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    One Piece Mafia: Part II

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      Vote Count: With eight alive it takes five to lynch.
      Tyrone Pines [1]: Harvady Alumnus Holygamer999 [1]: Gooner Not Voting [6]: Shuhan, Holygamer999, Stereo Mike, Pyrofrost, Mrs. Iceburg, Tyrone Pines

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        Gotta say Harvady I appreciate you're desire to get the day moving. I see a lot of myself in you, that drive to say listen up people we need to make a move here.

        Vote Lynch: Holygamer999 Now it's my turn to say "listen up people we need to make a move here"

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          @Shuhan:

          aww you're sweet~
          I never understood though, what did Iceberg have to do with me? Is this still connected to how I voted Pyro instead of her?

          Essentially. Based on you choice, I inferred you were allying yourself with whomever you did not vote. That's based on your vote and the one other thing you two had in common, your 'softclaims'. It did not appear to be a coincidence.

          Day one had a lot of people saying that there was no other outcome but a No Lynch. By that logic, people claimed that the next day would be the start of everything. If the NL voters are turning up their game today, I don't see much of a difference.

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            Shuhan has been one of the more forward voters, he has some bias of his own, but it won't be relevant until I hear more from Mrs. Iceburg. Shuhan remains forward, however no major revelations nor suspects.

            I agree.

            Gooner is a bandwagoner who hasn't said much of anything. He's being really laying low and that is not a good thing. I appreciate his vote. Gooner continues to play pseudo-aggressive. He reaches for attention, then fades away.

            He's one of the most suspicious to me. I don't know what he was trying to accomplish with his claim. He also seems to to avoid answering questions directed at him.

            Galaxy 9000 is an anti-townie. He communicates to town of the lack of information it has and implies that there is no recourse to it. His only active move was to vote No Lynch. Galaxy 9000 is dead. I for one, do not see any reasoning behind his killing beyond the typical 'lack of protection/attention'. Town benefits from the removal of his desire to not-lynch. Sadly he did not leave us with any suspects of his own.

            Agree.

            Mrs. Iceburg's actions are similar to Galaxy 9000, but she doesn't have the same level of activity he does. She's posted twice and wrote off the day as fluffy. She talks like she would have helped the lynch wagon, but votes in the opposite direction. Mrs. Iceburg has changed since yesterday. This change is easily reflected from her stance on 'Day Ones'.

            Agree with this, too.

            Tyrone Pines and his backtracking is completely unacceptable. I was going to chalk up his inaction to typical Day One bias, but if the Pyrofrost wagon fails, I will move all of my attention on Tyrone. Like Mrs. Iceburg, he speaks about wanting a lynch, then does everything possible to destroy town's only chance at a lynch. Voted.

            I completely disagree with this!!1! 😠

            Holygamer999 has also been 'actively' inactive. Very few posts at all, and no suspects or theories of his own. His acceptance of Pyrofrost's inactivity is bad for town. Holygamer999 has emerged as a reactionary poster. No investigations of his own.

            Holygamer really hasn't added much yet, despite posting more than others. Although this is ironic coming from me, seeing as how I haven't contributed anything at all yet…

            Stereo Mike has contributed just as much as Pyro, Holy, and Iceburg. Which is to say next to nothing. Stereo Mike has yet to take a stance, not unlike his play yesterday. Not enough activity to make a proper read.

            Agree.

            Pyrofrost still has yet to contribute anything useful. I'd like to hear his suspicions, and I'd rather not wait until the end of the day phase.

            Right now, the people I suspect the most are Gooner, Pyrofrost, and Stereo Mike.

            I apologize for being so useless thus far, but I always feel like most of what I have to say has already been said. 😕 I regret now not lynching Pyrofrost, and I won't be so quick to make judgements today.

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              @Shuhan:

              Firstly I do apologize for my rude words…I tend to go wild sometimes...like Harvady has said before. I don't want to be the one to turn you off from the game here...

              That being said, it makes me angry when someone says they have something to contribute but then goes nah I'm keeping it to myself. We have virtually noting to go on and basically are spinning our wheels. Any info that is worth sharing is important.

              I accept your apology, and I also apologize for not being open or active as I should be. So please know that I hold nothing personally against you. I'm still getting used to this style of mafia, and I'm also not able to stay on the threads like mad to post. While I will be posting, I do ask for a little understanding in the fact that I can't constantly be on.

              Also, since you were kind. I also concede and I will give my ideas.

              #1 Harvady: The fact that he is still alive alone is giving me suspicions. Either he is mafia or mafia assumed the medic would be smart enough to be on him due to his pro-activity. If he is mafia, he is being smart playing the role of a highly active townie. If he is town, he is clearly mafia's biggest threat at this point.

              #2 Tyrone: Not only was his backtracking on me yesterday suspicious, it was also completely unnecessary; as my lynch vote count would have stayed at 4/5 and I would have been safe. Pulling back on his vote didn't save me. While it could be seen as a gesture of kindness, it really only makes me more suspicious of him.

              #3 Holygamer999: He was simply far too easy going and accepting of my inactivity than he should have been. He didn't question me or act the slightest bit aggressive once I arrived. As a style that seems to be centered around player activity, I find this completely odd. He could have very well given the final vote, which I deserved. In all honesty, if the situation were reversed, I would have given that vote. I should have been lynched yesterday, I deserved it and I'm willing to admit that. So why wasn't I. Was this simply an act of kindness or something more.

              #4 Stereo Mike: I'm sorry bro, I know we're mates, but I can't go without suspecting you. You are posting every once and a while, but you're being TOO cautious. Your lack of ideas, and the lack of suggesting you have any ideas is really glaring to me.

              My suspicions at this point are mostly pointed to Tyrone and Holygamer. However, I will not give my vote without a bit more consideration. My first vote will be my final vote, and I do guarantee a lynch vote to someone during this day phase.

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                Why are all your usernames so alike. This is super confusing.

                About your statements, Harvy. I guess they are roughly accurate observations. Nothing exciting. Or, in other words, no actual suspects except for the one you announced yesterday.

                Shuhan. You have been fishing. You asked me if I thought the Doc was on Harvy - a pointless question - and then later (when you called out on Pyrofrost for not sharing) whined that we have so little to go on and we need all the information we have. Do you want the Doc and Cop to claim? Does that seem like a good idea to you?

                Gooner. So far you pointed to as much as three people as your suspects in one day phase (you pointed fingers at Harvady and Pyrofrost, but are now voting Holygamer). Are you going a little wild to prevent people from going after you instead?

                Holygamer
                I want you to list everyone and arrange them from most suspicious to least suspicious to you.

                Harvady, I want you to do the same.

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                  In class till 2:30 est. Will make decent post after.

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                    @Harvady:

                    Essentially. Based on you choice, I inferred you were allying yourself with whomever you did not vote. That's based on your vote and the one other thing you two had in common, your 'softclaims'. It did not appear to be a coincidence.

                    Day one had a lot of people saying that there was no other outcome but a No Lynch. By that logic, people claimed that the next day would be the start of everything. If the NL voters are turning up their game today, I don't see much of a difference.

                    So what has come of this, has your opinion changed?

                    @Pyrofrost:

                    I accept your apology, and I also apologize for not being open or active as I should be. So please know that I hold nothing personally against you. I'm still getting used to this style of mafia, and I'm also not able to stay on the threads like mad to post. While I will be posting, I do ask for a little understanding in the fact that I can't constantly be on.

                    Also, since you were kind. I also concede and I will give my ideas.

                    #1 Harvady: The fact that he is still alive alone is giving me suspicions. Either he is mafia or mafia assumed the medic would be smart enough to be on him due to his pro-activity. If he is mafia, he is being smart playing the role of a highly active townie. If he is town, he is clearly mafia's biggest threat at this point.

                    #2 Tyrone: Not only was his backtracking on me yesterday suspicious, it was also completely unnecessary; as my lynch vote count would have stayed at 4/5 and I would have been safe. Pulling back on his vote didn't save me. While it could be seen as a gesture of kindness, it really only makes me more suspicious of him.

                    #3 Holygamer999: He was simply far too easy going and accepting of my inactivity than he should have been. He didn't question me or act the slightest bit aggressive once I arrived. As a style that seems to be centered around player activity, I find this completely odd. He could have very well given the final vote, which I deserved. In all honesty, if the situation were reversed, I would have given that vote. I should have been lynched yesterday, I deserved it and I'm willing to admit that. So why wasn't I. Was this simply an act of kindness or something more.

                    #4 Stereo Mike: I'm sorry bro, I know we're mates, but I can't go without suspecting you. You are posting every once and a while, but you're being TOO cautious. Your lack of ideas, and the lack of suggesting you have any ideas is really glaring to me.

                    My suspicions at this point are mostly pointed to Tyrone and Holygamer. However, I will not give my vote without a bit more consideration. My first vote will be my final vote, and I do guarantee a lynch vote to someone during this day phase.

                    Good, glad to know there is know bad blood…totally goes against my "Love and Tolerate" mantra 😁
                    This is definitely a step in the right direction.
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                    Shuhan. You have been fishing. You asked me if I thought the Doc was on Harvy - a pointless question - and then later (when you called out on Pyrofrost for not sharing) whined that we have so little to go on and we need all the information we have. Do you want the Doc and Cop to claim? Does that seem like a good idea to you?

                    I have not been fishing, just asked a question to affirm something. Don't twist me into a fisher for roles to suit your own needs. I berated pyro because he wasn't sharing his suspects, nothing more.

                    As for do I want the cop and doc to claim, hell no. It would be a different matter if there was no blocker. If there wasn't, the cop could safely come out in the open and the doc would be silently protecting him/her. This is not the case.

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                      After more thought, this "I'm not a crook" statement doesn't sit well with me. I could be simply over-thinking this though. I would like to know what the other players think of this.

                      @Gooner:

                      I'll claim now, I am a regular Townsperson.

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                        To answer your question Pyro, the reason why I wasn't against you day 1 is simply because you are new this thread (maybe not the game, but definitely the thread and how things are run). It's the same thing with how Shuhan apologized earlier saying he didn't want to chase you away fom here. Since this is your first game here, I didn't think it would be right for us to kill u off on the first day with no other evidence except that u were late. If it had been a non new player or you hadn't shown up at all, then I would have voted for lynch as well. But u did, and I didn't wanna be a jerk and kill off the new guy. However, now that you are more familiar with things and you have had some time here, there are no more pardons for anything you might say or do in the future.

                        Now in terms of Iceburgs and Harvadys questions, I have every intention of answering them (as well as asking a couple of questions of my own that should that I think may have been overlooked). However, I humbly ask that you wait till tommorow for them (in real life est), as 1, I won't have access to my computer today and am currently typing from my very slow iPhone, 2, I have a lot of things I need to do today (find out how to get 2 dozen puppies onto a college campus legally, run a campus wide celebration, ect.), and 3 and most important, my girlfriend is going to be spending the night at my place tonight, and she will beat my rear end if I'm up typing for mafia (or doing anything else for that matter) and not spending time with her. Thanks, and I'll try to be as concise and clear as I can be tommorow.

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                          @Tyrone:

                          I completely disagree with this!!1! 😠

                          What are you disagreeing with?

                          @Tyrone:

                          I don't know. 😕 I guess I would consider someone inactive if they didn't post for a whole day phase.

                          I also think it would be best to lynch someone. I'd rather not waste the first day like the last times I played. >_>

                          @Tyrone:

                          Yeah, I agree with Shuhan. Unless Pyro shows up, they're the only one we have any good reason to lynch, and if we don't lynch anyone today, we might still not have anything to go on tomorrow.

                          Vote Lynch: Pyrofrost

                          @Tyrone:

                          Unvote

                          I'd still rather not No Lynch, but it looks like there's no choice. 😕

                          @Tyrone:

                          Vote Lynch: No Lynch

                          I was going to wait longer to see if anyone had any more ideas, but oh well. I'd rather just get the day over with at this point.

                          @Tyrone:

                          Sorry, Harvady, I still would rather lynch someone than not, but I still don't see much of a reason to vote Pyrofrost. And besides, if I did so now, I would just be accused of more "backtracking" and be labelled as scummy. I'll admit that perhaps I acted too quickly. If you gave me a better reason for lynching Pyro than coming late, than I might still reconsider, but your determination to get rid of him/her is what's suspicious to me, if anything.

                          Pyro was at L-1. You got off, making it L-2. Then you voted for the opposite wagon. How does that remotely make sense? I have color coded your statements to show your hypocrisy.

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                          @Mrs.:

                          I want you to list everyone and arrange them from most suspicious to least suspicious to you.

                          Harvady, I want you to do the same.

                          When you do global lists and reads, THIS happens:
                          @Shuhan:

                          I completely agree with this reasoning.

                          I agree with this one as well.

                          agree…

                          aaaaaand, agree...

                          @Tyrone:

                          I agree.

                          Agree.

                          Agree with this, too.

                          I completely disagree with this!!1! 😠

                          Agree.

                          (I did some paraphrasing to prove my point, but it's nice and blatant now.)

                          I don't see what you think this will accomplish. Only the first list is valid, and you asked Holygamer999 first. Everyone else will play the 'agree' game.

                          Why are you asking me for this list? Do you think I am not forthcoming with my reads? I gave reads on all of town yesterday, and again today. That's the only way I got these quotes.

                          I voted both days. It's pretty obvious who I want lynched. It's not so obvious who you want lynched.

                          Also, why did you softclaim on D1?

                          Also, also, you make a list.

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                            @Harvady:

                            What are you disagreeing with?

                            Pyro was at L-1. You got off, making it L-2. Then you voted for the opposite wagon. How does that remotely make sense? I have color coded your statements to show your hypocrisy.

                            The disagreeing part was just supposed to be a joke, due to the comments being about me. :I

                            I recognize that I messed up on Day 1, and I apologize for it.

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                              @Tyrone:

                              The disagreeing part was just supposed to be a joke, due to the comments being about me. :I

                              I recognize that I messed up on Day 1, and I apologize for it.

                              Why do you regret it now? Is it because Harvady is against you?

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                              Tyrone stick up for yourself man. Do what you believe but this constant not making up your mind and essentially flip-flopping is weak sauce. And to be quite honest the sign of someone who doesn't want to mess up...with something to hide...in other words, mafia.

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                                When is the day going to end? I'm going to be busy the next 36 hours and I want to be around when stuff happens :<

                                @Harvady:

                                When you do global lists and reads, THIS happens:

                                (I did some paraphrasing to prove my point, but it's nice and blatant now.)

                                I don't see what you think this will accomplish. Only the first list is valid, and you asked Holygamer999 first. Everyone else will play the 'agree' game.

                                What are you trying to say? You want everyone to be concrete except for you?
                                What makes you think Holygamer's list will influence yours, or the other way around?

                                @Harvady:

                                Why are you asking me for this list? Do you think I am not forthcoming with my reads? I gave reads on all of town yesterday, and again today. That's the only way I got these quotes.

                                I voted both days. It's pretty obvious who I want lynched. It's not so obvious who you want lynched.

                                Also, why did you softclaim on D1?

                                Also, also, you make a list.

                                It's not so obvious who I want lynched because I'm not a 100% certain myself. And what do you mean soft-claimed?

                                And what makes you think people will play the agreeing game with my list?

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                                Seriously I can NOT tell you guys apart.

                                Gooner, this is the second time I'm addressing you. You're accusing Tyrone of flip-flopping, but aren't you doing the same thing? I'm referring to the question I asked you earlier.

                                Tyrone Pines, give us some reads. Anyone looking scummy to you?

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                                  @Gooner:

                                  Why do you regret it now? Is it because Harvady is against you?

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                                  Tyrone stick up for yourself man. Do what you believe but this constant not making up your mind and essentially flip-flopping is weak sauce. And to be quite honest the sign of someone who doesn't want to mess up...with something to hide...in other words, mafia.

                                  Not really because of Harvady, I just realized today that it would have been better if Pyrofrost had been lynched. I know I've been really inconsistent so far, but I was just trying to be fair to Pyro yesterday. I guess I'm a bit too forgiving sometimes.

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                                    @Harvady:

                                    When you do global lists and reads, THIS happens:

                                    to be fair, you did ask us to agree or disagree…

                                    I like flip flops...I wear them all the time. I wear them to drop my son off at work, I wear them to shower in the gym bathroom. The only time I don't like flip flops is when it's a person that doesn't seem to know what he wants.

                                    vote lynch: Tyrone Pines

                                    also, once again you have nice wording in your posts…sounds like you're giving a nice pep talk to you're buddy~

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                                    also, Gooner, once again you have nice wording in your posts…sounds like you're giving a nice pep talk to you're buddy~

                                    needed to fix that…

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                                      So, Shuhan, your Maf team is Gooner and Tyrone Pines?

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                                        @Mrs.:

                                        Tyrone Pines, give us some reads. Anyone looking scummy to you?

                                        Like I said earlier, the ones I find the most suspicious are Gooner, Pyrofrost, and Stereo Mike.

                                        I find it hard to understand just what Gooner wants. First, he talks about how he thinks Harvady and Pyrofrost are scummy, then he randomly votes Holygamer without giving any reason for it. He's my top suspect currently.

                                        Pyrofrost's posts have been rather empty and unhelpful, although he has finally started telling us his thoughts today.

                                        Stereo Mike has been the most inactive. I can't really tell much from his posts, but he also hasn't given us anything useful.

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                                          @Mrs.:

                                          So, Shuhan, your Maf team is Gooner and Tyrone Pines?

                                          I believe that is what I am implying yes.

                                          Gooner has had a string of interesting posts, but that last one was down right odd. Why passively defend Tyrone by giving him self esteem advice? In a game where trust is suspect, why tell people how to defend themselves? That can be interpreted as maf trying to boost morale

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                                            Vote Count: With eight alive it takes five to lynch.
                                            Tyrone Pines [2]: Harvady Alumnus, Shuhan
                                            Holygamer999 [3]: Gooner, Pyrofrost**, Mrs. Iceburg**
                                            Not Voting [3]: Holygamer999, Stereo Mike, Tyrone Pines

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                                              ….Iceburg how have I flip-flopped? I said it was puzzling why Harvady is still alive...that is puzzling even he admits it. Pyrofrost should've died Day 1.

                                              I haven't wavered from either stance.

                                              Now as to why I voted Holygamer. Well in my experience playing mafia the most obvious targets (Pyrofrost/Tyrone) never turn out to be actual mafia just foolish townies. Mafia are much more discreet and try their utmost to blend in and not ruffle any feathers. They try to remain neutral as much as possible...they don't talk to much in fear of giving out valuable info but they also post just enough to let you know they are around. Their posts are full of fluff to lead you off the beaten path...

                                              Hence Holygamer999

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                                              @Shuhan:

                                              Gooner has had a string of interesting posts, but that last one was down right odd. Why passively defend Tyrone by giving him self esteem advice? In a game where trust is suspect, why tell people how to defend themselves? That can be interpreted as maf trying to boost morale

                                              Make no mistake about it I have no qualms about putting my vote on Tyrone. If thats what its gonna take for us to achieve a lynch I will do it. Do not question my rashness and ability to act in such haste.

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                                                @Mrs.:

                                                What are you trying to say? You want everyone to be concrete except for you?

                                                What do you mean by concrete? I voted Pyrofrost and I voted Tyrone Pines. Tyrone has the most negative play, and if his avoidance is indicative of anything, it would be that he was keeping Pyro alive

                                                It's not as though they're the only two scummy ones. But I still don't pursue more than two at a time.

                                                @Mrs.:

                                                What makes you think Holygamer's list will influence yours, or the other way around?

                                                It's not that it will, it's that he can choose to. I've been giving reads on people, voting, all that good stuff. People can just agree without coming up with reads of their own. It's giving people an excuse to stay silent. Although it's not as though I can encourage people to talk by being quiet either.

                                                @Mrs.:

                                                It's not so obvious who I want lynched because I'm not a 100% certain myself. And what do you mean soft-claimed?

                                                You and Shuhan both softclaimed 'vanilla blue' on D1. Why?

                                                @Mrs.:

                                                And what makes you think people will play the agreeing game with my list?

                                                It's not whether they play the game with you, it's whether you play the game with me.

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                                                  Iceberg asked Holygamer a pretty simple question.
                                                  Did the same of Harvady, though he has been openly giving his opinion. He stayed on me yesterday, has been on Tyrone today, he has already also mentioned suspicion of Iceberg since yesterday.
                                                  @Mrs.:

                                                  Holygamer, I want you to list everyone and arrange them from most suspicious to least suspicious to you.

                                                  Harvady, I want you to do the same.

                                                  He gives an acceptable "for the moment" answer.
                                                  @Holygamer999:

                                                  In class till 2:30 est. Will make decent post after.

                                                  He shows up later to ONLY address me and give a list of excuses on why he couldn't answer Iceberg's or Harvadys questions.
                                                  @Holygamer999:

                                                  To answer your question Pyro, the reason why I wasn't against you day 1 is simply because you are new this thread (maybe not the game, but definitely the thread and how things are run). It's the same thing with how Shuhan apologized earlier saying he didn't want to chase you away fom here. Since this is your first game here, I didn't think it would be right for us to kill u off on the first day with no other evidence except that u were late. If it had been a non new player or you hadn't shown up at all, then I would have voted for lynch as well. But u did, and I didn't wanna be a jerk and kill off the new guy. However, now that you are more familiar with things and you have had some time here, there are no more pardons for anything you might say or do in the future.

                                                  Now in terms of Iceburgs and Harvadys questions, I have every intention of answering them (as well as asking a couple of questions of my own that should that I think may have been overlooked). However, I humbly ask that you wait till tommorow for them (in real life est), as 1, I won't have access to my computer today and am currently typing from my very slow iPhone, 2, I have a lot of things I need to do today (find out how to get 2 dozen puppies onto a college campus legally, run a campus wide celebration, ect.), and 3 and most important, my girlfriend is going to be spending the night at my place tonight, and she will beat my rear end if I'm up typing for mafia (or doing anything else for that matter) and not spending time with her. Thanks, and I'll try to be as concise and clear as I can be tommorow.

                                                  First of all, in the amount of time he spent typing those excuses, he could have easily made a top 8 list of suspects and said agree/disagree to Harvady's points. In fact, I argue that it would have taken him less time to answer than to make his excuses.
                                                  Not only that, but he takes the time to address me. I didn't ask him anything. I was simply sharing what was bouncing around in my mind.
                                                  So why was answering to me more important than answering Iceberg's question and answering Harvady's question or coming up with ideas of his own?
                                                  (which would have taken him less time than addressing me and making excuses).

                                                  Vote Lynch: Lynch Holygamer999

                                                  With 2 now on Tyrone, and 2 now on Holygamer…there are enough players not counting Holygamer to send this day phase in one direction of the other. Regardless of who chooses whom, my vote is staying with my suspicion here.

                                                  So Tyrone Pines, Mrs. Iceberg, and Stereo Mike….what say you?

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                                                    Ice_burg_, Pyro.

                                                    I've only got a few minutes before I'm gone again for a while, so I'll get to the point.

                                                    Holygamer999 has been my top suspect today and yesterday. He was the only one who persistently seemed scummy in my eyes. He has been going along easily, feigning activity. I'm glad to see a lynchwagon start on him and I'm going to join it.
                                                    The whole batch of new guys is slightly confusing me (not just cause of the usernames), but thus far they haven't done or said anything to make me think they are Mafia - other than be inactive or indecisive. I'm not entirely certain about them, so I'd like to go after those who irk me more first. Should Holy flip Town, I could consider suspecting one of them.
                                                    Shuhan and Harvady Alumnus share a second place on my suspect list (not included as such for my own physical benefit). However, them openly flirting with eachother makes it hard to believe they're both Maf together. So it's either of them for Holygamer's scumbuddy at this moment.

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                                                      @Harvady:

                                                      Shuhan remains forward, however no major revelations nor suspects.

                                                      Shuhan is being Shuhan. Always on top of things and searching for scum. I think at this point he has revealed his suspicions and even voted for Tyrone

                                                      @Harvady:

                                                      Gooner continues to play pseudo-aggressive. He reaches for attention, then fades away.

                                                      It sounds to me like Gooner uses this playstyle a lot. However, he has also said some pretty weird stuff in the past. Kinda also fits in a bit with the comments I made on Galaxy below.
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                                                      Galaxy 9000 is dead. I for one, do not see any reasoning behind his killing beyond the typical 'lack of protection/attention'. Town benefits from the removal of his desire to not-lynch. Sadly he did not leave us with any suspects of his own.

                                                      I disagree. Near the end of D1, he was the first one to jump on Tyrone yesterday when Tyrone went on the Pyrofrost band wagon. The only one after that was Harvady, and if Tyrone is mafia he probably figured Galaxy would be easier. This is all circumstantial of course, but it's what i noticed.
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                                                      Mrs. Iceburg has changed since yesterday. This change is easily reflected from her stance on 'Day Ones'.

                                                      I'm not sure I see what you mean. Maybe she's a little more active today than she was yesterday, but that really could be said of anyone.

                                                      @Harvady:

                                                      Tyrone Pines Voted.

                                                      I also am very suspicious of him, and shared my thoughts in the Galaxy part of this post. Also agree with the points Harvady brought up.

                                                      @Harvady:

                                                      Holygamer999 has emerged as a reactionary poster. No investigations of his own.

                                                      I didn't think I could of said anything useful, and it was the first day. However, I do and am saying my suspicions now.

                                                      @Harvady:

                                                      Stereo Mike has yet to take a stance, not unlike his play yesterday. Not enough activity to make a proper read.

                                                      He's been pretty infrequent, and I cant think of anything tat really stands out about him at the moment.

                                                      @Mrs.:

                                                      Holygamerhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8j14kvUGW1rauqjzo1_400.gif
                                                      I want you to list everyone and arrange them from most suspicious to least suspicious to you.

                                                      Ok, so to sum up my list from most to least:
                                                      Tyrone Pines
                                                      Gooner
                                                      Stereo Mike
                                                      Mrs. Iceburg
                                                      Pyrofrost
                                                      Shuhan
                                                      Harvady

                                                      Also I missed that earlier question of yours about Gooner. To answer, yes it does bother me that he became suddenly hot headed. However, Tyrone just looks more scummy in my eyes, and again I'm not that sure of Gooners playstyle.
                                                      As such, I am also voting:
                                                      Vote Lynch: Tyrone Pines

                                                      Now as for my own question:
                                                      Tyrone. I would be a hypocrite for not asking you about your playstyle since I've never played with you as well. Is this how you normally have acted in past games? If so, why? If not, then tell me how you ususally act (you mentioned early in game that you've made mistakes in the past)? Same question for Gooner

                                                      Stereo, what is your take on Tyrone and myself?

                                                      Finally, as a note to Pyrofrost I was very busy yesterday handling a bunch of things at my college (I pretty much explained this earlier), and it would of actually been harder for me to make that list and answer all those questions than to respond to you. This whole post itself has taken me about 2 hours to write, and I was only able to do it because I had the time and my computer (unlike yesterday when I was running all over the place and only had my Iphone. I just happened to notice your comment when I was on a bus between towns yesterday and felt that I might as well respond as well as state that I would answer all questions that were asked of me the next day (which I just did).

                                                      So there you go, all my innermost thoughts at your display. Hopefully it helps.

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                                                        Vote Count: With eight alive it takes five to lynch.
                                                        Tyrone Pines [3]: Harvady Alumnus, Shuhan, Holygamer999,
                                                        Holygamer999 [3]: Gooner, Pyrofrost, Mrs. Iceburg
                                                        Not Voting [3]: Stereo Mike, Tyrone Pines

                                                        Twelve hours left. I can't expect Tyrone to vote himself, meaning the best we'll get is four and four. If Tyrone does manage to get a vote in, it'll be for Holy.

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                                                          Now as for my own question:
                                                          Tyrone. I would be a hypocrite for not asking you about your playstyle since I've never played with you as well. Is this how you normally have acted in past games? If so, why? If not, then tell me how you ususally act (you mentioned early in game that you've made mistakes in the past)? Same question for Gooner

                                                          I have only played in two very short games so far, so I wouldn't say I'm really experienced at all. I pretty much acted the same way I am now in those games. I'm not very confident, and that was quite obvious on the first day when I couldn't decide what I wanted. That usually just makes me appear to be scummy, though. 😕

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                                                            I guess that's that then. Man im rusty. You got me 😄

                                                            To be fair though, I wasn't lying about pyrofrost (its actually the reason I didn't kill him instead of Galaxy), and I really was busy yesterday. Damn though, two hours of the typing above just for no one to read it. Thanks. But in any case, good job

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                                                              Vote Count: With eight alive it takes five to lynch.
                                                              Tyrone Pines [1]: Shuhan
                                                              Holygamer999 [[COLOR=#ff0000]5]: Gooner, Pyrofrost**, Mrs. Iceburg,** Harvady Alumnus, Tyrone Pines
                                                              Not Voting [2]: Holygamer999, Stereo Mike **Lynch has been achieved. Day Two has ended.

                                                              Holygamer999** has been lynched. He was the Mafia Roleblocker. Once a night he could select a target. That target's ability would fail. Players Left Alive 1. Shuhan
                                                              2. Stereo Mike
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                                                              4. Mrs. Iceburg
                                                              5. Tyrone Pines
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                                                              It is now Night Two. You have 48 hours to send in any and all Night Actions.

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                                                                _Night Two has ended._
                                                                Gooner has been killed. He was a Townsperson- he had no special abilities.Players Left Alive 1. Shuhan
                                                                2. Stereo Mike
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                                                                ****Vote Count: With six alive it takes four to lynch. **Not Voting [6]: Shuhan, Stereo Mike, **Pyrofrost, Mrs. Iceburg, _Tyrone Pines,_Harvady Alumnus It is now Day Three. You have 72 hours to achieve a lynch.********__

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                                                                  Cop claim and give your reports…now...

                                                                  ​please…

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                                                                    Shuhan, you've been too in the shadows with your ideas, not making any straightforward claims of your own. You've basically been riding Harvady's coat-tail the entire game.

                                                                    Lynch Vote: Lynch Shuhan

                                                                    (nothing personal)

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                                                                      It's true, I've been letting Harv run the show, but I have far been riding his coat tails…

                                                                      All should be made clear when the cop claims. Without the blocker, the cop is safe.

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                                                                        Well, I guess I was wrong about Gooner. I really hope the cop speaks up soon.

                                                                        Pyrofrost, why were you so quick to target Shuhan? I thought you said on Day 2 you didn't like to rush the vote.

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                                                                          With Gooner gone, that's six left. We've got one mafia and five town. To be precise, town has a cop, a doc, and three 'blues'.

                                                                          Best case scenario, the cop has (a guilty report) their two innocent reports on people who are not the Doctor. That makes four cleared suspects. Leaving us with only two to vote between.

                                                                          So the Cop needs to come forward. If we don't need to out the doc unnecessarily, then let's not. We're just waiting for a cop. Because it's not me.

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                                                                            Shuhan [1]: Pyrofrost Not Voting [5]: Shuhan, Stereo Mike, Mrs. Iceburg, Tyrone Pines, Harvady Alumnus

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                                                                              Alright boys, I have some disappointing news. I'm the Cop (that's not the disappointing part).

                                                                              On the first Night I investigated… Holygamer. Lots of fun for me, but that doesn't help us today.
                                                                              Before you ask: I didn't claim yesterday because at first I wanted to have a little party before I came out, and then I saw the wagon start, so I thought it would be better if I just joined in and kept my mouth shut.

                                                                              Last Night, I investigated someone who turned out to be Town. I'm quite reluctant to reveal his identity, as doing so would be signing his death warrant, and we won't be any further on Day 4.

                                                                              I suggest the following strategy: we lynch someone today (hopefully not the person I investigated - I will come forward with my report if that does threaten to happen). If the person we lynch is Mafia, the game ends. If he's not, I'll investigate someone else tonight and reveal both my reports tomorrow. I'm sure to live another Night and get another report through considering the Doc is still alive, and the Roleblocker is dead.

                                                                              I hope I didn't mess anything up. For obvious reasons I won't put down a vote for the time being.

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                                                                                Alright boys, I have some disappointing news. I'm the Cop (that's not the disappointing part).

                                                                                On the first Night I investigated… Holygamer. Lots of fun for me, but that doesn't help us today.
                                                                                Before you ask: I didn't claim yesterday because at first I wanted to have a little party before I came out, and then I saw the wagon start, so I thought it would be better if I just joined in and kept my mouth shut.

                                                                                Last Night, I investigated someone who turned out to be Town. I'm quite reluctant to reveal his identity, as doing so would be signing his death warrant, and we won't be any further on Day 4.

                                                                                I suggest the following strategy: we lynch someone today (hopefully not the person I investigated - I will come forward with my report if that does threaten to happen). If the person we lynch is Mafia, the game ends. If he's not, I'll investigate someone else tonight and reveal both my reports tomorrow. I'm sure to live another Night and get another report through considering the Doc is still alive, and the Roleblocker is dead.

                                                                                I hope I didn't mess anything up. For obvious reasons I won't put down a vote for the time being.

                                                                                K, Back from the city, apparently being online one day every phase isn't enough and work prevents me being able to do much else.

                                                                                Just one question : Did you investigate Shuhan? Out of interest, no need to say who if its not him, but can rule him out from lynch is all.

                                                                                Reading back on what I missed, things have changed a little bit and I can see Pyro's point. Have one other suspicion also, that can wait since I'll be around for another 12 hours or so.

                                                                                One final query on the game structure here, does phase end when lynch reaches cap? OR can you reach cap and then change etc as much as you want til phase ends (by the clock)?

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                                                                                  @Tyrone:

                                                                                  Well, I guess I was wrong about Gooner. I really hope the cop speaks up soon.

                                                                                  Pyrofrost, why were you so quick to target Shuhan? I thought you said on Day 2 you didn't like to rush the vote.

                                                                                  Backtrack and read my posts dood, you can cover all of day 2's and day 3's starting from here and it's only a few pages:
                                                                                  http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=32935&page=528&p=2850280&viewfull=1#post2850280

                                                                                  You will see that I never said, "I didn't like to rush the vote." Yesterday, I felt it wasn't a good idea…today, it doesn't bother me so much. Also, I stated my reasons for my current vote. Check the previous page, no point in repeating what I already posted.

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                                                                                    @Pyrofrost:

                                                                                    Shuhan, you've been too in the shadows with your ideas, not making any straightforward claims of your own. You've basically been riding Harvady's coat-tail the entire game.

                                                                                    Lynch Vote: Lynch Shuhan

                                                                                    (nothing personal)

                                                                                    What are these claims you speak of pray tell?

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                                                                                      What are these claims you speak of pray tell?

                                                                                      My reasons are right above my "lynch vote." I'm not going to repeat myself when all you need to do is read.

                                                                                      Anywho, Tales of Xillia 2 is calling me. I will be checking back for new developments, but no more "Why did you choose Shuhan?" questions. That's in my post were I voted him, read it. If you disagree, you're free to voice that; however, my vote is locked unless I am needed as a majority vote to make a lynch happen on someone else.

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                                                                                        Sorry but going to ask another question about set up.

                                                                                        Are the two mafia and two town active roles able to speak outside the thread? i.e. Is it a given that the goon and mafia RBer KNOW who the other is?

                                                                                        Does the same apply for the active town roles?

                                                                                        This is important to my opinion and probably my vote

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                                                                                          @Stereo:

                                                                                          Sorry but going to ask another question about set up.

                                                                                          Are the two mafia and two town active roles able to speak outside the thread? i.e. Is it a given that the goon and mafia RBer KNOW who the other is?

                                                                                          Does the same apply for the active town roles?

                                                                                          This is important to my opinion and probably my vote

                                                                                          No members of the Town can speak with eachother outside of this thread. The Mafia members always have a separate thread where they can speak with eachother (either only at Night or all the time).

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                                                                                            Well my assessment of the last couple of phases see the most likely team being Holygamer and Shuhan, given no solid claims whilst still being active.

                                                                                            I also base this on the fact that Shuhan has played here a fair bit and if thats the case it kind of makes sense and he has played well. Reading back using that assumption, I think its the most likely. Mainly using the logic that Holygamer was speaking with their partner outside the day and posts were thought out and strategised beforehand.

                                                                                            My next best bet was Mrs Iceburg, but ever though theres no proof I figure I have to go with the claim for now.

                                                                                            Lynch Shuhan

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                                                                                              @Stereo:

                                                                                              Well my assessment of the last couple of phases see the most likely team being Holygamer and Shuhan, given no solid claims whilst still being active.

                                                                                              I also base this on the fact that Shuhan has played here a fair bit and if thats the case it kind of makes sense and he has played well. Reading back using that assumption, I think its the most likely. Mainly using the logic that Holygamer was speaking with their partner outside the day and posts were thought out and strategised beforehand.

                                                                                              My next best bet was Mrs Iceburg, but ever though theres no proof I figure I have to go with the claim for now.

                                                                                              Lynch Shuhan

                                                                                              I thank you for the wonderful compliment on my play, however, there is something fundamentally wrong with your assessment. There are at least two others here that are master planners that make me look like Radditz, Harv and Ice.

                                                                                              And unless I am mistaken, I said my suspects quite clearly yesterday…granted Gooner turned up town, but that leaves us with Tyrone the beach footwear.

                                                                                              Oh and I have a question for Iceburg...what is your opinion of bow ties?

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                                                                                                Rereading, I think it needs some padding to count. Idfk why, but it does, it seems, with that I'm off to work.

                                                                                                Lynch Vote : Lynch Shuhan

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                                                                                                  @Shuhan:

                                                                                                  I thank you for the wonderful compliment on my play, however, there is something fundamentally wrong with your assessment. There are at least two others here that are master planners that make me look like Radditz, Harv and Ice.

                                                                                                  And unless I am mistaken, I said my suspects quite clearly yesterday…granted Gooner turned up town, but that leaves us with Tyrone the beach footwear.

                                                                                                  Oh and I have a question for Iceburg...what is your opinion of bow ties?

                                                                                                  Two master planners? What are you insinuating?

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                                                                                                    Two master planners? What are you insinuating?

                                                                                                    I'm speaking in general gameplay, you are a good player.

                                                                                                    Would you like a jelly baby?

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                                                                                                      @Shuhan:

                                                                                                      I thank you for the wonderful compliment on my play, however, there is something fundamentally wrong with your assessment. There are at least two others here that are master planners that make me look like Radditz, Harv and Ice. And unless I am mistaken, I said my suspects quite clearly yesterday…granted Gooner turned up town, but that leaves us with Tyrone the beach footwear. Oh and I have a question for Iceburg...what is your opinion of bow ties?

                                                                                                      Beach footwear? :<

                                                                                                      You've been acting rather suspicious lately, and since Mrs. Iceburg hasn't tried to stop the vote with her report, you're the best candidate for lynching.

                                                                                                      Vote Lynch: Shuhan

                                                                                                      Now we just need one more vote.

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                                                                                                        Rushed much? Fine, enough games, seeing as no one is picking up on the obvious hints.

                                                                                                        I am the doctor, satisfied? I protected Pyrofrost the first night then protected Iceburg last night.

                                                                                                        I have been playing close to the vest so far so I could at least stay under the mafia's radar, which seems to have worked so far. Please cc as much as you want, but when I'm dead, so is Iceburg.

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