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    • Monkey King
      Monkey King @John.Rambo
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      @John.Rambo:

      I was thinking about the power Blackbeard has gained and remembered the Payback War between him and Marco the Phoenix. As some others have pointed out, it is implied Blackbeard would steal another fruit for himself.
      So far he has paramecia and logia confirmed, but he is missing a zoan type Devil Fruit so my hypothesis is this: After the Payback War, Blackbeard somehow stole Marco's fruit without killing him.
      That would make him the most broken character in One Piece, but I'm thinking this can be possible.

      Not sure. I think the definite thing we know is that Blackbeard's eleven top guys are also going around getting fruits for themselves (aside from the ones that already have them like Lafitte).

      P.S. I apologise if I made some sort of sintaxis or wording mistake. English is not my native language.

      What language is?

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        @John.Rambo:

        I was thinking about the power Blackbeard has gained and remembered the Payback War between him and Marco the Phoenix. As some others have pointed out, it is implied Blackbeard would steal another fruit for himself.
        So far he has paramecia and logia confirmed, but he is missing a zoan type Devil Fruit so my hypothesis is this: After the Payback War, Blackbeard somehow stole Marco's fruit without killing him.
        That would make him the most broken character in One Piece, but I'm thinking this can be possible.
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        I dunno man. Teach don't scream Phoenix to me.

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          I dunno man. Teach don't scream Phoenix to me.

          Me neither. I have a hypothesis about Blackbeard killing Kaido after he's defeated by Luffy, thus removing an emperor from the equation, ensuring that there will be a power vacuum after his defeat (I mean, he can't be arrested like Dofla or Croco-boy, he's no Warlord, he's broken free from the Marines before) and taking his supposed Dragon Zoan in the process, thus granting him the most powerful Devil Fruit of each category.

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            If anyone from the BB pirates gets the Phoenix fruit, that's Burgess. Because he already has bird legs and a bird on his belt.

            https://imgur.com/MyjRSWw

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              @John.Rambo:

              I was thinking about the power Blackbeard has gained and remembered the Payback War between him and Marco the Phoenix. As some others have pointed out, it is implied Blackbeard would steal another fruit for himself.

              While we can´t be certain for sure, it´s heavily implied, that the previous user has to be dead, before a DF can be passed to the next guy.
              So Marco should still have his ability, especially when also Weeble and Nekomamushi are after him.
              He must still possess enough power to help the alliance, while also being for Weeble the main target, which ain´t fitting with a broken guy who lost his broken superability^^

              Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

              IslandElbaf/Raftel/GodValley

              UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

              DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop

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                Not sure. I think the definite thing we know is that Blackbeard's eleven top guys are also going around getting fruits for themselves (aside from the ones that already have them like Lafitte).

                What language is?

                Yeah but I thought it'd be fitting for Blackbeard to have the strongest logia, the strongest paramecia and (I suppose) the strongest zoan.
                Now I don't have any actual basis to say Marco's fruit is the strongest zoan, but considering its broken healing power, that would be the solution to Teach's over-absortion of pain.

                P.S. My native language is spanish.

                If you're going on a trip… where would you like to go?

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                  Theory: The World Government is responsible for the "Great Age of Pirates". I actually created a whole video about it :happy:. If you want to watch it, the link is here:

                  ut the gist of it is that the "Great Age of Pirates" is a violent counter culture, and a direct reaction and response to the oppression of the World Government. For more details, please watch my video 😁. Really. Watch it.

                  Put it in writing and I bet this theory would get more discussion here. A few of us are deaf. That and some of us have a problem seeing images from the anime.

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                  I would say that yes the government is more or less responsible for the number of pirates out there in general but it really took off when they executed Roger. The nature of their water world would suggest that there always has been and always will be pirates. Roger's legendary journeys and One Piece just set it to 11. I'm sure even before Roger there were people like Nami, Franky, and Chopper who just wanted to travel the world not necessarily to escape oppression. Of course on the other hand there are the Sabos, Aces and Luffys of the world as well.

                  I mean yeah some people go to sea to be free from oppression but they also do it because maybe the economy is extremely bad on their island and take a chance on the open ocean. Or heck what about Bellamy? He became a pirate because he was tired of his rich and cushy life style.

                  The World Government is ultimately the bad guy but I think you paint the picture far too black and white. We've seen plenty to suggest that the people at the top do what they do for selfish purposes and for the greater good. The void century may just be taboo for a very good reason. We also know that the nations that are allied with the WG do have to pay a tribute or a tax to the Celestial Dragons but ultimately every island follows its own set of laws. It's not the 5 Elder's who turned Wapol into a Jerk but allow Cobra to govern responsibly allowing it's people to prosper. And speaking of Cobra, the Nefaltari family are in every sense a peace of the original WG that started it all. Their reluctance to move to Mariejois and ultimately aid the "evil" D's by protecting the Poneglyph and ancient weapon once again tells us that the oppressed history and nature of the WG is a very complex issue.

                  I think thats all I got for now. With text its easier to go over individual points. I recommend typing it out next time.

                  Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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                    @Lulu758:

                    Theory: The World Government is responsible for the "Great Age of Pirates". I actually created a whole video about it :happy:. If you want to watch it, the link is here:

                    ut the gist of it is that the "Great Age of Pirates" is a violent counter culture, and a direct reaction and response to the oppression of the World Government. For more details, please watch my video 😁. Really. Watch it.

                    Hmm, I don't buy it.
                    1. For starters the Great Age of Pirates has been pretty clearly stated both by narrator and characters on both sides of the law as stemming from Roger's execution.
                    You don't seem convinced about an incident like that being the trigger? But why not?
                    Roger was already super famous, and he used his death to establish a huge legend. A treasure, or something anyway, the ultimate treasure.
                    Its simple but genius. Establishing a legend like that would spur countless people to flock to Raftel (or try). Whatever exactly Roger's motives were for that, its clear he wanted that result. Whether its greed or the adventure of following the trail of such a huge person like Roger, these are basic and really effective motivations for humans. Its playing on simple core desires in a big way.
                    Yes there were pirates before Roger, but the implication of the Great Age of Pirates is that this number multiplied a ton. And also gave all these pirates a common driving obsession rather than them just being aimless thieves/vagabonds.

                    2. The World Government…isn't totalitarian. This is the biggest issue I had with the video is the WG description. Is the WG authoritarian? Yep. Are they bad? Yep? And in the wrong time and place will you experience intense oppression and wronging by the government? Yep. But "totalitarian"? No.
                    You describe the WG like its some constant oppressive presence, but that's simply completely untrue. For the most part they aren't all that obviously even around, generally its some Marines floating around. Some of whom are nasty, plenty of whom are not. The average life in One Piece isn't suffering under the boot of government much at all.
                    The worst examples of the WG are very specific.
                    -Being anywhere near the world nobles (which is really only a thing to worry about near Mariejois)
                    -Looking into or being involved in the Lost History research.
                    -If your local Marine leader happens to be an asshole like Morgan or Nezumi.
                    You describe the WG like it's run by Stalin or something, like it's close to North Korea! But really ...no. That's just not the WG we're shown in the series at all.
                    So the idea that the Great Age of Pirates was caused by the WG being so oppressive just doesn't make much sense. Average people just aren't shown being ground down by the state except in specific circumstances.
                    There's some other issues. Like saying the WG destroyed countries that wouldn't join it? Um...when was that stated? We've been told that the WG can be petty dicks to non-member nations (like it being apparently ok to sell human slaves ONLY if they're from non-member nations). But destroy them? Or force them to join? Never stated.
                    You also talk about the Goa type society like its the norm....but no that's not true. Some places have nasty local rulers (which...really isn't the WG's creation, though they certainly coddle such people), like Goa, Drum, Dressrosa etc. But then there's all the other nations/islands where people are doing just fine and have cool and good leaders like Alabasta and Water7. And then all those other places that don't seem to have political leaders beyond mayors in the first place.
                    There's a really diverse bunch of societies in the WG territory, they definitely aren't enforcing noble privilege where it doesn't exist. But yes I suppose they coexist nicely with ones that do.
                    Also not sure how much Luffy really "lived through" the oppression as you describe. Goa didn't seem to care or bother with Windmill Village, like that nasty class system seemed more focused around the capital. Luffy observed all that, but his actual town he lived in seems pretty set apart from it all.

                    3. Not really an argument from me here, since this is speculative as crap in part. But do you really think the WG will be destroyed? Rather than just the current regime and the world noble system? You say that all the countries will go back to being independent...but like I have to think some of these island societies probably didn't even exist 800 years back (well heck we know that's the case for a few), and that most of the little smaller communities aren't really countries in the first place. Like tiny villages sitting on tiny islands I have to think function partly off the system of a world spanning government? To completely destroy the WG as a whole seems like it would be kind of bad for lots of places. Maybe it will evolve more into a WG-lite thing, like the EU or something.

                    Having said that I kind of like the way you describe Roger's impact as giving aimless vagabonds a dream.

                    The way you approach the themes, what are your thoughts on Blackbeard?
                    If you have all these counter-cultural people going out to overturn the government and expand the theme of freedom.....what about the evil ones? What role do you picture them and specifically most of all Blackbeard, playing in this plot?

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                      @RomanceDawn:

                      Put it in writing and I bet this theory would get more discussion here. A few of us are deaf. That and some of us have a problem seeing images from the anime.

                      –-EDIT---

                      I would say that yes the government is more or less responsible for the number of pirates out there in general but it really took off when they executed Roger. The nature of their water world would suggest that there always has been and always will be pirates. Roger's legendary journeys and One Piece just set it to 11. I'm sure even before Roger there were people like Nami, Franky, and Chopper who just wanted to travel the world not necessarily to escape oppression. Of course on the other hand there are the Sabos, Aces and Luffys of the world as well.

                      I mean yeah some people go to sea to be free from oppression but they also do it because maybe the economy is extremely bad on their island and take a chance on the open ocean. Or heck what about Bellamy? He became a pirate because he was tired of his rich and cushy life style.

                      The World Government is ultimately the bad guy but I think you paint the picture far too black and white. We've seen plenty to suggest that the people at the top do what they do for selfish purposes and for the greater good. The void century may just be taboo for a very good reason. We also know that the nations that are allied with the WG do have to pay a tribute or a tax to the Celestial Dragons but ultimately every island follows its own set of laws. It's not the 5 Elder's who turned Wapol into a Jerk but allow Cobra to govern responsibly allowing it's people to prosper. And speaking of Cobra, the Nefaltari family are in every sense a peace of the original WG that started it all. Their reluctance to move to Mariejois and ultimately aid the "evil" D's by protecting the Poneglyph and ancient weapon once again tells us that the oppressed history and nature of the WG is a very complex issue.

                      I think thats all I got for now. With text its easier to go over individual points. I recommend typing it out next time.

                      The reason they post their links to youtube here is so that they can get youtube views it should be against the rules imagine if everyone just posted a link to their youtube video or to another forum about what they think instead of posting it on here where people can read it lol.

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                        @sanji''s_dad:

                        The reason they post their links to youtube here is so that they can get youtube views it should be against the rules imagine if everyone just posted a link to their youtube video or to another forum about what they think instead of posting it on here where people can read it lol.

                        Well, to be fair, some of those theories are pretty good.

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                          @Riccardo:

                          Well, to be fair, some of those theories are pretty good.

                          I don't care they should not be using the forums to advertise other websites to see what they have to say you get people just posting a video of them talking about the chapter thread to get their youtube channel views instead of saying anything about the chapter and all their theory's are stolen from other people anyways.

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                            Aside from giving birth to twins and multiples up to ten, Big Mom could also be able to shorten her pregnancies.
                            P.D. Rouge had lengthen her pregnancy, so I see no problem with the possibility that a woman with superhuman strength needs only like half the time a normal woman would need to give birth to healthy babies.

                            “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                              @sanji''s_dad:

                              I don't care they should not be using the forums to advertise other websites to see what they have to say you get people just posting a video of them talking about the chapter thread to get their youtube channel views instead of saying anything about the chapter and all their theory's are stolen from other people anyways.

                              Nah, you're right. Most of the time those people have the most annoying way of making video's. I also prefer to read.

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                                @Wintermute:

                                Aside from giving birth to twins and multiples up to ten, Big Mom could also be able to shorten her pregnancies.
                                P.D. Rouge had lengthen her pregnancy, so I see no problem with the possibility that a woman with superhuman strength needs only like half the time a normal woman would need to give birth to healthy babies.

                                Depending on what her ability actually is, she might not even have to carry the children herself.

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                                Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                  @sanji''s_dad:

                                  I don't care they should not be using the forums to advertise other websites to see what they have to say you get people just posting a video of them talking about the chapter thread to get their youtube channel views instead of saying anything about the chapter and all their theory's are stolen from other people anyways.

                                  Come on man, you clearly didn't click Riccardo's link.
                                  Check out the one he posted, it really might change your whole perspective on things.

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                                    Depending on what her ability actually is, she might not even have to carry the children herself.

                                    True, maybe she lays eggs or other crazy stuff. Fuckin break. I want to know.

                                    “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                                      @Riccardo:

                                      Well, to be fair, some of those theories are pretty good.

                                      @Monkey:

                                      Come on man, you clearly didn't click Riccardo's link.
                                      Check out the one he posted, it really might change your whole perspective on things.

                                      Ah! You both got me.

                                      Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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                                        Ah! You both got me.

                                        The sign of the true classic is that in spite of being done to death and overplayed beyond belief.
                                        That fundamentally its still just real good.

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                                          True, maybe she lays eggs or other crazy stuff. Fuckin break. I want to know.

                                          Maybe she bakes them. Maybe all the stuff that got stolen last chapter was so she could put another bun in the oven.

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                                            Thank you for providing me with mental images of Big Mom's "oven".

                                            Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                            Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                            It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                              Haha. Well I doubt they were calling her BIG Mom because of her hat-size.

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                                                @Monkey:

                                                The sign of the true classic is that in spite of being done to death and overplayed beyond belief.
                                                That fundamentally its still just real good.

                                                It was worse for me, I actually went to the theory video. And wasted a couple of minutes figuring out if you were being sarcastic until I saw there were two videos all along.

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                                                  @Riccardo:

                                                  Well, to be fair, some of those theories are pretty good.

                                                  I agree with EVERYTHING this theory explained. Right down to the song. I blame Monkey King for this:ninja:

                                                  The face of a Straw Hat.

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                                                    Maybe that egg on the Oro Jackson was laid by Big Mom and a good chunk of her daughters came from that.

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                                                    A magical strange Twilight Zone episode where no other education is offered, and the only option is Bill Nye the Science Guy videos

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                                                      Maybe that egg on the Oro Jackson was laid by Big Mom and a good chunk of her daughters came from that.

                                                      maybe big mom came out of the egg lol.

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                                                        Which came first, the Linlin or the egg?

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                                                        A magical strange Twilight Zone episode where no other education is offered, and the only option is Bill Nye the Science Guy videos

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                                                          😴….Wano has a large amount of...Liquore....one reason Kaido...took over Wano...being...the drunk....he is...😆.....😴

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                                                            😴….Wano has a large amount of...Liquore....one reason Kaido...took over Wano...being...the drunk....he is...😆.....😴

                                                            As you half joke sleep away, I also mentioned this, but the question I never got to answer was why, the Shogun would supply the material for the weapon trade on the black market.

                                                            Talking about Wano, I was reading the one shots from Ryuma and I wonder if Oda will bring back more elements of that one shot into the story. Mainly the dragon horn, and if he does, how will this tie up with Momo, maybe he will start acting weird when they reach/are in Wano.

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                                                              😴…hmmm...so greed, fear, or control led to murder on the Shogun's part perhaps?....who would have the dragon's horn in the 1st place?...hmmm....Kaido! The Shogun....could have the Dragon Devil Fruit and Kaido....could have the Oni Devil Fruit.....Zoro (tiger) vs Shogun (dragon)....Tea Party is Sanji arc....Wano is Zoro arc.....😁:ninja:😉😴

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                                                                Now that prince Sanji is a thing, I wonder if fanatics will chant for Lord Roronoa once Wano starts getting closer. And, yeah if Kaido has some sort of dragon devil fruit then it could be the other way around.

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                                                                  Now that prince Sanji is a thing, I wonder if fanatics will chant for Lord Roronoa once Wano starts getting closer. And, yeah if Kaido has some sort of dragon devil fruit then it could be the other way around.

                                                                  That's one of the things that I have been scared shirtless about One Piece, Oda making every Strawhat special, they were born to be great because their families are great type of plot… I seriously hate when stuff like that happen! Shhh

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                                                                    That's one of the things that I have been scared shirtless about One Piece, Oda making every Strawhat special, they were born to be great because their families are great type of plot… I seriously hate when stuff like that happen!

                                                                    Yeah, I really hope Oda doesn't go that route: I hate it when series undermine characters' hard work like that by effectively saying "only characters born to the right families can ever really be important".

                                                                    I don't mind it when there are a couple members of the crew with Important Families as backgrounds, but it would start to bug me even if it were just all of the monster trio who were 'born special' like that.

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                                                                      Yeah, I really hope Oda doesn't go that route: I hate it when series undermine characters' hard work like that by effectively saying "only characters born to the right families can ever really be important".

                                                                      I don't mind it when there are a couple members of the crew with Important Families as backgrounds, but it would start to bug me even if it were just all of the monster trio who were 'born special' like that.

                                                                      I get what you guys mean, and I also don't like that trope, but it's not like the Straw Hat's families have impacted their lives in any way. Luffy isn't a strong, important character because he's a Monkey (although being a D is special), Sanji's origins were not relevant at all until this particular plot point deemed them to be. Usopp being Yasopp's son has been completely irrelevant so far as well. And I don't think Oda has enough time to give every other straw hat member what he's giving Sanji now, anyway.

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                                                                        Luffy isn't a strong, important character because he's a Monkey (although being a D is special),

                                                                        I mean, he kind of is (every member of the Monkey family we've seen has either been established as ridiculously strong, or been implied to be)… but at least Oda gave it a reasonable explanation: his grandfather putting him in mortal peril from an early age to make him strong.

                                                                        Sanji's origins were not relevant at all until this particular plot point deemed them to be. Usopp being Yasopp's son has been completely irrelevant so far as well.

                                                                        Sure, but suddenly, we have a family of super-strong people that Sanji came from (potentially as part of the explanation for why he's so unusually strong). The way it's been handled for him and Luffy so far doesn't bug me, but if we got a similar explanation involving Zoro's family, it would bug me.

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                                                                          I mean, he kind of is (every member of the Monkey family we've seen has either been established as ridiculously strong, or been implied to be)… but at least Oda gave it a reasonable explanation: his grandfather putting him in mortal peril from an early age to make him strong.

                                                                          Sure, but suddenly, we have a family of super-strong people that Sanji came from (potentially as part of the explanation for why he's so unusually strong). The way it's been handled for him and Luffy so far doesn't bug me, but if we got a similar explanation involving Zoro's family, it would bug me.

                                                                          If Zoro turns out to the distant ancestor of Ryuuma, I can take that; however, if he turns out to be Mihawk's abandoned child, then I'll have problems.

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                                                                            I mean, he kind of is (every member of the Monkey family we've seen has either been established as ridiculously strong, or been implied to be)… but at least Oda gave it a reasonable explanation: his grandfather putting him in mortal peril from an early age to make him strong.

                                                                            Sure, but suddenly, we have a family of super-strong people that Sanji came from (potentially as part of the explanation for why he's so unusually strong). The way it's been handled for him and Luffy so far doesn't bug me, but if we got a similar explanation involving Zoro's family, it would bug me.

                                                                            Zoro being strong makes more sense than luffy and sanji since zoro was travelling around dojo to dojo beating them he only stayed at kuina's dad's dojo because she beat him.

                                                                            Then when zoro left he became a bounty hunter

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                                                                              I mean, he kind of is (every member of the Monkey family we've seen has either been established as ridiculously strong, or been implied to be)… but at least Oda gave it a reasonable explanation: his grandfather putting him in mortal peril from an early age to make him strong.

                                                                              Sure, but suddenly, we have a family of super-strong people that Sanji came from (potentially as part of the explanation for why he's so unusually strong). The way it's been handled for him and Luffy so far doesn't bug me, but if we got a similar explanation involving Zoro's family, it would bug me.

                                                                              Sanji has the same "excuse" as Luffy.
                                                                              He probably already had some training from his family and then he was mentored in cooking and fighting by Zeff, a famous strong pirate.

                                                                              Despite a few Strawhat's having notorious backgrounds we still see them training and fighting hard to reach their objectives.
                                                                              I mean Usopp's father is also a sniper and he's probably the one who taught the basics to him but we still see Usopp working hard and developing his talent alone. Same for Robin.

                                                                              That being said, no need to have Nami's or Franky's birth parents being anything more than random people from somewhere.
                                                                              Now that we can look in hindsight Sanji had lots of small hints about some mistery in his past but no one else had that kind of foreshadowing so I don't think it's going to become a trend.
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                                                                              Zoro being strong makes more sense than luffy and sanji since zoro was travelling around dojo to dojo beating them he only stayed at kuina's dad's dojo because she beat him.

                                                                              Then when zoro left he became a bounty hunter

                                                                              When did that first part happen? What makes you think that Zoro was going around trashing dojos?
                                                                              Zoro had no weapon when he got to his master's dojo. When they told he could use as many bamboo swords as he needed he literally grabbed every single one he could with both his hands and his mouth.

                                                                              It's pretty clear that Zoro already had a wish to be strong and liked swords but he simply did not know how to make friends and ask nicely.

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                                                                                I mean you can't say Zoro is great because he was born in a great family, if he was. That guy has been working hard, grinding his ass off since he was little. He deserves every bit of praise, same with the rest of the SHs. Not cuz they are from some great families..they went through lot of shit and made it to the top without the help from their great families.

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                                                                                  That being said, no need to have Nami's or Franky's birth parents being anything more than random people from somewhere.
                                                                                  Now that we can look in hindsight Sanji had lots of small hints about some mistery in his past but no one else had that kind of foreshadowing so I don't think it's going to become a trend.

                                                                                  Actually, the remark that Franky's father or maybe even both of his parents were pirates was quite mysterious and could lead to something in the future. Though I doubt it will be as big as Sanji's issue right now.

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                                                                                    Zoro being strong makes more sense than luffy and sanji since zoro was travelling around dojo to dojo beating them he only stayed at kuina's dad's dojo because she beat him.

                                                                                    Then when zoro left he became a bounty hunter

                                                                                    Zoro didn't became a bounty hunter, he only captured few guys out of paying food and to repair his swords, he got this name after that, but he said it many times he wasn't a bounty hunter.

                                                                                    In the anime we had a flashback about Zoro and how he met up johnny and yosaku btw.

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                                                                                      Actually, the remark that Franky's father or maybe even both of his parents were pirates was quite mysterious and could lead to something in the future. Though I doubt it will be as big as Sanji's issue right now.

                                                                                      The thing is, if Franky and Nami happen to have great parents the world seems smaller.

                                                                                      Nami and Nojiko being simply born in an island caught up in a war or confrontation betwen the marines and pirates makes the world feel alive.
                                                                                      Same thing for Franky having a shitty father that abandoned him (or maybe a half-decent one that realized his pirate ship was not a good place to raise a kid and dropped him off at the nicest place he found).
                                                                                      Franky's dad eventually appearing as a small time pirate would not "hurt" the story but if he appears and he's a great pirate it makes the world smaller.

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                                                                                        Zoro didn't became a bounty hunter, he only captured few guys out of paying food and to repair his swords, he got this name after that, but he said it many times he wasn't a bounty hunter.

                                                                                        Zoro never says anything of the sort. He went out to sea and ended up hunting pirates to make ends meet yes….which is called bounty hunting. He never specifies that this was just a one time thing, and absolutely nothing suggests that it was.

                                                                                        In the anime we had a flashback about Zoro and how he met up johnny and yosaku btw.

                                                                                        This is the manga sub-forum. No one cares. Do you not know what filler is?

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                                                                                          Zoro never says anything of the sort. He went out to sea and ended up hunting pirates to make ends meet yes….which is called bounty hunting. He never specifies that this was just a one time thing, and absolutely nothing suggests that it was.

                                                                                          especially since yosaku and johnny are supposed to be bounty hunters that worked with him in the past,so it definitely wasn't a one time thing

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                                                                                            especially since yosaku and johnny are supposed to be bounty hunters that worked with him in the past,so it definitely wasn't a one time thing

                                                                                            Add on to Baroque Works (whose frontier officers specialized in bounty hunting near entirely) hearing about his rep as a bounty hunter and sending an officer to recruit him because of it.
                                                                                            Zoro was clearly bounty hunting for quite awhile.

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                                                                                              It's not like you have to register in some Bounty Hunter Guild to be a Bounty Hunter.

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                                                                                                Zoro didn't became a bounty hunter, he only captured few guys out of paying food and to repair his swords, he got this name after that, but he said it many times he wasn't a bounty hunter.

                                                                                                In the anime we had a flashback about Zoro and how he met up johnny and yosaku btw.

                                                                                                You named yourself after zoro and you don't even know his nickname is the pirate hunter because he was a bounty hunter before he joined the crew?
                                                                                                That is a legendary epic fail i normally don't tell people to read the wiki but in your case it would help since you named yourself after a character that you know nothing about at all lol.

                                                                                                Go read it so you know something about the character that you named yourself after lol. http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Roronoa_Zoro

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                                                                                                  Zoro didn't became a bounty hunter, he only captured few guys out of paying food and to repair his swords, he got this name after that, but he said it many times he wasn't a bounty hunter.

                                                                                                  In the anime we had a flashback about Zoro and how he met up johnny and yosaku btw.

                                                                                                  Just stop humiliating yourself

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                                                                                                    You named yourself after zoro and you don't even know his nickname is the pirate hunter because he was a bounty hunter before he joined the crew?
                                                                                                    That is a legendary epic fail i normally don't tell people to read the wiki but in your case it would help since you named yourself after a character that you know nothing about at all lol.

                                                                                                    Go read it so you know something about the character that you named yourself after lol. http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Roronoa_Zoro

                                                                                                    Suggesting anyone to read One Piece wikia is not the smartest thing to do in itself either.
                                                                                                    That site was full of shit the last time I checked.

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                                                                                                      He can also try to read the manga…

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                                                                                                        A counter reply saying to read the wiki is as fail as saying Zoro wasn't a bounty hunter

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