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      As we know there are quite a number of members on the forum who are and will be working in education. Several immediately come to mind like:
      *Greg- the insane English teacher in Japan (Special skill: Crushing his students with his gigantic rants)
      *Chrissie- the future cookie addict kindergarten teacher from Cyprus. (Special skill: luring her students to ambiguous places with cookies)
      *Zephos-the future acerbic History teacher of New England. (Special Skill: ripping his students' faces apart when they give stupid answers)
      *Akumu- a more gentle history teacher.
      *Tash-English teacher
      *Flux-future English teacher

      So on.

      Some of them expressed the desire to discuss about this topic to me, and, not having found any precedented thread about it (aside from one made by a self-advertising spambot whose introduction thread was deleted), I decide to make one.
      Please merge if you find appropriate.

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        I love this thread already.

        Why did you guys chose to follow this career?

        Personally, since I was a kid and up till my final year of High School, I leaned more towards Archeology than anything else but I had long talks with mostly my English Professors about becoming an English Teacher myself so Teaching was pretty much my career option number duo. I ended up following this path because I wanted to do the favor to my mother for one, for two I lost the place for Archeology that was open in Cyprus University for like… 0.1 (had gotten accepted about Political Sciences instead - Meuh), I like kids like crazy and last I don't like the Educational system much at its current state, since it basically promotes grade-hunting that leads to memorizing dry knowledge instead of actually acquiring substantial knowledge, and soooo I want to try my hand at making some kind of change no matter how…corny and difficult that sounds. The best way to do that is to start with the children that only just begin to form their bases. That is what lead me to pick teaching at the kindergarten (and up to Third Grade of Elementary school if I desire it) over teaching at High Schools and Junior Highs. Plus the kids there are brutal and way taller than I am. To kindergartens I look like a giant. A little giant, but a giant nonetheless.

        Those are pretty much my reasons. Teaching comes with a bunch of bonuses, not just the pay and the vacations, but also the fun and pleasure one can get out of it. So I can't say I have any complaints about the work I will need to put into creating various activities each day (like I have already tried at the Practice sessions of the previous year). It's a blast seeing your ideas being thoroughly enjoyed by kids and I get a kick out of researching and reading to get more ideas for activities. This year, which is also my final, we will need to draw our activity ideas from the kids in order to organize a big Project and I was also chosen to spend one week at a Hospital to teach kids that have to stay there for one reason or another. So instead of working at the kindergarten for 2 weeks, I will work for one there and one at the Hospital. I wanted to check how the whole teaching environment is in a Hospital too, to make up my mind for what MA degree I will study for. If I like it, I am pretty much going for Play Therapy (since most of the Art Therapy programs I managed to find till now, all require another MA degree..) and will try to get a position at one of the Hospitals in Cyprus when I am done. I might still consider Play Therapy even if I don't like it, because it's a quite interesting course and I could later study Art Therapy while teaching at the same time, either at a Private school or at a Public one. I'd prefer it if it was the second.

        Aaah~<3 Thank you so much Sea for making this thread!

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          Good topic, Sea.

          I find English an extremely interesting subject. Like JERK said last night, I believe; It motivates me; it captivates me. I couldn't want to teach it if It didn't. English and grammar etcetera feel almost like a seperate sense. Infact, I don't think many people could teach if they didn't feel like this about their path.

          I was talking about One Piece's thematics the other day, and the point of it was - with books, texts etcetera - there is so much to take. As long as you back it up and reason it logically, you can have as many interpretations under the sun. There's a wealth and richness about it. I've never had trouble with English or Grammar. Perhaps cus I read a lot as a young child and instead of looking up words I did not understand, i would look at the context of the sentence and think 'it only can mean ___.'

          I hope to study English Lit. and either French or German at University. And go to help out in a school in France or Germany in my 3rd year. Probably German as I find it easier, and the grammar simpler than French (for me.)

          So the positions I would like to teach at would be English Teacher or 'Head of Languages,' as my current German teacher does.

          Also; I quite like some of my teachers and to work with them would be brilliant; a few in particular. I would like to return to the same environment I am in now, refreshed, new, skilled and to do the job that is currently done to keep ME educated. I also like the pay and, like Chrissie said, the holidays are pretty great.

          But also, I think It'd be somewhat gratifying to think that I would be having a role in the shaping or progression of those kids lives.

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          I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

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          In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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            Through my eternal passion for sharing knowledge with others and my fascination with history (mainly national) has raised within me a great desire to be a teacher of History or Literature.
            I Love my county History,and also the literature of the world,and i whant to share it with many people as possible.

            Occasionally I give up this dream because I'm shy and stuttered, and the work is not very well paid here in my country.
            But I always be chasing this dream of mine no matter the obstacles, (I'd rather die than not achieving my dream).

            I can say that the idea of breaking the faces of my students when they give wrong answers makes me happy, but besides that, the satisfaction I have in being able to teach someone something that I know makes me a very happy person.

            my dream is gaining strength from every teacher I had (based on the teaching style of each one, to emerge just my style).
            But not only teach a fact, also teach a new way of seeing and thinking for my students, helping them with their problems.

            Thanks Sea BTW.

            When AP used to be good:

            NEVER FORGET !!

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              Damn… One of my main goals is to go to America and improve my english and also get a decent accent. And I also wanna learn Japanese ( who doesn't, but well I learn langues fast I just need someone to teach me. Also one of the things that keeps giving me the power to learn langues is all the hate especialy for japanese and german langue. Like "Why the fuck spend ur time on that, it's useless you will never need them". But well, let the haters hate. ). I could also spend some time in Germany to refresh my knowledge of the german langue. That's about it for the langues. Imma study, idk how it's called on english, some electro-technical-computer-programming stuff. I hope I will succeed and then get a decent job and live a peacefufl life. All I can say is "Cha-La-Head-Cha-La (hetchara)" :wub:

              P.S. Is it normal that I see inspiration and motivation in anime ( Nothing around me can me give me motivation, it can just fuck me up -_-. I live in a shitty-ass country anyways.) ? I was broken and depressed some time and then watched some anime and realized that I have a goal, im folowing it and working on it, so why be broken and depressed ?

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                To all the teachers and wannabe teachers out there: What is it that makes you want to teach?

                I can understand being fascinated by a subject and wanting to learn more about it but these desires don't necessarily equate with teaching. I really dig history and the underlying psychology it brings with it but I never actually want to teach it. So what convinced you to be a teacher? Do you want to be continually surrounded by the subject you love? Do you enjoy imparting your knowledge on pliable minds and perhaps influencing them? Do you like working with young people? Do you like working with similarly minded people? Do you just love the coffee? I'm genuinely curious.

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                  @Airflow:

                  What is it that makes you want to teach?
                  Do you enjoy imparting your knowledge on pliable minds and perhaps influencing them?

                  16 characters of this.
                  And also,to obtain Knowledge.

                  When AP used to be good:

                  NEVER FORGET !!

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                    My interest is piqued.

                    Since 2 years ago, I wanted to become an English teacher because I felt it filled a need.

                    The need is this: the deaf community. You may not know a lot of deaf people and even then, they're probably those who can speak. Nobody has much to do with those "dumb" deaf people who shout out gibberish spontaneously and demand sign language interpreters all the time. Yet, I am one of them.

                    There is a growing lack of proficiency in English among Deaf people (NOTE: In the Deaf community, we use a capital "D" to indicate a deaf person who signs, and a lower-case "d" for those who are oral.) and it is quite serious. I'm 17 and this summer I plan on going to University to study English, yet only a number of weeks ago, a classmate of mine (we don't talk that much) comes to me when I was reading a newspaper and basically said(signed) "Oh wow, you can read a newspaper! You're clever! It's too hard for me!" which struck me. He was trying to be nice, striking up conversation with me, yet in a different (hearing) situation, people would laugh at him. The acceptableness of such a person in the deaf community is a prime example of how we've desensitised so that anyone in secondary school who can't read is mildly surprising at most. I asked him if he enjoyed his English GCSEs, but he said the English teacher was a crap one that didn't really care how well the students were doing. This is rife in Deaf schools.

                    Mainstream schools, with sign language interpreters aren't exempt from the problem. This is because the interpreter will sign to the deaf student/s in sign language, which is a completely different language to the written/spoken word, and they expect the Deaf students to translate what the interpreters are saying back into English in their minds and write it down. Some may not even understand that they actually need to "translate" in the first place.

                    Here's an example of how different sign language and English is. This sentence is in English, and the same sentence translated literally from sign language would be:

                    There example big different sign english really. This sentence english translate straight same sentence in sign what:

                    And every day, Deaf students all over the world write like this. (Except for the Dutch - their education for Deaf people are more effective as it primarily identifies that written and sign language are different and treat teaching English to them as teaching a second language) And, worst of all, there is absolutely nothing being done about it. To the government, it doesn't matter; just "restore" the deaf baby with a Cochlear Implant, and all will be well (which in itself is a quite extensive moral subject of its own).

                    Granted, there are some of the lucky ones, like me, who received adequate help from parents at home (my dad is Deaf and my mum can sign), yet, when even the parents can't write all that well, who will help the next generation of Deaf children acquire a very important skill in society?

                    Some rebellious Deaf children do not see the need to listen to "hearing" teachers who "pretend to understand how we feel", and this is ta view I agree with to an extent. Before Christmas, a teacher had the sheer nerve to say that she "Had all the right to teach us" because she lost her voice for 7 months. "Try 17 years and without the ability to hear on top." promptly went to the board of governors of the school and a subsequent apology was made, but that's a different story.

                    So I don't know how to end this (getting a bit emotional here) but, I feel I can provide the Deaf-to-Deaf connection the children need, change my teaching technique from the norm, derived from what I went through in education and hopefully lessen the illiteracy rates in the Deaf Community in the future.

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                      While I'm not going into the education field, I know I've always had a love for history. I think a lot of it formed when my Dad, a history major himself, would watch historical documentaries in his room and I would crawl in and watch with him.

                      I remember the first time I did this was with a Lewis and Clark documentary. I remember being so enthralled by it and being so proud when we started discussing the subject in class and I was able to give facts the book didn't carry.

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                      He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.

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                        Wow I never would have geussed that the deaf had it so hard. It's really cringeworthy to be honest.

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                          @IrishLuigi:

                          My interest is piqued.

                          Since 2 years ago, I wanted to become an English teacher because I felt it filled a need.

                          The need is this: the deaf community. You may not know a lot of deaf people and even then, they're probably those who can speak. Nobody has much to do with those "dumb" deaf people who shout out gibberish spontaneously and demand sign language interpreters all the time. Yet, I am one of them.

                          There is a growing lack of proficiency in English among Deaf people (NOTE: In the Deaf community, we use a capital "D" to indicate a deaf person who signs, and a lower-case "d" for those who are oral.) and it is quite serious. I'm 17 and this summer I plan on going to University to study English, yet only a number of weeks ago, a classmate of mine (we don't talk that much) comes to me when I was reading a newspaper and basically said(signed) "Oh wow, you can read a newspaper! You're clever! It's too hard for me!" which struck me. He was trying to be nice, striking up conversation with me, yet in a different (hearing) situation, people would laugh at him. The acceptableness of such a person in the deaf community is a prime example of how we've desensitised so that anyone in secondary school who can't read is mildly surprising at most. I asked him if he enjoyed his English GCSEs, but he said the English teacher was a crap one that didn't really care how well the students were doing. This is rife in Deaf schools.

                          Mainstream schools, with sign language interpreters aren't exempt from the problem. This is because the interpreter will sign to the deaf student/s in sign language, which is a completely different language to the written/spoken word, and they expect the Deaf students to translate what the interpreters are saying back into English in their minds and write it down. Some may not even understand that they actually need to "translate" in the first place.

                          Here's an example of how different sign language and English is. This sentence is in English, and the same sentence translated literally from sign language would be:

                          There example big different sign english really. This sentence english translate straight same sentence in sign what:

                          And every day, Deaf students all over the world write like this. (Except for the Dutch - their education for Deaf people are more effective as it primarily identifies that written and sign language are different and treat teaching English to them as teaching a second language) And, worst of all, there is absolutely nothing being done about it. To the government, it doesn't matter; just "restore" the deaf baby with a Cochlear Implant, and all will be well (which in itself is a quite extensive moral subject of its own).

                          Granted, there are some of the lucky ones, like me, who received adequate help from parents at home (my dad is Deaf and my mum can sign), yet, when even the parents can't write all that well, who will help the next generation of Deaf children acquire a very important skill in society?

                          Some rebellious Deaf children do not see the need to listen to "hearing" teachers who "pretend to understand how we feel", and this is ta view I agree with to an extent. Before Christmas, a teacher had the sheer nerve to say that she "Had all the right to teach us" because she lost her voice for 7 months. "Try 17 years and without the ability to hear on top." promptly went to the board of governors of the school and a subsequent apology was made, but that's a different story.

                          So I don't know how to end this (getting a bit emotional here) but, I feel I can provide the Deaf-to-Deaf connection the children need, change my teaching technique from the norm, derived from what I went through in education and hopefully lessen the illiteracy rates in the Deaf Community in the future.

                          Ah yes, it's very sad how much trouble the deaf community has in terms of reading capabilities. I myself have a friend who's deaf, she was my ASL teacher when I was taking classes. She was lucky enough to be able to read and write, however she did have difficulties, especially with the writing aspect. She would often misspell words which she wrote on the chalkboard, many of which being fairly simple ones.
                          It's amazing how much trouble some deaf people can have with reading/writing, especially considering how much it is used in their world: fingerspelling, subtitles, etc
                          Although I'm sure a lot of it is because of the typical jumbled up sentences which signlanguage entails. Even though I attended for over two years, I know I still have to stop and think when translating the signed words into a proper engish sentence.

                          I didn't know your father was deaf, I think it's rather cool in ways. It gives you a broader look on the world around you and I think it's inspiring that your goal in life is to improve the deaf world by working to eliminate illiteracy. I hope you can get your dream up and moving, I'll be rooting for you along the way 😆

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                          He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.

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                            @IrishLuigi:

                            So I don't know how to end this (getting a bit emotional here) but, I feel I can provide the Deaf-to-Deaf connection the children need, change my teaching technique from the norm, derived from what I went through in education and hopefully lessen the illiteracy rates in the Deaf Community in the future.

                            You should definitely go for this. It's when people spot a problem and work to overcome it, aka they desire change, a community can progress and become better.
                            We have discussed this particular problem you mentioned in Special Education Class (because the same things happens with Greek sign language) and I am more than glad to see that there are people like you out there who want to work on it.

                            But also, I think It'd be somewhat gratifying to think that I would be having a role in the shaping or progression of those kids lives.

                            That it is~

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                              Wow, a lot of English teachers! I knew about Greg, but not the rest.

                              As for me, I am going into Instrumental Music Education. I want to be a band director, but I also want to do marching band and stuff like that. Those details will be ironed out as I progress in college.

                              When I entered college I was uncertain on what exactly I wanted to do. I just went with "Music" because I had been in band for six years and even though I struggled I stayed with it. Well, there was also my awesome senior season in marching band.

                              Anyway, it wasn't until very recently that I realized that I really needed to be a teacher. Before that I was pretty uncertain. I had little confidence in myself and planned on going for education as opposed to performance because I "wasn't good enough". When I finally realized it was my own fault that I wasn't good enough I finally found what I needed to do.

                              Perhaps I'm just crazy, but I'd like to be able to reach out to the kids like me that do care and do want to get better but don't know how much to push themselves and end up struggling a whole lot due to that. I spent far too long being insecure and depressed about my own abilities and I always blamed it on myself. I know there are kids that do the same thing.

                              That's not my full-blown reason, that's just a goal. Perhaps a hard goal to reach when you'd be teaching a whole ensemble… or two... or three... Also, perhaps a bit of a "cliche" goal, but I do not care.

                              Of course, I wouldn't go for this if I didn't have some kind of passion for it, though. I love wind instruments and I've played quite a few of them. Plus, on the marching side, I've actually had early thoughts of show ideas in my head. But again, I don't know if that part will work out. I'd have to teach at a high school for that.

                              Plus, I feel that music education is a very important thing. I learned a whole lot of important life lessons from my experience, one of those lessons is to live life to the fullest and work really hard towards your goals. Those are lessons that I feel are very important, so that's another reason.

                              Excuse me if this sounds a little odd. I haven't started the Music Education program yet, I am still at community college. I've had a lot of time to think about all of this due to money issues, but I still haven't transferred and started on the program. =( I just know that there isn't really anything else I want to go into.

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                                I'm finishing off my History degree right now and getting ready to enter a teacher education program, so I've been doing volunteer work in high school classrooms, and it's really only confirmed to me that this is what I want to do for a career. I mean, I just feel like I'm in my element there.

                                I mean, I've always been a bit of a natural teache. I just love doing what I can to expand knowledge and open doors to people. And the reason I want to teach high school especially is so that I can encourage students to go on to university, because I feel like there's just so much that you can miss out on if you don't go. A shitty high school teacher can turn a student off of a subject they'd otherwise be interested in - killing the bud before it can sprout basically. I've seen it a lot of times. And I want to do the opposite. I want to get young people motivated to continue pursuing knowledge.

                                @Airflow:

                                Do you want to be continually surrounded by the subject you love? Do you enjoy imparting your knowledge on pliable minds and perhaps influencing them? Do you like working with young people?

                                These things basically.

                                It's a career that really lets you keep learning about this subject you're passionate about yourself, too.

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                                  Mang, you people made me consider the posibility of me becoming a teacher…. Hmmm. It would be fun to educate people, actualy this idea isn't bad 😮

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                                    So many teachers in here…god dammit.

                                    I myself want to be a teacher who never rly loses his interests in the next generation.
                                    Iam not that type of guy who thinks that learning stultifying stuff and by that getting good grades is what should be focused(or the way how some should handle their school life, because i myself acted that way a lot).
                                    [that sure is not the case for every subject, but it shouldn`t be the case in more than the half]
                                    Learning how to interact with society is also a rly important part and seeing that more and more conflicts appear, where scholars are often treated like outsiders by other scholars and even teachers.
                                    Thats not the way how to interact..we all may gone through the phase of insulting someone or being insulted.
                                    Learning how to solve problems with every kind of person should be more focused and seeing how the world gets more and mre global we just have to understand how to react to other cultures\believes ect..

                                    Also the way how to see life and myself should be accosted.
                                    By that i think its not the right way to say "this and that is right" or such methods, its more about bringing the scholars to think about certain stuff and of their actions\consequences.
                                    Bringing them to think about problems and not just taking the first solution which may sounds good but in the long run brings nothing would be great to achieve in some way.
                                    Also to understand others you must be able to put oneself in someones position and by that understanding things because of seeing in from a different angle.

                                    I myself (as a biologist) also have to goal to show them the beauty of nature and that we should protect and learn from it as much as possible.
                                    Destroying nature and by that ourselves will be more and more important and when we don`t start now to open the eyes of how we rape our world, next generations may have nothing of it left.

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                                      I myself (as a biologist) also have to goal to show them the beauty of nature and that we should protect and learn from it as much as possible.
                                      Destroying nature and by that ourselves will be more and more important and when we don`t start now to open the eyes of how we rape our world, next generations may have nothing of it left.

                                      Something like this requires the input of several other subjects. One thing I noticed is that teachers/Professors etc etc, stick to teaching only the material that focuses on their subject, instead of touching ideas from other subjects as well. That is what we call a Project or Interdisciplinary Approach (Διαθεματική Προσέγγιση) to a subject. You basically have to approach a topic (i.e Environment Protection) from different views (i.e Society, History etc etc). For something like this, Teachers in the Elementary and Professors from Junior High till High School, need to cooperate since at those certain periods, kids are taught by more than one professor/teacher unlike Kindergarten where one Teacher approaches every subject and thus finds it easier (and should be obliged to) to try out the Interdisciplinary Approach.

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                                        Yeah Chrissie, i would love to see such a structured course of instruction which is more and more coming but still far away from really existing in schools because so far it`s in the hands of the teachers and nothing that HAS TO BE DONE.
                                        But yeah i totally agree with you..
                                        thats what i said about "seeing stuff from different kind of views", which sure also has to be done about stuff you wnat to teach (and not only about people what i was saying)
                                        To think about something or to make decisions you need to know different views of the same subject and being confronted in many ways with the same stuff makes you understand it even more.

                                        I dont know but when i was studying in Kindergarten i was confronted with the "circle of education"(dont know how the english phrase for it is)
                                        Afterall it`s a method to teach kids stuff by repeating it again and again and adding new stuff to it every year.

                                        For example you teach them something about hedgehogs(animals in forests)…next year about beech(trees and that they lose their leafes)...next year about weather(rainy,sunny) etc.(that in biology)
                                        or how to build kits, reading poetry about autumn, how to make art with fallen leafes etc in other subjects and by that having the overall topic of autumn for example, which appears again and again in differnet facettes over those years.
                                        So after (in this case 3 years) you know a lot about autumn by remembering the stuff you did over the years and you can remember much more details as if i had you just told everything in a few hours and you have a more farfetched impression of the single facettes.

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                                          So I don't know how to end this (getting a bit emotional here) but, I feel I can provide the Deaf-to-Deaf connection the children need, change my teaching technique from the norm, derived from what I went through in education and hopefully lessen the illiteracy rates in the Deaf Community in the future.

                                          I'm not planning to be a teacher, but all I can say to any would-be kindergarten or 1st grade teachers is TEACH THEM TO READ.

                                          The general cut off date for when the human brain starts to slow down its growth is around 5 years old - about 90% of the brain growth is done then. And that's a HUGE growth, and there's next to no one I know of who tries to teach their children to read before this age comes up.

                                          I grew up with a speech impediment - basically the middle child syndrome - and because I wasn't talking to anyone, my dad spent hours upon hours working with me, reading to me, sitting in front of Sesame Street with me. Some of my earlier memories are of my dad reading Laura Ingalls Wilder to my sisters and I. We're all great readers as a result.

                                          But the point of this is that … well, I remember when my nephew had started going to school and doing kindergarten, and when he brought his homework in ... his homework, and apparently, the goal of the year ... was for the kids to learn to write their names.

                                          Now a few years later with my other niece, it doesn't look that much more promising.

                                          Teaching kids the sounds of letters isn't really teaching them how to read when letters in the English letter aren't that clear cut and the pronunciations aren't obvious. It's a ridiculous state of affairs.

                                          This is the time of their lives when teachers need to just grab a book and read to their students. If they don't have the big giant books I remember when I was in preschool and kindergarten, then write it out on the board maybe?

                                          I don't know - maybe just a little too much string pulling there.

                                          Because my nephew is one of the brightest kids I know. At thirteen years old, he's building a car … but reading at a 3rd grade level.

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                                          And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                            Whoah. Al, you need to get in touch with those teachers. =/ In Kindergarten the teacher has to give opportunities to the kid to discover writing through experience. Not hand out homework on how to write their name!!! That is completely and utterly pointless to a child at that age, especially if they didn't understand yet that written word is another form of education and what's on the paper can be read out loud - be turned into speech. That's why reading in Pre-School age is so fucking important, not just with the teachers but with the parents as well. I made a list on some of the benefits of reading to kids on the General Discussion thread and that was just touching the tip and not going into the deeper stuff! So I repeat: Get in touch with those 'teachers' and verbally slap the fuck out of them. Aren't there parent meetings with the teacher organized btw? =/ Because cooperation with the family is one of the new mottos of the new Kindergarten School Teacher's generation and has actually been so for a while in other countries like France and Germany…

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                                              Over here in the states, that's not something you really do for kids that aren't your own - even if they're family. That's a parent-teacher conference deal, and while my nephew had been doing better for a while, he slipped back down again. Still building his car and building bikes though.

                                              The youth's reading ability and comprehension is one of the reasons why the WASL is such a joke.

                                              In 2008, satisfactory completion of the WASL reading and writing examinations will be mandatory high school graduation requirements.

                                              This is MY state doing this. I was one of the grades that was basically their guinea pigs before that went into place. I passed with flying colors. My nephews and nieces likely won't be as lucky.

                                              The only response I can give them is making sure my other sister is on the right track with Juniper (we're reading to her, watching Sesame Street and Your Baby Can Read with her, and she responds SO quickly). About a month ago, she pointed at my jammie pants, pointed out the corresponding number, and said, "Six."

                                              I have every intention on doing the same with my own kids once they're had.

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                                                Has anybody ever fucking heard of mandatory study groups before

                                                This is like the first time I've ever been in a class that demanded it.

                                                I'm the one person not in one and nobody ever asked me about anything. Out of eleven students, ten of them split into two groups of five and everybody just silently fucked off without me.

                                                I didn't even know this was happening. Suddenly the teacher is just talking about this and everybody knows it.

                                                Even with the previous discussion on classroom white noise this is like absolute new levels to me and apparently it's been happening for to weeks. What the fuck

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                                                  So I don't know how to end this (getting a bit emotional here) but, I feel I can provide the Deaf-to-Deaf connection the children need, change my teaching technique from the norm, derived from what I went through in education and hopefully lessen the illiteracy rates in the Deaf Community in the future.

                                                  That was an amazing read, thanks for your post. I think it's extremely important for the hearing to understand the thoughts and emotions of the Deaf community. How else could we go on, separated? I saw a movie once about the difficulties in life that the Deaf community goes through and it completely changed my view. Especially about the controversial debate about implants.

                                                  Your aim in teaching is a great one, and I think you should pursue it wholeheartedly. Just imagine the lives that would be changed!

                                                  I wonder if I can ask you a question, this is unrelated but i'd like to know: The last person I met who was deaf (oral) was a elderly customer at my restaurant. I feel terrible to this day when I think of it because I couldn't understand what drink he was asking for, and I brought him the wrong drink 3 or 4 times. I felt so terrible but finally he got what he wanted, and I apologized afterward because I saw he was visibly upset. Can you tell me, what is the polite way to clarify what is being said if I come upon the same situation without offending a person?

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                                                    Sadly, deaf elderly oral people are usually set in their ways and identify themselves as a part of the hearing community. I know an oral person who kept speaking, even though my brother said he can't speak worth shit. It's usually attributed to poor speech therapists who marked students highly and praised them lavishly in their attempts at speech even when they were doing poorly.

                                                    Well, you could ask them to write it down or point at the menu. That's what I usually do.

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                                                      Has anybody ever fucking heard of mandatory study groups before

                                                      This is like the first time I've ever been in a class that demanded it.

                                                      Yes, and I think it's a somewhat silly requirement.

                                                      I had a math class last semester that required a minimum of 2 1-hour study group sessions per week. The idea is that, because "every student has their strengths and weaknesses," the students who were better at one particular subject in math could help the students who were struggling with their homework, and vice versa.

                                                      A fine idea in theory that utterly did not work in practice–at least, in my own experience. My group would meet twice a week before class and basically we just sat around and bullshitted each other until class began. No instructor checked in on our group, we were just required to sign in for an hour in the study hall and then sign back out, and that was counted toward our study group hours, regardless of what we actually did with that time.

                                                      And because our instructor went over the homework at the beginning of each class and worked the problems the students had difficulties with, I'm rather at a loss as to why the groups were even required. I think a student who was having trouble in a subject would have been far better served investing those study group hours with an actual tutor, where they would have received individual attention and instruction. But that's just me, maybe other classes have better luck with this technique.

                                                      I'm the one person not in one and nobody ever asked me about anything. Out of eleven students, ten of them split into two groups of five and everybody just silently fucked off without me.

                                                      I didn't even know this was happening. Suddenly the teacher is just talking about this and everybody knows it.

                                                      Even with the previous discussion on classroom white noise this is like absolute new levels to me and apparently it's been happening for to weeks. What the fuck

                                                      What the fuck, indeed. I'm rather at a loss as to how your class only has 11 students and yet your instructor is apparently unaware that one of his/her students have been excluded…for weeks. That's pretty lame. At least our instructor noted everyone's names so she could keep track of the students in the study groups, not sure why your instructor didn't think to do the same. =\

                                                      Well, if it were me, I'd just pick one of the groups and announce to them that they are now stuck with me. Sorry that happened to you Holy-dear, I hope you'll be able to get caught up without too much hardship.

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                                                        One of the kids in the classroom we are in, has ADHD. He is also always completely on his own and some of the other kids told him to leave from their group while they were drawing (his teacher dragged him there and it was in the activities the kids are supposed to do what they want. 0.o). I was sitting there drawing as well (I find that joining in whatever they are doing at the time, helps me get to know them better and earn their trust faster), so I asked them why he should leave and that he was more than welcome to sit with us. That made them let him be thankfully. I managed to get his attention a few times (when I was making a puzzle with him -he is brilliant at that too!-, when I asked him about his book and when I showed him my drawing) but that was pretty much it. Of course when we were doing the organized activity with my partner, though he was leaving the group at times, he kept coming back even if he was not paying that much attention to us so I'll take that as a good sign. I hate how the teacher was like 'He is ____ and he has ADHD so you pretty much shouldn't bother with him blah blah blah.' right from the start btw. Why is it when teachers have a child that has certain difficulties, they must push him/her aside like this? =/ Anyway. There's a rather social kid that took a liking to me right from the start so I will try to get that one to hang out with K. to try to get him in the group during this week. Plus I'll try to find small separate activities especially for him for our normal week. Since he likes puzzles, something he can put together and since he has to move around all the time, some kind of exercises as well. I know I'll only be at the kindergarten for just a week after the observation week (this one) is over, but I think it'll be unfair for this kid to not join in our program even if it's not with the rest of the group.

                                                        I hope I am thinking of facing this the right way. o3o; If someone has a better idea on how I could approach this kid, then please, please, please do tell it to me. Don't even be shy to tell me the way I am thinking of getting to him is stupid and won't really work. I am pretty naive on certain things and way too positive for my own good so I pretty much need a reality check now and then. I don't really know much about how you should treat kids with ADHD and I am inexperienced in general as a teacher (well.. I am not even one yet but I am almost there XD) so as you can understand any solid advice I get, would be major help. 😃

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                                                          Well, I'm looking at becoming a music teacher for high school. The reason I got into this wasn't initially by choice. Last year was my senior year, and my band director wanted me to rethink doing Music Performance and Jazz Studies as my major. He requested (rather, he demanded) that I teach the 3rd Jazz Band, which was usually Freshmen who were just getting introduced to jazz.

                                                          I thought I did a terrible job, honestly. There are plenty of instances in which I look back and think of what I could have done better (Just a word of warning, don't mix up your names. I still haven't lived it down.). Somehow, the group sounded good by the end, but I still wasn't convinced that teaching was the way to go. It was at the end of our final concert, where two of the "problem children" (one was constantly talking, and the other one had grade problems) came up and actually thanked me for what I did, that I started changing my mind. Not only that, but these two freshmen auditioned and made the top jazz bands, and they're really into the music that I enjoy. Those two kids specifically made me go into this career path. I want to be able to encourage and influence the kids that love music, but also be a good influence for the kids that may not be as passionate about it.

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                                                            @Holy:

                                                            Has anybody ever fucking heard of mandatory study groups before

                                                            This is like the first time I've ever been in a class that demanded it.

                                                            I'm the one person not in one and nobody ever asked me about anything. Out of eleven students, ten of them split into two groups of five and everybody just silently fucked off without me.

                                                            I didn't even know this was happening. Suddenly the teacher is just talking about this and everybody knows it.

                                                            Even with the previous discussion on classroom white noise this is like absolute new levels to me and apparently it's been happening for to weeks. What the fuck

                                                            Do you talk or are social with the people in your classroom? This seems to happen to the people who sit and don't talk to other students in class (or from what I experience with the kids in my college corse who refuses to talk with people in class) You should just force yourself in one of the groups. I'm sure one of the groups will accept you into their group unless they think they don't like you.

                                                            (If my words come off harsh, it wasn't my purpose) but that doesn't seem right that you were not in on the word.

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                                                              @Chrissie:

                                                              One of the kids in the classroom we are in, has ADHD. He is also always completely on his own and some of the other kids told him to leave from their group while they were drawing (his teacher dragged him there and it was in the activities the kids are supposed to do what they want. 0.o). I was sitting there drawing as well (I find that joining in whatever they are doing at the time, helps me get to know them better and earn their trust faster), so I asked them why he should leave and that he was more than welcome to sit with us. That made them let him be thankfully. I managed to get his attention a few times (when I was making a puzzle with him -he is brilliant at that too!-, when I asked him about his book and when I showed him my drawing) but that was pretty much it. Of course when we were doing the organized activity with my partner, though he was leaving the group at times, he kept coming back even if he was not paying that much attention to us so I'll take that as a good sign. I hate how the teacher was like 'He is ____ and he has ADHD so you pretty much shouldn't bother with him blah blah blah.' right from the start btw. Why is it when teachers have a child that has certain difficulties, they must push him/her aside like this? =/ Anyway. There's a rather social kid that took a liking to me right from the start so I will try to get that one to hang out with K. to try to get him in the group during this week. Plus I'll try to find small separate activities especially for him for our normal week. Since he likes puzzles, something he can put together and since he has to move around all the time, some kind of exercises as well. I know I'll only be at the kindergarten for just a week after the observation week (this one) is over, but I think it'll be unfair for this kid to not join in our program even if it's not with the rest of the group.

                                                              I hope I am thinking of facing this the right way. o3o; If someone has a better idea on how I could approach this kid, then please, please, please do tell it to me. Don't even be shy to tell me the way I am thinking of getting to him is stupid and won't really work. I am pretty naive on certain things and way too positive for my own good so I pretty much need a reality check now and then. I don't really know much about how you should treat kids with ADHD and I am inexperienced in general as a teacher (well.. I am not even one yet but I am almost there XD) so as you can understand any solid advice I get, would be major help. 😃

                                                              That's pretty ignorant of her to say. Most people with ADD/ADHD are brilliant and most are quite social.

                                                              I'm an ADDer, and I completely loathed kindergarten because it was absolutely non stimulating, in fact I've acted the same way about any sort of school work that was non-stimulating. If it was too easy, or too stupid, my mind was gone. Off to magical daydream land. I didn't have a problem with being social or having friends in elementary school, but teachers insulted me a lot for my lack of attention. Even if I could tell them all the answers, they still acted that way. When I found ways to keep my attention better (which is twirling my hair or doodling while I listen), obviously it looked like I was paying even less of attention, but if I dont have that stimulation while I listen (or not take notes during a lecture, though I note and doodle at the same time), my mind has gone awaaaaay.

                                                              It sounds like he is unsure in social situations, and unfortunately being labeled abnormal has affected him, what the hell for doing that to a little kid!!!

                                                              I would spend a lot of time with him and find ways to teach him the subjects that involve doing fun activities. If you find that he'd rather be off-task then do his work, promise that he gets to do his normally discouraged activity once he has done his work. My 3rd grade teacher was wonderful, and she provided us with incentives to get work done and done well. We had something called funny money we could earn by answering our warm up questions correctly, answering right during lessons, and from completing assignments correctly. At the end of the semesters, we had an auction with our funny money for real nice stuff (toys, electronic things, pokemon stuff, it wasnt cheapo crap). That encouraged most people to stay on task. We also were allowed our CD players at lunch, which for some reason put us in a good mood XD

                                                              Though what she did for me (though she extended the offer to everyone, it was done for me) was let me get on the computer and play games when I got done. I also got to be the person to turn the computers on/off and set up programs (sometimes if new software needed installing, I got to do it). Much like you're talking about sitting down and trying to figure out what he likes and does, she did the same thing with me, and we bonded over that stuff. She looked for things in me, and others too, that were different to praise them over, not belittle.

                                                              This is in mass contrast to what I dealt with in 5th grade, where I was yelled at and belittled in front of everyone if I finished an assignment quickly and I started to read or write. If it wasnt 100% perfect, I would be yelled at. One time, I had a lightbulb moment about something and quickly wrote it down in my little journal book before I forgot it, while she was talking (I do this all the freakin time, right in front of other people, no one else has ever said a word even in school). She took it away, and then told the class no one was allowed to read or write after assignments because of me, and everyone turned on me. Eventually it was just extended to where I couldnt be the one to read or write. And I never liked school again XDDD

                                                              That negative experience started a train wreck that ruined my love of school, and turned it into a fear and anxiety rather then something positive. What that teacher and the other students are doing to that boy is wrong. The only thing you can really do is continue to interact with him, get to know him and his likes and dislikes and what appeals to him. From there you can start to figure out ways to use his interests to get him interested in his studies. Teachers simply cannot just spew out facts, sometimes you just have to get down and really get to know the kids, and mold your teaching style to fit their needs. And addressing the needs of the one who needs help the most usually works out fine for the rest of the students. Unless the child is years behind everyone else in development but in kindergarten, this is usually not the case.

                                                              My problem in kindergarten was I had already been taught reading and writing because my grandma and mom expected that I should be expected to know this, but apparently you dont have to know. So I was bored and pissy because I got yelled at for blurting out answers and just being smart. I can actually remember leaving school livid a few times. My teacher was very rude on occasions (same with my 4th and 5th grade teachers) but after the fact, she still praises that I was her smartest student ever and that I was so good. I don't get it at all.

                                                              I don't get teachers who teach and don't care. The pay is shit, you could've gone to school for something else with a bigass paycheck if it was for the money, I figure you choose teaching because you genuinely CARE. I dont know why people who dont care are wasting their time, everyone elses times, and hurting the kids for a shit paycheck. They think there is nothing to teaching and molding young lives? What the hell, did they REALLY have a textbook perfect childhood with no effort or struggling on their part of any kind?!?! I just don't get it.

                                                              Get to know the kid, praise him for the things he does well and make him feel like he's awesome for the things he does well. I know you just have a week there and it may seem pointless but, you never know if it all it takes is just one persons kindness. It's also good experience as you may have a child in your classroom like him. I think everything you are doing is right. These kids need attention, not to be left behind and pushed out because of a stigma. Everyone is NOT the same, and its not fair to treat everyone the same.

                                                              We had a little girl in our sunday school class, who was smarter then the rest of them, she just couldn't sit still and felt the need to start talking about things that had nothing to do with the task at hand. It was enough to get my grandma to quit (but keep in mind she had terminal cancer, and was dealing with chemo so frustration in your last days is not exactly welcomed) because she couldn't stand her disruptive behavior. But she retained information better then most of them. And when I'd give her something to focus on or do as the lesson was being taught (like coloring or a toy to hold), she was calm and quiet. Unfortunately in a class of 2-4 year olds, when you give one kid a toy, they all want one. And the rest of them were horribly distracted once they had something else to turn their attention to. But the example is, sometimes someone has to do it differently to retain the same information. Whatever gets it done. It's just hard with the little ones because of their money see, monkey do syndrome XD All it takes to figure out their needs is to take a little extra time to get to know them.

                                                              And kudos to all of you current and future teachers who are striving to make a difference. You guys rock.

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                                                              I'm sort of unsure of myself as being a general educator, I feel like I'd be more suited to helping kids cope with bad situations, family drama, bullies, and those asshole teachers. If I had known the things I have learned about coping as a kid, alot of crap would not have happened. I'd love to help kids learn to cope with things when they're young so they can get more out childhood rather then hating and resenting the hell out of everything and everyone and just hating that time away.

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                                                                Thank you very much Arei! This was more than helpful and encouraging for me. I am kinda sad I have such little time to interact with the kid but I'll try my best. He likes to be tickled btw (:ninja: ….what? He was running around being cute... I HAD TO TICKLE OK?! Don't judge meeeee) so that will be my good morning to him for every day of this week~ And I'll take care of giving him plenty of attention. Which reminds me I have to get dressed and hurry to the bus stop @_@; I am gonna act with the puppets today 😄 My partner wrote the script so it's up to me to do all five characters. <.<; My poor voice...

                                                                Thank you again hun and sorry I can't reply better right now. ;3; Time is pressuring me. Dx

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                                                                  Puppets are a good idea. In church we used to put on puppet shows and that went over really well for telling stories. And I mean, look at Mr Rogers stuff XDDD The kids will love that.

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                                                                    The kids loved the puppet show XD We heard some interesting ideas about computers today as well as Japan again (yesterday they talked about Japan without us saying a thing! o3o) So now we are thinking of the subject of our project and since it's a project we will need a final result and we are kinda leaning towards a puppet show from the kids themselves. They went from 8D to D8 when we told them we had to leave and take the puppets and scene thingie with us. 😆 It's a pity their puppet materials are all stored away. <_____< Such a waste.

                                                                    Also I have a date with the Special Education professor to ask her opinion on activities about that kid in half an hour. Ah! I also discovered he likes the 'airplane' apart from being tickled today. rubs aching back XD

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                                                                        Wow, this is such an incredibly interesting topic! I'm not too keen on wanting to be a teacher anymore, but at a time I wanted to teach art. Are there any here that want to teach art?

                                                                        I used to want to teach art until I saw how incredibly awful other students used to treat my last art teacher. I used to be her aid when ever I could, helping her clean the room after students trashed it and helping her think of ways to keep it from happening again and such, but since I was a student I couldn't help her much. I don't really understand why, but there has been such a rapid decline in the fine arts at schools, and over the years I've watched it get particularly worse. I don't think I could deal with students as they are now so I just kind of gave up the ghost on the idea of teaching.

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                                                                          Fine Arts at school, kind of lost their true meaning and are treated as a 'break time' class by most of the students unfortunately. This comes mostly from the way the Arts class is being treated by the curriculum itself, since it's not really considered an academically 'important' class when it should be. No class should actually be treated this way, but there are a few that are. It's rare to find a Teacher that manages to breathe life in this type of classes. I was very fortunate with the 2 Art professors I had actually! They were pretty awesome and though at times, the class got off hand, they still managed to teach most of the students plenty of things imo.

                                                                          The Music class, as well as the Religion and English classes were treated as 'break classes' most of the time, at least in Cyprus. You know, it always comes down to the teacher and the way they teach their lesson. If you find a way to grab your students' attention and earn their respect, then you are in my opinion a good teacher. The teachers that let their students walk all over them just to be considered cool or are so strict that they don't let the students cough or sneeze, don't really earn that respect that will help them pass their knowledge to their students. Which teachers left a good impression on you and actually taught you something? The bossy ones? The ones that let you do whatever you wanted? Or the ones that treated you with respect and presented their lesson in an interesting way and in such a way that you could also say your opinion and walk away from the textbook for once?

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                                                                          • Mugiwara_no_Ice
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                                                                            Hey guys, godwilling I'll be joining the teacher's corps very soon. YEAH! I'll start my new job as a teacher next month after the holidays.

                                                                            I'll be teaching islam to 6 to 12 year olds in a public school.

                                                                            If you have advice for a noob starting in the profession, go ahead, every bit of advice is welcome.

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                                                                            Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.

                                                                            Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.

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                                                                              Interesting topic and since people involved are participating in the discussion I have 1 or 2 questions.
                                                                              I myself always enjoyed teaching but not on a class basis but rather in small groups (my school had a programm where upperclassmen would give private lesson to their juniors). It made me understand how people process the same information in very different ways. I really liked to find out how each one of them could learn the things they needed to without having to feel the tediousness of it.

                                                                              Now looking back at my gymnasium years(somewhat the german equivalent of a highschool) the classroom was most of the time a place of frustration and boredom for me. I can sum it up that school killed a lot of interests I had, some of them I recovered some of them I still dread.
                                                                              As a student it's always easy to blame the teacher for that, but since then I've had some discussion with friends of mine that gone into teaching.
                                                                              The impression I got was that in most cases the curriculum that is demanded from the school often hurt their teaching more than it helped.

                                                                              As an example of that in germany when you first learn english you always begin with some vocables and a lot of grammatics*(but really it extends pretty much to every language lesson I've heard of). Also the topics that are required per curriculum often relate to stuff that most students don't take interest in (like brittish architecture, discussing monuments etc).
                                                                              In my experience that's pretty fatal thing to do when you want people to learn a language.
                                                                              In most cases this is enough reason to kill every interest of that language and interest is the most important thing when trying to get people fluent.

                                                                              It happened to me too I was for 5 years that I took english terrible at it until I got an internet connections and thanks to that recuperated my interest.
                                                                              I never studied I just did fun stuff with the language and I think I've gotten decent at it.

                                                                              The thing is even if you take a language course for 6-8 years you might still not end up becoming fluent in it(I've seen it), because the average 4 hours of lessons you get per week won't cut it. Learning a language is not an easy thing it requires a lot of work, but the beautiful thing about language is that due it's diversity you can always find something interesting for every person to do with it. So you want people to spend time with the language at home in their free time and because of that retaining interest is paramount.

                                                                              So I want to get some opinions of all the teachers here, what is your stance about curriculums. Is it really the students fault if they fail at subjects?
                                                                              Should/Can teacher fight the curriculum? Are there workaround that some of you utilize to make your class better?

                                                                              *which I believe is the dumbest thing ever, it's like teaching kids addition/substraction/etc before they know what numbers are.

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                                                                                Wow, this is a really cool thread. I'm really happy, I'm a high school spanish teacher myself and I love it. I'll post more once I've found time to read all the amazing comments and discussions in here.

                                                                                Thanks Sea!

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