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    • JERK DISEASE
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      I've recently leaped from the ramparts of the highest towers of the fortress of Hip-Hop, over the city walls, and gone a long journey through the wide open deep plains of Rock and it's many many sub-genres.

      It's been an amazing experience broadening my tastes and watching huge prejudices I had evaporate once I let my mind remain as open as my ears. I respect things I never thought i would.

      And seemingly strangest of all is that I now know when I return to my house in Hip-Hop city that I will appreciate and enjoy Hip-Hop even more now.
      And I'm getting a summer home in the rock plains for sure now.

      Confronting my preconceptions has made me really wonder at why people when it comes music almost more then any other art form….put up huge walls between them and other genres and act so hateful and disrespectful toward other genres and sub-genres. Why they refuse to really go out and explore and instead dig into their trenches.

      So be honest and answer the poll regardless of whether you know your feelings are irrational or unfair. Just answer honestly.

      Don't answer if you don't honestly hate any of the poll options please.

      So then discuss why you may feel as you do, and why you might contrast it with the ones you like most.

      And some of the rest of us can explain why we feel the worth in the genres others shun.

      Unusual for me....let's keep this civil as possible. I don't like getting pissy about music (unless someone else brings the pissy first). The only exception will be Nerdcore, which will get all the abuse it deserves and more.

      Let's use this to just think about it and share thoughts.

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        Metal…..Is it wrong to like Hip hop over that?

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          I went with country, but more specifically, I should say Bluegrass.
          Country in general I am not a fan of, but I can tolerate listening to it.
          Bluegrass, however, I absolutely cannot stand.
          I'm not so sure why this is, my grandparents love it, and whenever I was at their house it was always playing, so I should like it due to all the exposure I had to it, but for some reason I just can't listen to it.

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            Metal.

            I can listen to and love everything else on that list. I'm a big Funk, Electronic, Jazz (esp Latin Jazz) and Soul fan, I've come to appreciate that Pop and Country have their virtues and can even be awesome. I actually love a wide genre of music and can accept those that I don't. I love the idea and roots and heart of Hip Hop, but have a lot of issues with Gangster Rap - specifically thematically… but the shit that has heart? Yeah, I can dig it.

            But metal.

            I can only appreciate it ironically. It just doesn't resonate with me on any level, not even primally.

            And many of my friends LOVE it.

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              You make good points, I've realized that people are especially hateful when it comes to music, and they really do put up their own barriers to enjoying more genres. It's a sad thing to see, but I'm certainly guilty of it myself.

              For me, the genres I can't get into are country and metal. Now with country it's the most popular kind of country that I don't really care for. I can actually enjoy bluegrass. With metal, it's the screaming vocals that turn me off. I like the instrumental parts, but once there's screaming I start thinking "How could anybody like this". I know there's metal without the screaming, but I haven't delved much into it.

              There's also rap. It's a genre I just don't listen to. I used to be a hater, but now I just say "I don't listen to it" and leave it at that. I'll even defend rap from the people who say it isn't music.

              It's hard for me to vote because I don't "hate" the genres I don't listen to. I don't want to look at it that way anymore.

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                I love metal without the screaming. I used to be a big death metal fan till one day I realized it was some really awful and just plain bad shit.

                Pretty much the only genre I don't really like is country. I don't hate it, though. I love rap, hiphop, rock, jazz, classical (not love, but I like it), funk, soul, pop, blues, electronic, techno, folk, etc.

                What I truly can't stand is shitty mainstream rap and pop.

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                  I can find examples of something I like in just about every genre of music I know of, except ska.

                  I can not fucking stand ska.

                  Even something like Kamen Rider OOO's opening theme, which isn't totally ska, is actually decently sung, and is catchy as fuck, I still fucking hate because it's just ska enough to gnaw at my soul.

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                    I used to be the biggest hip hop fan and nerd at the beginning of this decade, but now I cant stand one note from any of the music in the genre.

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                      Metal is really the only genre I feel that strongly toward anymore. I even used to feel hateful of Prog rock when I was dumb and didn't really understand what a simple fun appeal it had (as opposed to the joyless pretention I assumed of it). Now I'm lovin' Gabriel era Genesis and ….I....I. loved Tarkus!!! The ELP album! God help me I never imagined I would but I did!!!

                      But Metal.....mmmmm....Metal.
                      See I can dig stuff like Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and some Metallica. I like Metal that still has melody, so I guess Power Metal and stuff like Dream Theater I respect.

                      But stuff like Death Metal? Black Metal?
                      The stuff that becomes pretty much just sludgey noise with screaming and grunting indecipherable vocals?

                      I...just cannot whatsoever see the actual musical appeal in that.
                      I see the appeal of why people would like the mood and imagery (much of which...I just find hopelessly corny). But not the pure music.

                      And I feel kind of hypocritical since I'm a massive Hip-Hop fan, and I know well the hugely unfair condescenion that Metal fans deal with, so I feel like...I'm wrong to feel this way. But I don't know.

                      This? This is stuff I get, even LIKE. This kind of Metal.

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                      But this…this I absolutely cannot see how it's possible to musically enjoy something like this. And not because of any kind of being offended, but god help me, above all else because...

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                      ..because it's like a huge joke! This has got to be a joke! The singing I mean. it's certainly making me laugh….it's just you're kidding me right?

                      Wagomu help!

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                        @Tragic_johnson:

                        I used to be the biggest hip hop fan and nerd at the beginning of this decade, but now I cant stand one note from any of the music in the genre.

                        Let me try you again.

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                        ! Even the huge world of instrumental hip-hop?
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                          I just wanted to see how many would pick Hip-hop.

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                            I like almost all the music genres, save electronic, because for some reason I just don't like the repetitive musics and it gives me headache.

                            And about that, someone can say I'm talking bullshit, because for being a great metal fan (A genre full of shouts and loud noises, even if it's the old bands like Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath), this someone can just say I'm not in the position to complain about electronic being something to give headaches. But I have some exceptions in this genre, like Kraftwerk.

                            The only genres that surpasses my love for metal is rock and classical music.

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                              @JERK:

                              But Metal…..mmmmm....Metal.
                              See I can dig stuff like Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and some Metallica. I like Metal that still has melody, so I guess Power Metal and stuff like Dream Theater I respect.

                              But stuff like Death Metal? Black Metal?
                              The stuff that becomes pretty much just sludgey noise with screaming and grunting indecipherable vocals?

                              I...just cannot whatsoever see the actual musical appeal in that.
                              I see the appeal of why people would like the mood and imagery (much of which...I just find hopelessly corny). But not the pure music.

                              And I feel kind of hypocritical since I'm a massive Hip-Hop fan, and I know well the hugely unfair condescenion that Metal fans deal with, so I feel like...I'm wrong to feel this way. But I don't know.

                              This? This is stuff I get, even LIKE. This kind of Metal.
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                              But this…this I absolutely cannot see how it's possible to musically enjoy something like this. And not because of any kind of being offended, but god help me, above all else because...
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                              ..because it's like a huge joke! This has got to be a joke! The singing I mean. it's certainly making me laugh….it's just you're kidding me right?

                              I dunno, I love the crazy guitar playing in a lot of the heavier metal stuff.
                              But the roaring… yeah, I don't really understand that either.

                              But as for that Cryptopsy song... it's just fucking bad. That's like low-end.
                              Funny as shit, though.

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                                I am not sure what kind of genre it is but that sucks hard.

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                                  @JERK:

                                  Metal is really the only genre I feel that strongly toward anymore. I even used to feel hateful of Prog rock when I was dumb and didn't really understand what a simple fun appeal it had (as opposed to the joyless pretention I assumed of it). Now I'm lovin' Gabriel era Genesis and ….I....I. loved Tarkus!!! The ELP album! God help me I never imagined I would but I did!!!

                                  But Metal.....mmmmm....Metal.
                                  See I can dig stuff like Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and some Metallica. I like Metal that still has melody, so I guess Power Metal and stuff like Dream Theater I respect.

                                  But stuff like Death Metal? Black Metal?
                                  The stuff that becomes pretty much just sludgey noise with screaming and grunting indecipherable vocals?

                                  I...just cannot whatsoever see the actual musical appeal in that.
                                  I see the appeal of why people would like the mood and imagery (much of which...I just find hopelessly corny). But not the pure music.

                                  And I feel kind of hypocritical since I'm a massive Hip-Hop fan, and I know well the hugely unfair condescenion that Metal fans deal with, so I feel like...I'm wrong to feel this way. But I don't know.

                                  This? This is stuff I get, even LIKE. This kind of Metal.
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                                  But this…this I absolutely cannot see how it's possible to musically enjoy something like this. And not because of any kind of being offended, but god help me, above all else because...
                                  GOQuX7pCiPo

                                  ..because it's like a huge joke! This has got to be a joke! The singing I mean. it's certainly making me laugh….it's just you're kidding me right?

                                  Wagomu help!

                                  I understand what you say…I don't like current metal bands, they are all shouts and no melody...It's not like old good bands of metal like Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, I venture even Judas Priest. These bands possess good lyrics and melody. Because of these old bands that I like metal, but current bands are a pile of stinking shit.

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                                    I also feel kind of hypocritical about hating harder Metal because I'm a huge fan of Post-Punk. Which is often just as dark and atonal as Metal. But something about it is just very different from Metal for me.

                                    I mean here's some of the stuff I like and can see other people reacting to just like I react to hard Metal.

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                                      Thank you Jerk for listing Dream Theater. Mike Portnoy is one of my all time favorite drummers.

                                      I'm not the biggest fan of metal (I'll take it without the screaming, thank you) but I do love Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, etc.

                                      Also, Tool. I freakin love them. They're one of my favorite bands. If not my absolute favorite.
                                      Their songs just prove how much every member of that band is an actual musician.

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                                        I can't stand the black and death metal stuff, I'm with ya on that JD
                                        But I really really do love some of the tamer stuff, like the Scorpions or Judas Priest, so I can't vote for it on the poll

                                        I also don't particularly like modern country, but again I like the older stuff so not vote there either.

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                                          I don't care for hip hop, but my dislike of country is probably greater simply because of where I live.

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                                            Hmm, perhaps I shouldn't have voted, because I don't think I truly hate any of the music genres posted, including country, which I voted for.

                                            Well…unless...does country include that backwoods redneck banjo music? And no, I don't care how vulgar or ignorant or stereotyped that sounds (or that I'm not even sure of the proper name for it) I friggin' hate it with a passion. So yeah, if that falls under country, then so be it.

                                            Metal? Well, I do like a fair number of songs by Metallica, and maybe a few songs by some other bands, but I'm not an avid listener. And no, I don't like it at all when they just scream and make noise. I'd appreciate if they used a little bit of class and structure.

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                                              I can't stand modern country whatsoever. But it doesn't seem like a genre issue so much, since I definitely respect the basic sound of the genre.
                                              It's just that modern mainstream country is THE CORNIEST shit. It's cornier then a thousand Backstreet Boys songs for godsakes.

                                              And I…actually like that backwoods sound, the Bluegrass.

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                                                I just wanted to see how many would pick Hip-hop.

                                                Same here.

                                                And Dream Theater is fucking awesome.
                                                And that Reminisce rap song is also fucking awesome. That's one of my favorite types of hip hop.

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                                                  fuck you zephos this is a topic I want to be sober for, fuck your fucking timing

                                                  I will whip up a cool ass post later. I'm a buttscholar of muzak and it's my professional opinion that swing-revival and 3rd wave ska are objectively awful.

                                                  That's not what my cool ass post would be about, those sentences complete themselves alone with no necessary context, or elaboration. I would actually prefer to talk about the ways I turned my tight anus ears into gaping whorish maws when it came to receiving sound. I'll do it later.

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                                                  But stuff like Death Metal? Black Metal?
                                                  The stuff that becomes pretty much just sludgey noise with screaming and grunting indecipherable vocals?

                                                  I…just cannot whatsoever see the actual musical appeal in that.
                                                  I see the appeal of why people would like the mood and imagery (much of which...I just find hopelessly corny). But not the pure music.

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                                                  My example of some very sludgey metal that comes to mind with indecipherable vocals that I find to be fantastic. This is also what would be considered, in general, how fans of this would consider it done right. For the record, yes, sludge/stoner/whatever metal summons people who largely have no grasp on band names and what doesn't sound stupid. Very sad.

                                                  Now to approach it from aesthetics perspective, I love that it has a very dense feel to it. The heavy landscape evokes a sort of swampy struggle, a slow pace, lumbering like a giant, etc etc (things that depict "heavy/slow imagery" with an overdramatic flair and you could go on forever). The vocals are not meant to be understood, only heard. It's nothing more than a layer to the texture. So it creates the portrait of a very vivid (or perhaps it's better to say murky?) emotional experience. It's not one that's inherently pleasing, yet, the sort of pleasure I receive is one of aural fulfillment. A very large, full meal of fulfillment.

                                                  I elaborate on like this as if I'm going to start explaining how, scientifically speaking, yada yada yada but once I lay everything out on the table it's sort of difficult to get much else out there. As obvious as it is (if you hear it you can explain what you're hearing), that's actually why it sounds good. On an emotional palette, every kind of imagery and chord can strike in you (negative to positive) resonation in a way that feels pleasing.

                                                  Particularly if you're mirroring your own mood to the work itself. Sort of akin to venting anger.

                                                  To most listeners, that sort of in your face anger is a turn off. It is very much something that people on a usual level just flat out don't want to hear. We're conditioned to hear screaming and loud volumes as cacophony, or unpleasant. For a reason. But get past the barrier and…

                                                  The end result? Pleasing, actually, just as much as sunshine pop can be.

                                                  And musically, really on a pure level, that's just it. It can sound primal as fuck, but it's effective on a technical level. You say you can understand the appeal of the imagery conceptually, not not as an actual product, I think i interpreted that right? If not then I wasted a whooooole post not like there's much to say. But it's not like I need to explain to you all of this, anyways. You're smart you know how noises work. I was more of just setting up a foundation to describe how the good stuff does capture the emotions with an aesthetic that doesn't come off as insanely cheesy. Or maybe if it still sounds cheesy it's just in the end about not being able to get past the cliches associated with the sound.

                                                  I know I've experienced that. The Wrens Meadowlands is a masterpiece of power pop and emo genre. But it took a few listens to get past that kind of voice to really hear just how good they were at doing what they were doing. The pisspoor attempts at replicating the good stuff can bear so much similarities on a surface level it's hard to separate to the untrained ear.

                                                  And it's also not to say you always have to be stiflingly mad, or bleak feeling, to be in the mood for sludginess. When I'm in a good mood sometimes I just think low end notes, heavy bass, or just deep rhythms can be damn fine.

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                                                    And I…actually like that backwoods sound, the Bluegrass.

                                                    You know, whenever I'm listening to the radio in the car, I'll put it on scan and inevitably it always comes up on this one backwoods/bluegrass station and 9 times out of 10 someone will be playing a banjo.

                                                    Honest to god, how many songs can they make on that stupid fucking instrument?! I swear to god, they're all the same friggin' tune!

                                                    [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
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                                                      :ermm: Ah fuck, I clicked classical instead of Country, is their any way I can change that?

                                                      Anyway I wouldn't say that I hate all country, just the New Country thats come out since the early nineties. I suppose it's just mostly because it doesn't sound anything like the old stuff from the fifties and onwards. It just sounds like some pop/folk hybrid, and it just gets on my nerves.

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                                                        I agree with jerk disease on death metal and the like. It sounds like sludge, into my ears and into my brain, loud and indescipherable sludge.

                                                        but I love the shit out of power metal, like Masterplan.
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                                                        and then as for hip-hop and rap - I don't care for it that much because in many hip-hop songs, the hook is the only part I like. The actual "rap" part is either unintelligible or uninteresting.

                                                        but there are a few songs that I absolutely love.
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                                                          I felt weird about answering this poll, simply because of the incredibly wide range of sub-genres that exist. I like some Country, but certainly not all of it, and I don't like bluegrass. I hate most metal, but the melodic stuff, particularly Power Metal, is a great source of enjoyment.

                                                          So basically, I answered it not based on what I hated, necessarily, but what I was truly tired with hearing.

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                                                            The more specific the sub-genre, the more it refers to a very specific sound.

                                                            Same for some ~movements~.

                                                            This is why people can say, on a whole, they dislike things like 3rd wave ska and swing-revival. If you hate ZOOT SUIT RIOT there is such an insanely minimal chance that you need to hear anything else from other acts associated with swing-revival to know you think that sound is awful. Shit, even post-grunge on some level can be generalized in this fashion, though I would never really encourage actual generalizations and assumptions on a baseless angle.

                                                            But yeah, the aforementioned genres work a lot on the "fuck this" front, epecially since these genres are more like "why listen to this bullshit when I can get the real thing?"

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                                                              The quality of a given piece of country music is directly related to when the person singing it was born. Before 1940? Awesome. After 1960? It will suck.

                                                              Bluegrass largely works in the same fashion.

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                                                                and then as for hip-hop and rap - I don't care for it that much because in many hip-hop songs, the hook is the only part I like. The actual "rap" part is either unintelligible or uninteresting.

                                                                but there are a few songs that I absolutely love.
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                                                                Probably because you're judging the genre based on mainstream shit (besides Eminem, he's good, and Snoop Dogg used to be)

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                                                                  and then as for hip-hop and rap - I don't care for it that much because in many hip-hop songs, the hook is the only part I like. The actual "rap" part is either unintelligible or uninteresting.

                                                                  You have to want to get into the rhythm of the delivery of the rapper to get the full hip-hop musical experience.

                                                                  This is the basis for rap music as art.

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                                                                  Here's a really basic minimal track, just try getting into finger tapping and head nodding. (I'm shocked more drummers don't love hip-hop honestly)

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                                                                  but there are a few songs that I absolutely love.
                                                                  Ci7ac9UtNEM

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                                                                  That's a pretty basic hip-hop track in every way (maybe the guy is a little more sing-songy than usual), I'm surprised you can't get into the genre.

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                                                                    I thought it was dumb nerdcore crap too without watching it.

                                                                    I will direct my dislike of that crap to just its existence in general

                                                                    I just can't really get past how it's like

                                                                    "Hey it's like hiphop, but ironically and guilt free lol halo references you laugh because mega man doesn't rap hahahahahah"

                                                                    WHITE PEOPLE ARE SAFE HERE

                                                                    edit: No really I'm serious.

                                                                    I'm sure a lot of the appeal of NERDCORE is that it feels like such an inclusive atmosphere free of blackness

                                                                    haaaaaa

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                                                                      I thought it was dumb nerdcore crap too without watching it.

                                                                      I will direct my dislike of that crap to just its existence in general

                                                                      I just can't really get past how it's like

                                                                      "Hey it's like hiphop, but ironically and guilt free lol halo references right am I right"

                                                                      WHITE PEOPLE ARE SAFE HERE

                                                                      hee heee, look… its crazy black people music about megaman!!! lollll!!

                                                                      yo yo yo......i haz cheezburger

                                                                      HEE HEE HEE

                                                                      but wait, lemme get serious an prove this is real legit genre and not just really tired inhereently terrible and vaguely racist joke!!

                                                                      yo, yo, my moms kicked me out the house cuz i been playing like too much ffxiv, g

                                                                      whaddya mean thats not real pathos!!! omg, its the nerd life, its "real" too, just as "real" as the street!!!

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                                                                        stop making me love the both of you

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                                                                        There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                          So be honest and answer the poll regardless of whether you know your feelings are irrational or unfair. Just answer honestly.

                                                                          Okay, if that's what you want (and you'll probably flame me later)….

                                                                          I don't know if this would be included in the "Hip-Hop" section or is an entire sub-section in of itself, but I absolutely abhor "Ghetto, degrading rap music". I wouldn't even call it music. I'm 100% all for the old school soul, jazz, & blues, but rap.....I mean, goddamn. What I hate most is always the lyrics. I recall hearing from a friend one time how rap music was used so individuals could tell stories of their past struggles on the streets in a more rhythmic fashion, but there's a major a difference between pouring your soul and hardships into your music and lyrics like:

                                                                          "Shut up bitch swallow
                                                                          If you can't swallow
                                                                          Shut up bitch gargle"

                                                                          "Cuz im the shit
                                                                          Up in this bitch"

                                                                          and

                                                                          "So I pick the world up and I'ma drop it on your fuckin head
                                                                          Bitch I'ma pick the World up and I’ma drop it on your fuckin head"

                                                                          Jesus Christ. It's utterly mortifying how absolutely degrading the rap genre is to everyday women, but also equally infuriating how most rappers have such a sense of downright, cocky, arrogant attitudes; so full of themselves in their own over-inflated egos, thinking that they really are "the shit" and that's why they can act the way they do and treat/degrade women the way they do in their lyrics. I mean, just look at Kanye West, proudly declaring that he was going to be "better than Elvis himself". Honestly people, do you really think that Elvis would have acted/treated Taylor swift in the same manner as Kayne did that infamous night? No, because Elvis had class. He would have NEVER treated anyone, much less a fellow upcoming musician like that. REAL musicians don't need to use bad publicity or foul words like "nigga" "pussy" "cock" "bitch" and "muthafucka", to produce and sell good music. They have a natural respect and talent of their own.

                                                                          I truly miss the fiery soul and passion of, well, Soul/Jazz/Blues.

                                                                          Originally Posted by MDL

                                                                          Someone married their stepmom and then got murdered?

                                                                          Sounds like he used a monkey paw to make a porno story come true.

                                                                          Then the curse of the paw eventually killed him.

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                                                                            I don't outright hate any broad genre. I can usually find something I like in any of these categories.

                                                                            I will say that I agree with Zephos in finding DEATH GROWLS kind of comical though.

                                                                            Strung out in heaven's high, hitting an all-time low.

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                                                                              hee heee, look… its crazy black people music about megaman!!! lollll!!

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                                                                              I had to actually pull this up to see if it's as bad as I remember and like

                                                                              It's all around just straight up awful

                                                                              If it wasn't for the fact that he has awkward, misguided flow and delivery, his rhymes are flat out juvenile ("this is what a four year old thinks GANGSTA RAP SOUNDS LIKE, biiiiitch") and oh so contrived.

                                                                              There is no humor to be found here. "I'm gonna throw this metal blade and cut a hole in your ass, I think I'll have my dog rush take a picture of that." Haha get it it's funny because uh… _….

                                                                              well it's good hiphop because............

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                                                                              FUCK_

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                                                                                I chose "view poll results" because there was no choice for "Bad"

                                                                                in all seriousness though, the less you think you understand, the better ears and the more appreciation you will have. that's the golden rule of music.

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                                                                                  @Mr.333:

                                                                                  I don't know if this would be included in the "Hip-Hop" section or is an entire sub-section in of itself, but I absolutely abhor "Ghetto, degrading rap music".

                                                                                  Not sure what this would sound like though. Or what you would consider degrading.

                                                                                  I wouldn't even call it music.

                                                                                  Don't do this.

                                                                                  No matter the sound, don't start with the "not music" thing.
                                                                                  It's not a criticism of any value to begin with.

                                                                                  I'm 100% all for the old school soul, jazz, & blues, but rap…..I mean, goddamn.

                                                                                  But I thought you said "ghetto degrading".
                                                                                  There's a vast portions of hip-hop that have nothing to do with those words. Even within hardcore hip-hop there's stuff that isn't quite like that.
                                                                                  In fact for a second I thought that was what you were referring to with " old school soul, jazz, and blues".

                                                                                  What I hate most is always the lyrics. I recall hearing from a friend one time how rap music was used so individuals could tell stories of their past struggles on the streets in a more rhythmic fashion, but there's a major a difference between pouring your soul and hardships into your music and lyrics like:

                                                                                  You know all I have to do is just go "yeah but what about lyrics like…".

                                                                                  You don't actually think the genre isn't easily listened to without running into that sort of thing or even just enjoying entirely on musical merit without really paying attention to lyrics? Do you?

                                                                                  Jesus Christ. It's utterly mortifying how absolutely degrading the rap genre is to everyday women, but also equally infuriating how most rappers have such a sense of downright, cocky, arrogant attitudes; so full of themselves in their own over-inflated egos, thinking that they really are "the shit" and that's why they can act the way they do and treat/degrade women the way they do in their lyrics. I mean, just look at Kanye West, proudly declaring that he was going to be "better than Elvis himself". Honestly people, do you really think that Elvis would have acted/treated Taylor swift in the same manner as Kayne did that infamous night?

                                                                                  Are you a fan of the Rolling Stones by any chance?

                                                                                  No, because Elvis had class. He would have NEVER treated anyone, much less a fellow upcoming musician like that. REAL musicians don't need to use bad publicity or foul words like "nigga" "pussy" "cock" "bitch" and "muthafucka", to produce and sell good music. They have a natural respect and talent of their own.

                                                                                  I'm sorry but this is complete and utter bullshit on high.

                                                                                  There are hundreds of major influential rock/pop/soul/even CLASSICAL acts that are or were gigantically obnoxious, arrogant, twatish, violent, misognistic, and all around completely without any sort of class up to and including artists from before Elvis became famous.

                                                                                  Do you know what kind of guy Chuck Berry turned out to be lol?

                                                                                  Have you ever heard of murder ballads?

                                                                                  Do you know how much insubstantial image has ALWAYS been associated with music? ESPECIALLY in regards to Elvis?
                                                                                  Elvis didn't cuss but he swang his hips.

                                                                                  And not so much as one ounce of that has the slightest bit to do with how good a musician they are.

                                                                                  I truly miss the fiery soul and passion of, well, Soul/Jazz/Blues.

                                                                                  Simply put: Do you want me to help you with hip-hop. Or rock for that matter because part way through I couldn't distinguish which you were describing.

                                                                                  Also do you have any idea how dirty and violent the blues got?

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                                                                                    @JERK:

                                                                                    EDIT: loll, should probably listen to youtubs before typing about them.
                                                                                    That's a pretty basic hip-hop track in every way (maybe the guy is a little more sing-songy than usual), I'm surprised you can't get into the genre.

                                                                                    I know, right? I have noticeably mainstream taste in music, and I don't go out of my way to listen to hip-hop, so I'm not surprised my favorites are really typical fare.

                                                                                    but I liked that "they reminisce over you" that you posted earlier. It reminds me of Cantaloop, by US3. Is that one basic, too? god, it's sad that I can't even tell, isn't it…

                                                                                    Maybe my problem is just that I haven't ever listened to much good hip-hop, and so have no basis for comparison? What are some artists that you recommend?

                                                                                    It's Manga, Baby. (One Piece Revisited)

                                                                                    Not All Pokemon are Created Equal. Lord of Djinn (now on Steam!)

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                                                                                      The fiery soul and passion of classic blues.

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                                                                                      I know, right? I have noticeably mainstream taste in music, and I don't go out of my way to listen to hip-hop, so I'm not surprised my favorites are really typical fare.

                                                                                      but I liked that "they reminisce over you" that you posted earlier. It reminds me of Cantaloop, by US3. Is that one basic, too? god, it's sad that I can't even tell, isn't it…

                                                                                      Maybe my problem is just that I haven't ever listened to much good hip-hop, and so have no basis for comparison? What are some artists that you recommend?

                                                                                      Check it out.
                                                                                      http://rateyourmusic.com/~Zephos

                                                                                      You can also see my rock lists there too.

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                                                                                        You know, fate is a cruel bitch. I just about committed internet suicide by providing a detailed defense and analysis of the country music genre (which I listened to for several years, which would have been explained in the post), as well as providing examples of some of the genre's standout performers. But my browser crashed.

                                                                                        Instead, I'll tell all of you to listen to Reba, one of THE best musicians PERIOD. Country may be a shit genre, but everything has SOME exceptions to the rules.

                                                                                        And now I offer you Reba. Listen to her (and look up some of her other songs), she's easily the genre's best performer (not my favorite, which would have been explored in the post):

                                                                                        ! zplc4Ienkws

                                                                                        Fuck you, browser. That is all.

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                                                                                          R6L9bUouDr8

                                                                                          I had to actually pull this up to see if it's as bad as I remember and like

                                                                                          It's all around just straight up awful

                                                                                          If it wasn't for the fact that he has awkward, misguided flow and delivery, his rhymes are flat out juvenile ("this is what a four year old thinks GANGSTA RAP SOUNDS LIKE, biiiiitch") and oh so contrived.

                                                                                          There is no humor to be found here. "I'm gonna throw this metal blade and cut a hole in your ass, I think I'll have my dog rush take a picture of that." Haha get it it's funny because uh… _….

                                                                                          well it's good hiphop because............

                                                                                          ....................................................................

                                                                                          FUCK_

                                                                                          Wait wait. People actually take that shit seriously? Like…. as legitimate music and not for the joke it is?

                                                                                          Guess I'll never get this whole nerd-rap stuff.

                                                                                          When I first saw this... I though "oh that's neat. A rap about megaman where they do funny voices for the characters..... ummm neat"

                                                                                          I regard stuff like this along the same lines as videos from Collage Humor.

                                                                                          And then I saw a video of the two guys actually performing it live...

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                                                                                            One of things that makes me most mad of all is when I'm talking hip hop online and someone pops in and says something like "I DUNNO ABOUT MOST RAP BUT I LIKE THIS STUFF" and posts nerdcore.

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                                                                                              I'll take nerdcore as a joke (like Weird Al parody's with far less talent or thought). I honestly thought the duane and brando thing was entertaining (my brow can get pretty low), and hell, they took the time to put a video to it and as I said, do wacky voices to the various character tunes.

                                                                                              Cool.

                                                                                              But why would someone download the song and load it on an Mp3 is beyond me. The thing ONLY works as the finished video product.

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                                                                                                Also, before we continue we should set the parameters of accepted good and bad.

                                                                                                This is the best song of all time.
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                                                                                                  YESSS I love the Talking Heads!

                                                                                                  Here's one of my favorite songs by them… from my favorite live DVD. (Stop making sense).

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                                                                                                  I freaking love the energy they exude in this Movie. The backup singers rule!

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                                                                                                    Hip-Hop is pretty much the only genre i really dislike. I just don't get the point of it, why listen to a bunch of guys talking about various bad things about their lives?

                                                                                                    Don't get me wrong, i'm sure there's good hip-hop out there which i haven't listened to, i just don't get the appeal.

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                                                                                                      Metal is really the only genre I feel that strongly toward anymore. I even used to feel hateful of Prog rock when I was dumb and didn't really understand what a simple fun appeal it had (as opposed to the joyless pretention I assumed of it). Now I'm lovin' Gabriel era Genesis and ….I....I. loved Tarkus!!! The ELP album! God help me I never imagined I would but I did!!!

                                                                                                      But Metal.....mmmmm....Metal.
                                                                                                      See I can dig stuff like Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and some Metallica. I like Metal that still has melody, so I guess Power Metal and stuff like Dream Theater I respect.

                                                                                                      But stuff like Death Metal? Black Metal?
                                                                                                      The stuff that becomes pretty much just sludgey noise with screaming and grunting indecipherable vocals?

                                                                                                      I...just cannot whatsoever see the actual musical appeal in that.
                                                                                                      I see the appeal of why people would like the mood and imagery (much of which...I just find hopelessly corny). But not the pure music.

                                                                                                      And I feel kind of hypocritical since I'm a massive Hip-Hop fan, and I know well the hugely unfair condescenion that Metal fans deal with, so I feel like...I'm wrong to feel this way. But I don't know.

                                                                                                      This? This is stuff I get, even LIKE. This kind of Metal.

                                                                                                      ! ysGdhiyjMNg

                                                                                                      But this…this I absolutely cannot see how it's possible to musically enjoy something like this. And not because of any kind of being offended, but god help me, above all else because...

                                                                                                      ! GOQuX7pCiPo

                                                                                                      ..because it's like a huge joke! This has got to be a joke! The singing I mean. it's certainly making me laugh….it's just you're kidding me right?

                                                                                                      Wagomu help!

                                                                                                      Extreme metal is an odd territory for the uninitiated. I don't really know how to describe it to people outside. It seems to be a very polarizing genre. I think the best way to put it is that it's very primal. Pure id. That's why things like moshing go so well with it. We listen to it because it satisfies our darker sides. If you think about it, both death metal and black metal are extremely percussive, almost purely so. People complain that there's no melody in death and black metal, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It contributes to the pure primitive energy in it. In a sense, you could say its similar to hip-hop in that it's about being carried by the rhythm. The difference is in the mood the rhythm sets.

                                                                                                      For death metal, perhaps you chose the wrong place to dive in. It can be very layered and take a lot of getting used to if you start in the wrong place. I think these would be simpler to understand than Cryptopsy:

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                                                                                                      Black metal is a bit more polarizing, probably because it's a lot more simplistic and nihilistic in both attitude and sound (and the lo-fi recording tendencies), but I think it is much more melodic as well. Try these as jumping off points:

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                                                                                                      Of course, it's tough getting into the genres directly without the right attitude. If you really want to make the effort, I say try understanding it by going through early thrash through early Celtic Frost and DEFINITELY Venom. I think they serve as the missing link between the heavy metal you enjoy and the more inaccessible styles:

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                                                                                                        This is a subject I'm not good at. No matter what, I can find a genre I like in different shades. Sure, I hate a portion of country music, but throw Dolly Parton, Reba, maybe some Garth Brooks in my direction, and I'll survive.

                                                                                                        I mean, if I had to pick a favorite on that list, it'd be Pop. At the same time, I loathe Justin Bieber, Train, 50% of Ke$ha, Chris Brown, etc… So if I hate a genre, it's most likely not entirely.

                                                                                                        I'm going to have to jump on the 'Metal' bandwagon. I can think of a few counter examples, but when songs are just random guitar, drums, and lyrics beyond logical recognition......no thanks.

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