If the CDS were replacing anyone, it was probably the D that were letting the different races from the moon and wherever else live with them. Now the CDs can say who comes and goes on the Red Line after they take it over with the help of some traitor. Tontatta Granpa said the Donquixote beef goes back 900 years. Maybe there's a race for every "House"/CD fam. The Elders and Im represent the families that lead the charge. Lunarians, Giants etc got the boot or were dwindled down through the years.
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
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With Zoro out of commission, Luffy most surely will lose the Davy Back Fight against Shanks on Elbaf. Shanks needed to take his hat back — alongside Luffy’s Jolly Roger and Nico Robin. Bellamy will probably be killed by Shanks.
@Ghidorah:
Dr. Vegapunk is actually a dumbass. He's the public face of a two-man team, with Kizaru operating behind the scenes as the real genius of the partnership. However, Kizaru's scientific expertise is limited to practical application and technical know-how; he relies almost exclusively on Vegapunk's savant creativity and imagination to provide the inspiration for the bulk of his discoveries and achievements. Vegapunk is Kizaru's muse of sorts, supplying him with original, novel ideas to build upon.
For example, the concept of zoan-infused objects? Inspired by one of Vegapunk's goofy sketches or some offhand idle chatter.
Wouldn't it be neat if you could get a _____ to eat a zoan fruit?
….Eureeka! insert image of lightbulb blinking above Kizaru's head
LOL
Both of these theories seem like they'd fit better in the dumb predictions thread.
No offense.
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What if the pirate crew that attacked Rumbar Pirates with poisoned arrows 50 years ago was Rocks' one?
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The Marine Admirals have been codenamed based off the Chinese zodiac with relation to the story of Momotaro and designed from older Japanese actors. There includes two Vice Admirals that share the same themes minus the connection to the Momotaro story, as far as I know.
Akainu (Red Dog): Bunta Sugawara
Kizaru (Yellow Monkey): Kunie Tanaka
Fujitora ("Purple" Tiger): Shintaro Katsu
Ryokugyu (Green Bull): Yoshio Harada; not confirmed but most likely
Aokiji (Blue Pheasant): Yusaku Matsuda
Momousagi (Pink Rabbit): Michiyo Kogure
Chaton (Brown Pig): Kiyoshi AtsumiAfter seeing this, there are still open slots for animals and colors. Now, not all representatives will be based off Japanese actors. Two spots can be filled by current Marines.
Kinyagi (Gold Goat): Sengoku
Shirohebi (White Serpent) or Shiromamushi (White Viper): SmokerThat leaves dragon, horse, and rat unfilled of the Zodiac animals. All primary and secondary colors have been used except orange. Black, gray, and silver are other colors that may fit. For the theory's sake, assume Dragon was an ex-Marine.
Kuroryu (Black Dragon): Monkey D Dragon
So if Oda does decide to expand then the choices could be:
Daidainezu or Daidaiuma (Orange Rat | Horse)
Hainezu or Haiuma (Gray Rat | Horse)
Ginnezu or Ginuma (Silver Rat | Horse)The Japanese actors that may fit include Ken Takakura, Sonny Chiba, and Toshiro Mifune.
I am gonna guess if Zephyr's existence as mid-canon despite the film (information revealed into his Volume 1000 were also referred to in Kuzan's Vivre Card, as his joining age) would make him fit into as the Black Horse or something like that.
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Crackpot theory
King Queen and Jack have/had an older brother, coulda been a member of the Rocks pirates, a good deal older than the other three brothers that would eventually grow up to lead Kaido's army
Anyways Roger was good friends with this character and told Rouge to name their child after him.
May Your Days Be Filled With Wild 'n' Waxy Wahoolazuma!
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@2xN:
Crackpot theory
King Queen and Jack have/had an older brother, coulda been a member of the Rocks pirates, a good deal older than the other three brothers that would eventually grow up to lead Kaido's army
Anyways Roger was good friends with this character and told Rouge to name their child after him.
Since when are those three related to have an an older brother? Or do you mean in the "big bro" sense?
Another way to explain Ace's name and why Kaido doesn't have an "Ace" in his card name themed crew is always welcome though.
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Shakki isn't simply a former Rocks Pirate; she's also formerly the World's Greatest Swordsman. Or World's Greatest Swordswoman, at the very least, with Rayleigh either being a co-holder of the Title or an equal male counterpart.
Oda's soon going to unveil a big showcase on Girl Power coming up, with heavy focus being shone on many prolific female figures, past and present. His supposed "misogynistic" attitude was simply a very calculated, long-term masterstroke of misdirection intended to throw people off from the many surprises to come.
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Hiyori is no wallflower; she's secretly a certified badass with an agenda all her own, which will play out very soon when she ultimately seemingly betrays the good guys. More to the point, she's a very capable combatant in her own right, as hinted by her walloping Orochi.
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Not only did this childhood tomboy secretly spy on her dad and the other Scabbards' sword training, it'll be revealed she also underwent direct training from not just Kawamatsu but Denjiro as well.
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Behold yet another mythological zoan, one that not only grants her the power to manipulate corpses, but also grants her nine lives, a counter of sorts to Orochi's own Hydra-like abilities: Mythological Neko Neko Model: Nekomata, the two-tailed cat yokai of Japanese lore.
Zoro is going to lose Enma. He's going to instead have to settle for Oden's other sword, which works in the opposite away: it will simply refuse to allow the wielder to infuse it with haki.
Pluton isn't just buried underneath Alabasta; in a way, Alabasta is Pluton, as in Pluton being an island ship similar to Thriller Bark, albeit decked out with far greater tech. In fact, both Iceburg and Frankly may've clued us in as to Pluton's true nature based off their respective ventures. Ideas can be infectious, and difficult to put out of mind once they take root afterall…I believe that both Iceburg and Franky, subconsciously or otherwise, each took inspiration from glimpsing Pluton's blueprints, applying some aspect of its design to their works, ie Iceburg's goal to turn Water 7 into a floating island, and Franky's docking system and other transformation tech.
Bad news for Vivi and friends: Alabasta itself is getting hijacked and coming along for the ride.
Very soon, worldwide panic will set in, and the WG will be given severe cause to worry: a number of key islands and locations are going to start up and vanishing. Turns out Oars ain't the only "continent puller" out there, as some as-yet unknown party/parties is out there absconding with islands. Included among the missing? Impel Down, currently housing not only Doflamingo and his crew, but probably Hancock soon enough.
The culprit? A returning Shiki, mastermind behind a resurgent Rocks Pirate Crew. Worse still, he's been gathering discontented nations under his flag under the pretense of mounting a Revolution in the name of freedom against the WG, with Wano to serve as the centerpiece ( kinda like....Mariejoise ) of this Red Dawn...literally. Many of the aforementioned missing islands and rebel nations are going to be moved to flanking positions around the greater landmass of Wano, forming a pattern much like that of the sun symbols strewn throughout the One Piece landscape.
Sun good, Moon bad? Not quite.
Blackbeard himself is likely a direct descendant of Joyboy. At the very least, he'll be teased as being the shocking true "reincarnation" of Joyboy, as he will in his own way fulfill the ancient prophecies by opening Wano's borders...in most literal fashion. He's either going to blow apart the volcanic rockwall surrounding the Wano mainland or trigger a volcanic eruption that will inevitably threaten to bring everything crashing down. Yes, Wano is located in the caldera of a volcano.
That giant skull? Belonged to a massive figure who long ago preceded Oden's iconic death by holding up all of "Wano" in the midst of a lava flow. That giant sword located on Onigashima? It was used to provide the merciful killing stroke, similar to Kaido's own coup de grace on Oden or the mercy often bestowed by a second during the ritual seppuku ceremony.
This is how Kaido will eventually meet his dramatic end after a dramatic series of events, and in a way achieve his own much sought-after glorious death and perhaps some small bit of redemption...by saving the life of Luffy, Momo, or perhaps even all of Wano in some final sacrificial act. The one to provide the final merciful killing stroke? Zoro.
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Any one else think that volumes 99, 100 & 101 have shared title as they also share art work?
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@Ghidorah:
Shakki isn't simply a former Rocks Pirate; she's also formerly the World's Greatest Swordsman. Or World's Greatest Swordswoman, at the very least, with Rayleigh either being a co-holder of the Title or an equal male counterpart.
Oda's soon going to unveil a big showcase on Girl Power coming up, with heavy focus being shone on many prolific female figures, past and present. His supposed "misogynistic" attitude was simply a very calculated, long-term masterstroke of misdirection intended to throw people off from the many surprises to come.
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So Kuina's dad is the mysoginistic one for not telling her about the world's greatest swordswoman?
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That weird feeling Sanji is having is his conqueror's haki about to be unleashed.
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Momo will use ame no habakiri at least once against kaido and use a cut technique called sunnachi
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When we caught a glimpse of Vegapunk's lab back during Punk Hazzard, there appeared to be a shattered container opposite the one where Momo discovered the artificial dragon fruit. It's a fair assumption that another of Vegapunk's artificial devil fruits once resided there, and one of presumably similar value to Momo's.
Seeing as Vegapunk not only worked on artificial dragons and dragon-based fruits, and given the Numbers' connection to Punk Hazard, I speculate Vegapunk may have likewise been working on similar research with respect to Ancient Giants. In other words, my theory is that Vegapunk succeeded in creating a successful artificial Ancient Giant devil fruit, or at least one on the same level as Momo's, barring any future wrinkles being revealed.
That'd leaves us with an intriguing question: who made off with it?
Bonus rampant speculation: the immediate assumption is that Vegapunk likely would've derived the Ancient Giant lineage factor from the specimen whose skull we glimpsed. But with the recent confirmation concerning Kaido's race, and the taking into account the possibility the Oni carry the blood of Ancient Giants, a crazy thought emerges: what if Vegapunk took advantage and double dipped into his lineage factor to likewise fuel his Ancient Giant experiments….and succeed in creating something akin to an artificial KAIDO devil fruit? :V
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Kaido: The Blood Of Oni
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Kaido/Yamato being confirmed to have the blood of Oni/Ogres is actually a huge development and one I have been waiting on confirmation for. And I still believe that the Ancient Giant tribe – which has not yet been named – are the Oni/Ogres Kaido mentions. Yes, the Ancient Giant tribe are Oni/Ogres.Not only does Kaido bear a striking resemblance to the Ancients Giants we have seen so far in the manga who also resemble Oni/Ogres – Oars and Little Oars Jr (minus the size) – but he is also associated with Punk Hazard which is in turn linked to the story of Ancient Giants. Beyond the experiments conducted on the Numbers, Punk Hazard also contains other elements connecting it to the Ancient Giants; the larger-than-a-giant-skull with horns and the irregular warning symbol at the entrance of Punk Hazard. When this is taken together with the belief that Ancient Giants are Oni/Ogres, it makes complete sense why the Marines would take an immense interest in Kaido and the research into his Bloodline Element.
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@Syphin:I do not believe Kaido had Ancient Giant DNA injected into him while being experimented on but rather I believe Kaido was linked to the Ancient Giants from birth through his blood - Kaido’s younger self silhouette from his Rocks Pirates days showed him with Ancient Giant-type horns at that time. Kaido could be a very unique variant of the Ancient Giant or only part Ancient Giant
As for Yamato's design, I also find it appealing. Personally, I would have preferred if Yamato had a more monstrous/non-human design (like Monet whose design I love). But with Oda teasing the readers to a potential transformation from Yamato, I really do wonder if Oda has a more beastly design for Yamato already planned. I also look forward to Big Mom's meeting with Yamato. They haven't met yet but when she meets Yamato, will Yamato's appearance and unique race (part Ancient Giant? Oni?) appeal to Big Mom's fascination such as with the non-human Straw Hat Pirate members (Brook, Jinbe, Chopper, Franky).
And this is not even touching on the race Yamato belongs to. At this point it is obvious Yamato is not just a normal human. They have some connection to the Ancient Giants. Yamato may have part Ancient Giant DNA in them.
When you realise the coming arcs involve Elbaf and Vegapunk, it leaves the door massively open for further story to be developed on any Ancient Giants/Giants in general and the experiments the World Government may have done on them or with their DNA either pre-Vegapunk and after employing him. If Yamato is really related to the Ancient Giants, their relevance to the story of Giants and Vegapunk could be substantial.
@Solid.
Yeah you are right, it is presumptuous of me to rest on Yamato being part Ancient Giant at this point in time.Still, Kaido purchasing the failed Artificially Produced Ancient Giants from Punk Hazard and keeping them part of his organisation for 20+ years does make me believe that there is something connected between the two.
I don't believe Oda just introduced the Numbers to gauge the crews development from Thriller Bark as I believe the Pacifista thrashing post time-skip served to convey the crews power-up adequately.
Wano potentially being an Island constructed of many different Islands pulled together by Ancient Giants and Onigashima Island having a Giant Skull and Blade does also leaves me curious.
If Kaido were to be revealed to be part Ancient Giant (and by extension Yamato), it would make sense.
I'm quite fascinated to learn about Kaido and Yamato's blood and what their connection to Ancients Giants are.
Too many crumbs leading to the Ancient Giants and Giants in general have been left for it to be mere coincidence. Numbers, Kaido, the Beast Pirate motif, Wano Kuni Island structure, Onigashima and the massive sword left there, that giant Kuri Castle Gate, the giant gondola at Mogura Port which can fit all 10 Numbers. With only around half a decade of story left, this arc (which may have a year left of story) seems like a good time to reveal more information about the Ancient Giants which appear to be an important factor for the Marines and the research their scientist have conducted during the years.
If Elbaf is connected to the Sky Islands via its massive tree, then there are two potential arcs that may involve further focus on the Ancients Giants - Elbaf and Vegapunk. The Marines and/or Vegapunk studied Giants, Ancient Giants and likely even Kaido when he was captured. Such plot threads are leading somewhere and if Kaido is defeated in this arc (and captured), the story of his blood may become one carried on by his child, Yamato.
Would be amusing and quite interesting if Elbaf provides Wano with the wood they use to build the towns/cities/stuff with via trade.
Kaido is likely connected to the Ancient Giants and by extension, so is Yamato. If Kaido is defeated within this arc and taken out of the story focus, it will be Yamato who will drive this mystery if there is in fact a connection between the Ancients Giants and Kaido and Yamato.
If one looks, there is an immense amount of potential existing in Yamato. I have mentioned several since his introduction. And others have too.
I believe the Numbers are the failed experiments created by Vegapunk (we do know he attempted Gigantification and failed - thanks Caesar for reminding us). The suspcious naming choices of the Numbers and Dragon Number Thirteen makes me suspect they are connected. Sure a Tenryuubito did name the Dragon on Punk Hazard but it was the name Oda attached to the Dragon. Number 1-10 for the Ancient Giant experiments and numbers above that for his future experiments which also involve the Dragons he created.
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Anyway, yeah I'm interested in the One Piece Giants. They have constantly been a plot thread in the story since Little Garden and been positioned as relevant players within the story throughout the Grand Line - Enies Lobby, Thriller Bark, Battle of Marineford, Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, Big Mom's desires, Kaido's Army, Wano Kuni, the World Government, Noah the "Ship of Promise", the Giant Straw Hat, "that World Tree", one of Usopp's dream, Vegapunk, Caesar, the Will of D (Jaguar D Saul), Skypiea, etc.
I expect Elbaf to be a major story arc that could also extend into a Sky Island (or several), so any character attached to the history/story of Giants can benefit from it as it would increase the relevance they have in that arc and in the overall One Piece story. Urouge seems set to be a major supporting character within the Elbaf Arc.
Kaido’s Lineage Factor/Bloodline Element has become a substantial aspect to the research conducted by Vegapunk and the Marine Scientists. The CP-0 have already confirmed that when Kaido was captured by the Marines he was experimented on with his Bloodline Element being used by Vegapunk to create the Artificial Devil Fruit that Momonosuke has consumed. Beyond the Artificial Devil Fruit there are also connections with Kaido’s Bloodline Element being used to experiment on the Numbers. The connections they share with Kaido are too substantial to ignore as separate. Additionally, the Dragons Vegapunk developed also appear to be based on his research into Kaido’s Bloodline Element. Further, there may have been other subjects that were used in the research into Kaido’s Bloodline Element, specifically, the Jailer Beasts of Impel Down. The blood Kaido possess has become an incredibly valuable component in the Marines research in creating “weapons” that can strengthen their forces and I find myself curious as to how else the Marine Scientists (and Vegapunk) have weaponized Kaido’s Bloodline Element. Will Kaido’s blood and ancestry become a core story thread going forward as the secrets of the past hidden away by the World Government are uncovered?
The reasoning for why I believe Kaido’s Bloodline Element was used in the experimentation of the “Numbers” is because of the shared characteristics they have with Kaido and the interest Kaido took in them. The Numbers have displayed certain features and tendencies similar to Kaido (oni-features), mainly the horns and the love for alcohol. Kaido and the Numbers also share in the use of the same type of weapon – kanabō. Kaido could have realised the connection he had with the Numbers when they went up for sale on the black market and consequently purchased them as Big Mom mentioned.
In addition, the Dragons Vegapunk created to serve as guards of Punk Hazard (Dragon Number Thirteen and Small Dragon) are likely also based off his research into Kaido’s Bloodline Element. The naming convention of the Numbers and Dragon Number Thirteen suggest some connection regardless of the Dragon being named by a Tenryuubito. The reason the Dragons survived the Shinokuni poison from four years ago when Caesar activated his weapon and the battle between Sakazuki and Kuzan could be the result of having Kaido’s Bloodline Element. In addition to the thick skin, the flame breath could also have been the result of Kaido’s blood.
Turning to the Jailer Beast, what makes me believe they are related to Kaido? There isn’t anything definitive but rather an interpretation framed by reading between the lines. Something was clearly odd with the Jailer Beast when they were featured during the Impel Down Arc. Not only were their humans forms not revealed but their exact Devil Fruits were also kept a mystery not to mention the absence of speech. The Jailer Beasts may have been the initial attempts by the Marine Scientists at utilising Kaido’s Bloodline Element to enhance a soldier. Could Kaido’s blood have brought the Jailer Beast to a sort-of awakening Zoan state? Was this the original intent of the experiments on the Jailer Beast? The side-effects of such experiments could have rendered the Jailer Beast unable to shift back into human form and the loss of speech. The scene where Kaido viciously beats Yamato while he is on the ground in chapter 1025 reminded me of Minotaurus beating Jinbe while he was imprisoned in Impel Down. It could be a coincidence but when you also take into account the club and spike weaponry the Jailer Beast use and their “fish” lips (as a result of the Uo Uo no Mi?), one does wonder if there really is no connection between Kaido and the Jailer Beasts.
I believe the Marines took interest in Kaido beyond just his Mythical Zoan Dragon Devi Fruit. It was Kaido's blood that also interested them. The research they have conducted in Ancient Giants appears to be based around their research into Kaido's Bloodline Element and the data extracted. Such a possibility leads me believe that Oni/Ogres are Ancient Giants. And if this is the case, the relevance Yamato could have in the upcoming Elbaf and Vegapunk stories would be major.
Edit: Kaido's dialogue to Yamato (his disdain for humans) also implies that Yamato's mother was likely not human.
I have an old theory that Yamato's mother was the same race as King, so I wonder if that will pan out O.o.
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I strongly believe Weevil actually is….something....akin to an erzatz "copy" of Whitebeard, and likely not the first or last we'll be seeing. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Jailer Beasts did turn out to be some kinda imperfect Kaido clones.
What with the general theories surrounding the SSG being some kinda Shichibukai clones, the Germa, the Pacifistas...Clone Wars probably coming to One Piece, I've no doubt in my mind.
On a related note, it makes me wonder if that's the reason why the SSG went after Lola and Chiffon: to harvest some of Big Mom's own lineage factor from some unguarded kin.
Also, straight up, I'm fully expecting a Luffy clone, or at least one that that looks very similar to him, popping up as well. Not only will it likely fit the embellished descriptions in the funny papers, I have a feeling it'll be this guy who'll be responsible for Fishman Island. Undecided on the latter front, but I'm fairly sure a Luffy doppelganger is coming; possibly Ace as well.
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Edit: Kaido's dialogue to Yamato (his disdain for humans) also implies that Yamato's mother was likely not human.
I have an old theory that Yamato's mother was the same race as King, so I wonder if that will pan out O.o.
This one's gonna get a volley of rotten veggies thrown at me, but I suspect Yamato is some secret lovechild a scheming Toki had with Kaido sometime prior to meeting Oden, to help further along along some long-term agenda.
That and Toki herself isn't actually human ( or fully anyways ); she may actually be a mermaid, perhaps even a direct relative of Joyboy's…and by extension making Yamato, Hiyori, and Momo very close bloodkin to Joyboy as well, possibly setting them up as possible candidates for the role of "Joyboy."
I happen to think Joyboy himself was most likely some kinda Ancient Giant or oni to some extent, so it'd only further heighten the irony here, so far as Momo's link to Kaido goes. Which would be no accident here, as we're seeing a general theme of opposing forces taking on each other's characteristics, blending into one another, gradually taking shape and growing ever more prevalent.
If not, I could also see her being some kind of Lunarian or other moon-related tribesperson by blood too; I'm fairly sure the daimyo ( and greater Wano population ) are all/mostly a bunch of impostors of sorts, and Toki will be revealed to hail from the true, original Amatsuki clan, having been driven out of Wano in the distant past along with other non-human races.
Who knows how it'll play out for certain? Hybrids, lineage factors, different races, questions of parentage, humanity, complicated history, ....methinks we're overall heading towards a huge plotline centered around the uncertainty of origins/genetics tied to mass cross-breeding...both in terms of lineage, culture, ideas, and other factors. The question of Sanji's exact "percentage" of humanity, may soon cast a wide net over all of Wano, and probably doesn't even end there.
Some of Wano's citizens sure are conspicuously tall after all, aren't they?
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In addition to all the other bad stuff I've mentioned before that'll contribute to the good guys' impending defeat, Hawkins is going to finally unveil one of those cards he hinted at earlier in the arc that could boost another's strength to power up some Beast Pirates, perhaps even draw the Fool in a non-reversed position this time to turn people against each other.
Fate is going to seemingly turn on the Strawhats shortly, so only fitting that Hawkins getting lucky with his cards would serve to paint a clear picture as to what's soon to commence.
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2 of the major kingdoms the crew visited, Alabasta and FI, had "doping" substances. FI even considered the Energy Steroids as their national treasure. Both ES and Hero Water takes away from the life of the user. One grants you strength but you'll die in a few minutes while the other makes to old if abused. What if the most potent version is at Mariejois and the national treasure Doffy wants to get his hands on? He needs the Ope-ope fruit's immortal youth to prevent the nasty side-effect or maybe even switch personalities to the next doped vessel
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With the revelation of the Lunarian people and their ability to burst into flames, the Rocks Pirates Jolly Roger has me wondering, was Xebec D. Rocks a member of the Lunarian race? Or did he take an interest in them? The Jolly Roger representing the Rocks Pirates (and Rocks in particular) is that of a red skull that appears to be flaming. Why such imagery? With the knowledge of the Lunarian people and what they could do, that imagery can be interpreted in a curious context, one that see Rocks connected to the Lunarian people. Is this why Rocks was so interested in the secrets of the world and becoming King of it? Because he felt the status his people once held was robbed from them?A Jolly Roger within One Piece is a representation of the crew and in particular, the Captain. The majority of the Jolly Roger’s seen in One Piece all express the appearance or theme of the Captain. The Roger’s Pirates and Whitebeard Pirates Jolly Roger reflect their Captain’s mustache. The Red Hair Pirates Jolly Roger reflects the scar across Shank’s left eye. The Big Mom Pirates and Beast Pirates have a Jolly Roger in the image of their Captains, The Kid, Hawkins, On Air, Bonney, Firetank, Fallen Monk, Spade, Foxy, and Barto Club Pirates Jolly Roger also represents their respective Captain. Even the Thriller Bark, Blackbeard, Heart, Doflamingo, Kuja, Sun, New Fishman, and Beautiful Pirates Jolly Rogers speak to a theme central to their Captains. With the Rocks Pirates, what is their Jolly Roger meant to convey about Rocks?
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Such a connection to an ancient race that conflicted with the Tenryuubito would explain how Rocks possessed the levels of knowledge he had of the Void Century and the secrets of the world. This relation could also come into play with the God Valley incident and why Rocks targeted it. Beyond painting Rocks as an antagonistic character, a connection to the Lunarian people and their history may provide a nuanced portrayal of his character in having justification for his actions but taking his approach too far in reaching the ends he desired. As for the World Government hiding knowledge of the Rocks Pirates and Xebec D. Rocks, it could be in addition to hiding what Rocks did, they also sought to hide what he is i.e. a member of the Lunarian race with the initial D. Rocks being Lunarian may also be how Linlin is familiar with the race when it appears their very presence has been erased from the records of the world – going by Marco’s memories of Whitebeard’s drunken ramblings.The similarities between the skull symbol King wears and the Jolly Roger of the Rocks Pirates also has my interest piqued. Sure King’s skull symbol isn’t flaming but there is a familiarity. Is there meaning behind that? Or nothing at all? Sure if could be nothing but it could also be something. Also want to note that Saldeath and his Blugori also possess skull symbols although that symbol has four teeth. Considering King is a member of the Lunarian race and a subordinate of Kaido, there may exist an intimate connection to Rocks. Is King related to Rocks and as such a member of the D clan too? How did Kaido and King meet? Did there encounter each other on Gods Valley? Does King have a face similar to Magellan's under the mask? Was King experimented on by the Marines? Why did King have a look more of wonder than shock when Momonosuke came flying through the Performance Floor in his Dragon form? There are a lot of mysteries behind King and his story as a member of the Lunarian race.
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So, there's more then one Moon in the OP world, right? If that is true, I wonder if the Sky People (Skypedians/Shandorians/Bilkans) came from the moon Enel went to and then the Lunarians came from another moon?
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Seems there used to be six? But now we're ostensibly down to one, so perhaps there were only two moons at one point.
Seeing as there appear to be 3 types of Sky people, I'm wondering if the same applies to the Lunarians? Three varying devil-like types? Like types grouping together, set against those other" weirdos?
Pretty certain there was a lot of that going down amongst many of the races of the One Piece landscape.
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King's race being able to fly with their wings, plus producing fire does indicate they are different then the Sky Folk. Even if they all came form the Moon, I would have to guess, the Lunarians came from one region, and the proto-Sky Folk came from another, or something.
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@Ghidorah:
In addition to all the other bad stuff I've mentioned before that'll contribute to the good guys' impending defeat, Hawkins is going to finally unveil one of those cards he hinted at earlier in the arc that could boost another's strength to power up some Beast Pirates, perhaps even draw the Fool in a non-reversed position this time to turn people against each other.
Fate is going to seemingly turn on the Strawhats shortly, so only fitting that Hawkins getting lucky with his cards would serve to paint a clear picture as to what's soon to commence.
Addendum:
Another potential way we may see Hawkins help contribute to the good guys downfall: Kidd isn't the last of his voodoo victims; Law is the final one.
I've seen someone speculate that Killer will figure out how to cleverly work around Hakwins' powers by cutting off the arm corresponding to that which Kidd lost, thereby having no effect on Kidd and instead shifting the damage to Hawkins himself. I'm liable to believe that's exactly what could happen. Hard to say what'll happen from that point going forward, but I have a feeling we might see Hawkins shedding Kidd's voodoo doll loose in order to bait Killer or something. Cue Law getting fucked over, likely at a most inopportune moment.
Something like that.
The particulars may vary, but I think Hawkins having a Law strawdoll and Law getting hurt by proxy during the battle with Big Mom has strong chances, considering Hawkins had ample opportunity to do his thing during Law's incarceration at one point. I def don't think Law and Hawkins' feud is done by any means, so this seems a plausible way that'll keep their rivalry going. That, and Law's familiarity with Hawkins' powers may lead him to putting 2 and 2 together and rush off to track down Hawkins out of necessity, leaving Kidd to fend for himself against Big Mom. This hypothetical "betrayal" may in turn may only add further fuel to Kidd's bitterness, and set the stage for what I'm fairly certain is an upcoming backstabbing of his own directed at Luffy and Law at some later point.
On that note, I also highly believe we'll see Luffy doing something to piss Kidd off majorly at some point in the future as well over a disagreement over "fairness." Let's just say I foresee future events echoing those of the past, but with Kaido finding himself in Oden's position.
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My big theory is that the Blackbeard Pirates and Moria might show up at the end of the Wano arc to kill Kaidou. Kaidou is too big a force to just beat up and let be taken to jail, he's been imprisoned and unsuccessfully executed multiple times. And I don't think Luffy, Yamato or Momo have it in themselves to kill him. I think it'd be quite poetic if Blackbeard and Moria steal the kill at the end, Moria will have his revenge and Blackbeard will get a second Yonkou head and his fruit. Blackbeard might then try and kill Luffy to take his fruit and Yamato will single-handedly hold off the Blackbeard Pirates until Luffy's crew provide backup. In that way Yamato will earn his title as Protector just like Oden, the invincible shield of the Strawhats. It'd also be a good way to set up end game pieces by squaring off the Strawhats and the Blackbeard pirates early as a teaser and Blackbeard could drop some ominous words on what happened to Sabo before running away with his crew. As to how the Blackbeard pirates got there? There are multiple ways, either carried by their massive giant, or maybe Aokiji, being a former marine, had intel on the secret route under the island which Laffitte, their flying hypnotist, could have taken advantage of.
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My theory:
Momo will eventually lose control of Onigashima and it will fall but not explode. The town will be all rubber and it will bounce back to the sky - the explosion will be key to defeating Kaido. -
My theory:
Momo will eventually lose control of Onigashima and it will fall but not explode. The town will be all rubber and it will bounce back to the sky - the explosion will be key to defeating Kaido.Not gonna lie, that's a pretty wild theory. It'd have to be a spectacular finisher and that might be it.
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I still hope that Strawhats will speed few months or even longer under Shanks protection on his island. I mean sure right now Oda is speeding up story but it would not hurt to see second timeskip where strawhats prepare for few months for final war or for storming Holy Land. Certainly Luffy can now evenly fight on par with likes of Marco but somehow I cannot see him winning fair fight with Admiral anytime soon.. And him becoming Pirate King and beating Big Mom on his own still seems abstract even with his latest power up. I dont want Luffy to become Pirate King before reaching maturity in power.
Kaido was beaten up and stabbed by several people over last few hours and Luffy thanks to luck got back to fighting him but without plot being in Luffys favor, he would be dead in Katakuri vs Luffy one arc ago. Only now he is reaching that 1st Yonko Commander combat power and there is still much more he needs to learn before he and his crew feel like real Pirate Kings crew.
So timeskip and training with Shanks is what I expect that will happen within story, few months or a year but Luffy needs to be bit grown up not to be called a boy anymore. I only can see him as adult being on top of pirate world.
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I still hope that Strawhats will speed few months or even longer under Shanks protection on his island. I mean sure right now Oda is speeding up story but it would not hurt to see second timeskip where strawhats prepare for few months for final war or for storming Holy Land. Certainly Luffy can now evenly fight on par with likes of Marco but somehow I cannot see him winning fair fight with Admiral anytime soon.. And him becoming Pirate King and beating Big Mom on his own still seems abstract even with his latest power up. I dont want Luffy to become Pirate King before reaching maturity in power.
Kaido was beaten up and stabbed by several people over last few hours and Luffy thanks to luck got back to fighting him but without plot being in Luffys favor, he would be dead in Katakuri vs Luffy one arc ago. Only now he is reaching that 1st Yonko Commander combat power and there is still much more he needs to learn before he and his crew feel like real Pirate Kings crew.
So timeskip and training with Shanks is what I expect that will happen within story, few months or a year but Luffy needs to be bit grown up not to be called a boy anymore. I only can see him as adult being on top of pirate world.
Luffy's improvement has always been exponential, though. As you said, one arc ago he was struggling against a commander, and now he's facing someone levels higher. I agree that it feels odd that a kid with 2 years of experience on the seas has already achieved what others took years to reach, but that's something we have learned to accept since, I'd say, at least Alabasta. To me this suspension of disbelief works pretty well. This isn't a literal story after all.
Also, and more interestingly, I feel like Oda manages to make huge steps when it comes to character development in a very short time, and he works it into the flow of the story seamlessly. The W7/EL conflict brilliantly renewed the Straw Hat crew as a whole. WCI gave us a new Sanji.
I don't agree with Luffy needing to grow up* – however, I'm curious to know why you feel like the crew doesn't feel like a "PK crew". I think their synergy is already on that level. They have elite fighters and exceptional members occupying the other roles. Luffy also has an entire fleet.
I would honestly welcome a "breather arc" like the one you're suggesting, but for different reasons. Lately (although it's been years and years...) the crew itself has been placed in the backseat, yet we can all agree that the straw hats, as a group, are the heart of One Piece. I can barely connect with the other allies, be it the Minks, Samurai, Trafalgar Law or whoever.
In any case, I don't see a training arc as necessary.- Luffy's goal is to be the "most free man on the seas". And who incarnates this kind of freedom better than a child?
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I mean that Luffys crew still feels pretty far away from being able to fight with Yonko commanders. Sure Strawhats have very docent showing right now but with for example Zoro not even knowing he has CoC to him being greatest Swordsman in One Piece it feels like there is really short time for him learning that stuff. It took Luffy way over 2 years to get from having 0 control over his CoC to fully using it so mastering skills and growing in power should imo take more time. Sure Luffy is Prodigy but if he would 1 vs 1 Admiral right now, without anyone weakening him for Luffy.. He would certainly get beaten as it is.
With Katakuri not letting Luffy get into Gear Fourth if they had a rematch, I still think that it would be very difficult fight for Luffy. Katakuri thrown away Mogura when they fought and I see it as extremely dangerous weapon if Luffy does not shield himself with CoC. What I want to say that even with Luffy and other Strawhats growing in power as they are, for example Ussop still does not feel like a match for Van Augur or Yassop, not even close.. They need time to properly grow imo and story is speeding up. Arc where Luffy is training under protection of Shanks, even if only for like half a year, would be breath of fresh air for me.
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Big Mom's troops aren't simply hiding in wait in a book or hanging back at WCI. Similar to what we saw happen with Zeff, BM's probably tasked a number of them with exploiting her vast info network to track and hunt down not just Zeff but many of the Strawhats' close associates. I see a mass-scale…convergence let's call it beginning to take shape following Act 3 and a certain surprise villain turning up.
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Early 2017 Old. Should have posted this when I first joined. Oro J dead, so a small amount of the theories can't be found.
Sanji and The Uzumakis
The first part of this theory will be Sanji’s Kenbunshoku ability’s connection to the Uzumaki Clan’s abilities. This will lead into my theory of Sanji’s special Kenbunshoku haki that maybe unique to him.
The second part will be the connection between the Vinsmokes and the Uzumaki manga by Juji Ito. This will allow me to point out similarities that can possibly highlight the Vinsmoke’s background.
Uzumaki Connection 1 - Uzumaki Clan Ability
While there are those who can sense chakra, the Uzumakis sensed the "feelings and intent" via chakra.
It happened with Kisame after Naruto met his mother and beat Kurama. Naruto could sense Kisame’s killer intent.
Karin from Naruto was an Uzumaki as well. She was a sensory type ninja. She could detect and sense others through their chakra. She was also able to detect their feelings and emotions via their chakra. There was a moment when she could sense Sasuke’s evil intentions, while fighting Danzo. She was in love with Sasuke and could feel his change.
Sanji’s Kenbunshoku Haki Specialty
Sanji has been shown to have decent Kenbunshoku haki. I think that Sanji's Kenbunshoku is like the Uzumaki's sensory type abilities. There have been instances where Sanji has sensed “feelings and intent”. This isn’t a usual CoO ability. CoO is just awareness. Being aware of things without seeing them with your eyes, physically.
We see that Usopp could see auras of Law, Luffy, and Sugar. It was from a ridiculously far distance.
Sanji could seek out Kinemon’s torso in dark sea water.
Movements can be predicted.
So that is standard CoO. What I think Sanji has mastered is being able to sense “feelings and intent”.
It can be killer intent from Katakuri. Katakuri tried to shoot Sanji and got a direct glare in return. You could see Katakuri with his staff being looked at as the perpetrator by Sanji. This is very like Naruto sensing Kisame’s killer intent while hiding he was hiding in Samehada. Most sensor type ninjas couldn’t detect him, but Naruto did. This was because he could feel the killer intent.
Hidden feelings from Viola and Puddin. Viola was hiding her true feelings while attacking Sanji. Sanji could see through the actions and be aware of her feelings. Puddin could carry out evil deeds and Sanji saw her eye, up close, and was able to call it beautiful. This guy who watched his sister get disrespected and harmed, found her beautiful while his life was in danger. I think he also felt her hidden feelings.
Feelings from Tashigi while feeling helpless against Tashigi. From so far away, Sanji sensed Tashigi’s despair. This was a feeling that Tashigi felt strongly about. She was fighting against someone she considered an ally at once.
Puddin, Tashigi, and Viola can also be said to have an analogous situation to Sanji. Doffy, Linlin, and Vergo are people who caused these 3, emotional abuse. Sanji has the same relationship with Judge, who has emotionally harmed him multiple times.
This might or might not be connected to Sanji’s special Kenbunshoku Haki, but Sanji was able to see the goodness in Duval. This has been a theme for Sanji. The philosophy behind Cosmetology is seeing beauty behind the physical and bringing an individual’s beauty out by treating them, physically. Seeing the true feelings behind the physical. This was before time skip, where Sanji’s kicks changed the structure of Duval’s looks. This fixed his issue where he looked like Sanji. That was his root for his hatred for Sanji. Sanji seen through that and “corrected it”. In real life, there’s a saying, “you look good, you feel good”. People usually go to do surgery on themselves or go to cosmetologist to for care. I think that Sanji could see behind Duval’s face, even though he was pissed at the bounty pick, and see someone suffering.
I will go as far as to say that Katakuri covers his mouth for a reason. A reason that is known to almost nobody. This a reoccurring theme among some of Linlin’s children. Cracker had a weakness that isn’t largely known and he revealed it. It is a low tolerance for pain. Puddin hid her third eye. I think that if Sanji fights
Katakuri, this mystery might be uncovered and Sanji will give him the Duval treatment. This would further prove the underlying feelings theme that I’ve been getting at.
The purpose of this ability would go well with 1 of the characteristics of Sanji. That is how considerate he is. He is very considerate from his back story where he took his mother food and tried to learn how to cook, to surviving with Zeff and how Zeff left a great impression on him. The impression was to care for others.
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Uzumaki Connection 2
Uzamaki by Junji ItoI've been reading Uzumaki by Junji Ito recently. It is a great horror manga from the 90s. The spiral patterns in it and the curse in the town is connected. People in the story are obsessed with the spiral patterns all over the city, once they drink the water of Kurozu-cho that is going around. It is everywhere from the sky to the lakes and buildings. The obsession leads them into transforming, and at times, dying. I will go through some moments from this 20-chapter manga, and then state each individual moment’s importance to the Vinsmoke’s possible background.
There was boy who got picked on at school who had the spiral pattern on his back. This pattern grew and he ended up becoming like a snail monster. It is also revealed that many of the snails in town used to be human. The boy was picked on by a bully. This bully was seen drinking water at the school before turning into a snail. They mated and escaped a fence that they were kept in. They left a fluid trail. There were Mollusks everywhere in the hills the snails escaped to. Mollusk are snail children.
The protagonist, Kirie, had spiral patterns in her hair and had to cut it because it kept going wild and causing chaos. It even battled another girl’s hair. It was hard to trim because it would fight back.
The spiral curse has also transformed some of the people. There was a couple that were in love. They ended up transforming. Their bodies started twisting and extending.
There was a character that killed himself due to his obsession with Kirie. He ended up with a spiral spring in his body and bounced around like Bellamy.
Vinsmokes and Germa Army
I think that using these examples, I can answer some mysteries about Germa and the Vinsmokes.
What is Bio Culture Liquid?
The clones are shown to be created in a lab. They are in tubes and surrounded by “bio culture liquid”. I think that clones are like the Mollusk from the Uzumaki manga. The “fluid” possibly comes from the Snails that Germa like to use so often. They use snails to travel. I think the fluid from snails help the growth of the clones. We can see the massive size of the snails when seen carrying the kingdom. I think that some of the snails are also mutated clones. The snail usage in the One Piece world has possibly been due to the Germa. We’ve seen them being used to communicate, record, and travel. I think that Snails are a primary use of Germa’s experiments. The M in “MB”, “MST”, and “MH” might mean Mollusk. The B, ST, and H might pertain to certain character’s DNA that were used for the specific type of soldier.
Transformations and Spiral Pattern of the Vinsmokes
There have been many great theories about Kamen Riders and insects being the basis of any mutation of the Vinsmokes. These are dope, but I think that I can add other possibilities to compliment them.
The Vinsmoke children have been shown to have spiral eye brows. I think when these eye brows extend, they spiral even more and is part of each child’s transformation.
The possibilities of their monster like features and transformations
Hair growing out of control. I think that the Vinsmoke’s hair curl in a spiral pattern. I could see Inazuma attempting to cut Sanji’s hair and having trouble. Inazuma was said to almost be given the crab zoan fruit, but that was changed.
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Bones spiraling and body as well
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Tung spiraling
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Shells and wings
In conclusion
Sanji has a special Kenbunshoku Haki ability to sense feelings and intent. It is very similar to the Uzumaki Clan’s sensory ability. Sanji is said to almost even be named Naruto at one point. His eye brows even spiral like the Uzumaki clan symbol.
The Vinsmoke’s eyebrows might spiral even more then they already do before transforming into snail monster type creatures with insect related abilities.
Germa makes use of their snail’s fluids (bio culture liquid) to help their clone’s growth rate.
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Random thought after a reread. I'm currently in Enis Lobby. Is Monster Point of Chopper the hito hito fruits awakend form? Was Chopper the very first awakend ability shown in the series?
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Random thought after a reread. I'm currently in Enis Lobby. Is Monster Point of Chopper the hito hito fruits awakend form? Was Chopper the very first awakend ability shown in the series?
Kaido better awaken his df sooner rather than later so we may get a closer look at what awakening actually does for Zoans. But yes, I think rumble balls force an awakening.
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Random thought after a reread. I'm currently in Enis Lobby. Is Monster Point of Chopper the hito hito fruits awakend form? Was Chopper the very first awakend ability shown in the series?
Many fans have speculated that Crocodile's fruit was already awakened during the Alabasta arc.
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So I think that Laws Injection Shot attack is actually stab that has only name related to medicine and is in fact stabbing attack infused with Ryuo where he stabs person "injecting Ryuo version of CoA" into the stab. If it would be only his devil fruit power at work it would not go through Kaidos haki when Law stabbed his neck. Law himself said that he cannot move Big Mom and Kaido around with his ability because of their haki.
Also Law created once a haki dome around himself like Admirals did shielding execution platform from Whitebeards quake attack during Marineford, but smaller.
When Fujitira dropped meteorite on Green Bit on Law and Doflamingos head all 3 of them where standing on "Tiny ground islands" while area around them was completely destroyed by blast from meteorite falling.
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Since the world government now has the ability to turn erase ppl's minds and turn them in to obedient cyborgs. So the SSG I assume are gonna be a bunch of guys we thought blew up or forgot about.
Vergo returns as a mind wiped cyborg.
Krieg is gonna comeback in Oda's initial design of him as Krieg-9000.
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One Piece is just a Piece of Musical Composition. A piece of music to unite all races.
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Momo is never gonna make a cloud big enough to take full control of Onigashima. He will however end up with clouds big enough for some ships. The alliance will get crammed onto the sunny and Kidd's ship (along with beast pirate turncoats), while the beast pirate ships will be sent to drift out of Wano.
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The majority of the crew have a deep connection to the void century. On one hand it's like "well duh" but now I'm thinking some crazy episode of destiny and fate will be even more apparent to enrage the masses.
Luffy - The D's
Zoro - Ancestors from Wano, maybe had some hand in helping spread the glyphs?
Nami - Nothin' yet.
Usopp - Nothin' yet.
Sanji - Lunarians(The truth is out there)
Chopper - Nothing yet but I've still got questions for Dr Kureah.
Robin - Ohara of course
Franky - Descendant of ancient weapon shipwrights.
Brook - Hmmmm Bink's Sake/Brew is going to be majorly important some day. Watch it be a song from the void century and a key component to finding Laugh Tale.
Jinbe - Relation to Fish and Mer folk, Noah, Joy Boy and all that.
Yamata - Seems like everything if this is our new mate.I know most of that is some on the surface bull ship and the majority of the crew don't have the slightest care about what went on in the ancient past but still. I just get this feeling the Godly powers that be have conspired to bring these people together for a greater purpose that not a single one of them is even aware of. Not even Robin herself. A cosmic(Oda) fate as it were to finish what the ancients started. Beyond Roger and Joy Boy and the relatively recently deceased mentors.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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The majority of the crew have a deep connection to the void century. On one hand it's like "well duh" but now I'm thinking some crazy episode of destiny and fate will be even more apparent to enrage the masses.
Luffy - The D's
Zoro - Ancestors from Wano, maybe had some hand in helping spread the glyphs?
Nami - Nothin' yet.
Usopp - Nothin' yet.
Sanji - Lunarians(The truth is out there)
Chopper - Nothing yet but I've still got questions for Dr Kureah.
Robin - Ohara of course
Franky - Descendant of ancient weapon shipwrights.
Brook - Hmmmm Bink's Sake/Brew is going to be majorly important some day. Watch it be a song from the void century and a key component to finding Laugh Tale.
Jinbe - Relation to Fish and Mer folk, Noah, Joy Boy and all that.
Yamata - Seems like everything if this is our new mate.I know most of that is some on the surface bull ship and the majority of the crew don't have the slightest care about what went on in the ancient past but still. I just get this feeling the Godly powers that be have conspired to bring these people together for a greater purpose that not a single one of them is even aware of. Not even Robin herself. A cosmic(Oda) fate as it were to finish what the ancients started. Beyond Roger and Joy Boy and the relatively recently deceased mentors.
I'm still waiting for a revelation about Nami's heritage. Since we found out she was adopted by Bellemere I always thought that Nami would be a lost princess of some wealtht kingdom, but strangely that was reserved for Sanji and Vivi.
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When was it even hinted Franky was a descendant of shipwrights?
His parents were said to be pirates.
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Watch Nami's weather sensitivity come from some ancient people said to be deities in long lost age.
@Zik:
When was it even hinted Franky was a descendant of shipwrights?
His parents were said to be pirates.
Descendant might not be the word but the non-biological lineage is absolutely there. Didn't Tom or some CP agent describe the Pluton blue prints as something that was passed down from Shipwright to apprentice for hundreds of years?
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Watch Nami's weather sensitivity come from some ancient people said to be deities in long lost age.
Descendant might not be the word but the non-biological lineage is absolutely there. Didn't Tom or some CP agent describe the Pluton blue prints as something that was passed down from Shipwright to apprentice for hundreds of years?
Oh yes, that. You're right there but that was more about shipwrights knowing better to let those plans be known or even making the weapon cuz it was so destructive or as I think Iceberg said just in case somebody else found one of the other ancient weapons they might be needed to actually make it in terms of balance.
It was more like a secret order keeping a big secret for centuries.
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Shanks has 2 more members of his crew.
Secret Member Mihawk
Unofficial Member Buggy.Now the Red Haired Pirates are the most balanced crew.
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Minks control electricity
Fishmen control water
Lunarians control flames
We clearly miss one raceAnd all those races are feared by the WG
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Minks control electricity
Fishmen control water
Lunarians control flames
We clearly miss one raceAnd all those races are feared by the WG
Even though electricity is usually associated with the element of air, we already know that it's the Wanoese who control air, see Kin'emon's ability to talk with his farts. There is no greater wind mastery.
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Minks control electricity
Fishmen control water
Lunarians control flames
We clearly miss one raceAnd all those races are feared by the WG
There's still earth and air.
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The majority of the crew have a deep connection to the void century. On one hand it's like "well duh" but now I'm thinking some crazy episode of destiny and fate will be even more apparent to enrage the masses.
Luffy - The D's
Zoro - Ancestors from Wano, maybe had some hand in helping spread the glyphs?
Nami - Nothin' yet.
Usopp - Nothin' yet.
Sanji - Lunarians(The truth is out there)
Chopper - Nothing yet but I've still got questions for Dr Kureah.
Robin - Ohara of course
Franky - Descendant of ancient weapon shipwrights.
Brook - Hmmmm Bink's Sake/Brew is going to be majorly important some day. Watch it be a song from the void century and a key component to finding Laugh Tale.
Jinbe - Relation to Fish and Mer folk, Noah, Joy Boy and all that.
Yamata - Seems like everything if this is our new mate.I know most of that is some on the surface bull ship and the majority of the crew don't have the slightest care about what went on in the ancient past but still. I just get this feeling the Godly powers that be have conspired to bring these people together for a greater purpose that not a single one of them is even aware of. Not even Robin herself. A cosmic(Oda) fate as it were to finish what the ancients started. Beyond Roger and Joy Boy and the relatively recently deceased mentors.
Yamato seems more connected to the Joy Boy plotline than Jinbe honestly.
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Chopper will modify the Ice Oni virus and integrate it into an upgraded Rumble Ball to become an Abominable Snowman.
