@Nex:
This would be on a different level, as it would have to end in a mass death of sorts.
Or they could just come back as humans.
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
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I did suggest a couple of chapters ago that the living toys may be the result of a devil fruit. The power to turn humans into toys.
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I read a bizarre fan-theory today.
Someone suggested "perhaps the 'toys' are former humans, and the one-legged toy soldier used to be Kyros in his human life."
At first I laughed, then realized how frightening that would be, if when they are turned into toys, all memory of the said person is erased from the world. :wassat:
To be honest, I had a similar theory. But I took my theory even further. I speculated that it's part of Donflamingo's devil fruit power. I suspect him to have a puppeteer fruit, or something along those lines, that allows him to take control over other people and turn them into puppets.
I think all the toys on Dresrossa are Don's puppets. But I don't think its a permanent change. That would be too dark as Nex said, and not Oda's style. Instead I think Donflamingo can turn them back, or at least restore their memories, or something like that. Who knows. We'll see.
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A puppeteer fruit on Doflamingo has become less and less likely over time, as we've also seen him cut people from a distance (like with Oars' leg), which you could do with string but not really with puppeteering.
Also, we saw strings on his fingers last time we saw him in Punk Hazard. -
. . . Not really. The toys seem like they're living out regular, happy lives (despite being, you know, TOYS). Its really just an odd form of reincarnation assuming the transformations are done at or close to natural death.
I'm still fairly curious where they actually come from, but my bet is that it has something to do with the fairies on the island.
Yeah. That's a theory I've been tossing around in my head.
That the living toys aren't really living toys, instead, they are being controlled by these fabled fairies of Dressrosa.
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A puppeteer fruit on Doflamingo has become less and less likely over time, as we've also seen him cut people from a distance (like with Oars' leg), which you could do with string but not really with puppeteering.
Also, we saw strings on his fingers last time we saw him in Punk Hazard.I would say the exact opposite is true. If anything the puppeteer fruit or puppet puppet fruit is exactly what he has and he his cutting with the puppets string. A little color of arms should be all that's needed to give the string that razor like quality.
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Doflamingo's fruit could definitely be the Puppet Puppet fruit - Law's Op-Op fruit has basically shown us that certain paramecia can have a fairly extensive range of abilities - but it being the String-String fruit would also make sense. The japanese word for string, "himo", is also slang for a pimp, which is a pretty accurate descriptor of what Doflamingo is.
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A puppeteer fruit on Doflamingo has become less and less likely over time, as we've also seen him cut people from a distance (like with Oars' leg), which you could do with string but not really with puppeteering.
Just because he can cut people with his strings doesn't mean the idea of him having a puppeteer fruit is less likely. There is still the fact that we actually saw Don-san using his strings to control people, in other words: using them as marionettes in other words: puppeteering.
Also, we saw strings on his fingers last time we saw him in Punk Hazard.
Which actually STRENGTHENS the idea of Don-san having a puppeteer fruit.
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I have theory about Doc Q.
Somehow this guy is able to create diseases which effect to himself too (but still doensn't kill him?). Whole countries might died because of his work. This way he would perferct opposite to Chopper, who tries cure people as much as he can.
From the time's of plague, dead and diseases has been represented by grim reaper, which Doc Q clearly is.
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Just because he can cut people with his strings doesn't mean the idea of him having a puppeteer fruit is less likely. There is still the fact that we actually saw Don-san using his strings to control people, in other words: using them as marionettes in other words: puppeteering.
Which actually STRENGTHENS the idea of Don-san having a puppeteer fruit.
Okay it may be a puppeteer fruit with which he can use strings normally as well, I'll agree to that.
Also explains the fact why he could effortlessly control somebody like Jozu. just pure strings which he uses on own power would at that point indicate that he is a lot above Jozu's level.However i have to point out that the second part of your post doesn't really make sense.
Because we saw strings the thought of him having a puppeteer fruit isnt really strengthened in my opinion.
It still points towards both fruits - either string or puppeteer (even a bit more towards string since a puppeteer fruit could also work without using actual string) -
Okay it may be a puppeteer fruit with which he can use strings normally as well, I'll agree to that.
As I explained in the Chapter threads, so far, Paramecia fruits have never been related to titles or positions (i.e. Puppeteer, Doctor, etc) They've only been branded with things/objects: Rubber, Paint, Shadows, Candles, Doors, Clone. It is through the objects/things that the various powers and capabilities develop into more than what you would usually associate with that particular thing. Law and Kuma's fruit are great examples of this. Would you ever associate shockwaves with paws?
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For me, it would make more sense for it to be a string fruit and Dofla using it very cleverly to control people than the other way around, I think it's more original this way, strings are objects like many other ones fruits are named after, but puppeteer doesn't sound that good to me
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@Devil:
For me, it would make more sense for it to be a string fruit and Dofla using it very cleverly to control people than the other way around, I think it's more original this way, strings are objects like many other ones fruits are named after, but puppeteer doesn't sound that good to me
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@Devil:
For me, it would make more sense for it to be a string fruit and Dofla using it very cleverly to control people than the other way around, I think it's more original this way, strings are objects like many other ones fruits are named after, but puppeteer doesn't sound that good to me
this, and i don't think the living toys have anything to do with DD. I think the fairies are what's behind the toys lively hood and the 1 legged toy mentioned a toys job was to bring laughter, not something i see happening under the control of a tyrant pimp king.
Not to mention the toys seem oddly well integrated to society if they only "came alive" when DD became king (10 years ago?).
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I think the fairies are what's behind the toys lively hood and the 1 legged toy mentioned a toys job was to bring laughter, not something i see happening under the control of a tyrant pimp king.
.We have no reason to believe that Flamingo was a tyrant or that he is cruel to the people of Dressrosa. People actually seem to love Flamingo.
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@Fleet-Admiral:
I have theory about Doc Q.
Somehow this guy is able to create diseases which effect to himself too (but still doensn't kill him?). Whole countries might died because of his work. This way he would perferct opposite to Chopper, who tries cure people as much as he can.
From the time's of plague, dead and diseases has been represented by grim reaper, which Doc Q clearly is.
Good guess. I think you are right. He surely looks like Death as one of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
http://www.albrecht-durer.org/72527/The-Four-Horsemen-Of-The-Apocalypse-large.jpg
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It still points towards both fruits - either string or puppeteer (even a bit more towards string since a puppeteer fruit could also work without using actual string)
Then please explain to me how a puppeteer is supposed to control his puppets without strings. How would such a fruit work, if not with strings?
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@Devil:
For me, it would make more sense for it to be a string fruit and Dofla using it very cleverly to control people than the other way around, I think it's more original this way, strings are objects like many other ones fruits are named after, but puppeteer doesn't sound that good to me
I disagree. We've seen plenty of outlandish paramecia fruits, and a puppeteer paramecia fruit would actually be very original. A string fruit sounds plain and boring to me, and it doesn't even make all that much sense.
But wait, I have another theory:
What if Donflamingo is a zoan type? That's right, you read that correctly, I just said that Don could be a zoan. He could have a spider-type zoan fruit. We just haven't seen his animal form yet. His strings are spider strings, and Don is very clever in using his spider strings for constraining and controlling his enemies, as well as cutting them.
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I read a bizarre fan-theory today.
Someone suggested "perhaps the 'toys' are former humans, and the one-legged toy soldier used to be Kyros in his human life."
At first I laughed, then realized how frightening that would be, if when they are turned into toys, all memory of the said person is erased from the world. :wassat:
That's not as bad as experimenting drugs on kids.
Adding to this, the "fairies" everyone keeps talking about is actually someone with the a devil fruit that turns people into toys, or at least take another's soul and put it into something else.
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One of the Funk Brothers is based on Benicio Del Toro.
And Orombus is based on Hulk Hogan.
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Kerry Funk is based on Terry Funk, the pro-wrestler and partner of his brother Bobby Funk, also a wrestler.
They were both EXTREMELY popular figures in Japan.
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About the puppeteer thing, no its not related w/ dofla.
Its not just about moving toy but living toy that can speak, act with his own will etc. Sure more facts are needed before developing a theory about them. It could be any dumb theory..
And how can the toys make kids, or can they.. I kinda read explanation that human married with toy or it was only my imagination? -
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But wait, I have another theory:
What if Donflamingo is a zoan type? That's right, you read that correctly, I just said that Don could be a zoan. He could have a spider-type zoan fruit. We just haven't seen his animal form yet. His strings are spider strings, and Don is very clever in using his spider strings for constraining and controlling his enemies, as well as cutting them.
Not a new theory. And it was rebutted already.
Spiders can't produce web from their fingers (they don't even have fingers in the first place).
And becoming a spider is already Onigumo's gimmick anyway.
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Not a new theory. And it was rebutted already.
Spiders can't produce web from their fingers (they don't even have fingers in the first place).
And becoming a spider is already Onigumo's gimmick anyway.
Though I'm not going to argue that Doflamingo has a Spider Zoan, Onigumo doesn't necessarily have the only Spider Zoan in the series.
After all there are numerous dog fruits, so there very likely could be more than one Spider fruit.
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I have a thought, that I think was stated earlier in this thread, but I'll say it anyways since I'm too lazy to look earlier.
I believe that the toy-soldier is related to Violet in some way, or some sort of Ballerina character set to appear in the story. Now it may just be a coincidence, but seeing the many references Oda takes from many fairy tales, stories, and myths; I think he's basing him off the story of the "Steadfast Tin Soldier", where a toy soldier with one leg falls in love with a Ballerina toy, before being melted alive in a boiling furnace along with her. Though I don't expect the death part to come into play outside of a fake out, I do feel Oda is taking some inspiration, and it could influence how the character works with the story.
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Though I'm not going to argue that Doflamingo has a Spider Zoan, Onigumo doesn't necessarily have the only Spider Zoan in the series.
After all there are numerous dog fruits, so there very likely could be more than one Spider fruit.
I may not buy into the "Mingo has a spider zoan" yet but there is the slightest chance it could be. Sure Spiders don't spin thread from their fingers but its also true that spiders have their legs come out of the sides and don't have legs coming from the hair like Onigumo does. IF that can be altered, so can the threads.
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You're right that there can be possibly more than one model of spiders, just like there is of dogs. And we don't mix up Jabra (inu inu no mi: model wolf) with Dalmatian (inu inu no mi: model dalmatian) or any of the others. …just how many dog zoans are there? …. seems there are five = 1-Chaka -Jackal
2-Lasoo - Dachshund
3-Jabra - wolf
4-Dalmatian - Dalmatian
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Does Dalmatian actually have a dog zoan? did we ever see it in action?
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Does Dalmatian actually have a dog zoan? did we ever see it in action?
Isn't he in the hybrid form all the time?
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I may not buy into the "Mingo has a spider zoan" yet but there is the slightest chance it could be. Sure Spiders don't spin thread from their fingers but its also true that spiders have their legs come out of the sides and don't have legs coming from the hair like Onigumo does. IF that can be altered, so can the threads. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100902062244/onepiece/images/thumb/5/5d/Onigumo_back.PNG/200px-Onigumo_back.PNGand http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121125061411/onepiece/images/thumb/c/ca/Spider_Demon_Man.JPG/200px-Spider_Demon_Man.JPG You're right that there can be possibly more than one model of spiders, just like there is of dogs. And we don't mix up Jabra (inu inu no mi: model wolf) with Dalmatian (inu inu no mi: model dalmatian) or any of the others. …just how many dog zoans are there? …. seems there are five = 1-Chaka -Jackal
2-Lasoo - Dachshund
3-Jabra - wolf
4-Dalmatian - Dalmatian
5-Minochihuahua - ChihuahuaWe don't know if Onigumo's hair arms are fruit of his…well, fruit. It could be Life Return.
We know he has a Spider Zoan because of his visible Spider abdomen in that shot.
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Isn't he in the hybrid form all the time?
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Huh. I always thought the half-dog head was just a hat. I don't think I ever noticed the tail and the dog feet….
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Then please explain to me how a puppeteer is supposed to control his puppets without strings. How would such a fruit work, if not with strings?
Just playing the Devil's advocate but; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventriloquism
It's like puppeteering, without strings.Though I do believe Donquixote has a String String Fruit.
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Isn't he in the hybrid form all the time?
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I think so, at least at the war he was. All we see is his the half human/half dog face
Huh. I always thought the half-dog head was just a hat. I don't think I ever noticed the tail and the dog feet….
At first I thought the same. I though he was wearing a dog mask, similar how Garp was wearing one when he first appeared. It was shown better in the anime, but there was a scene in the manga that showed he was a dog zoan. I think it was when he attacked Luffy.
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Bartholomew Roberts, the likely inspiration for Kuma, was a follower of the "Pirate's Code" established by Bartolomeu Portugues.
Bartolomeu Portugues was a Caribbean pirate in the 17th century, and likely to be the inspiration for our new rookie character.
Note that his name also shares inspiration for Ace, whose Mera Mera fruit is the prize of this Colosseum.I can see a possible parallel here.
Blackbeard, Whitebeard, and Thatch are all based on the real life pirate Marshall "Blackbeard" Teach (also known as Thatch). And what did the One Piece version of Blackbeard do? He took the powers of the other two.
And now, we have a "Bartolomeo" entering the stage, gunning for Ace's fruit.Odd parallel, eh?
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I don't even know if this is a theory or not, but I'll post it here.
that scene of Dolfa saying that he will resign if he gets bored was actually a foreshadowing for the events we are witnessing now, even if he lied a little bit, even if he cared about his title a little bit, point still stands, everyone in his country is perfectly calm, and he last time we saw him he wasn't that pissed, really. and its true he was pissed at Law but maybe that happened because he felt humiliated(thats the word, right?) because the only reason he had to leave is because of a rookie pirate and another who was a part of his crew.how does that sound to you, guys?
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This phony honor code that puts you on your throne, a double standard you invoke when you want~
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So you think Bartolomeo is gonna get the mera-mera?
I have theory on Rebecca:
The reason Rebecca why rebecca was being laught out why being called the "undefeated woman" was because she never fought in the colliseum. When she was a young girl like many of the youngster of Dressrosa she wanted to become gladiator and become like their hero Ikareos. But in those time she was just a frail girl only good at being of punching-bag of Spartan and being mocked by her comrade because no girl have ever become(or can become) an gladiator. But this tournament she'll finaly get the chance to prove herself in front of everyone.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Bartolomeo might be Gin. He was a strong pirate(as strong as Sanji I think), promise to reunite with Sanji and was brutal. Seems to fit with the idea it's someone we know.
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The inspiration from Batolomeu Português is clearly plausible scenario. And the parallels with Blackbeard/Whitebeard/Thatch case would be really interesting, whatever the outcome to the plot. Yet, is it a bit too soon to narrow it to Bartolomeu Português, no? Bartolomeu Dias and Bartholomew Roberts are also strong possibilities (even thought the second "seems" to be already taken by Kuma, but that could be argued to Português as well…).
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Just watched the Movie Z, and that made me think that maybe Bartolomeo might have been the one who cut Z's arm
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Just watched the Movie Z, and that made me think that maybe Bartolomeo might have been the one who cut Z's arm
I'm sure Eggman would have mentioned something about Bartolomeo being a Shichibukai instead of just a crazy rookie from a year ago.
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I just watch movie Z and noticed the name of the marine's song in japanese ocean Guide is 海導 Kaidou, Could it be a hint about kaidou being an ex-marine?, it would explain drake X behaviour, don't you think?
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Every CP-0 member will represent one of the races of the OP world. The ones we saw this chapter were a Long Leg, a Long Arm and a normal human. There also will be a Fishman, a Snake Neck, a Dwarf, a Giant, a Mink and maybe also a Mermen.
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I don't even know if this is a theory or not, but I'll post it here.
that scene of Dolfa saying that he will resign if he gets bored was actually a foreshadowing for the events we are witnessing now, even if he lied a little bit, even if he cared about his title a little bit, point still stands, everyone in his country is perfectly calm, and he last time we saw him he wasn't that pissed, really. and its true he was pissed at Law but maybe that happened because he felt humiliated(thats the word, right?) because the only reason he had to leave is because of a rookie pirate and another who was a part of his crew.how does that sound to you, guys?
I don't think any supernova 2 years ago is a rookie anymore, Liffy isn't a rookie pirate but his a New world Rookie cuz he just entered NW and is a beginner of it.
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CC for nakama.
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海導 is read "Umi shirube", dude.
Sorry, I found it mistranslated as kaidou several times.
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I don't think any supernova 2 years ago is a rookie anymore, Liffy isn't a rookie pirate but his a New world Rookie cuz he just entered NW and is a beginner of it.
I think luffy is big time pirate.
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Green Bit will have a Poneglyph.
(I hope we'll get to see one soon and it sounds like an appropriate island for one. Elbaf too)
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Green Bit will have a Poneglyph.
(I hope we'll get to see one soon and it sounds like an appropriate island for one. Elbaf too)
Hmm, i think Wa No is better suited, though it does not rule out GreenBit having one of course but 2 consecutive Poneglyphs could be a bit too much
