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    • ARTEMlS
      ARTEMlS @Yobiyopi
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      @Yobiyopi:

      Naruto was a "uzumaki", kushina uzumaki was married with minato and had a son. Even if you conceal it, people SHOULD figure that out

      And that's where you completely underestimate the 3rd. He made sure that around 90% of villagers got the surname Uzumaki. Why should anyone ask any question regarding such ordinary names like Smith, Johnson, Uzumaki?

      Forum user Bartholemew Bear passed away in a very moving and touching way. I, ARTEMlS, therefore carry on the Will of DArth for good unto its final fulfilment.

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        Everything about the fox is a secret

        Except that this kid has the fox inside him

        And he's part of the Uzumaki clan

        And that it's okay for everyone to be a complete dick to the kid who has this dangerous creature in him.

        What a great plan Sarutobi

        Well to be fair I doubt Sarutobi was ok with people treating Naruto the way they were treating him but what could he actually do to stop the villagers? What most of the village did was just…hate Naruto. You can't punish people for simply giving Naruto the evil eye, ignoring him, or punish them because of the way their kids treat him because of the bad vibes they're getting from their parents. Even if Sarutobi let Naruto live with him, when the kid went outside he'd still be treated the same.

        Killer Bee went through the same stuff.

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        Gaara went through the same stuff and he was the Kazekage's kid. Sarutobi is no saint and sure he could've doted over Naruto and kept him close by at all time but the guy doesn't strike me as that kind of father figure. And the current Naruto can't even spend much time with his own kid because of all the "work" he has as Hokage and these are peaceful times, lol.

        Everything's Eventual…

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          Numder 3 is the best colorspread out of the bunch just because it's somewhat creative.
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          Sarutobi what a jokester. Information lockdown so that Naruto doesn't know he's a vessel for a mass of hatred but turns out the entire village's adult generation is comprised of idiots whose first instinct is to poke a monster with a stick.

          What a guy

          The Third was actively working to unleash Kurama again but the basic stupidity and incompetence of everyone thwarted that.

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            What I cant figure out is why sarutobi couldnt have just relocated naurto to some isolated farm or village with two anbu foster parents and give him a new identity? Wouldn't that have solved a few glaring plotholes as well as make…more sense than having an atom bomb walking around the village?

            Because the Jinchuurikis are considered as the village's most powerful weapons to be used in times of war/defense.

            [hide][/hide]You don't want your super-powerful weapon off in some isolated hut away from your village guarded by 2 garbage Anbu who can be killed and your powerful weapon taken away. We all know how terrible the "elite" Anbu fighters are. You need at least a whole village of them to be anywhere near effective.

            Everything's Eventual…

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              Well to be fair I doubt Sarutobi was ok with people treating Naruto the way they were treating him but what could he actually do to stop the villagers? What most of the village did was just…hate Naruto. You can't punish people for simply giving Naruto the evil eye, ignoring him, or punish them because of the way their kids treat him because of the bad vibes they're getting from their parents. Even if Sarutobi let Naruto live with him, when the kid went outside he'd still be treated the same.

              Killer Bee went through the same stuff.

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              Gaara went through the same stuff and he was the Kazekage's kid. Sarutobi is no saint and sure he could've doted over Naruto and kept him close by at all time but the guy doesn't strike me as that kind of father figure. And the current Naruto can't even spend much time with his own kid because of all the "work" he has as Hokage and these are peaceful times, lol.

              And in retrospect, it was all very stupid given what we know as the series progressed. Even if the third wouldn't punish people for discrimination, it's just generally really stupid for people to potentially fuck with a ticking timebomb

              I mean if only Sarutobi were as much of a loving and doting father figure like the fourth kazekage. Now there was a guy who knew how to build character for a kid by fucking with him on a psychological level

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                Check what just happened to the biggest Naruto troll

                "You could pretty much say i wrote Naruto (…) You could definitely say that i have impacted the story of Naruto ..."

                ....well...no ? but congratulations anyway

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                  @Purple:

                  And in retrospect, it was all very stupid given what we know as the series progressed. Even if the third wouldn't punish people for discrimination, it's just generally really stupid for people to potentially fuck with a ticking timebomb

                  I mean if only Sarutobi were as much of a loving and doting father figure like the fourth kazekage. Now there was a guy who knew how to build character for a kid by fucking with him on a psychological level

                  Yeah, the whole attitude shared by every village towards their Jinchuuriki was stupid. Stupid ignorance. I don't think it was stupid in retrospect though. I thought it was pretty evidently stupid from the near beginning of the manga.

                  Everything's Eventual…

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                    Well, apparently the fact that Kushina had the 9 Tails sealed inside her was kept a secret. The village didn't know about her being the second Jinchuuriki (Mito being the 1st and Naruto being the 3rd).

                    [hide]http://i58.tinypic.com/206zdjo.jpg[/hide]

                    The villagers (99% of them at least) didn't know Kushina even gave birth. Yes, Kushina's pregnancy wasn't a secret…

                    [hide]http://i58.tinypic.com/r280g2.jpg[/hide]But the birth was a secret, so while everyone knew Minato was due to have a child someday soon, they just didn't know when.

                    [hide]http://i58.tinypic.com/169rx9y.jpg[/hide]All most of the villae knew was that Kushina was pregnant before the Kyubi attack and that she was dead after the Kyubi attack. Nothing about giving birth. It's true as everyone has said his last name was Uzamaki, the same as his mother's.

                    [hide]http://i58.tinypic.com/2nswgad.jpg[/hide]And Naruto's last name wasn't exactly a secret.

                    [hide]http://i57.tinypic.com/w4nrl.jpg[/hide]But what about Kushina's last name? Jiraiya, Naruto's self-appointed godfather…

                    [hide]http://i60.tinypic.com/aut4ep.jpg[/hide]…Jiraiya didn't even know Kushina's last name.[hide]http://i60.tinypic.com/245dptz.jpg[/hide]I'm not so sure Kushina's last name was publicly known. The very first pic I used in response to Daz shows the whole reason she was brought to the village as a child was top secret. Maybe they kept her identity secret to protect her. She was already kidnapped as a child afterall because of her special chakra.

                    And of course the pic Robz put up showed that the 3rd Hokage purposefully suppressed the flow of information for reasons. And this pic puts a little bit more information behind why the 3rd didn't tell anybody why Naruto was Minato's son.

                    [hide]http://i57.tinypic.com/33d88k2.jpg[/hide]So was it the village being stupid for not figuring out Naruto was the 4th Hogake's son? Haha, yes, I still think so.

                    http://i58.tinypic.com/fum441.jpg

                    Was all of this secret stuff made to "protect" (?) naruto from harm? Because if that is the case, throwing him in the chuunin exams where he could die wasn't the most brilliant idea after all the secret stuff made. Or even sending him in any mission for the matter, since ninjas were ready to die for the mission's sake at times (also that brings up the point that Kakashi could have protected everyone in the mist village by spamming kamui and other broken stuff).

                    If not, what was the purpose of doing all of this intricate thing? (That in the end didnt even matter since black zetsu was apparently already ahead of everyone)

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                      Yeah, the whole attitude shared by every village towards their Jinchuuriki was stupid. Stupid ignorance. I don't think it was stupid in retrospect though. I thought it was pretty evidently stupid from the near beginning of the manga.

                      The fox seemed pretty sealed at the beginning, so now you're basically kicking around a scapegoat for this huge menace that ruined lives back in the day.

                      Now once Gaara entered the picture, though…

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                        @Daz:

                        That number 4 still amazes me with its awfulness; its seriously some of the worst perspective fuckuppery I've ever seen. How did any editor ever accept it?

                        I thought the point was that it was supposed to be a perspective trick in the first place.

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                          @Yobiyopi:

                          Was all of this secret stuff made to "protect" (?) naruto from harm? Because if that is the case, throwing him in the chuunin exams where he could die wasn't the most brilliant idea after all the secret stuff made.

                          Not from physical harm I presume. I mean if you were to find out that the reason you're being ostracized by half the adults in your village is because your father out of desperation sealed a powerful creature inside of you without your consent, you'd feel some type of way too.

                          @Yobiyopi:

                          (also that brings up the point that Kakashi could have protected everyone in the mist village by spamming kamui and other broken stuff).

                          Except for the part where Kakashi didn't yet have access to his Mangekyo Sharingan and even if he did wouldn't have been able to get much mileage out of it.

                          Originally Posted by Ubiq

                          I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                            @KingBepo:

                            "You could pretty much say i wrote Naruto (…) You could definitely say that i have impacted the story of Naruto ..."

                            ....well...no ? but congratulations anyway

                            I think you may have missed the implied sarcasm

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                              @Yobiyopi:

                              Was all of this secret stuff made to "protect" (?) naruto from harm? Because if that is the case, throwing him in the chuunin exams where he could die wasn't the most brilliant idea after all the secret stuff made. Or even sending him in any mission for the matter, since ninjas were ready to die for the mission's sake at times (also that brings up the point that Kakashi could have protected everyone in the mist village by spamming kamui and other broken stuff).

                              If not, what was the purpose of doing all of this intricate thing? (That in the end didnt even matter since black zetsu was apparently already ahead of everyone)

                              Jinchuuriki's are living weapons made for war and political power. Unless you only have one to throw some weight around in the political spectrum it's going to be pretty useless and even more unpredictable in a war if it doesn't have any fighting experience in life or death siutations.

                              @Purple:

                              The fox seemed pretty sealed at the beginning, so now you're basically kicking around a scapegoat for this huge menace that ruined lives back in the day.

                              Now once Gaara entered the picture, though…

                              I always got the impression not too far into the manga that the seal was vulnerable and if it broke it meant bad news, before Gaara even arrived.

                              http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/28/10/

                              And if you go off the beginning mythos a broken seal surely equaled bad news.

                              But even more to the point of what was really ignorant was the villagers' treatment of an 'innocent child'. I mean, before we knew Naruto was a possible ticking time bomb and before we knew he was only 1 of 9, we knew from the very beginning that the way they treated him was wrong.

                              Everything's Eventual…

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                                Said this many times before, but…

                                Naruto's story only makes sense when its assumed that

                                -trapping the kyuubi inside of him was an unheard of desperation move
                                -Naruto's being an accident just made it absolutely monstrous that someone would do it on PURPOSE to make Gaara
                                -almost no one knew about it. Just the hokage and his top advisors, Kakashi perhaps. (For certain NONE of the kids knew, they just followed their parent's example.)
                                -it was assumed Naruto was basically an amnesiac Kyuubi rather than a host, and so was unfairly blamed and ostracized for what the Kyuubi did... (every single person lost family to it after all) and Iruka was one of the only ones that saw him as his own person.

                                Which just all fell apart when we discovered his dad was hokage, it was planned all along, and that being a Kyuubi host is a generations old tradition that every village does with a ton of precedent including Naruto's bloodline being specifically good at it. At which point the setup makes no sense at all.

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                                  @Robby:

                                  Said this many times before, but…

                                  Naruto's story only makes sense when its assumed that

                                  -trapping the kyuubi inside of him was an unheard of desperation move
                                  -Naruto's being an accident just made it absolutely monstrous that someone would do it on PURPOSE to make Gaara
                                  -almost no one knew about it. Just the hokage and his top advisors, Kakashi perhaps. (For certain NONE of the kids knew, they just followed their parent's example.)
                                  -it was assumed Naruto was basically an amnesiac Kyuubi rather than a host, and so was unfairly blamed and ostracized for what the Kyuubi did... (every single person lost family to it after all) and Iruka was one of the only ones that saw him as his own person.

                                  Which just all fell apart when we discovered his dad was hokage, it was planned all along, and that being a Kyuubi host is a generations old tradition that every village does with a ton of precedent including Naruto's bloodline being specifically good at it. At which point the setup makes no sense at all.

                                  I don't know about Naruto being the Kyubi host as something that was planned all along. In fact, I'm pretty sure that wasn't planned by his parents. Unless you're throwing him being a host for the 9 Tails in together with his 'Destiny'.

                                  But those things don't make the story make sense. Not really.There's no glaring plothole that can't be explained and filled in. Those asumptions just makes the story better like if you were to take out the whole reincarnated destiny thing.

                                  Everything's Eventual…

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                                    @Robby:

                                    Said this many times before, but…

                                    Naruto's story only makes sense when its assumed that

                                    -trapping the kyuubi inside of him was an unheard of desperation move
                                    -Naruto's being an accident just made it absolutely monstrous that someone would do it on PURPOSE to make Gaara
                                    -almost no one knew about it. Just the hokage and his top advisors, Kakashi perhaps. (For certain NONE of the kids knew, they just followed their parent's example.)
                                    -it was assumed Naruto was basically an amnesiac Kyuubi rather than a host, and so was unfairly blamed and ostracized for what the Kyuubi did... (every single person lost family to it after all) and Iruka was one of the only ones that saw him as his own person.

                                    Which just all fell apart when we discovered his dad was hokage, it was planned all along, and that being a Kyuubi host is a generations old tradition that every village does with a ton of precedent including Naruto's bloodline being specifically good at it. At which point the setup makes no sense at all.

                                    That last one where did that bit come from?

                                    Originally Posted by Ubiq

                                    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                      oh is Naruto also a descendant of a super magical mystical family that gives him all sorts of hereditary powers gee what a surprise

                                      You know I kinda liked the message Kishimoto set up when Naruto beat Neji way back when. Shame the next 500 chapters was that being message being stomped into the ground mercilessly.

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                                        Because the Jinchuurikis are considered as the village's most powerful weapons to be used in times of war/defense.

                                        [hide]http://i58.tinypic.com/anite8.png[/hide]You don't want your super-powerful weapon off in some isolated hut away from your village guarded by 2 garbage Anbu who can be killed and your powerful weapon taken away. We all know how terrible the "elite" Anbu fighters are. You need at least a whole village of them to be anywhere near effective.

                                        This would make sense if….again, the villagers (as in ALL the freaking villages) weren't dumbasses and poking the walking atom bomb with a stick. Why provoke and ostracize it if it's supposed to be your super weapon? If Kishi had a good reason why everyone wanted to poke fun at the atom bomb, then I would really like to hear it. Otherwise, I would think it is best to keep a ticking time bomb as FAR AWAY from your village if by chance some idiot pokes the bomb too hard. (And also monitored by some competent people whoever they may be since I SUPPOSE the ANBU are a bunch of chumps in this universe...again...logic.)

                                        And I know that hiding out somewhere with a new name/identity should be fairly effective from keeping any pokemon hunters from finding Naruto. Why? Simply because the Naruto logic dictates that Obito managed to fool everyone even while walking around in plain sight calling himself TOBI and wearing a mask with his right sharingan eye exposed. NO ONE CONNECTED THE DOTS?! Yeah Naruto shouldn't have any problems hiding out somewhere with a new identity since the universe is inhabited only with morons.

                                        So again, why couldn't they just put Naruto in someplace where he could possibly NOT be provoked? Or better yet, WHY provoke him in the first place? It's just so...dumb.

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                                        oh is Naruto also a descendant of a super magical mystical family that gives him all sorts of hereditary powers gee what a surprise

                                        You know I kinda liked the message Kishimoto set up when Naruto beat Neji way back when. Shame the next 500 chapters was that being message being stomped into the ground mercilessly.

                                        In retrospect, it seems Kishi really set himself up for failure at the VERY beginning. If anything, he should have never planted that "hard working schmuck" theme in our heads in the first place because he obviously picked the wrong protagonist to do it. Clearly if he REALLY wanted to communicate that theme, he could have easily done it with Rock Lee (the guy who embodies this theme a LOT more effective than Naruto does). But nope…

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                                          @Outerspec:

                                          I don't know about Naruto being the Kyubi host as something that was planned all along. In fact, I'm pretty sure that wasn't planned by his parents. Unless you're throwing him being a host for the 9 Tails in together with his 'Destiny'.

                                          Maybe it hadn't been planned for at birth and more like "when you're 18", but his father absolutely set him up for it. Had the seals and the chakra split and everything set up, and organized some of it with the frogs and Jiraiya, and very specifically stated he planned on Naruto having those powers.

                                          But those things don't the story make sense. Not really.There's no glaring plothole that can't be explained and filled in. Those asumptions just makes the story better like if you were to take out the whole reincarnated destiny thing.

                                          If you have to fill in the plotholes as a reader, its a problem. Its one thing for a story to not provide every single last detail of something and not hold your hand, letting you fill in some of the blanks, its another to just constantly retcon, contradict, fail to follow up, and introduce elements completely out of nowhere.

                                          There's a heavy difference between not knowing the name of some character's mother, or the history of some random item… and saying that "No, the entire message of the first 300 chapters is opposite of what actually is the case. And also zombies!"

                                          @Green_vs_Red:

                                          That last one where did that bit come from?

                                          His mother was the previous Kyuubi host and her bloodline (and anyone with red hair apparently) are very very good at containing tailed beasts (except at childbirth) and its the reason Bee's village kidnapped her in the first place and the fourth had to go rescue her. (A reason that was first passed off as "because she had red hair")

                                          So Naruto is the son of the Hokage (whose bloodline was like 4 of the 6 hokages in the village)
                                          AND sacred bloodline kyuubi host vessel line
                                          AND has the Kyuubi inside him
                                          AND has the strongest ninjas around as his teachers
                                          AND that's before you start bringing how he and Sasuke are related to the most ancient and powerful ninja of all
                                          AND and are also reincarnations of other powerful uber legendary ninjas.

                                          Yeha, so much for hard work. ALL destiny and bloodlines.

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                                            It's as the old saying goes. All work and no reincarnation or birthline makes Jack a nobody in the Naruto universe

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                                              So Naruto is the son of the Hokage (whose bloodline was like 4 of the 6 hokages in the village)
                                              AND sacred bloodline kyuubi host vessel line
                                              AND has the Kyuubi inside him
                                              AND has the strongest ninjas around as his teachers
                                              AND that's before you start bringing how he and Sasuke are related to the most ancient and powerful ninja of all
                                              AND and are also reincarnations of other powerful uber legendary ninjas.

                                              Yeha, so much for hard work. ALL destiny and bloodlines.

                                              Geez. Kinda makes all the "Naruto with godtier power" fanfics really redundant.

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                                                Yeah, next generation is going to have a really hard time topping that one, all things considered.

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                                                  @Robby:

                                                  Yeah, next generation is going to have a really hard time topping that one, all things considered.

                                                  Hey hey now, don't forget that Burrito is the son of this godtier ninja and his wife who as of The Last is also of some sort of super lineage or something like that. Burrito's got even extra potential to succeed only to be nothing more than a shadow of his father

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                                                    It's all good guys, Burrito can make his keep by getting the powers of a death god. Then all he needs is an absurdly big sword and lightning charged flowing blonde hair.

                                                    wait…..

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                                                      That last one where did that bit come from?

                                                      He's saying if you assume it to be true (or if it were the case) then it would make more sense. He's not saying that's how it actually was.

                                                      @valiantt:

                                                      This would make sense if….again, the villagers (as in ALL the freaking villages) weren't dumbasses and poking the walking atom bomb with a stick. Why provoke and ostracize it if it's supposed to be your super weapon? If Kishi had a good reason why everyone wanted to poke fun at the atom bomb, then I would really like to hear it. Otherwise, I would think it is best to keep a ticking time bomb as FAR AWAY from your village if by chance some idiot pokes the bomb too hard. (And also monitored by some competent people whoever they may be since I SUPPOSE the ANBU are a bunch of chumps in this universe...again...logic.)

                                                      And I know that hiding out somewhere with a new name/identity should be fairly effective from keeping any pokemon hunters from finding Naruto. Why? Simply because the Naruto logic dictates that Obito managed to fool everyone even while walking around in plain sight calling himself TOBI and wearing a mask with his right sharingan eye exposed. NO ONE CONNECTED THE DOTS?! Yeah Naruto shouldn't have any problems hiding out somewhere with a new identity since the universe is inhabited only with morons.

                                                      So again, why couldn't they just put Naruto in someplace where he could possibly NOT be provoked? Or better yet, WHY provoke him in the first place? It's just so...dumb.

                                                      No one thinks there's a "good" the reason for what the villager's did. I made a whole post here about it.

                                                      http://www.apforums.netwww.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=39612&page=361&p=3189911&viewfull=1#post3189911

                                                      There's just a reason. It's stupid, no one's arguing otherwise. That's just how the people operate in that world. Yes, there is reason behind it and Kishi treats it as a normal thing in the Naruniverse but it's a reason operated on most of the people being ignorant. Still, it's a better idea than leaving him away from the village to be taken or influenced by another nation. I don't think it was the name that fooled everyone in the manga. I think it was the fact that Obito was a very low ranking Uchiha boy. He presumably died during the war. Only Kakashi saw him with the Sharingan. Those few who did know Obito some 15 years ago probably didn't think he was back alive and all grown up now trying to take over the world.

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                                                      If you have to fill in the plotholes as a reader, its a problem. Its one thing for a story to not provide every single last detail of something and not hold your hand, letting you fill in some of the blanks, its another to just constantly retcon, contradict, fail to follow up, and introduce elements completely out of nowhere.

                                                      There's a heavy difference between not knowing the name of some character's mother, or the history of some random item… and saying that "No, the entire message of the first 300 chapters is opposite of what actually is the case. And also zombies!".

                                                      The setup still makes sense. There was just a bunch of unnecessary crap added on to it. That's what I'm trying to say. The unnecessary reincarnation, super bloodlines, and destiny just add lead to the storyline and it takes away the impact of the beginning story and themes, but it doesn't take away from the…continuity of Naruto's beginnings? Like, Naruto is still the little orphan boy with the Kyubi in his stomach who was hated by the village. He just happens to be the little destined orphan boy who's related to a lot of famous people and hated by the village.

                                                      Its been shown time and time again though that no matter who you're related to or what your standing is, if you're a Jinchuuriki you'll still be hated though so moot for the bloodline and being the 4th's son. Of course, the village didn't even know he was the 4th's son, Kushina's son, or of course that he was the reincarnation of Ashura. Nobody knew that he was the reincarnation of Ashura...

                                                      Everything's Eventual…

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                                                        The real question is: If Jiraya, Naruto Godfather, could take him when he was only 13 years old and for 3 entire years. Why couldn't, and why did that not happen, when he was younger?
                                                        Did Jiraya really didn't gave a fuck about his Godson for 13 entire years?

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                                                          Jiraiya was too busy chasing Oro's sweet, sweet ass for 13 years or more

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                                                            Scan for the upcoming Kakashi novel :

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                                                              Even Speedwagon thinks Naruto is too dead for this.

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                                                                One thing keeps bothering me though. Obito became what he was only because of his hatred for Kakashi, cause' Kakashi killed Rin. But was it , at any point, explained why Kakashi did it? I mean seriously, did Kishimoto ever explain it in the manga??

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                                                                  One thing keeps bothering me though. Obito became what he was only because of his hatred for Kakashi, cause' Kakashi killed Rin. But was it , at any point, explained why Kakashi did it? I mean seriously, did Kishimoto ever explain it in the manga??

                                                                  apparently she had the three-tails forcibly sealed into her by Madara. To prevent herself being used against Konoha, she had Kakashi kill her.

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                                                                    She did? well killing a little girl seems a little bit extreme. He could have offered help, send her to Konoha.

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                                                                      That number 4 still amazes me with its awfulness; its seriously some of the worst perspective fuckuppery I've ever seen. How did any editor ever accept it?

                                                                      why do you find it so awful? I think it's fine, and it goes back to a time when Kishi actually cared. There is a lot more attention to detail and colors than most of the other 9 images

                                                                      One Punch Man ITALIAN scans: [http://mykommunity.blogspot.it/searc…/one punch man](http://mykommunity.blogspot.it/search/label/one punch man) (READ ONLINE: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/141870/...h1_by_no-group)

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                                                                        I think you may have missed the implied sarcasm

                                                                        Could be , i never watched his videos before.

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                                                                          why do you find it so awful? I think it's fine, and it goes back to a time when Kishi actually cared. There is a lot more attention to detail and colors than most of the other 9 images

                                                                          Look at Naruto trying to pop Kuramas snot-bubble. The ONLY way the spread could make any sense is if Naruto was posing for someone elses photo or something. "Naruto, move your hand juuust a bit more to the right! Lawlz, now it totally looks like you'll pop the snot bubble, even though you're miles apart"

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                                                                            Posing like you're about to pop Kurama's snot bubble in Konoha is akin to posing like you're holding up the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy.

                                                                            It's a tourist attraction.

                                                                            Which goes into the topic of how silly, neutered, and nonintimidating the 9 Tailed Kyubi has become.

                                                                            Everything's Eventual…

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                                                                              Are you guys still gonna try to hit the 500 pages mark?

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                                                                                It will probably happen, considering there will be the spin off, new movie and naruto just won't go away.

                                                                                To support Viz and SHUEISHAs MANGA Plus service hosting all Jump manga for FREE, WORLDWIDE and day of release, Arlong Park will now support the official release.

                                                                                Official chapter discussions now start Sundays at Noon, EST.

                                                                                Please do not post threads when scan sites release their version.

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                                                                                  Does anybody know around what date/ month episode of anime with 8 gates being opened should air?

                                                                                  I finished reading Naruto some time ago and I am really interested in seeing only few moments / episodes of it for animation/ action value, 8 gates Gai vs Madara is one of those that I would like to see sooner than later.

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                                                                                    Isn't that the idea? Seems like way too much of an oversight for it NOT to have been intended that way…

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                                                                                      @ShimpanzeeThat:

                                                                                      She did? well killing a little girl seems a little bit extreme. He could have offered help, send her to Konoha.

                                                                                      He wanted to. She didn't let him. Kakashi was going to use his raikiri to kill an enemy before she stepped in the way. She basically committed suicide.

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                                                                                        Oh boy, more designs for the musical are out.

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                                                                                        http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-23/naruto-stage-musical-unveils-orochimaru-jiraiya-in-costume/.83643

                                                                                        One Pace - The One Piece anime without the filler and padding.

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                                                                                          Lol at Orochimaru and that smug-ass smile on Kabuto.

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                                                                                            @Daz:

                                                                                            Look at Naruto trying to pop Kuramas snot-bubble. The ONLY way the spread could make any sense is if Naruto was posing for someone elses photo or something. "Naruto, move your hand juuust a bit more to the right! Lawlz, now it totally looks like you'll pop the snot bubble, even though you're miles apart"

                                                                                            But… that's exactly what's happening there.

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                                                                                              But the spread is not designed to look like a photo, or like a photo is being taken. Theres no special framing, no one further in the foreground than Naruto that he's posing at, and indeed, he doesn't look like he's posing or have any intention other than popping the bubble. Hence a crummy-looking Sakura being all angry at Naruto at the bottom of the page, in another insane case of angles and perspective.
                                                                                              Perhaps Kakashi i taking a photo? Only then, Naruto would not be visible at all.

                                                                                              Eh, maybe I'm way off here. All I can say is that the spread didn't succesfully convey "Naruto posing for someone elses camera" to me. Maybe if he'd winked at the reader, or done a peace sign, or the whole thing had been framed like a photo…but thats just me nitpicking.

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                                                                                                Oh boy, more designs for the musical are out.

                                                                                                ! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max1000x1500/cms/news/83643/news_xlarge_naruto01.jpg
                                                                                                http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max1000x1500/cms/news/83643/news_xlarge_naruto04.jpg
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                                                                                                http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-23/naruto-stage-musical-unveils-orochimaru-jiraiya-in-costume/.83643

                                                                                                Call me crazy, but the costumes look really good and the actors actually resemble the cast. I'm used to way worse from various other live action adaptions.

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                                                                                                  Oh boy, more designs for the musical are out.

                                                                                                  ! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max1000x1500/cms/news/83643/news_xlarge_naruto01.jpg
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                                                                                                  I… actually like it?

                                                                                                  I don't really see anything wrong with those designs.

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                                                                                                    I love the designs for Jiraya and Zabuza the most, personally

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                                                                                                      Volume 72 will have a "secret" attached to its purchase.

                                                                                                      http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-29/naruto-manga-final-volume-has-secret-on-wrap-around-band/.83838

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                                                                                                        @Daz:

                                                                                                        But the spread is not designed to look like a photo, or like a photo is being taken. Theres no special framing, no one further in the foreground than Naruto that he's posing at, and indeed, he doesn't look like he's posing or have any intention other than popping the bubble. Hence a crummy-looking Sakura being all angry at Naruto at the bottom of the page, in another insane case of angles and perspective.
                                                                                                        Perhaps Kakashi i taking a photo? Only then, Naruto would not be visible at all.

                                                                                                        Eh, maybe I'm way off here. All I can say is that the spread didn't succesfully convey "Naruto posing for someone elses camera" to me. Maybe if he'd winked at the reader, or done a peace sign, or the whole thing had been framed like a photo…but thats just me nitpicking.

                                                                                                        wow that's waaaay too much over-analizing a simple color-spread. So, in any other color spread in any other manga in history, who are the characters posing for? Who's taking the photo? It's just an image made for the cover of a chapter, and yes the meaning is that Naruto is fakingly "popping" the fox's bubble with false perspective… man, yes, you're nitpicking

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