Still not sure how I feel about Starlight Glimmer becoming one of the mane ponies.
She's been one of the mains for like 2 seasons now. Like half the episodes of the last two seasons were about her now being in the old Twilight role and having to make friends.
But even in the new intro she's still not on the same level as the original six. She's not in the opening shots, doesn't get an attribute quote or solo line. She's front row in the final group shot I guess, but still not Mane 6 status.
Yeah, she's in a perfect middle ground.
I also LOVE the decision to make her a guidance councellor.
That scene where she cheered up Twilight was golden, and illustrated what Starlight brings to the table.
Twilight's friends were focusing on cheering her up or patting her back in sympathy,
which is fine, but Starlight said "actually, I'm going to tell you what you did wrong." and it solved the problem.
Just like in the episode "A Royal Problem", this approach is sometimes the right way to go.
Starlight can cut through the bullshit and address the heart of an issue, which makes for a useful alternative method.
The scene also showed how well she's come to know and understand Twilight's personality,
which makes perfect sense considering that they live in the same house together.
There's also the fact that the mane six's dynamic is "being friends despite being completely different ponies".
There's still gonna be a "limit" to how deeply they can relate to or understand Twilight.
Starlight has much in common with Twilight, so that would make it even easier to surpass that limit.
I suppose so.
Also I'm not entirely up to date on the episodes, I'm still catching up.
I do still wish it had been Sunset Shimmer instead though, purely on the merits that I like her colors better and she stands apart from the rest of the group better, while Starlight sort of blends in next to Twilight. (Stupid time of day naming theme.)
(On the merits that she and Starlight are in basically the exact same situations as former villains turned friend, as blank slates they were pretty much interchangeable. There's probably differences between them at this point but I couldn't tell you what those differences are.)
but she's stuck in purgatory with the human designs, so that is what it is.
So this is going back to last week's episode, but see if you can spot the three ponies of interest here.
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Buck you, Hasbro. XD
Geebus, they make the final season sound like its going to be incredibly depressing with that cover of the intro.
Sombra? Oh, please have all the unreformed villains team up this season.
So the ultimate villain of the series is a goat.
I hope you're watching, Wagomu.
Glad Sombra's "dead". He's way too one-dimensional to be interesting. Aside from the villains and setting up the big series ending battle, I wasn't crazy about this episode. It's the same, I don't know if I can do it stuff all over again. And, there was too much padding. A magical evil king is taking over your country. Leave the forest alone and stop him! Well, here's hoping we get a Zecora episode.
After two kinda weak episodes, Frenemies, had put a constant smile on my face.
On another note. We had enough be-like-you-are-episodes, imo. Why do we have to waste best girl Yona on one?
For a final season it sure doesn't feel like one. Yeah some old villains are teaming up but one of them is brand new and the other only just appeared at the end of last season so its kinda… whatever. Especially since Sombra is dead and Terek is.... kind of lame now? Chrysalis is the only one that goes back far enough and appeared enough to actually feel like anything.
Like, i realize they mostly accomplished their dreams where applicable already. Chain of fashion stores, animal sanctuary, wonderbolts, cutie marks, etc. But its not really... doing anything to be a final run with the characters at all. Not really doing one last run through the greatest hits of one time characters or wrapping up anythings just.... more nonsense.
Maybe that'll change in the second half of the season.
The final episodes have aired overseas and are up online now. The NA broadcast is months behind, so if you still care at all or about spoilers, be careful!
I haven't watched them yet but probably tonight.
Well, that was an ending. Not the best, not the worst. About what I expected from it given where the season has been going. . Not going to say anything specific, not even under spoiler tags, given that this thread has been dead so I have no idea how many people are actually keeping up or waiting for the NA release which will take a while yet.
But definitely an ending.
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Just watched the finale. Pretty good sendoff for the series.
! -Wow, Discord. That's just a new level of stupidity for you.
-Loved the Pinky and the Brain call out.
-So they've petrified a small child in stone for eternity. How morally dubious of them.
-Pinkie and Cheese Sandwich? Uh…neat.
-Did they imply that Applejack and Rainbow Dash are together now?
As a lot of people have said, myself included, the show probably should have ended sooner, but I think the last two seasons at least were pretty solid. And I am gonna miss these characters all the same. Although it's not quite over for me yet as I still have to watch the Best Gift Ever and Rainbow Roadtrip episodes that I somehow missed.
Oh finally someone else saw it so I can talk about it!
! Pinkie and Cheese Sandwich, Applejack and Dash, and Discord and Fluttershy all seem to be coupled up. Your mileage will vary on the second pair depending on your gaydar. My wife doesn't see it, but she also didn't see Korra and Asami either. Cheese Sandwich is weird because they brought him back in during the last season for an episode just… to sort of remind us he existed I guess?
! Rarity is apparently a spinster.
! > -So they've petrified a small child in stone for eternity. How morally dubious of them.
! Given how Discord worked out, and their general track record of villain reform, I think they're just saving them to be next Millenia's problem, or even just Twilight's new student, rather than eternity. (Lustre Dawn, really? Well, I guess after Sunset Shimmer and Starlight Glimmer…)
! I'm mostly weirded out about Queen Twilight and Buff Spike. They look FREAKY, especially given Spike's voice didn't change. Also, that while Twilight has matured, she seems... immortal now? While all he friends are noticeably aged and getting wrinkle lines? Is... is Twilight going to outlive all her best friends by centuries?
But yeah, the show probably needed to wrap up a year or two sooner. The cast achieved their dreams mostly by season 5 or 6 and just sort of spun their wheels after that and didn't hang out much, and they tried to focus on secondary characters (Starlight specifically) , and the school season was… misguided. Overall it was fine though. Its nice they got as much mileage from it as they did.
! Pinkie and Cheese Sandwich, Applejack and Dash, and Discord and Fluttershy all seem to be coupled up.
! Personally, I just took Discord and Fluttershy to mean they were just still good friends. I mean, I know love takes all forms and I shouldn't judge, but I don't even really want to contemplate what a romantic or physical relationship between them would be like.
! I'm mostly weirded out about Queen Twilight and Buff Spike. They look FREAKY, especially given Spike's voice didn't change.
! It's funny, before I saw the finale I actually saw a Devinatart pic of the cast all aged up, taken straight from the show, and I actually did think it was just fanart.
! Also, that while Twilight has matured, she seems… immortal now? While all he friends are noticeably aged and getting wrinkle lines? Is... is Twilight going to outlive all her best friends by centuries?
! I think one of the show's writers actually responded to this and pulled a Rick Sanchez by essentially saying "Don't think about it."
! Anyway, amidst all the other aged up characters we got see, I'm a little disappointed we didn't see (kid? teen? adult?) Flurry Heart.
! Anyway, amidst all the other aged up characters we got see, I'm a little disappointed we didn't see (kid? teen? adult?) Flurry Heart.
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! Other freeze frame bonuses include
-the two part finale included a lot of the movie characters as background silent extras. Personally, Flim and Flam being in on the big gang up ruins it for me, that breaks my sense of disbelief.
! -that big series of groups shots at the end song includes Sunset Shimmer in her only appearance in the actual show
! -The pages of the newspaper that Twilight turns show multiple pictures: Lyra and Bon Bon's wedding (confirming their Relationship Upgrade in "The Big Mac Question"), Derpy with a chef's hat along with a picture of a muffin, and the statue of the three villains from the previous episode. Also shown is a story dealing with Coloratura, and a story about Cranky Doodle Donkey. There's also a "action shot" of the Big Badass Battle Sequence from the previous episode.
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! -Among the new stained glass windows in Canterlot Castle are older Flurry Heart ruling over the Crystal Empire, the defeat of Tirek, Chyrsalis and Cozy Glow, the Student Six fighting some rhino-beetle-like monster, and partial one that shows the CMC with their Crusader emblem. There is also one of the Tree of Harmony in the main castle throne room.
! -Grown-up versions of Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon and Twist are briefly seen in Ponyville.
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! -Grown up Cake babies.
! -Cheese and giant Gummy. Not as much of an easter egg as it had actual screen time but
! As for Fluttershy and Discord… he was packing her a lunch, and was expected to normally be at the meetings, and provided her portal rather than her getting there through other means and was also sending animals her way during her song number bit. . Strong implication that they're staying at the same place, IMO. But like Dash and Applejack, I guess that's a little looser and up to personal interpretation. Seems pretty clear cut to me at least.
! And just because.
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! One interesting thing is I know I predicted years and years ago that maybe the final episode would be about Twilight moving away after having made all her friends… but I'll be damned if I can find that post in a 9 year, 460 page thread. Be fun to be able to point at it.
! As for Fluttershy and Discord… he was packing her a lunch, and was expected to normally be at the meetings, and provided her portal rather than her getting there through other means and was also sending animals her way during her song number bit. . Strong implication that they're staying at the same place, IMO. But like Dash and Applejack, I guess that's a little looser and up to personal interpretation. Seems pretty clear cut to me at least.
! Eh, they could just be roommates. But, as you said, you can take what you want from it.
! Anyway, thanks for highlighting all those easter eggs. I know there's at least a few of those I missed.
On another note, I watched the Best Gift Ever special on Netflix. Good special, but probably the biggest take away was Twilight's "pudding face". Nice to know the creators can give us such meme-worthy images even after 8-9 seasons.
Glad the show ended on a high note. I really liked these last couple seasons. Glad they took the time to make the last episode its own thing. I do wonder if:
! Celestia and Luna are still immortal. Twilight's definitely out living her friends. I don't remember seeing Granny Smith during the final song, guess she's dead. Wow, I'm really morbid.
! As for the couples, I'm fine with them. Last minute hookups seems the be the thing for cartoons these days, especially if its a non-traditional couple. But, unlike Legend or Korra, at least MLP had Lyra and Bonbon throughout the series.
And like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the show's continuing in comic form. Depending if I still care next April I may check it out.
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Starlight VS Chrysalis was so anime.
I wanted like…. 10 more minutes of that.
I can't get enough of this fan animation sendoff:
Like the Avatar? / Like the Miis?
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On the more negative side of things, I saw the Rainbow Road Trip special and, holy crap, that might be the worst MLP:FiM-related thing I've ever seen. It was dull, tedious, unfunny, cloying, the plot made no sense, and it was just all around a slog to get through. Apparently, it was produced by some Irish company rather than DHX, which at least explains some of it, but if this is the kind of work they put out I wouldn't hire them. Also, I think they tried to the emulate the "3-D" look of the movies, which looks even worse this time around.
I admit that the special didn't enthrall me enough to re-watch it on my own,
but I did appreciate the "interact with your community, greet your neighbors" message.
A couple of YouTube reactors almost teared up during that speech…. until Pinkie jumped in to ruin it.
Torque Wrench and Kerfuffle were good concept characters, they should have been in the main show.
Extra points for Kerfuffle having a false leg that was never fussed over or pointed out. Very cool.
I also think the ending song Living in Color sounds alright for what it is.
I loved the way they played around with the visuals.
I'm also a HUGE sucker for schmaltz, so the fact that the "biggest speech of my life" the Mayor was writing the whole time was a proposal...
That was a heart melter for me. I felt genuinely happy for them.
@MDL:
I admit that the special didn't enthrall me enough to re-watch it on my own,
but I did appreciate the "interact with your community, greet your neighbors" message.
The weird thing is there was never any reason for why they stopped being neighborly in the first place. Like, did everyone get smart phones or something?
So what are everyone's thoughts on this?
On one hand, it could end up like Teen Titans Go, which doesn't have a good rep.
Or it could end up like RWBY Chibi or the Avatar The Last Airbender shorts, which do have a good rep.
I'll definitely give it a shot, I notice little personality quirks that are still there.
(Rarity rolling her shoulders and fluttering her eyelashes,
Fluttershy covering her mouth after shouting "hell", etc)
And with the voice actresses staying on board too, I'm sure that at the very least it won't be awful to sit through.
We just need to wait and see where it places on a scale of "meh" to "great".
I did make this though, for the lulz.
So MLP is getting the Teen Titans Go treatment. Because what isn't these days?
I thought it was just a new line of toys.
I'd prefer a conclusion to EqG, but eh guess whatever keeps the Gen 4 boat afloat before G5. The designs are cute but the writing's gonna determine if it's worth my time.
Seen a few eps, it's..alright. Just chibi G4 ponies and not continuity to the last series. That's pretty much it.
Who the FUCK thought that was a good idea?!
I haven't seen any episodes yet, but I still get the impression that this is pretty much the MLP equivalent of RWBY Chibi.
Seems harmless, especially since this isn't meant to be G5.
Who the FUCK thought that was a good idea?!
The toy department?
I mean, its fine. I watched the first episode. Its basically the same show just on crack and without any continuity. Its closer to the Avatar or RWBY chibi shorts than to TTG or Thundercats.
It's not GOOD, and is closer to what people might have traditionally expected from a childrens show, but its fine.
They're obviously not ready to make the full leap into generation 5 with a new style (whatever that ends up being) and abandon this cast entirely yet. They wore out over a decade but they're still viable for a bit yet.
An autopsy of the Brony fandom.
So apparently there's a new movie coming out that's going to be the start of Generation 5:
Set in the same Equestria but years after G4 to the point that Twilight and Co. are legends. An Equestria that is divided and no longer in harmony. I would be more interested, but I do not like CGI ponies. Hopefully it's only the movie.
The smiles in the thumbnail make me think of the Bee Movie.
Cool. So I guess they're letting the franchise slide back into mediocrity.
The CGI looks pretty good but they need to cut down on the perpetual smiling and make the boy ponies look a bit less smug. This feels like it won't appeal to older audiences in the way gen 4 did, but I'm glad if that's the way it goes.
Izzy and Sunny reminds me of Melody and Patch from the tales series, though I doubt they're actual references.
