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    Eiichiro Oda: " I want ranks among the mangaka"

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      Source: Sankakucomplex
      Sankaku's title for the article: Eiichiro Oda: "I am better than other mangaka"

      One Piece mangaka Eiichiro Oda has given an interview explaining his dissatisfaction with the fact that there are no ranks amongst mangaka, and that there is no special title other than plain “mangaka” available to demonstrate he is no mere mangaka.
      The interview, with fellow mangaka Shinobu Kaitani, author of One Outs and others:

      Kaitani: I think a good thing about being a mangaka is that there is no rank. Of course, there are differences in popularity, but when everyone is a pro we are all putting all we have into our works according to our abilities.”
      Oda: Well, I think the opposite. I want to have a rank. It’s like I’m trying as hard as I do, and I’m just a “mangaka” like everyone else?
      Of course, if you are a long-time veteran you get called “master” [shishou], but there should be a title for younger masters. “Fantasista” or something.
      Kaitani: You want an official position or something?
      Oda: Right, right, that’s it! You get a title like “section chief” as a working adult. It’s like proof of how hard you tried. As a mangaka you are always just a “mangaka.”
      Kaitani: You want to be able to level up from “mangaka” to “manga-sennin” then?
      Oda: Yes, yes – I want to be able to level up like that. Being able to aim for that would be good.

      That Oda has such authoritarian leanings is perhaps surprising – apparently being a multi-millionaire and author of the most popular manga in history is not recognition enough.
      Reactions vary from considering his desires embarrassingly juvenile to sympathy at his lack of “recognition” – although it seems unlikely his fellow mangaka, most of whom languish in relative poverty at the mercy of rapacious publishers, will be too pleased.

      Greg's post about the interview:
      http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1852437&postcount=6774
      http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1854594&postcount=6817@Aohige_AP:

      Not only is this article YEARS old, they are talking about rankings in a manner like karate belt rankings, in a JOKING manner.

      Sankaku is sensationalist bullshit.

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      The original article is legit, Sankakubullshitplex one is not.

      The original interview had "(laughs)" and Oda speaks in his child-like screwing around speech, much like in his SBS when he's not being serious. It's OBVIOUS they're playing around.
      And what he's saying is, if there was a rank up (or level up) system, mangaka might feel more motivated to go up in ranks, like karate belts.
      And no, once again, HE'S NOT BEING SERIOUS. Nor did he say what these smut articles claims he said.

      This article is from back in 2009.
      Let me tell you EXACTLY why this Sankakuidiotplex is picking it up NOW, a whole year and a half later.
      Because some One Piece hater in Japan decided to pick this article up recently (yesterday, on 3/22) and reword it to make Oda sound more assholeish, and started a thread in VIP, an infamous troll-fest 2ch board similar to 4chan's /b/, racking up tons of replies from his trolling.

      That's this Sanakumoronplex's "news source".
      Hell it may even be second-hand source from one of the troll blogs that decided to pick up the VIP thread.
      Oda never said "I shouldn't be ranked the same with everyone else" like that "news source" headline reads. Not once.

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        Greg posted this interview a while ago. Back when Strong World came out?

        Stay salty, sankaku.

        Originally Posted by Wagomu

        There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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          That's hilarious.

          I can't tell if he's being serious honestly.

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                I tought that Oda was humbler than that.

                Well, If I had the same rank as kubo and kishimoto I'd think like that too.

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                  1. Sankaku seems to have a grudge against one piece mostly.
                    Look at how "agressive" is the title. Oda never said he was the best or better.

                  Let's asusme he is serious for a moment.

                  He wants the work to be recognized. I assume not by sells but by time. That way even think it of a good way, if you work as a mangaka for 10 years… you may be a senior mangaka.
                  And Even if your mangas where on the shadows... people who look at who are senior will find you and your sells will increase.

                  1. Also gotta love the comments on sankaku itself against one piece, where everything they can mention is the art style.

                  2. And yeah, even if the title said something oda didn't actually say... it's true he is better than other mangaka... not the best but not the worst... So technically he is better than others


                  On a side note i don't feel it's oda trying to rub onto other peoples face either. Going by time being a mangaka many other minor people would have higher ranking tham him.

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                    first he never says he is BETTER than someone else, basically saying he just wish that after time or whatever you upgraded to say a veteren mangaka instead of always just being a mangaka.

                    dumb imo, you don't refer to book authors as a super author or anything. they are just authors.

                    also its tough to tell sarcasm/joking on internet, but those responses to me don't sound serious at all

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                      :Lmao @ Sankaku.

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                        Guys, think of it like this.

                        Oda works so hard on his series he went home like once in 2009/10 (I forget which).

                        Then there's people like Kubo who pretty much expresses the same desire for recognition, while wasting whole pages on black box letter pannels, pages dedicated to two of three sentenced exchanged between two characters, entiere pages reserved solely for ginormous "reaction" shots, repeats of stuff from previous channels verbatim and then devotes alot of pages to the settling of dust.

                        While also lacking any idea on how to keep a story consistent even with three people to help him out.

                        And then there's Togashi, who does 10, last week a record 20, chapters a year and then goes on to lye around doing nothing for 10 months of the year while his fans have been waiting to see the end of the current arc for more then 5 years, while most of the former main cast have not apeared for half a decade.

                        You'd like to get some sort of differentiation from these "a list" mangaka too.

                        Plus yeah the title.

                        So this sankaku website tries to be edgy by being hatefull to OP eh ?

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                          Its ok to be a bit arrogant as long as your skills live up to it.

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                            I too thought he was more humble and down-to-earth than that.
                            But then again, he does work his ass off. Compared to, indeed, Kubo, who keeps taking the piss with his fans and still gets high ratings.
                            You can compare this to the music industry. Empty hitmachines like J Bieber (sorry for the mention) and the likes get the same, if not more, amount of fans, press attention and money compared to good artists who put heart, soul and work in their music.
                            A comforting thought for both those good mangaka and musicians is that their work will last, unlike that of the others.

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                              Lol well I think at least it's not possible to blame the guy, his story is published in the same magazine as mangas such as reborn, naruto and bleach…

                              He just wants recognition for his amazing manga, as well as for people to strife for greatness rather than herpness filled with
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                                Seems to me, oda wants a goal to reach.
                                Having everything makes a person lazy.

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                                  @No:

                                  Guys, think of it like this.

                                  Oda works so hard on his series he went home like once in 2009/10 (I forget which).

                                  Then there's people like Kubo who pretty much expresses the same desire for recognition, while wasting whole pages on black box letter pannels, pages dedicated to two of three sentenced exchanged between two characters, entiere pages reserved solely for ginormous "reaction" shots, repeats of stuff from previous channels verbatim and then devotes alot of pages to the settling of dust.

                                  While also lacking any idea on how to keep a story consistent even with three people to help him out.

                                  And then there's Togashi, who does 10, last week a record 20, chapters a year and then goes on to lye around doing nothing for 10 months of the year while his fans have been waiting to see the end of the current arc for more then 5 years, while most of the former main cast have not apeared for half a decade.

                                  You'd like to get some sort of differentiation from these "a list" mangaka too.

                                  Plus yeah the title.

                                  So this sankaku website tries to be edgy by being hatefull to OP eh ?

                                  But then again, how would they rank mangaka? By seniority? Bleach's been running for 11 years, so should Kubo also get some fancy title?

                                  Anyhow, what does this interview really say?

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                                    1. Sankaku seems to have a grudge against one piece mostly.
                                      Look at how "agressive" is the title. Oda never said he was the best or better.

                                    I'm not sure if it's a "grudge" or they just try to explore One Piece's popularity, but yeah, they're always this aggressive towards the series and Oda. Pretty pathetic but nothing new really.

                                    Anyway, Sankaku is like the The Sun of anime/manga news.

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                                        Oda does some great work. He seemed sort of boastful, if he was serious.
                                        But I think he has sort of reached a level of greatness, that it is odd he thinks he is considered he is like everyone else.

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                                          @Strawhat:

                                          But then again, how would they rank mangaka? By seniority? Bleach's been running for 11 years, so should Kubo also get some fancy title?

                                          Anyhow, what does this interview really say?

                                          I'm just saying I can sort of understand if he wouldn't like to be considered as the same type of creator as these two.

                                          Not sure about how you would do that, though. But Kubo would certainly deserve a "fancy" title alright.

                                          And I think I know which.

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                                            Aside from their pathetic spin on it, Sankaku are treating this as something new?

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                                              Yeah, I agree that having a goal would probably make one piece even better as a manga. Goals are always a good motivator.

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                                                Oda is such a cool dude, he wants to inspire direct competition between the Mangaka. He wants them to strive to be better than they are by dangling a new carrot over their head.

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                                                There will be Punch and Pie!

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                                                    Original discussion

                                                    http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=1849836#post1849836

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                                                      @fistsofrage:

                                                      Yeah, I agree that having a goal would probably make one piece even better as a manga. Goals are always a good motivator.

                                                      Excuse me ? :wassat:

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                                                        @gerbilbob:

                                                        Seems to me, oda wants a goal to reach.
                                                        Having everything makes a person lazy.

                                                        I think you're right. And I understand Oda, if this is the case. Once you reach your dream, there's not as much to keep you going as there was before. So giving mangaka titles or leves to progress within, Oda would have a new goal to reach and become more excited about the manga (not that he isn't working hard or doing a good job now, which I believe he is).

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                                                          Original discussion

                                                          http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=1849836#post1849836

                                                          Added Greg's post.
                                                          My memory became sloppy recently.

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                                                            Uh, what?

                                                            Not only is this article YEARS old, they are talking about rankings in a manner like karate belt rankings, in a JOKING manner.

                                                            Sankaku is sensationalist bullshit.

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                                                              Well then, what rank will Kentaro Miura get?:cheerful: Author of the Berserk.

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                                                              And, oh, looks like Ichigo knows more than he is letting on and can't help but strike his signature pose: Loosely holding his sword, knees bent, with the dumbest look of shock on his face….Classic Bleach

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                                                                Hurr durr a porn blog makes fun of my manga

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                                                                  @Aohige_AP:

                                                                  Not only is this article YEARS old, they are talking about rankings in a manner like karate belt rankings, in a JOKING manner.

                                                                  imagines World Martial Arts Tournament featuring mangaka

                                                                  Glorious.

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                                                                    Sankaku sensationalizes old news

                                                                    Then posts an article about a new Tenga

                                                                    Tenga article gets more hits

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                                                                      If this is true, then this is for Oda

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                                                                        A white box.

                                                                        Wouldn't Kubo like that more.

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                                                                          Indeed. The White Box is a prize for those who truly know how to feel it with wonders. 👅

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                                                                            LOL at that Cyan!

                                                                            Anyway, I imagine that with mangaka-rankings, kinda like RPG leveling up Togashi might continue HXH faster, it would be kinda like playing DQ for him!!

                                                                            "If I finish my manuscript in time I am gonna level up!!! I might aqcuire the new mangaka-skill "Quick Tone"!!! LOL

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                                                                              I'm reading the HXH thread with the original discussion. It's unrelated, but I've a question.

                                                                              • Only towards the comic. I’m really trailing when it comes to my private life. Yet again, I’ve only been home once this year. I’m busy so there’s no choice there really.

                                                                              What about his sex life? :argh
                                                                              Unless he's doing his wife on his desk, all over the sketches and drawins, whenever she comes to visit him. Hell, maybe he's doing her in front of his assistants! He can't let them go for a few hours, after all, that would be a waste of time.

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                                                                                Seems to me, oda wants a goal to reach.
                                                                                Having everything makes a person lazy.

                                                                                Exactly.
                                                                                He isn't being arrogant, he just wants a goal to reach.

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                                                                                  @Strawhat:

                                                                                  I'm reading the HXH thread with the original discussion. It's unrelated, but I've a question.

                                                                                  What about his sex life? :argh
                                                                                  Unless he's doing his wife on his desk, all over the sketches and drawins, whenever she comes to visit him. Hell, maybe he's doing her in front of his assistants! He can't let them go for a few hours, after all, that would be a waste of time.

                                                                                  Why do you think there's been a noticeable spike in fanservice over the past few years? Clearly he's constantly horny and become insatiable, thus drawing risque stuff is his only reprieve. That's Toei's theory at least.

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                                                                                    It's called self actualization, Oda isn't being arrogant, he deserves the title just as a senior manager deserves a better parking spot over the arrogant out of college manager that just got there and acts like he owns the place because he's a manager as well.

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                                                                                      I tought that Oda was humbler than that.

                                                                                      Well, If I had the same rank as kubo and kishimoto I'd think like that too.

                                                                                      Oda has made other comments about other mangakanas before, I see no problem with this seriously, why the heck should someone deserve the same job as you do and not even try to make their series interesting? or just go on huge hiatus,etc.

                                                                                      I don't see anything wrong with this and I'm not nuthugging Oda by saying this and like some people said already it seems like he wants this as a way of motivation and self realisation.

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                                                                                        Why do you think there's been a noticeable spike in fanservice over the past few years? Clearly he's constantly horny and become insatiable, thus drawing risque stuff is his only reprieve. That's Toei's theory at least.

                                                                                        Well not like Mrs Eiichiro can't come in for a quick stand ? :ninja:

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                                                                                          Why do you people go to SANKAKU COMPLEX for news?

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                                                                                            Even so, in our hearts, Oda already has a high rank…

                                                                                            FECKING. GOD.

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                                                                                                  @No:

                                                                                                  Well not like Mrs Eiichiro can't come in for a quick stand ? :ninja:

                                                                                                  you dirty dog.:ninja:

                                                                                                  anyway back on topic

                                                                                                  this is my first time hearing this from oda, since oda did say he would like a greater title than just a mangaka, don't shounen jump have awards like movie stars do i.e. Oscars, BAFTA's. etc… to see who has the best manga, art, story,music -opening ending etc..

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                                                                                                  • MasterKingJC
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                                                                                                    @TakinawaTonfa:

                                                                                                    Why do you people go to SANKAKU COMPLEX for news?

                                                                                                    My thoughts exactly.

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                                                                                                      As long as Oda keep One Piece good for another 10 years, I would be happy.

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                                                                                                        Oda is totally right. Being one of the most important man in japan he deserves to have a title.

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