For fucks sake
! Two crossover events had a inhuman macguffin. Man those dark days when they really wanted to shelf the X-men because Fox owned the movie rights.
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I always wondered why that was especially as I’ve heard the books took “some” aspects from the earlier films and plus the later movies were held in much better regard…..at least til Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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I always wondered why that was especially as I’ve heard the books took “some” aspects from the earlier films and plus the later movies were held in much better regard…..at least til Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
The MCU didn't exist when the earlier films were made, so Marvel wasn't competing with its own properties back then.
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I kinda get that but logically it seems dumb when you factor in brand awareness. And the the weird stuff of some characters having to be passed over for stuff like MvC.
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George Perez is with stage 3 pancreatic cancer, he only has 6 months left.
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Just read Dark Ages #1
! Did the higher ups in Marvel just decide, “Hey we need a steampunk universe” and made an event out of it
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Weekly X:
! Magnificent. Hellions was a fantastic run. Bravo to all that made it happen. I waiting to see the seeds it planted grow.
! Man glad to see Doug still has some lingering trust issues with Charles, and he planned with Warlock to build his on surveillance system in tandem with Krakoa. So there's another timeline. One in which mutants do win. And the Dominions sent Shandapar back in time to garante that the Moira's timeline of the always losing comes true. Now I wonder what petty revenge Raven has for Moira, or if Irene will intervene.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
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With Wade being there does this finally acknowledge that his cancer is his mutation or it will another Uncanny X Force scenario?
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Kieron Gillen finally returns to the X-Men!
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Weekly X:
! Magnificent. Hellions was a fantastic run. Bravo to all that made it happen. I waiting to see the seeds it planted grow.
! Man glad to see Doug still has some lingering trust issues with Charles, and he planned with Warlock to build his on surveillance system in tandem with Krakoa. So there's another timeline. One in which mutants do win. And the Dominions sent Shandapar back in time to garante that the Moira's timeline of the always losing comes true. Now I wonder what petty revenge Raven has for Moira, or if Irene will intervene.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
With Wade being there does this finally acknowledge that his cancer is his mutation or it will another Uncanny X Force scenario?
Probably going to be an interloper again. Though since it's been confirmed again Wanda and Pietro won't be mutants because of the almighty MCU synergy, and because Deadpool is a mutant in the Deadpool movies and might continue to be one in the MCU, who knows.
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Superman: Son of Kal-El Annual #1:
! I really don't see why this couldn't just be, like, issue #7. The whole 'annual' system just seems weird to me but whatever. Anyway, I really enjoyed getting to see Jon and Lois interact more since that hasn't been an aspect of their dynamic that has been explored much at all, especially not in Son of Kal-El. This issue kind of addressed some of the issues I have with the Son of Kal-El series so far in that it doesn't really focus enough on a lot of, like, interesting concepts and character actions. Like, I still feel thirst for more after each issue but at least here we get to see Jon have extended interactions with Lex. These are good interactions, too, because I definitely feel like Lex shouldn't know how to handle Jon. Lex battled Clark for decades but that doesn't mean he understands how Jon works and I think that that really does provide a nice curve ball to the story.
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Marauders relaunch by Steve Orlando and Eleonora Carlini.
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Wow a lotta o weekly X missed. Just gonna say that the end of Inferno was underwhelming.
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You know a lot of shit’s been happening these last few
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Weekly X
! I'll hold on commenting X Lives/X Deaths until is over.
! New Mutants keeps being great. No surprise.
! Oh man Roberto is still wanting to bang Deathbird. What a mad lad. And a X-men line-up without a psychic what you were thinking Beto? -
Man did I just read
! Odin not being a dick and sacrificing himself. Wow.
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That’s an interesting power up Thor has it’d be a shame if he were to lose like all his others :ninja:
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I saw a few pictures of Tom Holland and Elizabeth Olsen together and it made me think, I don't think I've ever seen Scarlet Witch and Spider Man interact in the comic books
can you guys think of any examples?
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Action Comics #1,040: Losing my mind at how hot Clark Kent has been ever since he started losing his powers and aging. Daddy Clark needs to STAY from now on! Federici and Janin need to keep doing Action Comics with Daddy Clark together.
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You know they’re not going to do that eventhough the status quo could stand to be shaken up “permanently”.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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You know they’re not going to do that eventhough the status quo could stand to be shaken up “permanently”.
I mean, probably, but also…just do an Ultimate universe for young Clark?
And also, just stop caring about what cishet people think. >_>
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Strange Academy keeps being a banger.
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Anyone been reading Devil’s Reign
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Weekly X
! I wonder if Mikhail is doing some Hinghlander shit where there can be only one mutant nation.
! Sabretooth is shaping into something nice.
! Man somebody really didn't liked Moira.
Nice ending to the latest Thor saga.
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Weekly X
! Devil's Reign tie-in was mildly fun but didn't go anywhere.
! So Moira lives again? As a cyborg? As Phalanx? -
The Flash #780:
! Dick is good, Wally continues to be a DILF and the Irey and Jai are my gremlin children and I love them.
! Hope we get to see more focus on Linda. I don't want her obtaining Speed Force powers to just be in the background. Let's give her a full deep-dive along with the rest of the Wests! -
Trying to get up to date on Thor comics character Gorr the God Butcher
Just finished reading most of Thor’s 2014 run, only have a few issues left then on to the Jane Foster Thor comics
I think he reappears there
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Weekly X
! Man when the new Essex is an absolute blast.
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At least it’s not another rehash of Spider-Verse
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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At least it’s not another rehash of Spider-Verse
Hey, the event worked once, doing the exact same thing another two or four times with the exact same title will surely work out!
It worked so well for Infinity War and Secret War and Civil War and Inferno and Superior Spiderman and a dozen different Hulk variants and….
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Strange Academy keeps being a banger.
This right here.
Scott Young has done a great job showing how unlikable Steven strange is.
Also….I'm super hyped to see what they do with Emily Bright.
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Hey, the event worked once, doing the exact same thing another two or four times with the exact same title will surely work out!
It worked so well for Infinity War and Secret War and Civil War and Inferno and Superior Spiderman and a dozen different Hulk variants and….
Can’t wait until they whip out another storyline involving the Phoenix Force in a few years:ninja:
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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Can’t wait until they whip out another storyline involving the Phoenix Force in a few years:ninja:
They did a phoenix tournament a year ago. Echo won (even though she got eliminated almost immediately) and became the new phoenix host. It was very bad. She just had a miniseries where she time-travelled and met conveniently met another deaf native american phoenix host.
Anyway, Hope will likely get the Phoenix back in the AvX rehash this summer.
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Weekly X
! Marauders on a classic Shi'ar adventure.
! Oh great a compromised Cerebro.
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They did a phoenix tournament a year ago. Echo won (even though she got eliminated almost immediately) and became the new phoenix host. It was very bad. She just had a miniseries where she time-travelled and met conveniently met another deaf native american phoenix host.
Anyway, Hope will likely get the Phoenix back in the AvX rehash this summer.
Oh I know the joke was that the PF will be involved in another storyline before too long. Just like whatever the hell has currently been going on with regards to the PF and Thor.
And as me and Robby joked about the issue of Marvel (& DC) recycling concepts and storylines Ben Reilly apparently is turning into a Villain again after another stint as Spider-Man because this idea wasn’t dumb when they did this with Octavius or when Ben briefly became a villain in that one storyline before that.
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Like, I understand that the average reader turnaround is about 5 year so current fans won't really know a story from 10 or 20 years ago, so they feel okay recycling things but… its really lame when they recycle the BIG ones that everyone does know.
Like the Dark Phoenix Saga was in 1980! Why is it still being regurgitated 40 years later? Hell, there's been 7 main X-Men films and two of them have ended with that story! Badly!
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I guess in the case of Dark Phoenix someone figured “hey they fucked up the first time but damn it we’re going to get it right this time”
.Amazing Spider-Man 2 meanwhile essentially copies the Green Goblin storyline that was (more or less) adapted in the first Raimi film even killing off Gwen Stacy which of course divided fans (which is another story).
The first fantastic four movie and the 2015 reboot ties Doom to the team’s origin “for reasons”.
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Can’t wait until they whip out another storyline involving the Phoenix Force in a few years:ninja:
The last time I saw the phoenix force was at the end of avengers vol. 7 the age of khonshu, where it foreshadowed wolverine becoming it's avatar.
Though I can never keep track of the tie-ins and timelines is far too dependant on comicsexplained.
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I'm late to the game but I recently started learning about Claremont's sixteen year run on the X Books and am flabbergasted that this happened. I tried to look up to see if it was released in collected form but it doesn't appear to be? That sucks.
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I'm late to the game but I recently started learning about Claremont's sixteen year run on the X Books and am flabbergasted that this happened. I tried to look up to see if it was released in collected form but it doesn't appear to be? That sucks.
Marvel Masterworks Uncanny X-men, is still have a few books to cover to total run, but with 13 volumes you can already waste a weekend or two.
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I'm late to the game but I recently started learning about Claremont's sixteen year run on the X Books and am flabbergasted that this happened. I tried to look up to see if it was released in collected form but it doesn't appear to be? That sucks.
Best bet is getting the omnis, but even then there's still a 16 issue gap (plus extras) that's not been collected and a lot of omnis are not in print anymore. Alternatively, you can mix and match with omnis, Masterworks (which are really expensive) and Epic Collections (which are thick trades for an affordable price).
The Claremont omnis are:
Uncanny X-Men Omnibus Volume 1 [available]
Uncanny X-Men Omnibus Volume 2 [out of print]
Uncanny X-Men Omnibus Volume 3 [available]
Uncanny X-Men Omnibus Volume 4 [available]
[uncollected gap]
Mutant Massacre Omnibus [available]
Fall of the Mutants Omnibus [rereleasing in spring]
Inferno Prologue Omnibus [available]
Inferno Omnibus [available]
X-Men by Chris Claremont and Jim Lee Omnibus Volume 1 [out of print]
X-Men by Chris Claremont and Jim Lee Omnibus Volume 2 [available]Plus the spin-off books he wrote (which sometimes tie in heavily with the main X-Men title and sometimes are just better than the main X-Men title)
New Mutants Omnibus Volume 1 [available]
New Mutants Omnibus Volume 2 [available]
Excalibur Omnibus Volume 1 [out of print]
Wolverine Omnibus Volume 1 [out of print]Finally, if you don't mind digital reading, you can also get a Marvel Unlimited subscription and for a very affordable price go through the whole thing after searching for a reading order.
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I do prefer physical, so thank you, both of you. Seeing how expensive plus how so many volumes are out of print is awful. What he did is basically unheard of (sans Byrne's Superman and then the heavily-coordinated Triangle Era) in Big Two comics so I'm really fascinated by it.
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Other notable runs that went for super long runs of 100+ issues
Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four-108 issues, 125 for Stan
Lee Spiderman- Stan Lee was on it for 108 issues
Defalco/Frenz Spidergirl-Multiple titles but ~130 issues over about 10 years
Bendis/BagleyUltimate Spiderman- They worked together for 111 issues… and then Bendis kept going on the title through the Miles years for basically a 15 year runRoy Thomas- Conan the Barbarian. Yeah he was adapting the Howard stories, but he added so much of his own flavor and new characters its basically a unique version of the story (and my personal favorite), and he did that for 10 years/115 issue, the Savage black and white stories for 60 issues... and then he left for a decade, and then came back for another 30 issues at the end.
Over at DC the only one I can think of offhand aside from the already mentioned Superman interconnected triangle run would be
The Wolfman run of New Teen Titans. The title of the book changed multiple times along the way, as did the artists, and they also did COIE in the middle of it, but that was a solid 8 year run of about 100 issues total.Random runs of say, Green Lantern or Blue Beetle that might have kept a creative team for 4 or 5 years, but I think about 50 issues tends to be the upper limit for most teams.
Of course if you want to go to indies, then you have Usagi Yojimbo, Savage Dragon, Cerberus, and Gold Digger to look at, which have all managed to have a single creator for decades and hundreds of issues. Cerberus finished at 300 issues. Gold Digger by Fred Perry is very close to 300, it'll be there next year... and if you count all the specials he's personally done that are part of the same story its well past 350. Usagi has been through so many publishers its hard to accurately track but its at about 200 since 1986. Eric Larsen's Savage Dragon had a multi-year hiatus while he was EiC at Imamge, but its at around 260... I stopped reading it seven or eight years ago when Malcolm took over and the series started turning into a really weird series of fetishes.
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It's nice to see longer runs are possible when editorial doesn't force teams out. I read the Rebirth books by Jurgens and Tomasi for Superman and really enjoyed those eras and hate how they were forced out for Bendis. I'm hoping Taylor and Johnson get to stay on the Super bools for a while.
Also, weird fetishes?!
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Dan Slott wrote Spider-Man for 200 issues, which is probably going to hold the record for longest running modern superhero run for a long time.
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It's nice to see longer runs are possible when editorial doesn't force teams out. I read the Rebirth books by Jurgens and Tomasi for Superman and really enjoyed those eras and hate how they were forced out for Bendis. I'm hoping Taylor and Johnson get to stay on the Super bools for a while.
Also, weird fetishes?! ������
I can't remember everything but there was just isssue after issue where he was doing weird stuff that seemed very midlife crisis.
It culminated in teenage boy has sex with three girlfriends simultaneously, gets them all pregnant. One of the girlfriends is his step-sister. One of them is an asian school girl.
I'd been following the series for years but that was about the point I dipped off. I no longer remember if I got any more issues after that, I stopped getting most comics when I moved and no longer had a nearby store to hit up every week.
Dan Slott wrote Spider-Man for 200 issues, which is probably going to hold the record for longest running modern superhero run for a long time.
Yeah, he deserves to be on the list. (Why is it always SPiderman that gets long runners?
Though they made the book 2x, then 3x a month at one point so he got to that 200 far far sooner than he would have on a regular schedule. So there's an asterisk there but yes.
But yes it deserves to be on the list.
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Oh man I started really reading and getting into comics on a weekly basis right when Bendis started Avengers Disassembled
How is he doing at DC? I love his Marvel stuff
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Oh man I started really reading and getting into comics on a weekly basis right when Bendis started Avengers Disassembled
How is he doing at DC? I love his Marvel stuff
I think everything he did there flopped (except for Naomi) which is why he is no longer doing work for DC anymore lol
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Bendis' time at DC Comics was very…bad. He took over both Superman books, cutting short two very popular runs from Dan Jurgens on Action Comics and Peter Tomasi & Patrick Gleason on Superman. Bendis' era aged up Jon (which was apparently Dan Didio's idea, but alas, Bendis had to write it) and wrote really annoying dialogue for his characters. They also brought back the red trunks, which, eh. Not a fan of that. From what I've read of his Superman run (basically, the issues where Jon came back from the future as a sixteen year old and the issues where Clark revealed his identity to the world) I didn't like how Bendis was cramming in ideas without really exploring them. He was going to a new headline every month, which really doesn't work when you only have sixty pages between two books). The dialogue was also just really, really bad and story potential was constantly being undercut by the need to change the status quo again. I actually really liked the on-paper ideas behind Clark revealing his identity and having the House of El and Zod coming to something of a ceasefire and truce. Anyway, Bendis left the Superman books after about two years on a whimper. I personally much prefer the successors to the Bendis era: Patrick Kennedy Johnson's Action Comics and Tom Taylor Superman: Son of Kal-El. They're exploring really neat ideas and also pushing Clark into a new era of his life. 1990s-2015 was bascially a non-stop era of "Clark the young bachelor or just married husband" but now we're getting DILF Clark, which is a lot of fun to see. I really liked The One Who Falls story arc (already collected as a graphic novel now on sell). It let us see Clark living his life, training Jon to be his successor as Superman, and live with the forboding knowledge that his powers were slowly fading. We also got to see a really neat scene of Clark–sans glasses--with Jon and Lois playing mini-golf. Johnson did what I wish we had seen more of with Bendis' run: seeing Clark living in an era where he had no secret identity.
Bendis' Justice League has also been dump on from what I've seen but I've only really read one issue and it wasn't that bad. I didn't read his Young Justice or Legion of Super-Heroes runs, either, but I know people complained about those, too.
