to robin it doesnt =p
seriously til i see otherwise im going by her statment that strength is useless against her(if your a normal sized man) Cause thats what Oda has said….
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Strawhats vs CP9 (who will fight?)
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to robin it doesnt =p
seriously til i see otherwise im going by her statment that strength is useless against her(if your a normal sized man) Cause thats what Oda has said….
Oda never said that strengh was completly use less to her, robin herself said so. And thats probley because she never met anyone with such strenght or body mass.
for example she almost lost in skypiea.
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and who writes robins lines ?
thats right its Oda=pand i assume that your refering to yama ?
well then no she didnt she just wanted to lure him away from the historical things so that he wouldnt destroy something of historical value,
when she had done that she snapped him like a twig without a problem. -
well you gotta see whos telling the line to,
kreig is a jerk who thinks hes the best and would rather make up some explanation to why mihawk was stronger than him than accept the truth,Robin had no reason to lie when she said that and she proved it by taking down the fast flying pell without breaking a sweat thus i belive her just as i belive it when mihawk said he took down kreigs fleet cause he was bored,
and honestly we dont know if mihawk has a DF or not so maybe kreig was telling the truth =p though i doubt it cause of the above reasons.
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well you gotta see whos telling the line to,
kreig is a jerk who thinks hes the best and would rather make up some explanation to why mihawk was stronger than him than accept the truth,Robin had no reason to lie when she said that and she proved it by taking down the fast flying pell without breaking a sweat thus i belive her just as i belive it when mihawk said he took down kreigs fleet cause he was bored,
and honestly we dont know if mihawk has a DF or not so maybe kreig was telling the truth =p though i doubt it cause of the above reasons.
I dought robin has seen such powerful people who weren't logia users before meeting strawhats
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well she seems to have been present at that ohara incident where supposedly the buster call was present and they had plenty of high ranking marines that she sunk.
shes meet the whole BW and probably have been associated with lots of other crimnal organisations with lots of strong people,
and then being chased by the marine and the WG would probably mean that shes meet some pretty strong marines and WG people in her time.
id say that shes meet strong people before and still as stated til i see proof that really strong people can take her then im sticking with her statment as the truth…..
EDIT and you dont have to quote it just takes up alot of extra space=p
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it seems we got a little off topic here ,eh boys? lol
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I don't think that she met any marines exepct Ao kigi who is a ligia user.
And when was the buster fleet present in front of robin?
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why should she have only have met aokiji ?
any particular reason other than that it would help your argument =p
seriously though shes a person whos been wanted for 20 years and a person that the WG have a particular intrest in thus they should have spent alot of man power on finding her not just send on man….well she sank 6 of their ships didnt she ?
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why should she have only have met aokiji ?
any particular reason other than that it would help your argument =p
seriously though shes a person whos been wanted for 20 years and a person that the WG have a particular intrest in thus they should have spent alot of man power on finding her not just send on man….
well she sank 6 of their ships didnt she ?
i think she would have to atleast see them to do that....It was never said that she sunk 6 of the buster fleet.
If she did that when she was 8 then the buster call would be no real threat, and the whole reason Robin joined the government is to make sure the buster call does not get to the strawhats.
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allright then if you say so although i was pretty sure that i had read that she had sunk 6 of their ships during the ohara incident…..
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No. In fact, I have been arguing that she never sunk any ships at all… after all, we only heard the story from Smoker's mouth, who himself would be fed a lie if the only real reason to capture Robin is she can translate the polyglyphs.
And if she did sink ships, they would NOT have been part of the fleet. As I have mentioned in previous threads, and Ivotas too, if I recall, if she sunk so many of their ships when she was 8 WHY WOULD SHE FEAR THE BUSTER CALL?
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i dunno maybe cause with all her power doing a godly effort she barley managed to sink those 6 ships thus she fears it cause she knows she cant take on all the ships and then theres the vice admirals that are aboard maybe she fears them…..
or maybe she knows that she could manage to take it but doesnt want to risk seeing her friends get killed in the fight .
or maybe your theory is truewho knows.
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but still i dun find it reasonable for nami to fight cp9 o_O cp9 r like superhumans and some even have devils fruit abilities. theyre all crazy ppl. nami had a hard time against one of the baroque works agents; cp9 is like 10000 levels above ANY BW agent. i jus dun think nami stands a chance against them at ALL
After reading all the One Piece chapters, you still don't realize the whole plot of it? I mean the whole point of One Piece is that the Strawhat crew find an impossible goal and accomplish it, which makes it extremely dramatic and climatic.
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I'll just wait for the chapters to come then I'l find out and enjoy the story!
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i dunno maybe cause with all her power doing a godly effort she barley managed to sink those 6 ships thus she fears it cause she knows she cant take on all the ships and then theres the vice admirals that are aboard maybe she fears them…..
comparing a ship to a person is doesn't make much sense when you are taking about robins power… On a ship there are so many places that she could "flower" and still be effective, however on person she can only "flower" so many times until it just starts toget in the way.
Zoro, I think physically he is just too strong for Robin to be effective against him, after she "flowers" enough times to match his strength to take him down, her own appendages will get in the way.
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so for the last two pages where were the CP9 and Straw Hat Match ups? xD
It's obvious I don't need to suggest Luffy's and Franky's match ups but I do have an interesting thought in mind
SogeKing vs the Zipper Guy Fukurou (don't know the other 3's names)
I read somewhere that they Zipper Guy can't keep a secret thus he zippers his mouth, or something like he can't tell lies? But the Zipper on his mouth has some significance. Imagine a verbal duel between him and Usopp? Maybe Usopp Spell might actually work this time xD!!! But it'll be a version up since he'll call it Soge King Spell! xD
Nami has to fight Kalifa because fighting anyone else doesn't seem fair for her xD honestly who could Nami fight other then Kalifa? Blueno? hell no! The other three were left with Spandam for a reason, they must be pretty damn strong to be protecting the prison place when 4 of the other memebers are on a secret mission….
Just because he looks so bad ass Jyubara has to fight Sanji. I don't know Sanji also has been getting the fights with the ugly people. Kurobi, Bala, Sasori, Bon Clay, WANSE! give him some one cool to fight!! If not he'll fight that white haired guy
I think Chopper is the best match agaisnt Blueno. Just a guess but I think Chopper's nose can counter Blueno's air door thingy. Since way back before in the anime Chopper's nose woke him up when he smelled rain I think Chopper can pick up his sent when he makes doors in the air. Of course it'll only give him like a 1 second advantage but yea a few arm points might break the tekkai xD
No matter what Zoro will always fight the second strongest. I can only assume Kaku is the 2nd strongest because well... I don't know.... Or maybe Jyubara is the 2nd strongest? since he was left with the other two to guard the prison. But unlike Sanji, Zoro gets to fight alot of the cool looking opponents so I can only Guess Zoro fights either Kaku or Jyubara because aside from Lucci they look the coolest xD
Robin I suspect will get Kudomari. Because of all that hair I'm guessing he has a hair fruit xD! i don't know no imagination striking me oh well we'll see what happens
now i'd like to throw my thoughts into this robin argument
I do believe Robin can beat Sanji without a conflict at all
Sanji is the chivalrous type so he'd never fight Robin no matter what. But for the record, All Robin has to clutch is Sanji's legs and he's done, I think that's enough said
Zoro vs Robin however. I think Robin can HOLD Zoro down, but not break him. Zoro has super super duper fuper strength. Remember back in the Whiskey Peak arch he fought the chick with super human strength? that did nothing to him xD! Without Swords I think Zoro's muscles can overcome at least Robin's basic clutch attack. All he has to do is grab one arm and squeeze and Robin will take the damage... Swords obviously Zoro can free himself from Robin's clutch easier since he has more range, but he can't get close enough to actually fight her....
it's true Robin matchs up to Zoro and Sanji but Zoro at least can fend her off. but I think it'll end up a stalemate since well we can't really seeing one beat the other
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hmm… these match up are very interesting, I found the left to right vs right to left (in order) from the colour spread idea is the most interesting one.
however I remember that in some previous threads, there was mentioned about team fight. I really want to see some team fight. in my head the team is Nami, Robin, Chopper, Zoro vs Califa, Kaku, Fukurou, Kumadori. then the other is Sanji, Ussop vs Jyabura, Blueno. then Franky vs Spandam, and Luffy vs Lucci.
but of course that is just my idea.
Z/R Forever!!
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hmm… these match up are very interesting, I found the left to right vs right to left (in order) from the colour spread idea is the most interesting one.
however I remember that in some previous threads, there was mentioned about team fight. I really want to see some team fight. in my head the team is Nami, Robin, Chopper, Zoro vs Califa, Kaku, Fukurou, Kumadori. then the other is Sanji, Ussop vs Jyabura, Blueno. then Franky vs Spandam, and Luffy vs Lucci.
but of course that is just my idea.I think i read something about teamwork as well but it might not work because someone already said something like CP9 are a better team and the best way to take them down is individually. Though teamwork for the straw hats would be awesome they'll have to be UBER awesome to overcome CP9 since so far we've seen the CP9 fighters work together to topple the straw hats so I'll put my money on 1 v 1 fights maybe one 2 v 2 fight like when they fought BW but the main fighters are gonna for sure have 1v1
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My picks:
Luffy vs. Lucci (Duh)
Franky vs. Spandam (Old grudge)
Zoro vs. Kaku (NEW grudge)
Sanji vs. Blueno (Because of what happened on the train)
Nami vs. Califa (Just because I want their clothing ripped to pieces fighting each other)
Paulie vs. Jabura (I'd like to see Paulie strut his stuff, and Jabura seems to be a nice pairing visually, at least)
Chopper vs. Fukurou (The blabbermouth vs. the naive reindeer)
Lulu & Tileston vs. Kumadori (Odd & Odd vs. Odder)
"Mighty Destroyers" & Zambai vs. Oimo & Karsee (Only real line-up remaining)
Square Sisters & Franky Family vs. Government Agents (To hold them off long enough for the fights to commence)
… Note that this may all be moot if we go by Luffy's typical "lose a couple times then turn around with a brilliant counter", in which case the fights may change, and most certainly will change location to either the Government's HQ or Impel Down. The last option is probably what will occur, I think.
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Argh! I couldn't resist the topic (as always). My brand new bet is:
Luffy X Lucchi
Zoro X Spandam (Swords)
Nami X Kalifa
(Nami has a history with spiky things)
Usopp X Kaku (Long noses, Kaku "killed" the ship)
Sanji X The Evil Chinese Kung Fu Guy With Goggles And All
Chopper X The Big Mouth
Robin X The Big Hair
Franky X Blueno (Popeye fight)Okey, I've a bad habit of not remembering long Japanese names. Kick me, and then kiss me…
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what ?
im not comparing a ship to a person i said maybe she knows that there is no way in hell for her to take down the warships and the admirals at the same time whilst protecting her friends as an ansewer for Paulies question of why she feared the buster call….and youve totaly misunderstood it robin doesnt have to match his strength she just puts him in a grip where he cant appy his strength thus rendering it useless and thats hella easy to do when you can grow your arms anywhere,
so what if you can lift a house when your free but when your in that kinda grip it doesnt matter.
and after that all thats left is to snap his limbs one at a time til hes beaten.
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I was thinking Sanji fights Kalifa cause kalifa will beat Nami hence revenge
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Sanji fighting a woman.. kinda hard to imagine
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thats the twist of the story
if it happens nobody would have imagined it. (he will fight with his eyes closed -
I highly doubt Oda would introduce a new Dial-enhanced Clima Tact only for Nami to lose. And, Sanji fighting a woman is like fucking for virginity – it doesn't make sense.
( Fucking for virginity line has been stolen from Zephos )
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….Well, I think we have the same line-up, Yoska.
Originally Posted by Battle Franky
Bad move, bub!
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I´ll just and my opinions without further explenation since this has been talked to death. If it should really be just 8 vs 8 then I bet my money on:
Luffy vs Lucci
Zoro vs Kaku
Nami vs Calipha
Usopp vs Fukuro
Sanji vs. Blueno
Chopper vs Kumadori
Robin vs. Jabura
Franky vs Spandamas a little bonus I think Paulie strangulate Hattori with his ropes. Don´t know where Frankfried fits in. =(
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I´ll just and my opinions without further explenation since this has been talked to death. If it should really be just 8 vs 8 then I bet my money on:
Luffy vs Lucci
Zoro vs Kaku
Nami vs Calipha
Usopp vs Fukuro
Sanji vs. Blueno
Chopper vs Kumadori
Robin vs. Jabura
Franky vs Spandamas a little bonus I think Paulie strangulate Hattori with his ropes. Don´t know where Frankfried fits in. =(
Identical to mine! I think I put it in the chapter 377 thread.. except, Usopp and Chopper have interchangeable villains. Not so sure about those yet.
Frankfried -> Yokozuna!
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I'm not big on making lists. I've made quite a few comments in the past to whom I think certain people will draw. So these are the only matches I'm willing to back, at this point in time.
Luffy vs. Lucci
(DUH!)
Franky vs. Blueno
(I've been pushing this match-up since ch. 352. So, I'm sticking by it to the end)
Sanji vs. Jabura
(Seems like others are predicting this one too. I think it's highly probable.)
Zoro vs. Kumadori
(I'm going out on a major limb here, looks like I'm out on my own with this one.)
…. and that's all I'm willing to call at the moment.
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Frankfried -> Yokozuna!
Hm, nice! However I think that Yokozuna´s biggest moment will be when he finally achieves his goal and stops the Puffing Tom. But in order to do that, Puffing Tom must be on the move again. Perhaps Spandam would try to escape with it. Then Yokozuna would actually stop the train with the same person inside as it was 8 years ago. And who knows, maybe Frankfried will be on the train too since he seems to be to Spandam what Hattori is to Lucci.
@Battle:
Franky vs. Blueno (I've been pushing this match-up since ch. 352. So, I'm sticking by it to the end)
Thought it goes against my personal listing I think I should might give you interesting fought for thought that might backup your match-up. In chapter 339 Blueno has seen how Franky powers up. This knowledge might be a lot worth in a fight.
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A question: who's Frankfried??
Is it the elephant??
Most of the match ups here sound logical but Oda can still surprise us
That's the reason why I like One Piece so muchPraise Oda for being our GOD
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Yep Frankfried is the elephant. I know he´s no fighter but I just had to list him there.
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For me the main fighters of the strawhats are in the actual situation :luffy , zorro, sanji and franky so they have to fight the main fighters of the cp9, here are my expectations:
-Luffy vs lucci
-Zorro vs spandam ( yes i m pretty sure that he is not as weak as everybody seems to think .), He is the only swordsman who has a high position among the actual opponents and he is also the boss .
-Sanji vs jabura ( jabura seems to be the fourth thougher in the cp9, he hasn't been sent with lucci and the others but it doesn't mean that he is weak .)
-Franky vs kaku ( ????) : yes it looks very strange but shipwright vs shipwright is an interresting duel and those two guys don't really like each other from the beggining and i think that franky is a better opponent to avenge the going merry than usopp ( even if usopp is the one who has to take revenge ).
Among lucci and kaku who were both shipwrights i choose kaku because he is the one who has really been a shipwright from the beggening to the end ( even revealed as a cp9 he still says that he is a shipwright ) .
For the others it could be bruno vs robin and kalifa vs pauli ( that guy has to get an important fight to show how useful his ropes could be in a battle and kalifa who fight with a whip is a perfect opponent for him ) . -
I don't think that Robin will fight in this battle (or at least not with one of the other 3 CP9)
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My guesses:
Luffy Vs. Lucchi
Zoro Vs. Kaku
Nami Vs. Kalifa
Usopp Vs. Fukurou
Sanji Vs. Zyabura
Chopper Vs. Buleno
Robin Vs. KumodoriMaybe Pauly fights Lucchi and Luffy goes for Aokiji.. but that's unlikely..
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if nami fights a cp9 member, itll be very interesting. i know that theres a lot of "do the impossible" stuff in one piece and i actually understand one piece very well -_- but nami has to rely on her weapon a lot durin her fight with a cp9 member and it seems like shell have to be really lucky to win her fight. usopp will be ok. i know he will come through even though hes in a similar situation as nami, but namis not the warrior type lol… but whatever im sure oda will make her fight and miracles will be performed it jus seems like a huge stretch, doesnt it?
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I think Soge King will fight kaku. An opponent with such agility and speed will
test his marksmanship. Plus his new weapon is probley enhanced by dials.
so maybe he'll be able to attack even without his bullets. -
I don't wanna name who is fighting who, but I am most looking forward to Sogeking (Usopp) and Nami's fight, especially with Sogeking's dials and Nami's "Perfect Cliamtact". I think their fights will be the most creative.
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here are my predicions:
Luffy vs Lucci
Zoro vs Kumadori
Robin vs Calipha
Nami vs Fukurou
Sogeking vs Kaku
Franky vs Spandam
Chopper vs Blueno
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if nami fights a cp9 member, itll be very interesting. i know that theres a lot of "do the impossible" stuff in one piece and i actually understand one piece very well -_- but nami has to rely on her weapon a lot durin her fight with a cp9 member and it seems like shell have to be really lucky to win her fight. usopp will be ok. i know he will come through even though hes in a similar situation as nami, but namis not the warrior type lol… but whatever im sure oda will make her fight and miracles will be performed it jus seems like a huge stretch, doesnt it?
Maybe she drops her weapon or has it taken from her by her opponent, and her impending death causes Robin to intervene.
That's my theory anyway, I really don't think Nami has any advantages except one, surprise. The cp9 member most probably isn't familiar with impact dials, and maybe there is even a "reject" dial on her new weapon. If that's the case and she gets a good reject hit off, maybe she won't need help. Whoever she fights won't be expecting a blast ten times as powerful as the attack he hit her with, after all.
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Maybe she drops her weapon or has it taken from her by her opponent, and her impending death causes Robin to intervene.
That's my theory anyway, I really don't think Nami has any advantages except one, surprise. The cp9 member most probably isn't familiar with impact dials, and maybe there is even a "reject" dial on her new weapon. If that's the case and she gets a good reject hit off, maybe she won't need help. Whoever she fights won't be expecting a blast ten times as powerful as the attack he hit her with, after all.
I doubt Nami has a reject dial since that's one of the ancient dials and very rare, i'm guessing it's just regular impact, problely a breeze dial as well maybe a flash or axe dial to top it off.
But if Nami can absorb enough kinetic energy from Kalipha then one or two impacts are all she needs xD I think Nami will pull out a win with less luck and more wit this time.
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I don't also think that nami's fight will depend on luck.
The only problem is getting Soge King to tell her how to use it. -
sorry but who said that robin will fight?
nami in her arc didn't fight… or i'm wrong?
anyway 4 sure i think that old cp9 members are taken yet.
nami vs kalifa
luffy vs luccy (started)
zoro vs kaku (started)
sanji vs blueno (started)
spandam vs franky (started)
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sorry but who said that robin will fight?
nami in her arc didn't fight… or i'm wrong?Did she have an opponent there? No, it was 4 vs 4. This time it´s 8 vs 8. It doesn´t say that she has to fight but since we saw this one certain color spread it is fair game to assume that she will fight.
Plus Lucci seems to be keeping his promise, but do you still think that Robin would be obedient to CP9 is the egomaniac Spandam desides to use the Buster Call? She wouldn´t have any reason to obey CP9 don´t you agree?
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I don't think the upgraded Clima Tact will have Impact Dials. It's just not Nami's style so I don't think Ussop would make her such a weapon. The reason for that would be because using Impact (and Reject) Dials would be a suicide weapon for Nami. Recall that the user has to bear the feedback from the hit. A strong Impact shot would probably shatter her arms. For instance, Ussop injured himself by returning Luffy's Bazooka.
Although I did think of a way of eliminating that weakness. Say there are two Impact Dials on each end of the staff. Firing off one would send the feedback back down the rod into the 2nd Dial. Then you would just flip the two ends around and then use the 2nd Dial in the same manner.
Much more likely, they will be Dials that suppliment it's main schtick, ie, elemental and weather effects. Although I got to say I fail to see how this will help her against a 6-form master of the CP9 who can harden their bodies to the same level of steel and move so fast they appear to disapear. And it's obvious she'll be going up against Calipha.
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Soge King will probably fight the big guy with the zipper on his mouth.
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Steel isn't a defense against extreme heat or cold, or a great electric shock!
