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      @steve_dave:

      Never in my post did I say that they should be perfect. I said they need to stop trying to put it out ASAP and instead put a little more time into their work so they won't have as many mistakes. Instead they are so preoccupied with getting the chapter out before anyone else they make unnecessary mistakes.

      Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.

      The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)

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        @Cymelion: Are you telling him to get off his high horse? lol

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          Yes but you see it doesn't work like that. Just because something is free doesn't mean it's not held to a standard or that people can't complain about it. If MS put out an entirely inaccurate scan or didn't clean it at all would you still be saying this? I don't think you would be.

          If that was the case, I'd stop reading MS, and find another source.

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            @Cymelion: Are you telling him to get off his high horse? lol

            :happy:

            Look I get that people appreciate the work they do and he is correct that there should be a level of quality control but sometimes people have rather unique ways of making suggestions that end up coming accross quite conceited sometimes.

            But then again I am probably walking into an argument that has been going for a while and only judging it from my perspective

            Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.

            The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)

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              http://charles-dunn.co.uk/public/pictures/HighHorse.jpg

              Long Ring Long Land !!! 😆

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                The only thing I didn't like about this chapter like everybody else I presume is how the heck Luffy ended up tied up by some random people, It actually left me a little irritated but than it all got better, Luffy owning Van Der Decken like that is just stunning and the same about Zoro's action.

                Over all a very good chapter,
                I absoloutly can't wait for the next one, I just don't seem to be able to relax!

                My name is Dracule Mihawk!! It's too soon for you to die. Discover yourself. See the world!! And grow strong, Zoro!!! However long it may take… I shall await you at the top. Strive with your whole heart and mind to best this blade, fierce one!!! Strive to surpass me, Roronoa Zoro!!!

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                  Well, I was expecting nothing less from Zoro because he had a legendary sensei. Begging Mihawt to train him must have been the most difficult thing Zoro did in his life.

                  Boy, I am sure Zoro is not even close to Mihawk's level yet. Boy that makes me even more excited about Zoro vs Mihawk.

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                    I think Hodi's gonna take one of those energy steroids, and then overpower Zoro. Thank God Sanji didn't die phew

                    Im not sure if thats Oda's style tho, hes hyped up all their training and everything and hes making alot of effort to show how strong theyv become, im not sure hed let any of them lose in any form for a long while, but i could be wrong

                    Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you wish for peace, prepare for war

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                      Crashing the party with a news item that might interest some of ya. Most of you probably know this already, but as people started to post things such as "I can't wait for the next chapter", I felt this information should be spread once again.

                      http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=2173930&postcount=31

                      Read the world pages of your local newspaper if you need to figure out why.

                      Nanlit, Aohige, or well.. Any of the mods really, I think this should be edited to the opening post. People tend to disregard anything that isn't announced by the proper people.

                      In Loving Memory of Toraish, Rex Avium: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=40786 | 3DS Friend Code: 3196-4274-7836

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                        Im not sure if thats Oda's style tho, hes hyped up all their training and everything and hes making alot of effort to show how strong theyv become, im not sure hed let any of them lose in any form for a long while, but i could be wrong

                        Agreed with feeling 😁

                        @Dryish:

                        Crashing the party with a news item that might interest some of ya. Most of you probably know this already, but as people started to post things such as "I can't wait for the next chapter", I felt this information should be spread once again.

                        http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=2173930&postcount=31

                        Read the world pages of your local newspaper if you need to figure out why.

                        NOOOOO … It can't be... My life is over... I am destroyed... Why god WHYYY? :cwy:

                        But what does it say? Please someone I can't read japanese!!

                        My name is Dracule Mihawk!! It's too soon for you to die. Discover yourself. See the world!! And grow strong, Zoro!!! However long it may take… I shall await you at the top. Strive with your whole heart and mind to best this blade, fierce one!!! Strive to surpass me, Roronoa Zoro!!!

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                          The release dates of the next three jumps were pushed back.

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                            Haha cheers blendingur69

                            he only thing I didn't like about this chapter like everybody else I presume is how the heck Luffy ended up tied up by some random people, It actually left me a little irritated but than it all got better, Luffy owning Van Der Decken like that is just stunning and the same about Zoro's action.

                            I think the reason Oda chose to do this maybe is because he was trying to show that he can defeat hardcore enemies with his hands behind his back. Oda has been careful not to show Luffys true power, or any of the straw hats power for that matter, you can tell frm zolo's choice of one sword style.

                            Its gonna be Enies lobby.2, bring on the new techniques

                            Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you wish for peace, prepare for war

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                              It's to be expected though - what is out now was probably able to be pushed out due to printing being mostly done - with the severe restrictions in place at present anything new will be on the lower end of importance.

                              Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.

                              The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)

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                                The only thing I didn't like about this chapter like everybody else I presume is how the heck Luffy ended up tied up by some random people,

                                He didn't want to hurt them and he knew there was a misunderstanding going on, so he didn't fight when they tied him up. The princess was RIGHT THERE, if Dekken hadn't attacked it would have been cleared up in a minute anyway.

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                                    Is it just me or Luffy was better drawn than usual in this chapter?

                                    I especially like this one

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                                      @Ashura_KingFisher:

                                      Is it just me or Luffy was better drawn than usual in this chapter?

                                      I especially like this one

                                      **I think it's intentional, Oda probably wants to make the SH look more "mature."

                                      I don't know if it's just me, but Luffy seems slightly more muscular than before. Not so much in size, but in definition.

                                      Also, iirc it's just a one week break. I initially expected like a one moth break when I heard about the quake, so this is nothing.**

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                                        Also, iirc it's just a one week break. I initially expected like a one moth break when I heard about the quake, so this is nothing.

                                        It's early days - lets call the information at present a best case senerio.(Even though that term alone is a bit bitter)

                                        Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.

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                                          I wish Luffy would be taller but who grews more than 1 inch from 17 to 19?

                                          One week break is just sad, but is necessity. Is it because of the natural disasters or was it scheduled before it?

                                          About Luffy, I just don't like his hair. His look in the panel where he uses CoC is great though.

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                                            So you have always hated Luffy's hair? :U But why

                                            Who exactly is Mumbo?

                                            It's OFFICIAL, UsoppXNami 4ever.

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                                              I wish Luffy would be taller but who grews more than 1 inch from 17 to 19?

                                              Well to be fair - size isn't really exact in One Piece - all characters seem to change size a fair bit 👅

                                              Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.

                                              The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)

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                                                Well to be fair - size isn't really exact in One Piece - all characters seem to change size a fair bit 👅

                                                This reminds me of those bunch of pics that showed how much the giants changed their sizes during their fight against Oars Jr.

                                                But sizes aren't everything👅

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                                                  It just doesn't add charisma. I mean look at Zoro. He looks badass both his wear and hair design.

                                                  I wish Oda add little bit charisma to Luffy. At least his hairs.

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                                                    I think Luffy is taller now. He was wearing Hancock's coat.

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                                                      all characters seem to change size a fair bit 👅

                                                      Especially Franky. He looked pretty small in the Color spread but it could just be the perspective Oda used.

                                                      Oda seems to be toying around with different perspectives in the color spreads lately. Looking forward to the next one for sure.

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                                                        It was trailing the ground, I'm sure. Luffy is still a short shit.

                                                        Edit: Speaking of the color spread, this is the 1st one in 618 chapters that I didn't like. Oda jacked up the perspectives this time.

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                                                        Goal: Prove the Elemental Haki Theory

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                                                          @Nolus:

                                                          This reminds me of those bunch of pics that showed how much the giants changed their sizes during their fight against Oars Jr.

                                                          But sizes aren't everything👅

                                                          Pretty much - also it is extended to other objects as well - the boats in One Piece vary a bit too.

                                                          Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.

                                                          The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)

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                                                            Edit: Speaking of the color spread, this is the 1st one in 618 chapters that I didn't like. Oda jacked up the perspectives this time.

                                                            I thought this one was good I didn't like the one with the cats though. Their feet looked way too small.

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                                                              Really good chapter, Luffy knocking Decken out one hit was epic and what Zoro did was just as epic. Both are showing off why they trained for two years. Once every one gets to the forest, bet it will turn into some all out battle between Hodi's crew and Luffy's and I'm sure if there is no other boss Hodi will fight Luffy in the end with thousands of pills. Also, Sanji well I admit it was sad he turned to stone and didn't get to do a thing but I'm sure they'll make up for it 🆒 Another thing Decken getting turned down ouch, poor guy will never able to look at her the same way 👅 I can't wait for the next chapter, which I guess is in a week of some sort? I'm ok with that 😄

                                                              Luffy fan.

                                                              LuffyxHancock or LuffyxNami? I can't decide.

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                                                                What i'm wondering is what's gonna keep VDD from chasing luffy and crew. I mean, he just needs to throw something and jump on it once more and he's after them once again.

                                                                He already said that his new goal's to kill Luffy and the Princess, and with his ability, what's stopping him from pursuing? Can't wait to find out though

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                                                                  does anyone else think those people are TOO good at tying people up in ropes, I mean that was four people in like .3 seconds, those guys definitely aren't the best people around

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                                                                  what I'm catching up on currently: Gintama, lone wolf & cub, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and lost in poem (by our very own AP member GEPPETTOSMONSTER)

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                                                                    What i'm wondering is what's gonna keep VDD from chasing luffy and crew. I mean, he just needs to throw something and jump on it once more and he's after them once again.

                                                                    He already said that his new goal's to kill Luffy and the Princess, and with his ability, what's stopping him from pursuing? Can't wait to find out though

                                                                    Maybe Caribou is waiting for the opportunity to take Luffy's head and kidnap Shiroashi.

                                                                    Sanji vs Caribou and VDD would be interesting.

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                                                                      does anyone else think those people are TOO good at tying people up in ropes, I mean that was four people in like .3 seconds, those guys definitely aren't the best people around

                                                                      Ha, ha, let's poke fun at generic manga gags 9.9

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                                                                        Maybe Caribou is waiting for the opportunity to take Luffy's head and kidnap Shiroashi.

                                                                        Sanji vs Caribou and VDD would be interesting.

                                                                        Decken's already after the poor girl, it'd be horrible if this creep came after her too 😆 Some how I don't know, I see Luffy taking out both Decken and Hodi. Caribou V.S Sanji I can see, maybe the swordsman guy V.S both Zoro and Brook??

                                                                        Luffy fan.

                                                                        LuffyxHancock or LuffyxNami? I can't decide.

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                                                                          Maybe Caribou is waiting for the opportunity to take Luffy's head and kidnap Shiroashi.

                                                                          Sanji vs Caribou and VDD would be interesting.

                                                                          Err… that is....

                                                                          The inside of his body may be "infinite", but I highly doubt he could capture Shirahoshi (spell it right, please =.=" You spelled it as such that the second kanji would be totally different than what is intended, yet still valid Japanese). There's no way he could expand his surface area to infinite size (or else he would just swallow everything whole), so he probably couldn't stuff Shirahoshi in simply because the minimum cross section of her body is too large.

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                                                                            Decken's already after the poor girl, it'd be horrible if this creep came after her too 😆 Some how I don't know, I see Luffy taking out both Decken and Hodi. Caribou V.S Sanji I can see, maybe the swordsman guy V.S both Zoro and Brook??

                                                                            She is probably the most wanted mermaid at an auction. Her price must be 100 times higher than the regular mermaid. Obvious, Caribou could not resist because he is here for the dinero as well. A battle between the 3 pervs would be something you don't get see every day.😁

                                                                            When there is a will there is a way. Caribou might find a solution to kidnap her

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                                                                              It was trailing the ground, I'm sure. Luffy is still a short shit.

                                                                              Edit: Speaking of the color spread, this is the 1st one in 618 chapters that I didn't like. Oda jacked up the perspectives this time.

                                                                              I'm sure he did it on purpose. Give an Alice in Wonderland vibe.

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                                                                                She is probably the most wanted mermaid at an auction. Her price must be 100 times higher than the regular mermaid. Obvious, Caribou could not resist because he is here for the dinero as well. A battle between the 3 pervs would be something you don't get see every day.😁

                                                                                When there is a will there is a way. Caribou might find a solution to kidnap her

                                                                                I forgot all about Caribou. He's going to eventually fight one of the big three. Like someone said earlier on, it could be Sanji so that he can defend the mermaids' honor but then again Decken is trying to kill a mermaid too. Then what? expect a Sanji versus Decken and Caribou fight???

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                                                                                  What i'm wondering is what's gonna keep VDD from chasing luffy and crew. I mean, he just needs to throw something and jump on it once more and he's after them once again.

                                                                                  He already said that his new goal's to kill Luffy and the Princess, and with his ability, what's stopping him from pursuing? Can't wait to find out though

                                                                                  Maybe he doesn`t want to bump in and fail like the first time.
                                                                                  He saw how strong Luffy is and sure also heard before of this guy.
                                                                                  He most likely thinks about a plan how he can achieve his goals and fight Luffy without being killed in a second.

                                                                                  Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

                                                                                  IslandElbaf/Raftel/GodValley

                                                                                  UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

                                                                                  DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop

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                                                                                    I forgot all about Caribou. He's going to eventually fight one of the big three. Like someone said earlier on, it could be Sanji so that he can defend the mermaids' honor but then again Decken is trying to kill a mermaid too. Then what? expect a Sanji versus Decken and Caribou fight???

                                                                                    I wouldn't like that, Sanji to beat up all those creeps would not be okay in my book, I kinda wan't them all as fodder but Sanji shouldn't get to beat up all of those guys. It wouldn't feel right… but than again that's just my opinion 👅

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                                                                                      What if Vander Decken "threw" his giant? That would be a bit jarring. He might even be able to 'throw' his boat. I don't think the fight with Hodi is over. I'm hoping that we arn't going to have a Strawhats vs Jinbei but I think it might happen.

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                                                                                        What if Vander Decken "threw" his giant? That would be a bit jarring. He might even be able to 'throw' his boat. I don't think the fight with Hodi is over. I'm hoping that we arn't going to have a Strawhats vs Jinbei but I think it might happen.

                                                                                        Oh common, Strawhats fighting Jinbe!? I would scream in pain like a 5 year old if that ever happened, cause I would rip my eyes out!!!

                                                                                        My name is Dracule Mihawk!! It's too soon for you to die. Discover yourself. See the world!! And grow strong, Zoro!!! However long it may take… I shall await you at the top. Strive with your whole heart and mind to best this blade, fierce one!!! Strive to surpass me, Roronoa Zoro!!!

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                                                                                          But Caribou is a logia, so Sanji will need Haki.
                                                                                          Not saying he doesn't have haki, just the Manga hasn't stated he has haki.

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                                                                                            Princess cute but huge has delicate fingers to be able to untie Luffy. She must spend her time in the castle doing needle point with Megalo.

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                                                                                              But Caribou is a logia, so Sanji will need Haki.
                                                                                              Not saying he doesn't have haki, just the Manga hasn't stated he has haki.

                                                                                              Exactly!
                                                                                              I don't even like the idea of him and Zoro having haki, I think it should be (among the crew) Luffy's thing! But ofcourse what ever Oda does about this matter I will come to terms with it,
                                                                                              cause you know it's Oda were talking about 😉

                                                                                              My name is Dracule Mihawk!! It's too soon for you to die. Discover yourself. See the world!! And grow strong, Zoro!!! However long it may take… I shall await you at the top. Strive with your whole heart and mind to best this blade, fierce one!!! Strive to surpass me, Roronoa Zoro!!!

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                                                                                                Good point, Luffy, let alone his ropes are the size of the princesses finger tips, that has to be hard. Hahhahaha

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                                                                                                  Ha, ha, let's poke fun at generic manga gags 9.9

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                                                                                                  maybe the swordsman guy V.S both Zoro and Brook??

                                                                                                  I hope not that would make the timeskip seem like quite a fail if they needed to double team a guy already

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                                                                                                  what I'm catching up on currently: Gintama, lone wolf & cub, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and lost in poem (by our very own AP member GEPPETTOSMONSTER)

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                                                                                                    I do not think that any other Straw Hat besides Luffy has haki or has mastered haki. That doesn't mean that they won't develop over time though. I'm just not expecting any other crew member to use haki in a fight this arc.

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                                                                                                      I do not think that any other Straw Hat besides Luffy has haki or has mastered haki. That doesn't mean that they won't develop over time though. I'm just not expecting any other crew member to use haki in a fight this arc.

                                                                                                      Oh yeah, was going to add that about the developement too but ok, too late lol 😁

                                                                                                      My name is Dracule Mihawk!! It's too soon for you to die. Discover yourself. See the world!! And grow strong, Zoro!!! However long it may take… I shall await you at the top. Strive with your whole heart and mind to best this blade, fierce one!!! Strive to surpass me, Roronoa Zoro!!!

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                                                                                                        Luffy's stare when he used CotC was fucking awesome. That part of the chapter is second only to the awesomeness that is Zoro.

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