxy since it would be a rather risky move to be the first on a lurker wagon targeting you and Pyrofrost's reasons for voting you are certainly understandable considering the double standard we hold on certain players. Was really hoping someone else would jump on your wagon, which seems to be what you were also waiting for. This begs the question, why didn't you?
Vote Lynch: Harvady Alumnus
Sorry I missed your post IceQueen, here is my reply
@Mrs.:
"Based on reasoning and arguments" is not the same as "random". I'll agree that lynching someone a gamble, but it's never a random gamble. But now we're discussing semantics.
You ask for an answer and criticize me for it, you welcome Mrs.
The fact that lynches are based of half-assed assumptions and suspicions….oh excuse me, I mean "reasoning and argument" psht. Good lord.
You want to know what's petty? You asking for clarification on my view, then criticizing and acting like what goes on in the day phase is something more grandiose.
@Mrs.:
Which is not very likely. A chance of 2 out of 9.
Which still means, as likely as anyone else.
@Mrs.:
It's a reputation thing. It isn't fair or logical, but it is understandable.
Now, time is running out. Those who haven't voted yet, please do.
Lets call a spade, a spade Mrs. and I was alluding to this in my reply to Harvady; it's called playing favorites, favoritism, preferential treatment, partiality, bias, etc, etc, etc. No need to sugar coat it.
