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      BM not having any scars is absolutely an indication of her strength, c'mon now. And the idea that she covers them up, or that she's the type of person to run away from fights makes no sense with the character we know Big Mom to be. You don't become a Yonko without getting into real fights. There's no shame in having a scar like other characters do, nonetheless it's notable that no one has truly maimed Big Mom throughout her career as a pirate.

      Your examples for Shanks are poor too because the Sea King thing only happened because of an editor, whereas Blackbeard has always been strong and inflicted that scar even when Shanks was alert. Also was he even a Yonko when that happened?

      BM is always pregnant, that could explain her absence from serious fights. Luffy is currently a Yonkou but there are a lot of people who are stronger than him. A Yonkou is much more than an individual's powers and abilities: the pirate crews total power and allies are considered.

      Akainu's home island! Beautiful, isn't it?

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        Bm got the soul soul fruit. It's pretty clear to me.
        it's the same shit for Luffy. After katakuri's fight, we know why Luffy got the gomu gomu no mi

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          Literally nothing we have seen from Big Mom over the course of Totland and Wano indicates that she is anything less than a monstrous physical powerhouse perfectly willing and capable of brawling with the best of them.

          Linlin's not scarred because she's just that damn tough, not because she's sitting on the sidelines letting her kids do the heavy lifting.

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            @FleetAdmiralAkainu:

            WB didn't die naturally, he was killed. Kaidou has failed to kill himself in every way imaginable.

            We saw him drop from a high place. We didn't see him try to drown himself or swallow poison. That's really little to say he has try every imaginable way to kill himself.

            Kaidou has a mythical zoan DF (I spoiled myself on this bit of information when I watched a fanmade Kaidou fight), I don't think old Kaidou recently acquired his power nor status as Yonkou. His Yonkou status was well known since Water 7.

            I said he might have been weaker than Whitebeard(or equal) not that he was not a yonko. He has a mystical Whitebeard had a power that could suppodely destroy the world. Each yonko gets a lot of hype and we don't know how they rank compared to each other.

            WB was stated as the only man who ever fought Roger to a draw. I have a feeling that Kaidou will be killed by Luffy and used as evidence by fans like me to separate Luffy from the other Yonkou. Luffy –- the only man who can kill Kaidou. WB failed, Shanks failed, BM failed.

            By the same measure it could be said he failed to kill the other yonkos. To fail they would have had to try. They can defeat him without killing him that happens with the strawhats all the time. If anything he is one of the yonko that we know to have actually lost.

            We do not know how close the yonko were in strength or rank. It is premature to declare Kaido is the strongest to have ever been. For all we know Oda consider them all equals.

            BM either backs down from real fights or she covers her scars with makeup. Either way her not having any scars doesn't mean she's strong.

            We saw her in raids and she was in a crew with Kaido so they have both seen their share of battles. Not having scars means not taking damage during those fights. Also nothing from Big Mom points to her fearing fighting. She asked Dogtooth to not to protect her at the wedding and is coming herself to deal with Luffy despite threats from Kaido.

            Shanks has a scar on his face, Blackbeard gave him that scar. If I apply your logic, BB and a Seaking were stronger than a Yonkou because they could leave a scar on his body.

            It means that the difference was small enough that they could cause damage. He got better in 12 years.

            We don't know the circumstance of those defeats. Kaidou may have chosen to lose. What matters is Kaidou doesn't have the ultimate defeat: death.

            Exactly. We don't know the circumstances of his defeats or to whom he lost. So it is premature to declare Kaido as the strongest to ever been.

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                Whitebread could sink Wano without even being in the same timezone.

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                  Maybe prime WB was stronger then kaidou, but this old WB was sick, he was gonna lose against any other yonkou.

                  But with the ''animal kingdom'' theme, I think oda talks about non human creatures and races when he mentions kaidou's title.

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                    @FleetAdmiralAkainu:

                    BM is always pregnant, that could explain her absence from serious fights.

                    Unlikely considering she is currently not married to any man.

                    Luffy is currently a Yonkou but there are a lot of people who are stronger than him.

                    That was just Fake News from Morgans.

                    A Yonkou is much more than an individual's powers and abilities: the pirate crews total power and allies are considered.

                    I agree with that at least.

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                      DRAGON'S POSSIBLE FRUIT I want to speak on Dragon. Dragon's abilities have been discussed for a long time. His abilities are so various in theory, that the community has yet to pinpoint exactly what it is. I feel that I could be way off, just as much as any other theory, but if Dragon does have a DF, and not something that Oda has yet to introduce, it has to meet 2 requirements.

                      • The first thing is that it has to be on a major level. In my opinion, most devil fruit abilities aren't too far in power away from each other. When it comes to those abilities, it is more based on the user to me. There are many DF abilities that are leagues and miles above others.

                      Like WB, Marco, Akainu, and Teach. They have fruits that are very special in a way that fits the character. Dragon has mentioned the flow/current of destiny when it comes to Luffy. It seems like he feels that if things are meant to be and flow a certain way, then nothing should be in it's way. This is probably why he's a Revolutionary and even would intervine with Smoker vs Luffy. He probably saw Smoker getting in the way of Luffy's storm.

                      -The second requirement is that it has to be able to do everything that we have been shown that Dragon can possibly do in theory. Dragon has shown many weather related abilities.

                      I think that Dragon is a Paramecia type user that uses the Current Current fruit. Currents are responsible for many weather related activities. There are electric currents, air currents, and ocean currents, etc. This fruit is very weather related and can effect things on a major scale. It can create Knock Up Streams, affect the Tarai Current, even create White Strom. White Strom is also called White Dragon. The amount of influence that Dragon can have, if this is true, can answer a lot. This could answer to why Baltigo is hidden and how Sabo was saved. Baltigo was possibly made by Dragon with the currents to lift the seafloor in the middle of an unknown sea, which isn't governed or paid attention to. With the possibilities and capabilities of currents, this ability can do the impossible. Affecting the Calm Belt wouldn't be out of the question. Dragon could make Baltigo bounce up and down all over the Florian triangle without leaving it. Now the Sabo rescue wasn't fully shown. Maybe the air currents were being used there. I would love to get your own theories on that if you can think of something that has to do with currents.

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                        Someone has come up with the theory that The Giant Tree on Elbaf shown on Page 16 of chapter 865 is the Treasure Tree Adam and the Shadow on Page 4 of Chapter 866 is the Sunlight Tree Eve which is why it doesn't appear to be completely solid right? Either that or there is a very good reason why it couldn't be i can't be the first. Also it seems likely that Raftel could be at the top as most images show what appears to be fog but could be clouds seems like there is nothing that is completely confirmed as being sea around it from what i've seen.

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                          @desa:

                          We saw him drop from a high place. We didn't see him try to drown himself or swallow poison. That's really little to say he has try every imaginable way to kill himself.

                          Ok, you do make a good point. He has attempted many suicide methods. I think we can all agree that drowning is a killer that not even the future PK Luffy can survive.

                          I said he might have been weaker than Whitebeard(or equal) not that he was not a yonko. He has a mystical Whitebeard had a power that could suppodely destroy the world. Each yonko gets a lot of hype and we don't know how they rank compared to each other.

                          Kaidou is an old pirate, how much stronger can he become in his old age? If anything, he has gotten weaker over 2 years.

                          By the same measure it could be said he failed to kill the other yonkos. To fail they would have had to try. They can defeat him without killing him that happens with the strawhats all the time. If anything he is one of the yonko that we know to have actually lost.

                          WB was semi-retired. He was sick for years before he was forced to fight Marine HQ, where he lost a war and his life. I don't think WB is the type who seeks fights. Kaidou does what he feels like doing and has tried to fight WB before, only Shanks' interference stopped him engaging the WB pirates.

                          I think you are underestimating how strong Kaidou is. Maybe Kaidou has already fought WB and drew against him or even defeated him. WB's draw against Roger doesn't mean he has never lost against anybody else.

                          We do not know how close the yonko were in strength or rank. It is premature to declare Kaido is the strongest to have ever been. For all we know Oda consider them all equals.

                          That is possible.

                          We saw her in raids and she was in a crew with Kaido so they have both seen their share of battles. Not having scars means not taking damage during those fights. Also nothing from Big Mom points to her fearing fighting. She asked Dogtooth to not to protect her at the wedding and is coming herself to deal with Luffy despite threats from Kaido.

                          I have already proven that a weaker person can inflict scars on a stronger person, Shanks vs BB or Shanks vs Seaking. And I have given at least one good reason for why BM was absent in major wars against the strongest fighters.

                          It means that the difference was small enough that they could cause damage. He got better in 12 years.

                          Ok, that sounds like a good argument.

                          Exactly. We don't know the circumstances of his defeats or to whom he lost. So it is premature to declare Kaido as the strongest to ever been.

                          I can declare him the strongest revealed to us thus far.

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                          Unlikely considering she is currently not married to any man. That was just Fake News from Morgans.
                          I agree with that at least.

                          So is it canon that BM must be married to be pregnant?

                          Her not being pregnant doesn't disprove the fact that BM has produced a lot of kids. Women are weaker when they are pregnant and avoid big fights. Is BM different?

                          Fake news that Luffy is the 5th Emperor? Does that not damage the credibility of Yonkou strength?

                          Akainu's home island! Beautiful, isn't it?

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                            WB was semi-retired. He was sick for years before he was forced to fight Marine HQ, where he lost a war and his life. I don't think WB is the type who seeks fights. Kaidou does what he feels like doing and has tried to fight WB before, only Shanks' interference stopped him engaging the WB pirates.
                            I think you are underestimating how strong Kaidou is. Maybe Kaidou has already fought WB and drew against him or even defeated him. WB's draw against Roger doesn't mean he has never lost against anybody else.

                            It does at least mean he has not lost against any of the Yonkou, at least not a loss that would be ultimate, since otherwise his position and the things that are said of him would not make much sense.
                            WB was the key to keep the seas calm after Roger´s demise, he was the guy who held Kaidou and Big Mom back (of course the Marines building up their forces to create a balance and match the Yonkou together also did that), and the one whose name is pretty much the title of the past-Roger era.
                            BM singled him out, so did Shanks, so did Doflamingo, who, at least by his words, took the reign of these monsters after the MF war, only that he did that by pretty much starting an arms race, which at one point was bound to explode anyway.
                            If Kaidou had already beaten him, none of this would make sense.

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                              @FleetAdmiralAkainu:

                              So is it canon that BM must be married to be pregnant?

                              Apparently, yes. As you know, Linlin kicked out Pound by the time Lola and Chiffon were born. If her supossed husband exists, he would still be around until her child is born.

                              Fake news that Luffy is the 5th Emperor? Does that not damage the credibility of Yonkou strength?

                              It does. Do you really think Morgans cares about their credibility?

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                                This reminds me alot of that oh so classic Zoro >> Luffy pitch. Like i get that what ifs can be amusing, but it is hard to take any such notion serious when it runs counter to what is put in print in the manga.

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                                  @KageKageKing:

                                  Apparently, yes. As you know, Linlin kicked out Pound by the time Lola and Chiffon were born. If her supossed husband exists, he would still be around until her child is born.

                                  I don't know because at some point over the past couple of years I decided to stop reading. There is currently a huge gap in OP knowledge so for now I will assume you are right.

                                  It does. Do you really think Morgans cares about their credibility?

                                  Probably not.

                                  Akainu's home island! Beautiful, isn't it?

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                                    Given that Kaido has been repeatedly captured and many people made an attempt to kill him and yet every method tried failed and Kaido eventually burst out of holding…

                                    The implication is that Kaido is not impossible to defeat at all. Rather, knocking him out, running him out of stamina, locking him in sea stone chains-- all those things are perfectly possible to do and people have done it in the past.
                                    But the key is that he is effectively indestructible-- all methods that people have previously tried have failed.

                                    So he is beatable, but not killable. Which means he was always able to eventually break his way back out.

                                    Whitebeard we can only say lost to Gol D Roger up until Marineford. He was extremely strong, but he was far from indestructible like Kaido.

                                    Once he did finally lose, he died.

                                    So far from that one should bet on Kaido in a short-term fight, against any serious powerhouse it seems likely that one should not really expect Kaido to come out on top. To have been captured so many times, he must have lost to people who were not the absolute strongest individual in the world.
                                    But in the long term, since he is impossible to 100% fully defeat and will always return to full strength before long, he is always going to eventually overcome any opponent.

                                    And though he defeated all the Supernova-- if it was generally the way he defeated Luffy, then he might be able to put out a lot of power in a short burst that can overcome reckless opponents-- but perhaps he has poor stamina and that's how people have previously overcome him.

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                                      @Solgarde:

                                      Given that Kaido has been repeatedly captured and many people made an attempt to kill him and yet every method tried failed and Kaido eventually burst out of holding…

                                      The implication is that Kaido is not impossible to defeat at all. Rather, knocking him out, running him out of stamina, locking him in sea stone chains-- all those things are perfectly possible to do and people have done it in the past.
                                      But the key is that he is effectively indestructible-- all methods that people have previously tried have failed.

                                      So he is beatable, but not killable. Which means he was always able to eventually break his way back out.

                                      Whitebeard we can only say lost to Gol D Roger up until Marineford. He was extremely strong, but he was far from indestructible like Kaido.

                                      Once he did finally lose, he died.

                                      So far from that one should bet on Kaido in a short-term fight, against any serious powerhouse it seems likely that one should not really expect Kaido to come out on top. To have been captured so many times, he must have lost to people who were not the absolute strongest individual in the world.
                                      But in the long term, since he is impossible to 100% fully defeat and will always return to full strength before long, he is always going to eventually overcome any opponent.

                                      And though he defeated all the Supernova– if it was generally the way he defeated Luffy, then he might be able to put out a lot of power in a short burst that can overcome reckless opponents-- but perhaps he has poor stamina and that's how people have previously overcome him.

                                      Not even that happened i think.

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                                        @Solgarde:

                                        The implication is that Kaido is not impossible to defeat at all. Rather, knocking him out, running him out of stamina, locking him in sea stone chains– all those things are perfectly possible to do and people have done it in the past.
                                        But the key is that he is effectively indestructible-- all methods that people have previously tried have failed.

                                        So he is beatable, but not killable. Which means he was always able to eventually break his way back out.

                                        Of course he is. The key is the number of participants in the fight. If Kaido is outnumbered, he can be beaten and actually has been beaten all along. But not, if it's one-on-one. Then he will always win. That's his introduction.

                                        Actually quite clear, isn't it? 😉

                                        Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. ![](images/smilies/ipb/wink.png "Wink")

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                                          Funniest part is that the Whitebread who mopped the floor with everyone was a sick old man who was literally on life support. He was stomping out admirals and warlords while everyone is noting that he has gotten much slower and weaker due to old age. He clearly ain't wrong when he calls anyone younger than Garp a punk kid

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                                            @wolfwood:

                                            Funniest part is that the Whitebread who mopped the floor with everyone was a sick old man who was literally on life support. He was stomping out admirals and warlords while everyone is noting that he has gotten much slower and weaker due to old age. He clearly ain't wrong when he calls anyone younger than Garp a punk kid

                                            We can argue that Kaidou has a similar problem: he is invincible and couldn't be defeated in his old age. Nothing anybody threw at him could kill him no matter how incapacitated he is, which is clearly a lot more than you can say about WB. A far greater power than swords, cannon balls and explosions is needed to scratch him let alone kill him. He has never been more depressed. He's so strong that there are people who feel pain for him and describe what it's like because he doesn't understand that sense.

                                            Akainu's home island! Beautiful, isn't it?

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                                              Kaido doesn't seem that old. I'd presume that he's like in his 50's at most.

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                                                @Solgarde:

                                                Given that Kaido has been repeatedly captured and many people made an attempt to kill him and yet every method tried failed and Kaido eventually burst out of holding…

                                                The implication is that Kaido is not impossible to defeat at all. Rather, knocking him out, running him out of stamina, locking him in sea stone chains-- all those things are perfectly possible to do and people have done it in the past.
                                                But the key is that he is effectively indestructible-- all methods that people have previously tried have failed.

                                                This sounds about right on one condition: if Kaidou was trying. Maybe he knew he couldn't die and wasn't fighting for his life like the people who fought him.

                                                So he is beatable, but not killable. Which means he was always able to eventually break his way back out.

                                                Whitebeard we can only say lost to Gol D Roger up until Marineford. He was extremely strong, but he was far from indestructible like Kaido.

                                                Once he did finally lose, he died.

                                                WB didn't lose against Roger.

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                                                Of course he is. The key is the number of participants in the fight. If Kaido is outnumbered, he can be beaten and actually has been beaten all along. But not, if it's one-on-one. Then he will always win. That's his introduction.

                                                Actually quite clear, isn't it? 😉

                                                I didn't know this.

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                                                  Theory

                                                  I want to expand on Devil Fruit abilities and why those with the abilities are possibly in for some bad news. I think that there is something more to Seastone, haki, and Teach's Darkness abilities that is being let on. The basis for these disruptions to Devil Fruit abilities will possibly be exposed. I am trying to prove that there is going to be an appearance in the future of those who can disrupt Devil Fruit abilities without the means of the things listed. I will use examples from the manga and real life studies to prove this.

                                                  Hypothesis

                                                  My idea is that Seastone, haki, and the darkness fruit, all vibrate on the same frequency. Vibrating on this frequency can be the key to disrupting Devil Fruit abilities. This can be due to the soul of the fruits existing on another plain. A plain that can't be visited, unless on the right frequency.

                                                  Manga Examples

                                                  I think that Seastone is a substance that resonates on the same frequency as the darkness abilities from Teach and haki. It has been stated that Seastone and the sea itself gives off a common wavelength by Smoker. I think that same frequency is shared with the Darkness Fruit's abilities. That can possibly be why Teach doesn't have a fluid like form. The ability negates itself. By having the ability to turn off other's abilities with touch, maybe it turns off that part of his ability. If Teach can operate on that frequency, he possibly used his darkness ability to lead the soul of the Gura Gura fruit into him. The cloth has a role as well. Maybe that cloth vibrates at the same frequency and is used to keep the soul from leaving. Burgess was shown with a cloth, when going after Luffy. That cloth is implied to be part of stealing abilities. At the same time, haki possibly provides a limited access to this plain. Those that use CoA, have shown that they can tamper with some with DF abilities to an extent.

                                                  Zoro has faced many DF ability users and has defeated 2 of them with a haki less based attack. When Zoro fought Daz Bones, he pondered on the notion that everything has life to it. More specific, everything has a "breath". I think that Zoro was able to pick up on the frequency of the Devil Fruit. Picking up on it's breath or frequency allowed for him to be on equal footing with Daz. Being on the same frequency allowed him to cut through Daz's steel and reach him. On to the next opponent. Many of us remember when Tashigi mentioned that Zoro didn't use haki to disrupt Monet's ability. I think that the same method was applied here. The Great Dragon Shock was able to move on the same frequency as the ability, if i'm right. I know that it is filler, but the anime had a filter during the Zoro and Monet scene that can possibly be hinting at that plain as well. I want to also point out that in both instances, Zoro used Ittoryu Style.

                                                  Chopper has been shown to be able to access other forms that most Zoan users can't. It is said that he was able to tap into the frequency or wavelength of his fruit. If this is true, what is stopping Chopper from being able to disrupt other's frequency? With this method, Chopper can possibly tamper with other Zoan user's abilities. Making them switch in and out of forms that they didn't want to. He can even help his nakama with their fruit abilities.

                                                  It is commonly theorized that Vegapunk has figured out Devil Fruits, among many other things. I think that he found this frequency as well. Then, was allowed to gain access to this plain and lead the souls of Devil Fruits into objects. Maybe using devices that can vibrate at the right frequency, the soul would be forced into an object.

                                                  Real Life and Manga

                                                  In May of 2000, scientist studied a black hole binary system. It is said that:
                                                  "If you converted the x-ray oscillations from J1550 into sound waves it would feel like a low, rumbling hum," says Dr. Stefan Dieters, an astronomer at the NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center. "It's the sort of sound you feel in your chest from a very large bass speaker at a rock-and-roll concert. The dominant frequency component is around 0.3 Hz – that's too low for the human ear to hear -- but its spectrum contains frequencies all the way up to 20 or 30 Hz, which is near the lower limit of human hearing."
                                                  I show you this, to say that Brook's Humming Style might have been the reason why he's been able to gain access to the soul of his fruit. It is far fetched, but that "rumbling hum" just screams Rumbar Pirates and Humming Swordsman. Maybe Brook's music can vibrate into the right frequency and give him access to that plain. I will provide a link to the 2 articles relating to black holes and sound.

                                                  Conclusion
                                                  In conclusion, vibrating at a frequency, that grants the individual access to this plain where the fruit can be tampered with is my final result. I want to state that we might be in for a big surprise, if there are those who use this already. It was like that for awakening and haki. We found out that those in Marines, Vice Admiral and above use haki, while there some who have awakened their DF abilities. I think that it might even take some real concentration for someone to pull this off. Haki causes fatigue and exhaustion, while this might require concentration.
                                                  I want to add a point that wasn't expanded on or included because I felt that it was a reach. The ability to hear the Voices Of All Things can possibly be related to this. In the anime (non canon) there was a art choice of filter provided when Momo and Luffy heard Zou. It is similar to when Zoro cut Monet. Maybe this ability deals with letting others who usually can't be heard, be heard by those who possibly in another life created these barriers. Possibly those of the D. clan and the ancient weapons are connected to why only some can communicate or order these creatures.

                                                  https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast15may_1m https://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/universe/black_hole_sound.html

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                                                    Hey I like it! Gives Devil Fruits a logical and ghostly scientific explanation that I imagine is awaiting us upon meeting Vegapunk.

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                                                      Do you guys think that it's too late for more essential groups to be introduced in the story? Doffy talked about the Supernova, Warlords, Marines, Revs, and Yonkos. I believe that in relation to the story as a whole, there's more. I think that the Royals like the ones to attend the Reverie, the Research team, and the Underworld, all have a major part in the story that maybe highlighted later. The Royals are already prevalent in the story, but I think there's more to come when we get to the Reverie. I believe that there connections to the Underworld and certain members of the Research Team will be exposed to us.

                                                      Adventuring through this world, the SH crew might have to stand up to others who might not be pirates or marines. I think the mastermind behind the Liquor Iron Ore metal that Dragon mentioned is one of them. I think the SH and the Rev Army's interest will be the same more as the story goes along. Also to go through avenues that aren't directly pirate related because they are supposed to be better prepared than Roger's crew at EOS. What Rayleigh said about his crew and Ohara being "a little too hasty" (official non colored) and "tried to go too fast" (official colored). Either way, they mean the same thing. I believe that Roger's crew were the most successful and ideal crew yet and after they reached Raftel, there was more to whatever the true history was and possibly implored. We see the SH crew encourage and liberate others. The history might tell a story that relates to an upcoming or possibly current issue. History is documented so we learn from it. I think that the Royals, Research team, and the Underworld will heavily relate to the future of this or any future voyage.

                                                      Why the Research Team might be crucial.

                                                      I think the "marines" (there weren't marines back then, but I believe that there are people who fought under the CD's guise) from the ancient kingdom that were possibly under the CDs, fought along the D against something. I get that sense because some marines and pirates get along so well. Maybe before that, the D. clan didn't get along, but they came together to handle something greater than them. I also feel the research team, those like Judge and Vegapunk, have an understanding of what this greater force is. Possibly even the Gorosei. This would explain why they don't want the D to be out there because they possibly attract that type of thing. The issue with this speculation would be that Garp and Saul weren't an issue until Saul got in the way and Garp's grandkids started the pirate shit. Back to how Vegapunk and Judge have been connected to many science related discoveries that help in battle. The clones, more bigger than usual creatures, and his kids are some of the advances of Judge. The seastone on weapons and ships, inanimate objects taking in DF, Pacifista, and even the lineage factor with Judge.

                                                      Why the Underworld might have a great impact

                                                      Speaking of the Underworld. The silhouettes made it seem like there were 10 of them.I think the Underworld might have 4 true Emperors. The same 4 out of 10 that didn't show up to the wedding. I think those 4 are the real major entities in the Underworld. We've seen a loan shark, possible head of a chain of prostitution ring, media titan, a shipping king, smuggler, and a executioner/undertaker. All those are great services, but I believe that the fact that the other 4 didn't show up, meant a lot. Remember that not showing up is an offense. Jinbei talked about them being there and they are no where to be found. Buggy's Merc service and the Vinsmokes seem like they thrive in that world. They are the emperors, so I think that last 4 from the silhouette might be huge in the story. They might supply weapons, rare objects that are lucrative, or an extraordinary service that helps sustain pirates and the WG.

                                                      There are many possible connections between the Royals, CDs and the Underworld and Research Team. Is Wapol a Royal along with an Underworld boss? Are there Royals that masquerade as Underworld emperors? Doffy was the ruler of Dressrosa in the light, but Joker the Underworld broker in the shadows. I'm interested in the Royals bickering and throwing each other's dirty laundry in the light at the Reverie.

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                                                        I've just had this thought: What if Im's butterflies symbolize the butterfly effect? Maybe IM is someone that thinks any sort of change is evil because the tiniest change can have unpredictable consequences, and that's why the WG has been keeping the world in stasis for so long.

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                                                          I think Usopp can possibly be related to a certain clan in Wano. Not by blood, but by being a marksman/sniper/archer. Most of this stems from the Kozuki clan and that cover page with Usopp and the Tengu. From there, I think about Konoha from Naruto. Konoha had Kekkei Genkai clans and special clans as well.

                                                          • Kekkei Genkai - Uchiha, Hyuga, etc

                                                          • Special Clans - Sarutobi, Nara, Senju, Aburame, Akimichi, Inuzuka, etc

                                                          If this is true, Wano could possibly have clans with specialties or even other races with specialties like the Kozuki that can write on Poneglyphs. If there were other races, why would the world not be aware of them tho? The auction list didn't list any Tengu clan. Wano is an isolated contry, as stated by the retainers, so it's closed to the outside world. I would like to hear others perspectives and thought on possible clans for Wano. If you disagree, I would like to know why.

                                                          There were hints at different types of warriors like Ninja, archery, etc. I'm not saying that there will definitely be Kekkei Genkai and stuff. Just the structure of having different races and special families that you can't find in other places. The clans of Konoha were almost exclusive to Konoha. I'm not implying for Oda to copy and paste, it's just the structure. Totland kind of has that similar structure, but the races there weren't exclusive. In my prediction, Wano might have races and specialist exclusive and only known to them.

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                                                            I think Blackbeard's bounty is 2 billion 2 hundrred thoudand becuase his birthday is 22nd.

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                                                              I think Blackbeard's bounty is 2 billion 2 hundrred thoudand becuase his birthday is 22nd.

                                                              If I recall, someone ran the math and said that Blackbeard's bounty is roughly what the reward for the real-world Blackbeard (100 pounds, I think) would equate to in today's money, after being adjusted for inflation and converted to yen.

                                                              More likely, his birthday is a reference to THAT piece of trivia, not the other way around.

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                                                                Considering his bounty is not exactly 2.2 billion then yeah, no real reason to be based on his birthday.

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                                                                  @otakufan:

                                                                  If I recall, someone ran the math and said that Blackbeard's bounty is roughly what the reward for the real-world Blackbeard (100 pounds, I think) would equate to in today's money, after being adjusted for inflation and converted to yen.

                                                                  More likely, his birthday is a reference to THAT piece of trivia, not the other way around.

                                                                  Estimated bounty, inflation, Yen currency of any given day.. You can fit that theory literally on any set of number, I can't buy it.

                                                                  Ah I meant the deathday of real Blackbeard, November 22nd of 1718, chapter 925 containing Kurohige's bounty was released on its 300th anniversary.

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                                                                  Considering his bounty is not exactly 2.2 billion then yeah, no real reason to be based on his birthday.

                                                                  His bounty is 22 Oku(億) berri, it's the same whole number as 22nd. 4670 Man(万) can be a random follow-up.

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                                                                    Estimated bounty, inflation, Yen currency of any given day.. You can fit that theory literally on any set of number, I can't buy it.

                                                                    Ah I meant the deathday of real Blackbeard, November 22nd of 1718, chapter 925 containing Kurohige's bounty was released on its 300th anniversary.

                                                                    His bounty is 22 Oku(億) berri, it's the same whole number as 22nd. 4670 Man(万) can be a random follow-up.

                                                                    Take from it what you will…

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                                                                      Welcome, nakama, to another theory. In this theory I want to speak on the possibility of there being a feathered race.

                                                                      We know of the Fishmen, Minks, Merfolk, Giants, Dwarves, Snakeneck, etc. There are many that I think Oda will possibly reveal in the future. The race that I want to speak on is the feathered race.

                                                                      1 Proposed characters

                                                                      2 Abilities of the race

                                                                      Proposed Characters
                                                                      We’ve been introduced to Morgans. He is 1 of the recently revealed leaders of the Underworld. From the first look, he looks like a bird to me. I don’t think that he has this appearance because of a devil fruit. Those with Zoan type fruits, move around with either their normal form or their hybrid form. Chopper is the only known character that has a zoan type fruit, that utilizes his hybrid form mostly. So, for a character to use their transformed state casually, I highly doubt it.

                                                                      Laffitte is a character that we know little to nothing about, but I think that he is too a member of the feathered race.

                                                                      Abilities
                                                                      Now, when it comes to these characters, there is much that I purposely left out. I did that because those explanations belong in this section. Now many races have been shown to have more than human abilities. Giants have strength, Merfolk and Fishmen can communicate with fish, Minks can possibly transform when there's a full moon and use electro, and I think that there are a few abilities of those of the feathered race.

                                                                      First, I want to mention that I think that like Fishmen and Merfolk, there might be those that resemble humans and those that resemble a more bird like appearance. I would put Laffitte under the more human like appearance. I bring this up because I think those like Laffitte have the ability to bring out and put away their wings. I haven’t seen any of the 3 races from the Moon do this, so I put Laffitte here. Maybe this explains why there are moments when he has his wings out and moments when he doesn’t. Another ability that I think those of the feathered race possess is the ability to communicate with other feathered creatures. Morgans possibly uses the news coo as workers.

                                                                      Cocky’s Advocate
                                                                      I want to introduce a new section that I felt was healthy for my theories. This section basically gives an argument against my idea. I feel that sometimes, many of us get ahead of ourselves and can’t see the bigger picture. With that being said, I think that it is dope to have a second perspective or play Devil’s Advocate.

                                                                      Laffitte might just have a Devil Fruit Ability that grants him those wings. Laffitte could also be a mix or one of the 3 Moon races. Morgans might not have anything to do with the News Coo. There is also the fact that they weren’t listed on the slave list.

                                                                      Conclusion

                                                                      • Morgans and Laffitte are members of a feathered race

                                                                      • They can communicate with feathered creatures and some can make their wings appear or disappear

                                                                      • There are two types of the feathered race, the ones that resemble birds more and the ones that look more human like and can bring out their wings.

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                                                                        Take from it what you will…

                                                                        I see the problems more clearly now.

                                                                        1. Did some research and no where does it state that Blackbeard's bounty was 100 pounds
                                                                        2. You gotta have Oda had used that specific site for it to work
                                                                        3. 'sometime in 2016' is way too vague, according to today's currency rate of USD - Yen (108.88) (why is it even in USD?) it's already 2,163,445
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                                                                          I see the problems more clearly now.

                                                                          1. Did some research and no where does it state that Blackbeard's bounty was 100 pounds

                                                                          https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Edward_Teach#Death

                                                                          1. You gotta have Oda had used that specific site for it to work

                                                                          Would it be that hard? You can do this sort of calculations using a computer

                                                                          1. 'sometime in 2016' is way too vague, according to today's currency rate of USD - Yen (108.88) (why is it even in USD?) it's already 2,163,445

                                                                          Which is not that far from the mark? Oda could have researched in 2016 and kept the number.

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                                                                              https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Edward_Teach#Death

                                                                              touché. Good find. Would have been on the mark if it is converted from 1718 like the site says.

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                                                                                Welcome, nakama, to another theory. In this theory I want to speak on the possibility of there being a feathered race.

                                                                                We know of the Fishmen, Minks, Merfolk, Giants, Dwarves, Snakeneck, etc. There are many that I think Oda will possibly reveal in the future. The race that I want to speak on is the feathered race.

                                                                                I agree, and would like to add a type of Demon race to that. Freakers like Magellan, Moria and Bartolomeo come to mind. Possibly also Saldeath and Hannyabal and a few others. It's those horns, man. It's not normal. And those sharp teeth. Although, I kind of expected them all to have a skin tone closer to that of Moria and most don't.

                                                                                1 Proposed characters

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                                                                                Proposed Characters
                                                                                We’ve been introduced to Morgans. He is 1 of the recently revealed leaders of the Underworld. From the first look, he looks like a bird to me. I don’t think that he has this appearance because of a devil fruit. Those with Zoan type fruits, move around with either their normal form or their hybrid form. Chopper is the only known character that has a zoan type fruit, that utilizes his hybrid form mostly. So, for a character to use their transformed state casually, I highly doubt it.

                                                                                Laffitte is a character that we know little to nothing about, but I think that he is too a member of the feathered race.

                                                                                Only problem I have with that is, Morgans is a full-on bird anthro, with a beak and a wing rather than normal arms and the classic bird legs (with, I would imagine, talons hidden under those shoes). Lafitte only sprouts wings from the wrong part of the body for that type of similarity. Not saying you're wrong about there being more than one kind of Morgans type bird person but I don't believe Lafitte is anything like one of them. If the wings were out and visible the whole time (and bigger), I'd maybe concede a point there. Also I'd expect pointier noses at the very least, or feathery hair. Being virtually identical to a human isn't really conducive to setting them apart. Even the human-looking mermaids have an entirely inhuman lower half so you'd expect if the bird race's human-ish counterparts have normal upper bodies, then some other feature that's impossible to ignore would be more prominent and that doesn't appear to be the case so that would be a bizarre and unhelpful choice on Oda's part if that was how he went about it.

                                                                                Abilities
                                                                                Now, when it comes to these characters, there is much that I purposely left out. I did that because those explanations belong in this section. Now many races have been shown to have more than human abilities. Giants have strength, Merfolk and Fishmen can communicate with fish, Minks can possibly transform when there's a full moon and use electro, and I think that there are a few abilities of those of the feathered race.

                                                                                https://i.pinimg.com/236x/70/23/65/7023653627b029ac12e8d7011d54126a–infants-electro.jpghttp://opwiki.org/images/thumb/Walhai.png/180px-Walhai.pnghttps://www.quizz.biz/uploads/quizz/705147/6_k5647.jpg

                                                                                Well Morgans can't fly, according to the wiki, so that being what would be expected as a major component of being one of the feather race seems to not be the reality of it, at least in his case. We'd have to see at least one who could (and for the reasons stated above I'm not able to count Lafitte in their number, not at the current moment). It's not like Morgans is modeled after a flightless bird like a penguin or ostrich or emu.

                                                                                First, I want to mention that I think that like Fishmen and Merfolk, there might be those that resemble humans and those that resemble a more bird like appearance. I would put Laffitte under the more human like appearance. I bring this up because I think those like Laffitte have the ability to bring out and put away their wings. I haven’t seen any of the 3 races from the Moon do this, so I put Laffitte here. Maybe this explains why there are moments when he has his wings out and moments when he doesn’t. Another ability that I think those of the feathered race possess is the ability to communicate with other feathered creatures. Morgans possibly uses the news coo as workers.

                                                                                Given there are sky people who wear (fake) wings there are a lot of alternate explanations for Lafitte having non-standard wings (i.e. his arms not becoming them the way Morgans' are), and them being more angel-style shoulder-mounted ones, my current favorite theory about Lafitte is that he's some kind of mythical Zoan user. Also it makes sense for there to be a division between fishfolk and merfolk (each of them being close to human in a major way but each distinct from the other) but not for there to be humanoid birdpeople and more avian anthro birdpeople when one is almost 100% indistinguishable from humans most of the time. Or if there were, you'd expect to see them in full angel wing mode at all times, at the very least. If we see a genuine Harpy somewhere, and not a fake one like Monet, then we're onto something but we haven't got precedent for them yet. But here's hoping because that would be awesome. Let's just not count our chicken-people til they hatch.

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                                                                                Laffitte might just have a Devil Fruit Ability that grants him those wings. Laffitte could also be a mix or one of the 3 Moon races. Morgans might not have anything to do with the News Coo. There is also the fact that they weren’t listed on the slave list.

                                                                                Ah, so you'd already taken that DF possibility into account too. Not sure where that Moon races thing came from but there certainly are other places we've seen wings of one sort or another. Hell, even Robin once made wings with her DF power. And I'm not convinced Morgans communicates or controls the birds pulling his flying ship in the way that Jimbei controlled those whale sharks, I think they're just captured and are of a sufficient level of intelligence like most animals in One Piece to understand that if they don't keep flapping they'll either fall and die or be punished for slacking off.

                                                                                Conclusion

                                                                                • Morgans and Laffitte are members of a feathered race

                                                                                • They can communicate with feathered creatures and some can make their wings appear or disappear

                                                                                • There are two types of the feathered race, the ones that resemble birds more and the ones that look more human like and can bring out their wings.

                                                                                That all requires way too many assumptions at the current moment when you summarize it that way. It's not unheard of for people to have a certain animal-esque appearanze like that Nezumi guy from the Arlong Park arc where he looked like a mouse.But I'll grant that Morgans' entire body is so bird-like it's hard to deny he's the genuine thing, short of being constantly in a hybrid Zoan form. I'd certainly like there to be both avian and reptilian offshoots of the Minks but I want to see more than one example before I subscribe to there actually being a whole species of one or the other. The only alternative we haven't considered is some kind of really messed up cross-breeding between people and those giant birds from the Torino Kingdom and turning into that scene from the season 1 finale of Superjail!

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                                                                                  With only 50 away from 1000th chapter, what do you guys think will happen? Predict away.

                                                                                  Personally, nothing's more fitting than Shanks-Luffy reunion, but it's pretty dim at this point.

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                                                                                    With only 50 away from 1000th chapter, what do you guys think will happen? Predict away.

                                                                                    I'll take a crack at something. How about…

                                                                                    Things look grim on the mainland. Half the scabbards have been heavily beaten, Kaido/Big Mom have blocked off sight of the moon with a heavy cloud cover (robbing the Minks of their chance to use Sulong), and Zunesha lies dead on the coast of Wano. It's only a matter of time until the alliance gets overrun by the Beast Pirate's numbers. Kaido, Orochi, Big Mom, and their elites are partying at Kaido's base, content that the rebellion is as good as dead already, when something shakes the entire building/Onigashima. The Thousand Sunny is flying through the air at the island, blasting it with new weapons/new concentrated Gaon Cannon blasts. The Sunny crashes onto the island and all the Strawhats and Supernovas (Kidd, Law, Hawkins, Drake, Apoo, Killer, and maybe parts of their crews) step off and declare they're finally here to kick Kaido's ass.

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                                                                                      I'll take a crack at something. How about…

                                                                                      Things look grim on the mainland. Half the scabbards have been heavily beaten, Kaido/Big Mom have blocked off sight of the moon with a heavy cloud cover (robbing the Minks of their chance to use Sulong), and Zunesha lies dead on the coast of Wano. It's only a matter of time until the alliance gets overrun by the Beast Pirate's numbers. Kaido, Orochi, Big Mom, and their elites are partying at Kaido's base, content that the rebellion is as good as dead already, when something shakes the entire building/Onigashima. The Thousand Sunny is flying through the air at the island, blasting it with new weapons/new concentrated Gaon Cannon blasts. The Sunny crashes onto the island and all the Strawhats and Supernovas (Kidd, Law, Hawkins, Drake, Apoo, Killer, and maybe parts of their crews) step off and declare they're finally here to kick Kaido's ass.

                                                                                      Would it be about Wano though? It's not something-hundreth chapter but 1000th, it's only comparable to first and maybe 100th chapter.

                                                                                      I feel like Act 3 is going to end at late 990s mark and shift to world-building chapters like Reverie (if it's still going on) where something grandiose is revealed.

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                                                                                        I think it's more important to celebrate the 1000th chapter by having the Strawhats do something awesome and cool. Focusing on the Reverie for an awesome world-building reveal, is still doing something without the Strawhats present, which is not what I'd personally like. But idk, maybe to satisfy both, chapter 999 will be the reverie reveal and final "intermission" chapter between acts 3 and 4, and chapter 1000 will be my idea as the start of Act 4.

                                                                                        Not that I expect to be right, I just threw out what I thought would be a fun idea.

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                                                                                          I agree, and would like to add a type of Demon race to that. Freakers like Magellan, Moria and Bartolomeo come to mind. Possibly also Saldeath and Hannyabal and a few others. It's those horns, man. It's not normal. And those sharp teeth. Although, I kind of expected them all to have a skin tone closer to that of Moria and most don't.

                                                                                          Only problem I have with that is, Morgans is a full-on bird anthro, with a beak and a wing rather than normal arms and the classic bird legs (with, I would imagine, talons hidden under those shoes). Lafitte only sprouts wings from the wrong part of the body for that type of similarity. Not saying you're wrong about there being more than one kind of Morgans type bird person but I don't believe Lafitte is anything like one of them. If the wings were out and visible the whole time (and bigger), I'd maybe concede a point there. Also I'd expect pointier noses at the very least, or feathery hair. Being virtually identical to a human isn't really conducive to setting them apart. Even the human-looking mermaids have an entirely inhuman lower half so you'd expect if the bird race's human-ish counterparts have normal upper bodies, then some other feature that's impossible to ignore would be more prominent and that doesn't appear to be the case so that would be a bizarre and unhelpful choice on Oda's part if that was how he went about it.

                                                                                          Well Morgans can't fly, according to the wiki, so that being what would be expected as a major component of being one of the feather race seems to not be the reality of it, at least in his case. We'd have to see at least one who could (and for the reasons stated above I'm not able to count Lafitte in their number, not at the current moment). It's not like Morgans is modeled after a flightless bird like a penguin or ostrich or emu.

                                                                                          Given there are sky people who wear (fake) wings there are a lot of alternate explanations for Lafitte having non-standard wings (i.e. his arms not becoming them the way Morgans' are), and them being more angel-style shoulder-mounted ones, my current favorite theory about Lafitte is that he's some kind of mythical Zoan user. Also it makes sense for there to be a division between fishfolk and merfolk (each of them being close to human in a major way but each distinct from the other) but not for there to be humanoid birdpeople and more avian anthro birdpeople when one is almost 100% indistinguishable from humans most of the time. Or if there were, you'd expect to see them in full angel wing mode at all times, at the very least. If we see a genuine Harpy somewhere, and not a fake one like Monet, then we're onto something but we haven't got precedent for them yet. But here's hoping because that would be awesome. Let's just not count our chicken-people til they hatch.

                                                                                          Ah, so you'd already taken that DF possibility into account too. Not sure where that Moon races thing came from but there certainly are other places we've seen wings of one sort or another. Hell, even Robin once made wings with her DF power. And I'm not convinced Morgans communicates or controls the birds pulling his flying ship in the way that Jimbei controlled those whale sharks, I think they're just captured and are of a sufficient level of intelligence like most animals in One Piece to understand that if they don't keep flapping they'll either fall and die or be punished for slacking off.

                                                                                          That all requires way too many assumptions at the current moment when you summarize it that way. It's not unheard of for people to have a certain animal-esque appearanze like that Nezumi guy from the Arlong Park arc where he looked like a mouse.But I'll grant that Morgans' entire body is so bird-like it's hard to deny he's the genuine thing, short of being constantly in a hybrid Zoan form. I'd certainly like there to be both avian and reptilian offshoots of the Minks but I want to see more than one example before I subscribe to there actually being a whole species of one or the other. The only alternative we haven't considered is some kind of really messed up cross-breeding between people and those giant birds from the Torino Kingdom and turning into that scene from the season 1 finale of Superjail!

                                                                                          Thank you so much for reading. As for the theory, it's 2 years old and the others that i'm posting are just as old or older, so they're being put here for updates. I'm thinking of adding King, but he's just as much of a stretch.

                                                                                          A little off topic, but ability wise, i'm questioning what Bobbins, Lafitte and Brook are doing to influence people. There's music, hypnotism and even chants via sound effects. I wonder if these are related in some way. Might be a technique like Rokushiki and Hasshoken.

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                                                                                            A little off topic, but ability wise, i'm questioning what Bobbins, Lafitte and Brook are doing to influence people. There's music, hypnotism and even chants via sound effects. I wonder if these are related in some way. Might be a technique like Rokushiki and Hasshoken.

                                                                                            With Lafitte I think he hypnotizes with a Zoan fruit. An owl to be specific.

                                                                                              • He's got wings so chances are he is a bird.
                                                                                              • He can hypnotize and the large eyes of an owl are said to be hypnotic.
                                                                                              • He snuck into the war lords meeting without making a sound. Yeah we assume he flew through the window but wing flaps make quite a bit of noise. What type of bird is known for its ability to be super stealthy in flight? What can flap without a sound? Owls.

                                                                                            With Brook he is combining his music with his Soul Fruit. Brook was born to use that fruit because a regular joe would probably only make ghosts and ice. But Brook produces music and music moves the soul pretty literally. Ever hear some notes or lyrics that just bring you to tears, give you goosebumps or inspire you to go ham? Of course you have! Brook be playing that old time rock and roll, you know the kind of music that soothes the soul! Once the music gets people soulful mood the Soul Fruit goes in for manipulation.

                                                                                            Bobbin is anyones guess at the moment.

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                                                                                              Thank you so much for reading. As for the theory, it's 2 years old and the others that i'm posting are just as old or older, so they're being put here for updates. I'm thinking of adding King, but he's just as much of a stretch.

                                                                                              A little off topic, but ability wise, i'm questioning what Bobbins, Lafitte and Brook are doing to influence people. There's music, hypnotism and even chants via sound effects. I wonder if these are related in some way. Might be a technique like Rokushiki and Hasshoken.

                                                                                              You would have to add Miss Golden Week to the list. I guess it's not all connected, but just the fact that there are many magical powers outside devil fruits in One Piece world.

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                                                                                                With only 50 away from 1000th chapter, what do you guys think will happen? Predict away.

                                                                                                Personally, nothing's more fitting than Shanks-Luffy reunion, but it's pretty dim at this point.

                                                                                                That's still equivalent to waiting for a whole year, though.

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                                                                                                With Lafitte I think he hypnotizes with a Zoan fruit. An owl to be specific.

                                                                                                  • He's got wings so chances are he is a bird.
                                                                                                  • He can hypnotize and the large eyes of an owl are said to be hypnotic.
                                                                                                  • He snuck into the war lords meeting without making a sound. Yeah we assume he flew through the window but wing flaps make quite a bit of noise. What type of bird is known for its ability to be super stealthy in flight? What can flap without a sound? Owls.

                                                                                                With Brook he is combining his music with his Soul Fruit. Brook was born to use that fruit because a regular joe would probably only make ghosts and ice. But Brook produces music and music moves the soul pretty literally. Ever hear some notes or lyrics that just bring you to tears, give you goosebumps or inspire you to go ham? Of course you have! Brook be playing that old time rock and roll, you know the kind of music that soothes the soul! Once the music gets people soulful mood the Soul Fruit goes in for manipulation.

                                                                                                Bobbin is anyones guess at the moment.

                                                                                                Lafitte's bird-ness is weird. On the one hand Marco turned his arms into wings so we know avian zoans can do that. But on the other hand, Pell was able to sprout shoulder-wings, although he was fully transformed then and his hands were very talon-like. So it's unclear just how much control there is over one's Zoan transformations in keeping one's appearance mostly human while still utilizing some of the zoan features (especially if it means popping them out of where they wouldn't normally appear (that's more of a SMILE type of thing). I was leaning toward a Mythical Zoan, not necessarily avian but upon reflection I could go either way. There should be something to be said about his dancing and spinning that cane, those can potentially be hypnotic too.

                                                                                                I don't remember Bobbin having any kind of mind control, though, when did that happen? He's the fat weirdo with the little mask made out of a brown paper lunch bag over his face, right?

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                                                                                                  I don't remember Bobbin having any kind of mind control, though, when did that happen? He's the fat weirdo with the little mask made out of a brown paper lunch bag over his face, right?

                                                                                                  Yeah Bobbin is that weird guy with the little mask. Many people argued that he was higher on the pecking order in the Mom Pirates because he didn't seem to fear Lin Lin at all. Then it turns out Pekoms and Tamago had bounties darn near 3-4 times as much as his lol. Any way I think we saw Bobbin use this like hypno wave that just appeared out of his face/body when Sanji kicked him through the wall. He put to sleep some fodder guards so he could take on Sanji himself.

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                                                                                                      The thing about Jango is that i've never seen the circular lines or when he hypnotizes people to forget or go beyond their limits. I've seen it for Bobbins, Brook and Laffitte tho. It can be tossed up to Oda not just using it that early in the series.

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                                                                                                        My theory is Tama's fruit is named Kibi Kibi no Mi a pun of kibi-dango and kibi(meaning to follow/to lead).

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