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well they may be the "main fighters" but that doesnt mean they can take her she far too much for them to handle you just gotta look at what they can do not their postion on the ship and Robins DF can easily defeat them both,
in my mind zoro and sajni put on more of a show but in the end Robin is the one that is the deadliest fighter.
and on a related note i must state that the the problem with robin is that shes so god-damn overpowered so its hard to find good enemies for her.
Not really. She's a grappler, and while she overcomes the main weakness in grapplers (getting close enough, mainly) she can still be beaten. Saying "Well, her fighting style is better" is, well, BS. I'm sure, as far as fighting styles go, Rokushiki is damn better than any of the Straw Hats, but they'll overcome those. It's the individual that matters, and Oda shows us that many times over. Any technique can be overcome.
EDIT: Don't forget, this is still Shounen. And in shounen, the main fighters will always be stronger. XD
sure she can be beaten just not by Zoro or Sanji XD
there will be a cold day in hell before we will see either of the(especily sanji) beating her.
and i get the feeling that you just want Zoro and sanji to be stronger there really isnt any argument for why they should be able to beat her just that you really really want it to be so.
Actually, I think Sanji'd have an easier time defeating Robin, if he could put the fact she's a girl aside. It's harder to get an effective "pin" agaisnt legs, so she resorts to gripping them; you've seen that in her fights. But, of course, Sanji's legs could easily break out of a grip…
EDIT: And I think you just want Robin to beat win, despite the way it wouldn't work out that way, so we're even.
haha touche
but sanji to me is a definte no no i might consider Zoro being able to fight her to a stand still but sanji wouldnt have a snowballs chance in hell,
and i seriously dont think she has any kinda problem getting a grip on any normal sized person she grows the arms outta their fricking bodys.
and with the his leg strenght can easily get him out then we will just go back to the strength is useless when you cant applie it argument and robin would have no problem of putting him in such a grip,
and as i said the last time i cant see any scenario where Zoro or sanji beat her.
EDIT do you have any particular way that they could beat her in mind?
just wondering since you seem so darn sure that they could beat someone with a superior power.
First off, I don't have to think of the way to beat her, Oda does, and Oda seems to have their power levels firmly in mind.
But it CAN BE simple as this. Grappling moves apply leverage to get what it needs done. For Zoro, all he needs to do is overpower her. Despite the fact that she has leverage, if she can't force his joints or muscles into the positions she wants because he can overpower her despite leverage then she's got nothing. Her power does not increase her strength, all it allows her to do is manipulate from desirable positions.
For Sanji it's much the same, except simpler. If she tries to stop his legs, she's going to find that impossible. With his weight centered down on them, it's impossible to manipulate the legs while they're grounded, hence why you always see her use hands from the ground to grab at the ankles. And THAT grab is easy to get of when you have Sanji's leg strength. As far as the other moves go, read for Zoro.
Of course, I'm sure Oda could think of something better, but insofar as her "superior style" goes, all you need is the above.
Sanji would lose hard. He doesn't have anything that would stop Robin fron tripping him up (growing a hand out of the ground to get his ankle, out of his thigh and grabbing his shin, hands over eyes, etc) he'd be in the crutch in less than a second.
Zoro I'm willing to believe can somehow use his raw strength to brute-force his way out of Robin's attempts to hold him, but he'd still be easily disarmed, tripped up, and ultimately beaten.
If you want to convince me either of these two can beat her in a fair fight, you first have to show how they can beat the Hana Hana fruit. If you can't create a plausible scenario you just have to admit that they'd lose to her and that's it. But again, I wouldn't also say that she's a more powerful fighter, only that she can beat up two regular humans. For instance, if Robin can beat Zoro and Zoro can beat Mr.1, does that mean she can also beat Mr.1? Doubtful; his fruit would nulify her's. And yet Zoro has no DF ability.
yup i think he has to and he has to me established long ago that thought Zoro and sanji takes the spotlight shes the one whos is the deadliest figher after Luffy.
and now you go again with the he can over power her argument again even thought its clearly been stated in the manga that strength doesnt mean shit to her,
now if you had said that he might be able to use his swords to get free somehow i might have budged but the hes stronger than her so he can win argument is to be pure BS to me.
and the sanji thing is easy to counter just grab and break his supportive leg while hes doing a kick and down he goes,
or strangle him to give him something else to think about then use the opening to put him in a grip,
or she could break his leg or back or any other part she desires and crippleing him thus removing the threat of his kicks.
Robins power is just too great for sanji to cope with using only his legs.
Who said strength doesn't matter?
She did.
And the CP9 said that Tekkai made them invulnerable. Sanji's proven THAT wrong already.
All it means is that Robin hasn't met anybody who can yet. We KNOW that her strength isn't increased, otherwise size wouldn't matter. Now let me ask you; why would she say strength doesn't matter then? Why, because she has leverage! Read above to my response for that.
For her breaking Sanji's legs, legs are not that easy to break, especially somebody like Sanji's. As for strangling him, all he has to do is kick her to break HER concentration.
Your points need work, Wolfwood.
yea but sanji lose to robin anyway because he would refuse to fight her lol.
o tink the strawhat rankings are this
1. luffy
2. zoro
2. franky(tied with zoro)
3. sanji
3. robin (tied with sanji)
4. usopp
5.nami
6.chopper
I dunno 'bout Franky there, warp. While he's powerful, I haven't seen enough to judge him as a match for Zoro. Judging from what I have seen, I'd rate him about the same as I rate Robin, and that's while extrapolating more. From what I've seen, he'd be below her as well, but I think he's capable of more than he's shown, but not so much as to tie with Zoro.
My own ranking chart goes something like this;
Luffy, Zoro, Sanji (close to Zoro,) Robin, Franky (close to Robin,) Usopp, Chopper, Nami.
It'll be proven further/disproved when we see the real fights between the CP9 and the Straw Hats.
Well in terms of Strawhats ranking.
1. Luffy = Zoro = Franky (It's made quite obvious that Zoro and Luffy are equal… I personally don't see why people always tend to rate him above Zoro... but may just be obvious in my eyes... though by Alabasta they were definitely equal.) Luffy never had the upper hand against Franky during thier little fight, and well we've seen him do very powerful moves and such. He may drop depending on how much more we see of him.
2. Robin
3. Sanji
4. Chopper
5. Ussop
6. Nami
And well we already saw the CP9 rankings. Though I believe going by Jyabura's words, that Jyabura is #2 and Kaku #3. So I'm thinking that Ussop and Chopper double team the Fukurou and Kumadori. Nami against Calipha. Zoro against Jyabura. Franky against Spandman(I'm sure he has more than what he has shown...hopefully) and Blueno, Sanji against Kaku. Luffy against Lucci.
All it means is that Robin hasn't met anybody who can yet.
Your points need work, Wolfwood.
but shes has meet Zoro XD so does that mean you are admiting defeat or just bad phrasing.
and no i dont think they need work but maybe some clarification,
Robin is a ranged fighter she wouldnt stand next to sanji if they fought so if he got strangled from a distance then he would have had to run over to her if he wanted to kick her right ?
and have you ever tried running whilst you cant breath ?
or kicking for that matter.
and even if he by some magical means made it over to kick her whats to stop her from tripping him on the way over he would be panicing and easy to stop.
and legs are suprisingly easy to dislocate robin with all her hands would have no problem doing that especially if he was busy struggeling to clear his air wayswhich would take some time since he would have to use his hands to remove her hands cause what else could he do ?
kick himself in the neck XD i think not,
and her is my list
1.luffy
2.Robin
3.Zoro
4.franky
5.sanji
6.choppa
7.usopp
8.nami
The only reason Luffy would survive a fight with Zoro is because he's the main character. Franky would definitely be third, since he obviously can't beat Luffy, and I strongly doubt he'd do much against a guy with swords that's at least even with Luffy.
Well, as far as rankings go, I think it'll be clear by who fights who in the coming battles.
And no, legs are damn hard to dislocate when compared to, say, arms. Yet you don't mention Zoro's arms getting dislocated… wait, that's right, you can overpower holds! Silly me, forgetting to mention that. Oh, wait, I did.
And when did Robin say that? Back in Alabasta, when fighting Pell. Before she met Zoro.
i didnt mention anything about Zoro cause i thought we were discussing sanji vs robin right now but sure we can switch focus to Zoro in case you dont have any pro-sanji arguments left.
oh and dislocating a leg is kinda easy when you can get both your hands on it its just a simple twist at the knee caps.
and i was just making a joke relax^^
btw sarcasm doesnt suit you
The female agents were assistants/partners to the numbered agents. They weren't equal; the female agent was specifically selected for her ability to compliment the abilities of the numbered agent. So: Mr.1 cut, Doublefinger pierced. Mr. 3 sculpted, Goldenweek painted. And so on. So just because Nami beat Doublefinger does NOT mean she can beat ANY of the number agents.
Oh that is not true. Just how does Ms. Valentine's ability to change her weight compliment Mr. 5's ability to make every part of his body, even right down to his snotwads, explode? How does Miss AllSunday's Arm growing ability compliment Crocodile's ability to turn into sand? I could bring up Miss Merrychristmas' Mole transformation and Mr. 4's batting ability but I think that's already covered with their combo attack.
And when did Robin say that? Back in Alabasta, when fighting Pell. Before she met Zoro.
She also said that she could grow parts of her body out of any surface but as we all see, she seems to just grow extra arms. I've yet to see Robin grow a foot and kick someone in the vital areas. Pretty much, anyone with enough body armor covering them can avoid getting strangulated by that chick's arms.
I thought it best to start afresh, I blend right in, I've learned to mesh, I'll eat your food, Ninja Tongue's my name, once I strike, it won't taste the same. - A poem by Don Patch
(Thanks go to Caracal for the Ace gif )
She also said that she could grow parts of her body out of any surface but as we all see, she seems to just grow extra arms. I've yet to see Robin grow a foot and kick someone in the vital areas. Pretty much, anyone with enough body armor covering them can avoid getting strangulated by that chick's arms.
Actually, she can, she just prefers to grapple. In Skypeia, she grows eyes out of Luffy's hands when Usopp falls through the cloud sea.
And let's not forget that she grew legs to carry the others up the beanstalk
Well, as far as rankings go, I think it'll be clear by who fights who in the coming battles.
It all comes down to personal opinions, really. I say we should agree to disagree. 
We'll never hear the end of it.
As for Robin… It's true that she prefers to grapple, but... think of this: Why not blind her enemies? Pierce their eyes? Maybe it doesn't appear in the manga because it's too sadistic, but it's possible.
Heh, I'm sorry, but after seeing those rankings, I couldn't believe how many people consider Franky as a crewmember already. 
That colorspread really made people rush into conclusions, eh?
@Green:
Heh, I'm sorry, but after seeing those rankings, I couldn't believe how many people consider Franky as a crewmember already.
Even without the colourspread, the evidence is glaring
Everyone sees the spread as the confirmation
Robin is definitely the most powerful and deadly.
The woman can grow a seemingly infinite number of body parts from anywhere and use them to attack. Zoro may be tough, but he is not going to be able to swing his swords around if 100 arms suddenly appear all over his body, grab his swords, and pin him to the ground. In one of the movies she literally made a tidal wave of hands to move the Going Merry forward. That's power.
The other thing to realize is, Robin's former profession is that of an assassin. So she is not some innocent woman flailing her arms around widly. She knows body parts and areas to attack.
The only ability that could defeat her I think (and it's one Crocodile performed) was to teleport behind her and catch her off guard.
@GunMetal::
In one of the movies she literally made a tidal wave of hands to move the Going Merry forward. That's power.
That would also never happen in the manga.
But the idea is the same though. Whether Oda would do it or not, it's still within the realm of possibility for her to do. She has that kind of power.
Robin is being portrayed in everything as someone above the crew and other characters in the series. Amongst the Straw Hats, she is more mature and seems somewhat apart from them. In the world, she is the only one who can read this ancient language. She also has one of the deadliest DFs around.
I would go so far as to say that Oda is purposely making her somewhat of a "god"-like and unique being. He'll of course make her more accessible and identifiable as the series goes on, but that's what he's doing with her now.
No she doesn't.
If she did, then there'd be no "size" limitation in her fighting techniques.
That's not necessarily true. Larger objects require more time to disable. There's much more surface area per mass which makes things difficult for her to attack and get a firm grip on. Her power is also limited by the way in which she uses it and her brain's own processing power. When she is attacking an average human, she knows just what vital points to target and take out. When you have a larger person/object, you need more time to think about what the best strategy would be for disabling. All of these factor into why taking out a larger foe would be more difficult for her.
The Hana Hana Fruit doesn't increase her strength. The strength needed to carry a bloody ship is well beyond Robin's level, even with x number of arms.
If you go by her 79 million bounty she's definately #2 in the Straw Hats. She is, but not because of her bounty, which is I think way over her real value in terms of combat power. Her DF is really strong against humans, but much weaker against most other DF users, because they often have special resistence to the type of damage she can do. For instance, she could own Krieg, Morgan, and Arlong all at once but would have problems with Buggy. Mr.1 can cut with any part of his body, so Robin would just get sliced up if she tried to attack him directly. Luffy's completely immune to her.
Robin might also have trouble with CP9.
Hehe. Ever hear of something called man-power or horse-power? You get a million "average" people and they can lift up a ship as small as Going Merry. Remember, man DID build the pyramids.
To Gunmetal: The pyramids were built by dragging, not lifting. There's a big difference there.
GUTB: It's pretty much a given that the real reason for her bounty is the fact that she's the only one who can decipher polyglyphs, which has NOTHING to do with her strength or fighting ability at all. In fact, it's even possible that she never sank any ships to begin with.
@GunMetal::
But the idea is the same though. Whether Oda would do it or not, it's still within the realm of possibility for her to do. She has that kind of power.
Robin is being portrayed in everything as someone above the crew and other characters in the series.
amen to that i whole heartedly agree cept that shes not above the logia users,
and paulie why shouldnt she be able to do that ?
as i see it with enough hands she could theoreticly be able to move anything.
btw nice to see that im not alone on the robin side=)
Sanji is a pure melee fighter, he won't have a chance to get near Robin, Robin can just bury him with 100 arms if it's necessary.
Even Chopper got a bigger chance to defeat her than Sanji, since he can change form therefor is harder to grip him…
Though I don't about Robin vs Zoro, since Zoro has that cannon techniqe...
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!:wacko:
I thought we were discussing the Straw Hats vs CP9?!!! lmao I recall we've already dissected the Robin argument somewhere around page 3? xD!
but since everyone is doing it I'll just throw my thoughts into the mix as well
It's true Robin does have the an advantage over Zoro and Sanji since she has a huge range to do her 'flowering' but regardless of her 'strength means nothing' statement, I think Zoro will definately give her a run for her money. The dude throws buildings at his enemies! BUILDINGS DAMN IT!!! Not some tiny dinky house it's like an apartment. If he doesn't have the strength to at least free himself from Robin I will cry. Though Sanji has strong leg muscles, I doubt, even if he gets over his whole chivalry gag, he can ignore a broken arm if Robin decided to target his arms instead of his legs. Sure he can free his legs but does he have the strength to free his arms? I dun think so.
Robin is quite strong and is the black sheep of the crew, but instead of figuring out who would win a fight with who in the crew, let's figure out who would win in the fights against CP9 DAMN IT!!! XD
I cry for the people who think Kumadori will fight Zoro. COME ON MAN. It's Zoro are you seriously thinking he'll fight on of the lower ranked CP9. Besides his name credits him so the higher cp9s will target him as well. I'm pretty sure Jyabura would want a slice of Zoro awesomeness regardless of what ever the hell Kumadori has to say about it
Back to my argument about 3 pages back? I would qoute it but i forgot to and am too lazy to go back to it. I think it was wolfwood that brought this up
'Franky would have more reason to fight Spandam then Kumadori'
yes I acknowledge that but let's look at the scenario where Robin doesn't want to fight and Spandam decides to take her down to Impel Down (?) All the straw hats go to their respective fights and Franky gives chase to Spandam, Kumadori being left out will engage franky and thus ends my scenario
I believe Franky will have Spandam for dinner after Kumadori but he has to have another fight before the end. Now that i reread the chapter i see that there are two DFs. i amused myself with the idea that Usopp ate one but that would shatter his uniqueness so I pray that does not happen.
Alot of people are hoping for a Soge King vs Kakyu matchup but still every flipping cp9 is waaaay above him. So i believe the whole comedic gimic of Soge King vs Fukurou tops a grudge match. Zoro can take vengence for him xD. plus…..
WHY DOES NO ONE HAVE FAITH IN CHOPPER?!!
HE'S A MONSTER AND IS VERY STRONG!!! GRRRRR!!>=(
lol Just watched the fight with Chopper and Gedatsu Alot of people listed chopper as one of the weaker fighters. He has the potential to be amazing, it's just he hasn't taken the stage yet... I believe Usopp will get a Bounty this time around as well, but I hope Chopper does too. Each arch he's steadily growing and becoming stronger, he needs some credit!!!!
CHOPPER VS BLUENO!!! THE NOSE BEATS ALL (I'm the only one who wants this match up T.T)
How long have you been into OP?
Zoro ALWAYS fights the swordsman or the closest approximation thereof. ALWAYS. Not sometimes. No most of the time. ALWAYS. If there is a swordsman in the enemy, Zoro will face him. Is Oda going to break with habit now after nearly 400 chapters? I think not.
How long have you been into OP?
Zoro ALWAYS fights the swordsman or the closest approximation thereof. ALWAYS. Not sometimes. No most of the time. ALWAYS. If there is a swordsman in the enemy, Zoro will face him. Is Oda going to break with habit now after nearly 400 chapters? I think not.
http://ap.animemedia.org/showthread.php?p=116354#post116354
Read the last post.
When did Robin ever say she COULD beat zoro?
Back on topic
Am pretty much going off the colorspread for this one as it was the matchup for Arlong Park. Still Oda might surprise met.
Here are some theories though:
Luffy vs. Lucci (this is a given as Luffy called it. Though I have a feeling it might take him a few tries as with Crocodile before he can defeat him.)
Zoro and/or SogeKing vs. Kaku: (Payback of course. Zoro did promise Mihawk and Luffy he wouldn't lose ever. And I doubt he would let Kaku get away for their first encounter. Soge-King would be fighting "in the name of Ussop" for tossing merry go out into the sea.)
Robin vs Blueno (He was the one that got Robin into this situation in the first place. Plus I wanna see her wipe that look off his face.)
Nami and/or Sanji vs Kalifa (Another given, girl on girl fight. Though I can see Sanji fighting her too since they both are good with kick attacks plus it'd be a good test of his self-control.)
Soge-King vs. Funkurou : (Either on his way to fight Kaku or just their destined brawl. Either way it'll be interesting.)
Chopper vs. Zyabura (Raindeer vs. a wolf/dog hybrid. Hmm)
Franky vs. Kumadori (Seeing how Kumadori blindsided Franky in the last chapter and how he holds a grugde against anybody who attack him or his crew. This seems possible, plus Kumadori would make a prefect obstacle before reaching Spandam.)
Franky and/or Zoro vs. Spandam (One holds a grudge for past action, the other a swordsman. And seeing how Spandam fit in both of these catogories, its very likely. Plus those two devil fruits add in more supense.)
I also agree with the whole team battle, the CP9 doesn't seem to get along well with each other and proabaly think friendship is a weakness on their mission. This lead to the defeat of Baroque Works, it could just as well lead to CP9's downfall.
Get nuts or go crazy trying.
One possiblity I was thinking of is a Luffy/Chopper tag team against Lucci and Hittori. Chopper would probably discover a link between Hittori and Lucci and take out the bird to aid Luffy which ultimately leads into the final battle.
What I think.
Luffy vs. Lucci
Sanji vs. Jabura
Sanji never had any fair big fight, against Gin, he was already badly hurt by Pearl. He fought against the fish guy under water for while, Mr. 2 transformed to Nami, and when he fought against Satori, a lot of new things was there like dials and mantra… If Mr. 2 didnt transform to Nami, then it would be easier for Sanji to defeat him, if he wasnt hurt when he fought against Gin, then he would probably have won, and if he didnt fought under water with that fishman, then he would take him really easy. Sanji needs a fair hard fight and a worthy opponet, and it was a time since Sanji had a big fight alone.. It was against Mr. 2..
Sogeking vs. Kaku
Long nose vs. long nose, and kaku destroyed Going Merry, and it'll good for Usopp to take one of the big guys...
Franky vs. Blueno
Robin vs. Kumadori
Strange body, makes it harder for Robin.
Chopper vs. Fukurou
A funny battle.. 
And Chopper can say "IS IT TRUE?!?!" when Fukurou tells him all the secrets..
Zoro vs. Spandam
sword battle, I think that we should not underestimate Spandams sword skills, he seems to be quite confident with his sword...
Nami vs. Calipha
Girl fight.. or something. Though I would prefer Paulie vs. Calipha a lot more since they both have weapons with great agility and because of the sexual harrasment thing..
Since nobody listens to my rebuttals with Robin, I may as well stop that.
To Solid, I agree with Sanji and Jabura… but Usopp vs. Kaku? Long-nose vs. long-nose, while interesting I'm sure, isn't going to happen. Zoro has that one called, after getting beaten by him and plus the fact that he's the second strongest (arguably.)
But then.. How will they fight? I doubt that kaku will use those tools again…
I would like to see zoro or ussop fight him.
all right then if thats the way you feel about it lets end it but just for the record i listen to all your arguments and try hard to counter them.
and Zoro will fight either Jabura or Kaku that im sure about and i myself am leaning more toward Jabura.
and maybe he has some other sharp tool or maybe even a knife/sword.
Luffy Vs. Lucci
Chopper vs Jabura: because I too dig the possibility of a Wolf-reindeer fight- and would like to see Chopper against some carnivorous zoan sooner or later. Also, Jabura and Chopper have no interaction with either group, Chopper holds no grudges.
Kaku vs Sogeking. Revenge and all that. And I'm on GUTB's side on the whole Zoro needs a swordman thing. The only REAL fights Zoro has been in, I.E the ones were he didn't own or was owned instantly, have involved sharp implements. And even when Zoro loses (ex. Arlong) it doesn't mean he needs revenge.
Zoro vs. Kumadori; possibly DF powered.
Sanji Vs Blueno: Can't see why he HAS to fight one of the top 3 in power. Besides, Blueno's propably got some Wacky doa doa moves. Also, I believe Sanji would looove to punish him for being mean to Robin, and cripple his Tekkai.
Franky Vs a Devil power Beefed up Spandam. If Spandam somehow aquired fighting potential, the 1st one he'd use it against would be Franky.
I really don't know about the rest.
Jabura really looks like a straight-laced martial artist. Except for his Zoan fruit, I can't see him using anything else. That's why I think Sanji will face him.
As for Kaku, it's possible that chisels are NOT his main weapon, but an improvised one used while in his guise as a shipwright, sicne carrying his "main" weapons would be conspicuous. His real weapons might be daggers, kodachis, or swords. Ivotas's idea, by the way, mentioned oh-so-long ago, so I can't take credit. But using his theory, it'd really make sense for Zoro to take him on.
I'm not so sure about that…I'm holding onto the belief that Zoro will face Jabura. Jabura, as a Zoan user, will have claws. Zoro's fought opponents with claws before (namely the Nyaban (sp?) Brothers from the Kuro Arc) and also what leads me to think this is Jabura and Lucci's apparent rivalry. Way back in Whiskey Peak, Luffy and Zoro fought each other, and they seemed pretty eager to settle who was stronger. Jabura also seems pretty eager to consider himself stronger than Lucci, even though he is not, and it just makes me think that it'll be Zoro that faces Jabura. If not Jabura then Kaku will definitely be Zoro's opponent. I don't think Zoro will face Spandam because I think Spandam's about reserved for Franky.
Now, I'm also split on whether Sanji will face one of the top three CP9 or not. Kaku and SogeKing is a big grudge match, though a) Sorry Usopp, but you seem quite outmatched, and b) Sanji's one of the top three fighters. The only reason I think that Sanji would face Blueno instead of Kaku or Jabura is because he's already had a pretty major fight this arc against Wanze, and that SogeKing's got that grudge. However, SogeKing against Kumadori isn't unlikely either - SogeKing's new weapon appears to be staff-like. Augh, there's so many variables that I can't make any solid predictions.
Also, the likelihood of a two-on-two battle like in Alabasta is quite high. Eight battles seems a few too many to me. I don't know who would team up with who, though, but if SogeKing faces Kumadori and Chopper faces Fukurou, perhaps we can see the return of the Usopp/Chopper tag team!
I think the Zoro/Sanji rivalry is a LOT more pronounced than Luffy/Zoro. Plus right now it's more Jabura/Kaku rivavlry than Luffy and Jabura… Jabura claiming to still be stronger and all that despite a lower ranking, plus they're closer in level anyway.
I think the Zoro/Sanji rivalry is a LOT more pronounced than Luffy/Zoro. Plus right now it's more Jabura/Kaku rivavlry than Luffy and Jabura… Jabura claiming to still be stronger and all that despite a lower ranking, plus they're closer in level anyway.
You mean Lucci and Jabura?
Nah, Lucci doesn't completely ignore Jabura like Kaku did. He even showed off his DF power and exchanged snide remarks.
Kaku's just, "Whatever, I'm not interested" when Jabura boasted about his DF giving him an edge in battle.
