He wouldn't even need clairvoyance for something that was talked so loudly he could probably overhear it from the other room.
Good point. Makes me think that omniscience and clairvoyance are pretty useless abilities when everything is explicitly explained out loud.
Actually pretty hilarious too that Ishida is trying so hard to keep Haschwaizen's trust, something he apparently had never earned to begin with. Ishida seems to knows that very well, but still keeps the pretense anyway because maybe it's uncool to drop it as soon as the life jacket (Ichigo and co.) shows up.
Bonus points if Ishida genuinely thought he could fool the guy with just some dodgy excuses and lax display of "betraying" his own friends.
Obviously, Bach already knew all of this and it's all part of his plan. Somehow.
Obviously, Bach already knew all of this and it's all part of his plan. Somehow.
I mean, it kinda has to be when Uryu's giving off all the obvious signs of being a traitor short of actually holding a sign up saying "I'M A TRAITOR".
Has an explanation been given for why Almighty Beard and Hashtag swap powers?
Kubology: The blind and unthinking acceptance of whatever Kubo writes.
So why do the quincies want to invade earth?
So why do the quincies want to invade earth?
Why do they need to invade a place they are already from would be my question.
Has an explanation been given for why Almighty Beard and Hashtag swap powers?
I think in Hashtag's flashback, mustachio said to him that he was his "other half" or some BS like that.
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So why do the quincies want to invade earth?
For quarters to do their laundry, I presume.
@Purple:
I mean, it kinda has to be when Uryu's giving off all the obvious signs of being a traitor short of actually holding a sign up saying "I'M A TRAITOR".
His favourite song is Ke$ha´s "Backstabber" and he asked Santa for a Dvd of "Traitor". He must have realized somewhere along the way.
Oh wow, Uryu was really not a bad dude all of this time, who would've known? /s
Yeah… Uryu has been horribly misused this entire arc... Which is extra terrible given that this was supposed to be an arc about the freaking Quincies! and yet the one Quincy who was supposed to be a main character (just like Chad and Orihime… Ugh!) still doesn't do a fucking thing... Yeah that's a brilliant plan Kubo... That's brilliant ese... Who am I kidding Kubo didn't have a plan...
Also... And I'm probably wrong about this... I hope that I'm wrong about this anyway, but I think I actually thankfully am in this case but... Was that guy at the end supposed to be Aizen do you think? Because I don't know why but for some reason the way he was covered in shadow to "keep a mystery going" and his hair style which vaguely resembled one of Aizen's evolved forms... Caused me to fear that Kubo's brought Aizen back into the story (which will still probably happen mind you I just... I hope that we can delay the inevitable at least... :getlost:) Because even though it's probably not Aizen... We probably aren't seeing him yet... If it ends up being him then this is the only response I can provide for him coming back into the story...
Although… The more I think about it... And it pains me to say this, I mean it really really does... But having Aizen back in the story at this point might actually make the Bleach story "better" in a way (as "better" as Bleach can get at this point, what with the incredibly low bar that it is) I mean... The story would probably become even dumber then it already is (if that's possible) and the already indecipherable, impenetrable paradox of a "story" that is the Bleach continuity would probably get even worse if he were to reappear (though hopefully his badass... BADASS chair will be with him too mother****er's… That should be his new Bankai as far as I'm concerned :ninja:
) But the simple fact of the matter is... As terrible a character as Aizen is (I mean I don't hate him as much as I hate Sasuke from Naruto, but that's a really low bar since I don't think it's possible for me to hate a manga character that much Jesus...) if he were to reappear in Bleach at this point it would at least make the story more entertaining if nothing else. Because as terrible as the Deicide arc of Bleach is from a writing/storytelling standpoints (and countless other standpoints) at least it's such an acid trip and is so utterly balls to the wall insane that... I can't help but feel that if Aizen showed up again and started turning into a Butterfly/Tentacle monster/condom-man then the series would start to get more entertaining just in how ridiculously dumb it would get... Although I guess the Mayuri vs Pernida fight and Shunsui vs Lillebarro fight were all pretty ridiculously stupid anyway so... Maybe not... :sad:
At this point Bleach is entertaining only in the same way that similarly "So Bad It's Good" movies like Plan 9 from Outer Space or The Room are... So I leave you with this...
Possibly the worst acting in the history of acting… And yet strangely still more entertaining in a way then most contemporary chapters of Bleach that don't have Zaraki or Mayuri in them...
My Hero Academia is my favorite manga series right now. At least so long as the high of its greatness remains. United States of Smash.
@Kareem:
Yeah… Uryu has been horribly misused this entire arc... Which is extra terrible given that this was supposed to be an arc about the freaking Quincies! and yet the one Quincy who was supposed to be a main character (just like Chad and Orihime… Ugh!) still doesn't do a fucking thing... Yeah that's a brilliant plan Kubo... That's brilliant ese... Who am I kidding Kubo didn't have a plan...
Also... And I'm probably wrong about this... I hope that I'm wrong about this anyway, but I think I actually thankfully am in this case but... Was that guy at the end supposed to be Aizen do you think? Because I don't know why but for some reason the way he was covered in shadow to "keep a mystery going" and his hair style which vaguely resembled one of Aizen's evolved forms... Caused me to fear that Kubo's brought Aizen back into the story (which will still probably happen mind you I just... I hope that we can delay the inevitable at least... :getlost:) Because even though it's probably not Aizen... We probably aren't seeing him yet... If it ends up being him then this is the only response I can provide for him coming back into the story...
Although… The more I think about it... And it pains me to say this, I mean it really really does... But having Aizen back in the story at this point might actually make the Bleach story "better" in a way (as "better" as Bleach can get at this point, what with the incredibly low bar that it is) I mean... The story would probably become even dumber then it already is (if that's possible) and the already indecipherable, impenetrable paradox of a "story" that is the Bleach continuity would probably get even worse if he were to reappear (though hopefully his badass... BADASS chair will be with him too mother****er's… That should be his new Bankai as far as I'm concerned :ninja:
At this point Bleach is entertaining only in the same way that similarly "So Bad It's Good" movies like Plan 9 from Outer Space or The Room are... So I leave you with this...
Possibly the worst acting in the history of acting… And yet strangely still more entertaining in a way then most contemporary chapters of Bleach that don't have Zaraki or Mayuri in them...
Aizen will hopefully return for some shenanigans, but that isn't Aizen, it's Hashwalt. He mentions being able to see through what he was going to do and you can see the Quincy uniform under the coat. The shadowing is just there to make him look menacing. Despite the bad chapter, the panel is pretty cool.
TRAITOOOOORRRRRR
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@Kareem:
Yeah… Uryu has been horribly misused this entire arc... Which is extra terrible given that this was supposed to be an arc about the freaking Quincies! and yet the one Quincy who was supposed to be a main character (just like Chad and Orihime… Ugh!) still doesn't do a fucking thing... Yeah that's a brilliant plan Kubo... That's brilliant ese... Who am I kidding Kubo didn't have a plan...
Also... And I'm probably wrong about this... I hope that I'm wrong about this anyway, but I think I actually thankfully am in this case but... Was that guy at the end supposed to be Aizen do you think? Because I don't know why but for some reason the way he was covered in shadow to "keep a mystery going" and his hair style which vaguely resembled one of Aizen's evolved forms... Caused me to fear that Kubo's brought Aizen back into the story (which will still probably happen mind you I just... I hope that we can delay the inevitable at least... :getlost:) Because even though it's probably not Aizen... We probably aren't seeing him yet... If it ends up being him then this is the only response I can provide for him coming back into the story...
Although… The more I think about it... And it pains me to say this, I mean it really really does... But having Aizen back in the story at this point might actually make the Bleach story "better" in a way (as "better" as Bleach can get at this point, what with the incredibly low bar that it is) I mean... The story would probably become even dumber then it already is (if that's possible) and the already indecipherable, impenetrable paradox of a "story" that is the Bleach continuity would probably get even worse if he were to reappear (though hopefully his badass... BADASS chair will be with him too mother****er's… That should be his new Bankai as far as I'm concerned :ninja:
At this point Bleach is entertaining only in the same way that similarly "So Bad It's Good" movies like Plan 9 from Outer Space or The Room are... So I leave you with this...
Possibly the worst acting in the history of acting… And yet strangely still more entertaining in a way then most contemporary chapters of Bleach that don't have Zaraki or Mayuri in them...
Do you mean Aizen appearing in an extended role? Because he and his chair emerged some time ago. Of course, he got punked by one of the worst Stetnritter and has only appeared once in the last 40 chapters. The only way he could have an extended role at this point is if Kira frees him or he somehow frees himself from that chair
Spoiler:
I'd give almost anything for Unohana or any of the Royal Guards to come back. I'll sacrifice pretty much everyone besides Yoruichi and the Vizards lmao.
Y](https://blueeyesdragonics.wordpress.com/2016/01/31/bleach-660-yes-lets-say-are-master-plan-out-loud-to-omniscient-people/)awch's ability really makes it hard for me to see a conceivable way for the good guys to win.
Ishida should have fought Ichigo, it's not much but it's a fight we all wanted to see.
I updated my thing, for shits and giggles. Seemed appropriate
How to write a compelling shonen rivalry! By Kubo Tite
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First, design an unique Rival to the Hero! To underline their duality, have the Rivals fighting style be opposite of the Heros, and invert their uniforms color! Have Rival belong to a faction with diametrically opposed beliefs to Hero, though they share common endgoals! Give Rival a chip on his shoulder due to wrongs made upon his kind by Heros faction!
Personality-wise, try thinking really out of the box, for instance making the Rival more cold, distant, intelligent, refined, and soft spoken, and mysterious and handsome and well dressed and fashionable and generally appealing.
Have Hero and Rival initially team up as allies; you need to give them a connection, so the readers feel something if Rival suddenly becomes an enemy!
Send Hero and Rival on an epic quest to save a common friend! The enemy can be the Heros faction, which will cause Hero to have a lot of introspection about his side not being undisputedly in the right-
Oh, wait, the guys from the heros faction are really popular? Hold on, gimme a sec…
Only then this guy who was supposed to be dead is not dead and slicks his hair back and planned everything bad ever
But lets still have Rival fight a giant Caterpillar Baby monster controlled by a hamfisted evil personification of everything bad done to Rivals people. This causes Rivals relationship to the hero and his faction to
Rival and Heros’ bond is now very strong!
While the Hero trains for the upcoming fights against Slicked Back Hair Mastermind, remember to do the same for the Rival. It is crucial to keep the characters at a somewhat even level, for the rivalry to feel genuine. This is important. I should write this down somewhere…Ah, a table, perfect
Launch epic Mega-Arc where the Hero’s faction faces off against a white-clad, unforeseen army of their age-old, literal opposites, bent on destroying the Heros kind as well as God and reality itself! The Hero, shockingly a dual product of both sides, must tap into both sides of his power to face the nigh- omnipotent enemy, who has been manipulating him all along, while also trying to rescue his companion who shockingly has ended up with the enemy!!!
What? What about the Rival? Don't be daft, he has nothing to do with this
Eh, I guess the rival can tag along again and fight some low level enemy soldiers
"Have serious exploration of the Rivals unique relationship with the enemy forces compared to the Hero"? “Have Rival be competent and contribute with his strength, and show the impact of the training he did that one time”? What are you babbling about? The Rival can get fodderized and spend the majority of the arc offscreen and inconsequential that’s’ what he can do, whats more important is optimizing the villains design. I’m thinking mullet. Mullet and butterfly wings.
In fact, keep interactions between Hero and Rival to a bare minimum, and completely omit him from the year-long climax to the 6-year mega arc, leaving him literally useless in a ditch. Can we incorporate the villains couch in his design?
Rival and Heros bond is now very strong! Rival still appears to be a totally legit main character, and definitely not totally underused and mistreated, and utterly outclassed by the Fated ManBearPig protagonist!
This close relationship is brought to the forefront in the next arc, where Rival gets taken out like an absolute chump, in order to justify the Hero joining extremely untrustworthy people in order to protect his friends.
Now that Rival has played his role, keep interactions between Hero and Rival to a minimum. Keep rival offscreen and incapacitated most the arc, despite being the causal factor for everything, and ESPECIALLY because he can instantly expose the villain plot twist (Villain plot twists are SACRED! It is known!)
Then, have rival show up at the end at the Heros lowest point after he’s been swindled by the untrustworthy people!
Have Rival be totally inconsequential, as Hero ultimately solves everything by himself with his latest powerup. After all, though his assault was the inciting incident of the entire conflict, this was truly the arc of That Other Guy. You now, wossface. With the arm? This may all sound weird to you, but trust me, I’m a professional, I know where this is going, I’m the centurys greatest mangaka
“Reigen Arataka reference”? Is he some sort of architect or fashion designer?
Arc ends! New Arc! Due to that time back then, on the roof or whatever, Hero and Rivals are the bestest of friends and its so great you guys because youd think they’d be enemies!
Have some other character awkwardly remind readers that Hero and Rivals are the bestest of friends and its so great you guys because you’d think they’d be enemies!
Launch epic Mega-Arc where the Hero’s faction faces off against a white-clad, unforeseen army of their age-old, literal opposites, bent on destroying the Heros kind as well as God and reality itself! The hero, shockingly a dual product of both sides, must tap into both sides of his power to face the nigh- omnipotent enemy, who has been manipulating him all along!!!
AND THE RIVAL JOINS THE ENEMY!
This is it, the big one! To really hammer home the conflict between hero and Rival, make sure to adhere to the Golden Rules:
o RIVALS LINES MUST BE KEPT TO THE BARE MINIMUM. Keeps him mysterious.
o RIVALS PANELTIME MUST BE KEPT TO THE BARE MINIMUM. Makes him even more mysterious.
o RIVALS EMOTIONS MUST BE KEPT TO THE BARE MINIMUM. Mysteries are exciting! I like mysteries. Oooh, I wonder what is he thinking?
o RIVALS MUST NEVER EVER EVER CLARIFY GOALS OR MOTIVES UNTIL THE ABSOLUTE LATEST POSSIBLE MOMENT!!!!! MAX MYSTERY
Now while Rival is generating MYSTERY AND DRAMA with his general wordless apathy and spiffy new uniform, you can get your moneys worth by using him to explore the antagonistic factions culture and ideals! Ultimately, you can build up the antagonists and make a balanced, rounded conflict with two fleshed out and relatable opposing factions!
But of course, we must ask ourselves the question: “Are the Hero and his faction still popular?”
If yes, just make the villains superpowered Nazis. (Side note: remember to give Hamfisted Evil Personification of Everything Bad Done to Rivals People Who Also Abuses His Daughter a ton of comedic moments, and a big climactic fight revealing what a softie he really is)
Having thus set up the final confrontation of Hero and Rival and thoroughly explored their histories and mentality, its’ time to create the meat of the arc! Most of the arc will consist of an endless string of drawn out one-on-one battles (what else would you fill an arc with? Sewing and interior design? Ha Ha ha! Although…), and I therefore recommend a simple ranking system to keep track of the villains
Ok, so Bazz B with his Burner Fingers and ability to burn everything will obviously get the letter- Wait hang on, I want second-in-command guy to be B, which makes Bazz B the uhhhhh whats a synonym for “burning” or “flame”, er, I guess “heat” will do. Ok, we make an exception here. Now, as for the bomb-making Bambietta Basterbine she oh fuck me, I need to take some notes, is there any space on the table leg?
Finally, do that thing where the Hero and Rival come face to face on the battlefield, and the Hero shouts the Rivals name real loud, only the Rival doesn’t care and turns and leaves, and the Hero must chase after him
Oh, oh oh, and then Stromboli and the main villain fight, and theres a giant brush, and a shitload of black ink, and something about eyeballs, I feel like eyeballs are really good for a villain, and his beard should get bigger!!!
Oh right, the rivalry. Well, then Hero catches up to the Rival, and finally , you do the thing where the Hero and Rival come face to face on the battlefield, and the Hero shouts the Rivals name real loud, only the Rival doesn’t care! That works every time!!
Then, now is finally the time to pay off all the buildup and the arcs considerable paneltime of the Rival and their conflicting philosophies and motivations and- what do you mean we haven’t done any that?
“Mostly wordless apathetic stares”? Now that’s just not true, he got a new uniform too!
…
Then the Rival kicks Hero down the metaphorical stairs, forcing him to redo the journey to Rival, filling the readers to the brim with excitement and buying you at least 40 chapters to flesh out the this confrontation, last chance, no time for distractions now!
AND THE SNIPER DUDE SHOULD BECOME A FLYING BURRITO WITH CHEESEWINGS NO WAIT, WAIT, A GIANT OWL-CENTAUR THING WHO TALKS ABOUT SINS AND DRY EYES, AND THEN HE GETS A TRUMPET BLAST REFLECTED IN HIS FACE AND DIES
And Rival goes and
ONLY HE DOESN’T REALLY DIE BECAUSE NOW HES A FLAMINGO OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN, AND THERES A WHOLE BUNCH OF HIM NOW, THIS IS GONNA BE SO GREAT
And then Hero catches up to Rival, and its time to payoff several years worth of storytelling using the buildup you made the last 40 chapters, which has made the context of this re-encounter radically different from the last.
…
Can I have Rival kick Hero down the metaphorical stairs again?
Oh, all right all right. Rival finally reveals his goal to the Hero. After kicking him down some metaphorical stairs again.
And Rival reveals that…that he…was planning to… sweat betray the villains all along? Right! This will be really surprising, because no one will have suspected Rival to betray the villains, least of all the villains themselves. And Rival …wants um, the Hero and his gang to leave…because, er, his plan- which totally could only be used at this moment!- is, like, really dangerous huff huff…and he took the burden upon himself rather than confide in his friends, because grrrrgh because he still cares for them but thought he was the only one who could defeat the villains and so didn’t talk to his friends about it!!! Pheeeeeew, making art is hard. But this is surely a completely satisfactory payoff to several hundred chapters worth of character relationship.
This has been manga-ing with Kubo Tite
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@Daz:
- But lets still have Rival fight a giant Caterpillar Baby monster controlled by a hamfisted evil personification of everything bad done to Rivals people. This causes Rivals relationship to the hero and his faction to
to… to what? I can't read beyond something that's unfinished!
Sorry Purple Hermit, but thats a level 43 secret
But I have access to all levels from 0 to Z!
@Daz:
I updated my thing, for shits and giggles. Seemed appropriate
How to write a compelling shonen rivalry! By Kubo Tite
[hide]
First, design an unique Rival to the Hero! To underline their duality, have the Rivals fighting style be opposite of the Heros, and invert their uniforms color! Have Rival belong to a faction with diametrically opposed beliefs to Hero, though they share common endgoals! Give Rival a chip on his shoulder due to wrongs made upon his kind by Heros faction!
Personality-wise, try thinking really out of the box, for instance making the Rival more cold, distant, intelligent, refined, and soft spoken, and mysterious and handsome and well dressed and fashionable and generally appealing.
Have Hero and Rival initially team up as allies; you need to give them a connection, so the readers feel something if Rival suddenly becomes an enemy!
Send Hero and Rival on an epic quest to save a common friend! The enemy can be the Heros faction, which will cause Hero to have a lot of introspection about his side not being undisputedly in the right-
Oh, wait, the guys from the heros faction are really popular? Hold on, gimme a sec…
Only then this guy who was supposed to be dead is not dead and slicks his hair back and planned everything bad ever
But lets still have Rival fight a giant Caterpillar Baby monster controlled by a hamfisted evil personification of everything bad done to Rivals people. This causes Rivals relationship to the hero and his faction to
Rival and Heros’ bond is now very strong!
While the Hero trains for the upcoming fights against Slicked Back Hair Mastermind, remember to do the same for the Rival. It is crucial to keep the characters at a somewhat even level, for the rivalry to feel genuine. This is important. I should write this down somewhere…Ah, a table, perfect
Launch epic Mega-Arc where the Hero’s faction faces off against a white-clad, unforeseen army of their age-old, literal opposites, bent on destroying the Heros kind as well as God and reality itself! The Hero, shockingly a dual product of both sides, must tap into both sides of his power to face the nigh- omnipotent enemy, who has been manipulating him all along, while also trying to rescue his companion who shockingly has ended up with the enemy!!!
What? What about the Rival? Don't be daft, he has nothing to do with this
Eh, I guess the rival can tag along again and fight some low level enemy soldiers
"Have serious exploration of the Rivals unique relationship with the enemy forces compared to the Hero"? “Have Rival be competent and contribute with his strength, and show the impact of the training he did that one time”? What are you babbling about? The Rival can get fodderized and spend the majority of the arc offscreen and inconsequential that’s’ what he can do, whats more important is optimizing the villains design. I’m thinking mullet. Mullet and butterfly wings.
In fact, keep interactions between Hero and Rival to a bare minimum, and completely omit him from the year-long climax to the 6-year mega arc, leaving him literally useless in a ditch. Can we incorporate the villains couch in his design?
Rival and Heros bond is now very strong! Rival still appears to be a totally legit main character, and definitely not totally underused and mistreated, and utterly outclassed by the Fated ManBearPig protagonist!
This close relationship is brought to the forefront in the next arc, where Rival gets taken out like an absolute chump, in order to justify the Hero joining extremely untrustworthy people in order to protect his friends.
- Now that Rival has played his role, keep interactions between Hero and Rival to a minimum. Keep rival offscreen and incapacitated most the arc, despite being the causal factor for everything, and ESPECIALLY because he can instantly expose the villain plot twist (Villain plot twists are SACRED! It is known!)
Then, have rival show up at the end at the Heros lowest point after he’s been swindled by the untrustworthy people!
Have Rival be totally inconsequential, as Hero ultimately solves everything by himself with his latest powerup. After all, though his assault was the inciting incident of the entire conflict, this was truly the arc of That Other Guy. You now, wossface. With the arm? This may all sound weird to you, but trust me, I’m a professional, I know where this is going, I’m the centurys greatest mangaka
“Reigen Arataka reference”? Is he some sort of architect or fashion designer?
Arc ends! New Arc! Due to that time back then, on the roof or whatever, Hero and Rivals are the bestest of friends and its so great you guys because youd think they’d be enemies!
Have some other character awkwardly remind readers that Hero and Rivals are the bestest of friends and its so great you guys because you’d think they’d be enemies!
Launch epic Mega-Arc where the Hero’s faction faces off against a white-clad, unforeseen army of their age-old, literal opposites, bent on destroying the Heros kind as well as God and reality itself! The hero, shockingly a dual product of both sides, must tap into both sides of his power to face the nigh- omnipotent enemy, who has been manipulating him all along!!!
AND THE RIVAL JOINS THE ENEMY!
This is it, the big one! To really hammer home the conflict between hero and Rival, make sure to adhere to the Golden Rules:
o RIVALS LINES MUST BE KEPT TO THE BARE MINIMUM. Keeps him mysterious.
o RIVALS PANELTIME MUST BE KEPT TO THE BARE MINIMUM. Makes him even more mysterious.
o RIVALS EMOTIONS MUST BE KEPT TO THE BARE MINIMUM. Mysteries are exciting! I like mysteries. Oooh, I wonder what is he thinking?
o RIVALS MUST NEVER EVER EVER CLARIFY GOALS OR MOTIVES UNTIL THE ABSOLUTE LATEST POSSIBLE MOMENT!!!!! MAX MYSTERYNow while Rival is generating MYSTERY AND DRAMA with his general wordless apathy and spiffy new uniform, you can get your moneys worth by using him to explore the antagonistic factions culture and ideals! Ultimately, you can build up the antagonists and make a balanced, rounded conflict with two fleshed out and relatable opposing factions!
But of course, we must ask ourselves the question: “Are the Hero and his faction still popular?”
If yes, just make the villains superpowered Nazis. (Side note: remember to give Hamfisted Evil Personification of Everything Bad Done to Rivals People Who Also Abuses His Daughter a ton of comedic moments, and a big climactic fight revealing what a softie he really is)
Having thus set up the final confrontation of Hero and Rival and thoroughly explored their histories and mentality, its’ time to create the meat of the arc! Most of the arc will consist of an endless string of drawn out one-on-one battles (what else would you fill an arc with? Sewing and interior design? Ha Ha ha! Although…), and I therefore recommend a simple ranking system to keep track of the villains
Ok, so Bazz B with his Burner Fingers and ability to burn everything will obviously get the letter- Wait hang on, I want second-in-command guy to be B, which makes Bazz B the uhhhhh whats a synonym for “burning” or “flame”, er, I guess “heat” will do. Ok, we make an exception here. Now, as for the bomb-making Bambietta Basterbine she oh fuck me, I need to take some notes, is there any space on the table leg?
Finally, do that thing where the Hero and Rival come face to face on the battlefield, and the Hero shouts the Rivals name real loud, only the Rival doesn’t care and turns and leaves, and the Hero must chase after him
Oh, oh oh, and then Stromboli and the main villain fight, and theres a giant brush, and a shitload of black ink, and something about eyeballs, I feel like eyeballs are really good for a villain, and his beard should get bigger!!!
Oh right, the rivalry. Well, then Hero catches up to the Rival, and finally , you do the thing where the Hero and Rival come face to face on the battlefield, and the Hero shouts the Rivals name real loud, only the Rival doesn’t care! That works every time!!
Then, now is finally the time to pay off all the buildup and the arcs considerable paneltime of the Rival and their conflicting philosophies and motivations and- what do you mean we haven’t done any that?
“Mostly wordless apathetic stares”? Now that’s just not true, he got a new uniform too!
…
Then the Rival kicks Hero down the metaphorical stairs, forcing him to redo the journey to Rival, filling the readers to the brim with excitement and buying you at least 40 chapters to flesh out the this confrontation, last chance, no time for distractions now!
AND THE SNIPER DUDE SHOULD BECOME A FLYING BURRITO WITH CHEESEWINGS NO WAIT, WAIT, A GIANT OWL-CENTAUR THING WHO TALKS ABOUT SINS AND DRY EYES, AND THEN HE GETS A TRUMPET BLAST REFLECTED IN HIS FACE AND DIES
And Rival goes and
ONLY HE DOESN’T REALLY DIE BECAUSE NOW HES A FLAMINGO OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN, AND THERES A WHOLE BUNCH OF HIM NOW, THIS IS GONNA BE SO GREAT
And then Hero catches up to Rival, and its time to payoff several years worth of storytelling using the buildup you made the last 40 chapters, which has made the context of this re-encounter radically different from the last.
…
Can I have Rival kick Hero down the metaphorical stairs again?
Oh, all right all right. Rival finally reveals his goal to the Hero. After kicking him down some metaphorical stairs again.
And Rival reveals that…that he…was planning to… sweat betray the villains all along? Right! This will be really surprising, because no one will have suspected Rival to betray the villains, least of all the villains themselves. And Rival …wants um, the Hero and his gang to leave…because, er, his plan- which totally could only be used at this moment!- is, like, really dangerous huff huff…and he took the burden upon himself rather than confide in his friends, because grrrrgh because he still cares for them but thought he was the only one who could defeat the villains and so didn’t talk to his friends about it!!! Pheeeeeew, making art is hard. But this is surely a completely satisfactory payoff to several hundred chapters worth of character relationship.
This has been manga-ing with Kubo Tite
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So what you're saying is that Iida is Yamcha, is Yamcha were suddenly "important" during the latter half if the Buu Saga.
If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
Do you mean Aizen appearing in an extended role? Because he and his chair emerged some time ago. Of course, he got punked by one of the worst Stetnritter and has only appeared once in the last 40 chapters. The only way he could have an extended role at this point is if Kira frees him or he somehow frees himself from that chair
I meant in an extended form yeah. And yeah I realize that that was Haschwalth (or however you spell his name) not Aizen… But again I still figure Aizen's going to show up again and honestly, though I really hate to say it, I'd be a little bit more surprised if Aizen DOESN'T show up again to be the final villain instead of Yhwach. Kubo just likes Aizen too damn much to forget about him honestly... And again part of me kind of wants him to come back quite sadly because it'd at least make the series a bit more interesting at this point. And hopefully the chair will be back too... God damn was that a badass chair. That chair is half the reason I read Bleach at this point. The other half is obligation and the fact that it usually takes me literally 90 seconds to read a typical chapter... :getlost:
Ichigo can't have rivals. Atleast not until it is needed.
@Purple:
But I have access to all levels from 0 to Z!
I distinctly remember stating it was a level -44c secret, but I am far too busy to go back and check that. If there are any further complaints, I can direct you to a very dust and rain-filled corner.
Something tells me that Applied Logic should be revived.
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So what you're saying is that Iida is Yamcha, is Yamcha were suddenly "important" during the latter half if the Buu Saga.
Kinda. But also, Goku is not fighting Buu but the Yamcha race, the age-old opposites of Sayans, and Yamcha is their prince…but he's still Yamcha.
Something tells me that Applied Logic should be revived.
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Been meaning to do an article on how the nature of hollows need to change for bleach to start making sense. If I have time this weekend, I'll get to it.
Something tells me that Applied Logic should be revived.
I teased a post a while back, but I've made 0% progress. Alas, the curse of video games and (now) school….
Definitely should get a post when all is said and done, at the very least.
@Daz:
- Launch epic Mega-Arc where the Hero's faction faces off against a white-clad, unforeseen army of their age-old, literal opposites, bent on destroying the Heros kind as well as God and reality itself!
If you're talking arrancar, they were hyped up pre-SS arc. A shadowy group of them were turning grand fisher into one. Hollows in general were also portrayed as being incredibly numberous at that point. A "versus hollow army" arc was being setup from the start, really. I mean, they were the original enemy of the whole series.
I know you're doing some "lololo rehashed story arc" shtick, but you have to admit, the series was reasonably thought out in it's early days compared to now.
If you're talking arrancar, they were hyped up pre-SS arc. A shadowy group of them were turning grand fisher into one. Hollows in general were also portrayed as being incredibly numberous at that point. A "versus hollow army" arc was being setup from the start, really. I mean, they were the original enemy of the whole series.
I know you're doing some "lololo rehashed story arc" shtick, but you have to admit, the series was reasonably thought out in it's early days compared to now.
Makes me wonder now if the turning point was when Isshin killed Grand Fisher instead of Ichigo.
At early serialization, Bleach meant "purifying tormented souls" and now it means "how clean the bad guys' clothes are"
I honestly get the feeling that most of the SS arc was planned, sans Aizen's betrayal. The first part of bleach was mostly episodic, and the grand fisher being turned into an arrancar was to show something bigger was happening. After that, kubo basically pulled shit out of his ass. Evidence being how many of the Espada were underdeveloped, whereas characters like ulquiorra and grimmjow got SO much screen time solely because they were "fan favorites".
Let's not forget Vasto Lords whose combat capabilities were greater than that of Captains, and if Aizen were to have more than 10 of them under his command, SS would be toast.
Only for that term to completely vanish from manga.
Kubo just doesn't know how to hype.
Oh my? Could it be? What a super special week for Bleach this is! Amazing! Bravo Kubo bravo! Such a milestone
No, not the chapter, thats pretty bad as per usual.
But this week, we celebrate the 4 year anniversary of the Quinzshenanigans arc!
So if it wasn't for Ishida pointing it out for Ichigo, he wasn't going to find Yhwacw in the time span that he's vulnerable. I mean if only there weren't their lives and world at stake, i would have guessed that their priorities should go without saying.
Also… Going to kill off the main baddie while he "sleeps"? Doesn't really sound heroic or epic or satisfying, like we know that he will wake up as soon as Ichigo steps in, but it just sounds very lame.
ResidentSleeper much
Another wasted chapter, seems like things were going to progress quickly. Then the usual Bleach kicks in:
1). Eplain everything to the main character
2). Split up
3). Some heroic this isn't how I am going to go out speech
4). Chad gets some giant to fight
5). Inuoe and Ichigo will meet some trash that will take more time than usual to defeat. All the while she is gasping and calling Ichigo's name.
6). Flashback to Ishida's fight of him scurrying around trying to put up some defense
7). Flashback to Chad's fight of him barely holding his own against these giants
8). Back to Ichigo still fighting some fodder
9). Eventually get's to "his majesty" wakes him up
10). Ishida's fight turns in his favor.
Such a simple storyline I hate that I have invested so much into this series. I don't know why Ganju couldn't just turn the ground underneath the status into sand and make them fall. Also how did Ganju come up from the floor beneath them, does that mean he can fly?
4 YEARS! It has been going on for 4 YEARS already? :blink:
Wow, now think back at what actually happened in this arc, formulaic battles that were dragged on for too long with typical kubo smug ass dumb science writing, generic bleach poses and there is still no end in sight. Not only are fights now in progress which wil take months to finish, cause of the slow pacing, but we still have Bach himself, the Shitebringers, magically out of Bachs ass pulled new enemies, that we all know are coming, and of course our favourite Smugzen to deal with for another 4 years at minimum.
I dropped Fairy Tail months ago, cause I was finally fed up with it, but couldn't do it with naruto and bleach, because I followed them for too long, but now I am actually gonna free myself and flush bleach down the toilet, untill it's completely done and I can read through the remaining chapters in 5 minutes.
Uryu continues to loudly announce aces in the hole while villains are nearby. And of course Haschwald would use the usual trope of "I'm not going to bother to intercept because I know they'll lose". Silly Quincy, Ichigo has teh plot armor.
I will give points for Ichigo's smile to ol' Uryu, and look, Ganju…..gets to fight some statues with Chad, yaaaay...but hey, they're being useful for once, can't dislike that.
Usual Bleach pacing, though.
@Daz:
Oh my? Could it be? What a super special week for Bleach this is! Amazing! Bravo Kubo bravo! Such a milestone
No, not the chapter, thats pretty bad as per usual.
But this week, we celebrate the 4 year anniversary of the Quinzshenanigans arc!
https://lh4.ggpht.com/GD1Pi6RP8rjEFmRMLI8b1h42JyN4XFmwyp3dyv_6xqKsUZhoIWqruE97wMKWg28rBfs=w300
For those of you keeping score at home, let me remind you that the arrancar arc all the way to Aizen's defeat and pre time skip final chapter was slightly under five years.
Also lol @ Chad basically getting thrown out of the story again.
The insane aspect of omnipotence aside, I actually liked the chapter. We had some nice character interaction where even Ishida broke out of his smugness (I liked him talking about how fate can be changed by actions). Ishida, Chad, and Orohime stuff was overall nice and felt like some of the good old Bleach stuff. Ganju coming out and the end with Chad and his two arms was actually pretty epic. It sucks he can't fight anyone of substance, but if he can at least come out on top looking like a boss I'll take it. Also the Chad thumbs up returned, so that made me giddy.
Nothing great, but I'll take it as a good chapter.
4 years? 4 years of this mayhem?
internal sobbing
Is that it? Is that Chad's final role? Fighting a bunch of Diet Picas?
@Purple:
For those of you keeping score at home, let me remind you that the arrancar arc all the way to Aizen's defeat and pre time skip final chapter was slightly under five years.
To be exact, its just over 5 years; June 2005 to July 2010. 253 chapters when you include bizarro-numbers like TBTP, so its still a ways off from the current arcs meager 182 chapters. I'm starting to think my 707 endpoint guess was lowballin' it though.
…yeah, I've spent too much time in this thread.
Speaking of which, didn't Kubo said this arc would take 10 years to finish it?
Speaking of which, didn't Kubo said this arc would take 10 years to finish it?
If he does intend it to be 10 years, either these last fights are going to be dragged out forever, or there will be a bunch of surprise enemies. I forgot how long arcs in Bleach can last, because other manga's can make shorter arcs feel longer while Bleach arcs make four years worth of content feel like one year worth.
Lol, the thread title made me laugh even before I read the chapter.
It's better than the chapter.
In an alternate universe: God, I'm so hyped for Chad to show his power against these wonderfully designed and detailed non-generic statues.
I gotta say, the emotions ran high this chapter. I mean, Ichigo and Ishida are finally on good terms again! Such payoff! Such a memorable moment! Couldn't you just all just feel the resolution to an arc-long schism hitting you, with all the force of a broken whopee cushion?
Ishida!
Go home, Kurosaki
ISHIDA!
I'm totes on the other team now, Kurosaki. For reasons!
ISHIDAAAAAA
I'm NOT your friend Kurosaki
ISHIDaaaAAAAaa?
Scoff scoff I will not explain myself scoff scoff
ISHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!?!?!!
…okay fine, I'm your friend Kurosaki. Happy now?
YEAH COOL SEE YOU LATER
Truly, Bleach's greatest strength remains the impeccable character dynamics
